Isn't Neil Responsible More Than Ragini For Aarav And Nishi Condition

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Isnt neil more responsible ??????? if we look at everything today ...he says he has just three kids ...after putting those two in biggest problems of life ...after leading them to those problems ...he has just backed out of his responsibility leaving everything on ragini ...what is her mistake to deserve this ????? she put her whole life for her kids and now she is seeing her kids trying killing themselves and neil enjoying with his share of kids ...buying chain of hospitals ...it is as if he came to take revenge on ragini ...to spoil her kid's life , so that she cannot live in peace ever ...the wayyy he is behaving ...15 years back , he couldn't set his priorities right ...lied to his wife about something ,he should have never lied ...stick to those lies ...blamed her for not trusting him after she saw him holding hands with his ex-girlfriend and him lying when she called ...never gave right explanations ...asked her to leave to mom house ...choose his friends baby over his babies and left her to suffer...divorced her ...but all i saw her before their uniting was ragini saying sorry sorry ...and him saying galti meri bhi thi...and that's it ...it was more his mistake ...any wife would have reacted that way ...and all she demanded was explanations...he could have done that anyway but he choose to divorce ..???? ...still cant forget those tears in ragini's eyes when pam was putting salt on her wounds saying nachiket took the right decision to divorce her ...and today ...he is again back to be that looser ...again blames her for everything in the world...and has broken ties with those children whom he put in trouble...who feel he is there superhero...couldn't digest that he didn't take nishi call...neither gave importance to the fact that ragini called when he guessed rightly it was raginiii...
And why in the world is he doing this ...because ragini said that he dont loves his children...is partial towards them...doesn't care ...wow isn't that great ?????...ragini said the same thing when they divorced ...than why the hell he tried showing concerns for nishi then...tab phek deta woh family photo why now ...what is kids mistake in all this ...today after being responsible of all this...he is easily backing out ...

A mother who put her whole life for her children...was not financially stable but did her best , work endlessly ...got her children admitted in best colleges /schools ...took loans for them...worked hard ...didn't even let her children know about her everyday struggles...that women childrennn...her children trying to kill themselves ...i cant even imagine what pain she must be going through ...and PK ...she justifies it to T...its her children who aren't able to fight back...but is she actually responsible for puttting them in such situations ???????? or it was their supercool dad whom they worship...??????

Nishi wanted to get married ...ragini denied...she knew that was not the right age , she was protective ...she fought with nishi , when lost there as she was adamant ...put an act in front of in laws so that they deny the marriage themselves even when she knew she would look wrong and will have to go through harsh comments for that...she did it ..."khud buri bani woh"...but wanted to save her daughter ...she wanted her daughter to stand on her feet so that she could fight the hardships in life ...achievements always help in building confidence ...she wanted her daughter to be independent first ...to study first...to be something in life first ...she saw immense love of jignesh and nishi but still couldnt agree to take such big risk...she knew her daughter was too small for marriage ...she wouldn't be able to handle ...she allowed but requested that that marriage will take place after 5 years...she was right...by that her daughter would have been independent ...would have been confident ...could have fought with hardships better...but ofcourse as at this age , its damn difficult to understand our parents ..nishi fought ..choose to call her dad...thought may be he could help , not realizing she is gonna hurt her mother too badly in this...she did that ...and the superdad who was not interested in kids for the last 15 years ...suddenly calls ragini...talks all the shit in the world , make her feel miserable ...ask her to get nishi married to the person of her choice so that "usse dobara call na karna pade "...dint even try understanding her reasons for saying no...that wasnt a discussion...she was told she has put her kids in a jail , a jail of her rules ...and they can't breath and what not and that too by a person whom she loved once...hated it...cried badly , couldn't believe her daughter did this...in ultimate despair and sadness ...agrees for the marriage ...and wow nishi is happy ...did neil ever asked reasons before ragini previous decision ????? was it actually ragini decision to get her daughter married at such a small age ...no it was that hurtful words which he spoke which lead her to agree to such a decision ...and that's how nishi got married...she as a mother again did everything ...was ready to sell her house for her daughter wedding as well...she did her level best to make it special for her daughter...now when she is getting married...she wanted her marriage to be a dream...decided n number of functions even knowing that she is financial crisis...but no...she had to do her best and yesss she succeded in that ...

