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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Changa

So the mistake Neil made with arrive is he did not share with Ragini! If your son comes to you and say please please do not tell mom about an issue what would you do? How many times a child will comes to a parent if they are in trouble. It happens all the time and things are done without the other knowing of the issue. Considering their situation Neil was not wrong but he could have handled it a little differently. Ragini should take her Aman sirs advice and accept things and not try and change them according to her will. He her guru after all.



Without Communication, there is no relationship; Without Respect, there is no love; Without Trust, there is no reason to continue..! ... reason to continue - Anonymous.

Rule no 1 of parenting is never hide anything from your spouse about your child. Yes I agree it happens everywhere... People hide things and if you see ninety percent of such cases end up in serious problems. Now coming to the show, Aarav asked Nachiket to hide something really serious... Aarav is young and immature but Nachiket being the older and more mature one must have told everything to Ragini

Now when I say Nachiket is at fault, I do not mean Ragini is completely right. I only want to say that both are wrong and need to sit down talk and sort out their problems immediately.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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unfortunately when aarav comes out of jail, it will be blame game on ragini and he will be "papa papa/dad" even though dad's son ranbir is also to be blamed and dad still not reprimanded ranbir and accepted that he should not have left aarav alone when goons were chasing him and doing opposite of what ever ragini saying to aarav.
to aarav, dad is a god, on his side when things don't go according to his wishes with his mum
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Posted: 10 years ago
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As far as aarav's case is concerned...neil was fully at fault...but ragini could not bear dat and she committed a even bigger crime...she has made aarav even more bitter...sumone mentioned dat she needs 2 sit and talk..guys pls stop jokin.she does sit but only with dr aman...common guys I ask u all one question..wat should hv been ragini's next step after neil committed dat mistake...keep blaming him all your life or take remedial steps 2 get ur son out and show it 2 neil and tell him 2 f**k off..she takes one yr 2 realise all dis...guys stop supporting her crap decisions..so wat u expect aarav 2 do...go and hug his mom..forget gettin him out of jail...she does not meet him also..and u guys say ragini is right..from which angle...wat neil did he did...wat did ragini do ..if she points one finger at him..5 fingers point at her as well..things dat could hv been sorted..elongated only becos of ragini..period
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Posted: 10 years ago
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^^ See... I am not telling Ragini is not wrong nor is anyone here for that matter. I agree that Ragini is wrong not to have met Aarav and getting engaged when her son was still in jail. But... Two wrongs don't make a right... So if Ragini did something wrong, it doesn't justify Nachiket's faults... And just as you say when we point 1 finger at others 4 fingers point to us... So when Nachiket is blaming Ragini for everything, he must remember his faults too...

About my comment on them sitting together and sorting out their issues... It was just wishful thinking on my part... And the only solution to their current troubles... But... We all know that it is never going to happen in the show 😆 .

No offence meant... This is only my point of view 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Neil does not blame her..he starts when ragini instigates him..common u cannot deny dis..and as far as sittin together is concerned..it was just a joke cos most of the tymes we see her sittin with aman only 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hiphop_R

Neil does not blame her..he starts when ragini instigates him..common u cannot deny dis..and as far as sittin together is concerned..it was just a joke cos most of the tymes we see her sittin with aman only 😊



Sorry... I think you misunderstood my comment... What I meant is that they both have not properly talked ever since leap so expecting that now is just wishful thinking... And not because she is with Aman... Please understand I only meant both are wrong here... No offence
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hiphop_R

As far as aarav's case is concerned...neil was fully at fault...but ragini could not bear dat and she committed a even bigger crime...she has made aarav even more bitter...sumone mentioned dat she needs 2 sit and talk..guys pls stop jokin.she does sit but only with dr aman...common guys I ask u all one question..wat should hv been ragini's next step after neil committed dat mistake...keep blaming him all your life or take remedial steps 2 get ur son out and show it 2 neil and tell him 2 f**k off..she takes one yr 2 realise all dis...guys stop supporting her crap decisions..so wat u expect aarav 2 do...go and hug his mom..forget gettin him out of jail...she does not meet him also..and u guys say ragini is right..from which angle...wat neil did he did...wat did ragini do ..if she points one finger at him..5 fingers point at her as well..things dat could hv been sorted..elongated only becos of ragini..period

Okay again this going to be long...again. And I am in full mood today.
Acha where to start. Neil has committed the bigger mistake. He was fully at fault for Aarav's mess and then ran alway to America, and publicly disowned ragini's side of the kids. Now Ragini did not see Aarav for emotional reasons, at least she was remembering him, he was somewhere at the back if her mind always while the same could not said for Neil. Please do not try to justify all of Neil's mistakes with Ragini's mistakes, that is just ridiculous.