and second issue , Arav loved shilpa...ragini got to know that ...explained him that he is too small for all that...tried to calm him down...talked to him aloneee...he decided to prove himself by doing business ...she knew he is too small for it ...interfered in between ...asked him/ordered him not to proceed in such a direction...first finish his studies...not letting him go that side /stopping him with all her force...catching his lies , being strict and alasss his dad came to his rescue and says let him do business if he is interested . No discussion nothing ...he supported aarav secretly as well...ragini was unaware , he kept her unaware . Ragini still tried , he said things supporting arav infront of ragini ...winning over Aravv..ragini tried to argue that she is worried but aarav nachiket become a team and he continued . She was scared if he loose at such stage , he will be broken . Its not his age for doing business and she was right but become helpless because super daddy cool was supporting ...she told nachiket "tum chale jaoge " as well...but alas he never listened . Aarav first project was nachiket wedding and nachiket was not aware of it...when he supported him in such a dangerous idea , how could he let himself be so unaware about it ...it was his wedding for which he had to take loan from outside and it was his fiancee who never returned the money he put into wedding . I have never seen wedding planners not getting money if wedding gets broken...and the people involved in wedding not knowing who is the wedding planner . That irresponsible was nachiket towards arav . Arav dint got any money ...landed into a biggg trouble...knew dad has money , may be he can help him...went to him with wounds for help...dint wanted mom to know as he know she was right and he was all wrong and she will be heartbroken...but it was nachiket's responsibility to tell...she told him even the small issue regarding ranbir as well...that was not life risking but he never cared to tell. Instead asked his wounded son to go in the mud house and went for dinner with ragini . What kind of father does that ??????? he was his son , all wounded...he should have cancelled the dinner ...get ragini in and they should have stayed with their son ...arranged for money ...kaise bhi...but no he was relaxed ...he didnt cared ...he was busy romancing with ragini...when ragini got madly worried ...he lied ...lied yet agin . In such a crucial situation . That bhai reached there , got arav loacation...instead of pleading that bhai or running to his child ...he told arav to run from there...was showing attitude to that bhai ...which ofcourse was a dangerouss thing . Ragini listened and got to know .They all rushed ...aarav was heartbroken...was not in sesnses at all...he was of that age ...that was what was bound to happen.That was what ragini feared . Ranbir comes ...who never loved shilpa ...suddenly decided to propose her...i still dont believe he ever loved shipla ..it was only to make arav fall in a miserable condition ..and on the top of it , ranibir .brought a gun along with him ...all the mess happens...the son accepts he was wrong and wish to kills himself ...shilpa dies in all this mess...arav gets jailed...ragini fires nachiket for doing this ...and he tries a bit...as her " mera ghar intezaar kar raha hain"...i mean "mera ghar "...and then happily moves to america ...without caring that the son is in jail...without ever trying to do anything for him...leaving a mother who was shattereddd...just because she said ...

Now you decide ...wasn't he much more responsible for this condition of kids than ragini herself...he took them to such a path ...why couldn't he be protective of them...and now when they are in a mess ...he left them on their own and living a happy life in america .And kids are dying here and so is ragini . She is bearing the burnt of things she never wanted . Kids got support in nachiket and thats why never listened to their mom ...taunted her , insulted her . But that's how most of kids are , they are most of the times unable to understand that what their mothers want is for their benefit . My heart goes to ragini and I fume seeing Neil all happy and not caring at all about his family in India when he himself is somehow the reason of them landing in such troubles .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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He is totally responsible.
He never allowed Ragini to interfere this much with his side of kids, but he really gave bad advice to both Nishi and Aarav. Maybe it was unintentional on his part, he wasn't the correct person to offer advice ,s since he himself was no way involved with his kids in US. But he did meddle which ended badly for these kids.

R was too strict with the kids I realise, and she chose to make decisions for them. That was more because she knew that she had to fulfil a Father's responsibilities as well. If R's own father had been alive, she could probably have let her guards down. But with no senior male member in the household, she had to step up to the situation which she did. She had her own set of problems, like any other human being.

Outside the court, N was not happy when R asked Ranbir what was he doing with the gun at the railway station? If he as the Father couldn't even tolerate the Mother asking the son a valid question, how could he then hide such big things about Aarav from R to begin with? The most mind boggling question - how did he not know that Aarav was the event planner for his roka, engagement and probably wedding, if it had happened?

Ragini takes the entire blame for the situation. Even now. In the recap, she tells N, who is unconscious, that it's her fault that Nishi's Father is not contacting with her. It's absurd.
How could a Father not call his daughter back?Especially when he knows her now? If it was after the 15 years hiatus, I would have understood. he was damn here for the wedding.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You actually gave words to all my thoughts. The makers are busy showing ragini as a failure and Neil as the best single parent.
Had Neil not returned after those 15years and played the rich, cool daddy who doesn't say no to anything...nishi and aarav would have to listen to Ragini.. Yes, they would still shout, blame her...but they would have to adjust with time and perhaps they would have become mature with time and education that Ragini was begging them to complete. There are a lot of bratty teenagers who don't understand their parents, are selfish and foolish. But they do come around with time. Saying yes to all their demands is not a solution, rather it spoils them even more.

Neil said yes to everything they wanted , ignored Ragini's reservations and gave nishi and aarav an easy way out. Since Neil would get things done for them anyhow, they did not care to talk to or understand their mom. They joined the daddy team and literally stepped over their mom.
With Neil ready to do everything for them irrespective of her wishes, Ragini couldn't even resort to forcing them to accept what she is saying as she is the family head.

I agree he meant no harm, but he has a big hand in turning those two brats into adamant, out of control individuals.