To get her son out of jail, yeah if she had the money, court on her side she might have but Aarav was at fault afterall. He had the gun in a public place and threatened to kill someone. And now knowing you and many people, you will say she could've taken help from Neil. Well I don't think a mother would've taken help from the man who was the very reason her son was in jail. And before you say it, it ain't ego it's self respect.

Now before you say Ragini is treating Aarav like a hardcore criminal, no it was her emotions which prevented her from seeing him because she could not see him.

Thus Ragini is right, from many angles to me. And I don't know why but you continuously bring up Aman and his relationship with Ragini. Just because Ragini is engaged to dr. Aman does NOT mean her love for her children has lessened. I don't know how many times I have to say this but it is never enough.

Her decisions are not crap, some of them are pretty good and please don't make me give you a whole list and if you want to, just read my previous comments, you keep asking the same question and we keep giving the same answers

They both are at fault, admit that. Only degrading Ragini's character will not make Neil a saint.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Totally agree with JB-US^
After the sentence/before they separated is where I find the biggest mistakes for both. Although Nachiket was wrong to hide Aarav's problems from Ragini, their relationship was still salvageable (or at least partly).

Ragini began pushing Nachiket away by blaming him for Aarav going to jail. This was her mistake. She should have thought about the matter again with a cool head and after listening to Nachiket's side of the story. Half-knowledge is dangerous.

When the Ronnie issue surfaced, Nachiket said that he would not make the same mistake of not explaining himself to Ragini again. By clearing up that misunderstanding, he started to bring trust back into their relationship. But this time, Nachiket's ego got the better of him and he pushed her away, blaming her for not understanding him and jumping to conclusions. He should have talked to her again after she had a chance to cool down and ensured her that he did what he thought was in Aarav's best interest.

If they had worked together calmly, they could have found a solution. Both were in the wrong on this one and you cannot justify either Nachiket or Ragini's mistakes.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JB-US

But that is how trust it broken. Of course the child would be scared and be like don't tell my mom but you being the adult has to understand that if your child's LIFE is in danger, the other parent has to know. Both have to know, even though it happens all around does not mean its correct, that is what we have to understand. Just because it's popular does not mean it's right and just because it's right does not mean it has to be popular. Now that whole thing about Aman, he is not her guru but he does give reasonable advice.

I mean her son is in jail! Goons tried to kill him! He was beaten up and on the brink of suicide, now I don't know about you but I think neil really should've told Ragini then.
As for what I would do if my child was in that position is get my husband involved, I mean he is the father. Of course, the parent is going to be mad but they are the ones who are going to help you. Thus in that sense Neil was wrong to me. He did not have enough faith in Ragini that she was going to help Aarav out or be emotionally okay.



Agree. Even if the child begs you not to divulge the truth to the other parent, as a parent and a partner yourself, you are obligated to tell the other parent especially in a serious situation like Aarav's. If your child is in danger, that should be your first priority, to safeguard him even if it means telling your partner the whole truth. Neil was irresponsible and it is not easy for any mother to excuse the father for keeping the truth from her especially since it landed her son in jail. Aarav is still behind bars so am totally with Ragini if she cannot forgive Neil.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh please stop dis forgiveness jhaap...do you really think it matters anymore...im sayin neil was fully at fault in aarav's case..so why should ragini ever forgive or trust him again..but d point im tryin to make is completely different...if u say ragini is rite in aarav's case..from which angle..forget neil..as a mother...wat has she done for him..sum say dat she could not ask for help from neil becos of her self respect..fine...but den u have dr aman. Ok forget the help from dr aman also...could she not have kept a tab on his mental health and the stress dat aarav was goin thru..whatever aarav did dat day was at the spur of the moment..he had not planned it..so u just cant leave him to dogs. Common if you had problems with neil den sort the same matter with dr aman rather than getting engaged...Till date ragini keeps sayin dat dr aman has done lots for her...wat is dat lot...i really want to know..just by crying on his shoulders does not mean he has done anythng great. Infact ragini also says dat she has brought up her children on her own..so where was dr aman..why dese kind of statements.
Sorry boss if neil messed up the matter...ragini has done no good

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