I know NB would never touch upon Neil's faults here. The super daddy would come and all problems would get solved magically.
But I hope NB shows problems in the lives of ranbir, agham and suhani due to absence of a guiding mother. The story looks very one sided right now.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good valid points from everyone but no comments from my side
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Posted: 10 years ago
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very well said TM and all the comments. Unfortunately we are lumbered with know it all NB.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agreed with the comments. ragini and Neil both had different set of values in life and that led to all the difference in POV that caused all the trouble. Moreover Ragini's children Nishi and Aarav come across as quite immature and somewhat selfish.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic

He is totally responsible.

He never allowed Ragini to interfere this much with his side of kids, but he really gave bad advice to both Nishi and Aarav.Exactly R told him a good thing ...that talk to ranbir about shilpa ..his behaviour ..he just make her go shut . Never talked to Ranbir ...he never saw his mistakes and is ignoring till today . He will even create a bigger mess in future . Even bigger than this .

Maybe it was unintentional on his part, he wasn't the correct person to offer advice ,s since he himself was no way involved with his kids in US. But he did meddle which ended badly for these kids. I know it all has been unintentional...who wants to harm his own kids but he was too inexperienced for giving such important advices and should have been discussing with ragini instead of supporting kids blindly ...now look what they did to themselves ...but now he needs to fulfil his responsibilities and understand that he has one good share in landing them into this mess . Thankfully he is india for nishi atlast . Nishi was the reason he came back to india then once again she is the reason .

R was too strict with the kids I realise, and she chose to make decisions for them.At the age of 18 and aarav even smaller , we are actually not that mature and see ragini was right always ...she very well knew what will harm them and what will not . But they weren't able to understand her .I am 21 and still my mother takes important decisions of my life and it should be that way i feel . That was more because she knew that she had to fulfil a Father's responsibilities as well. If R's own father had been alive, she could probably have let her guards down.I genuinely dont feel she has been like too strict ...if she was too strict ...how kids were planning their moms wedding with aman sir ...nishi has been shouting from day 1 ...she hasnt like jailed them in a set of rules...when we leave kids on their own...this mess happens . Her strict ways were atleast taking kids in right direction .But with no senior male member in the household, she had to step up to the situation which she did. She had her own set of problems, like any other human being.Yup i agreee...she has her own set of mistakes...no one is perfect...and parents themselves learn during parenting ... but she has been way more responsible than her counterpart .

Outside the court, N was not happy when R asked Ranbir what was he doing with the gun at the railway station? If he as the Father couldn't even tolerate the Mother asking the son a valid question, how could he then hide such big things about Aarav from R to begin with?He till today don't reliaze that ragini was right when she said ranbir used arav for taking revenge from ragini...that was the truth . I wish he gets to know about this and about a lot more and stops ranbir else he will create a bigger mess. And yup exactly ...he feels she has no right to question her son on wrong act but he has all rights to interfere / hide about her set of kids from her . He never actually realizes his mistakes . He till today dont realize ...what he did and how it affected ragini to take such a harsh step. The most mind boggling question - how did he not know that Aarav was the event planner for his roka, engagement and probably wedding, if it had happened?Exactly...the whole world knows ...his friends know ...his kids know but he doesn't know and even didnt catch up on arav much after directing him on that path . He should have regularly meeted and talked to him na if he suggested this kind of think . But he had no interest ...he left arav alone to business at an age of less than 18 .

Ragini takes the entire blame for the situation. Even now. In the recap, she tells N, who is unconscious, that it's her fault that Nishi's Father is not contacting with her. It's absurd. Exactly ..one's heart melt ...even while explaining about her broken marriage ...she says she dont want her to repeat the mistakes she did . So she accepts she did mistakes . Today in phonecall also she agreed with neil on that but neil ...he feels he is never wrong ...he kind of never realizes his mistakes . His dialogues are poorly written...the way he says he tried to save the marriage ...but he couldn't just shows he blames it on ragini . He dont understand his lie was big enough for ragini to break and he lied after promising nth times not to lie again . i can relate to ragini when she said ki tum jhooth hi bolege , you will never stop lying bas situations different hongi...circumstances different honge . And that was truth ...that has been happening to her .
How could a Father not call his daughter back?Exactly ...what is nishi's fault in all that ??????she considers him her hero...his presence matters for her the most ....Especially when he knows her now? If it was after the 15 years hiatus, I would have understood. he was damn here for the wedding.Exactly ...agar woh tab hi phone na karta nishi ke kehne par ...phir bhi kuch samajh aata but ab...ab when he has been with her ...ab when he knows how much she loves him , respects him, idols him...thankfully he is back for her daughter atlast . Sometimes the presence of a person you desire the most does helps a lot in coming out of depression . Btw i am proud of ragini ...she called so many times...keeping her ego aside ..for her little daughter .

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes I am happy that Ragini called, keeping her ego aside. She did mention to N that she will do anything to keep her daughter happy
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic

Yes I am happy that Ragini called, keeping her ego aside. She did mention to N that she will do anything to keep her daughter happy

yup ...and he got angry aise hi...i mean common she was trying to say that as she asked him to move out of her life ...thus she isnt forcing ...she wasnt trying to prove that she was a good mother or he was a bad father . But he went on different path.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good valid points from everyone but no comments from my side

awww thanks ...i am glad you found points valid ...but why no comments...would have loved to hear your views on it ...😊

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