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Originally posted by: tashi26

Oh god Arpita, the way you have discussed about the ending, I am more scared about Lavanya Arnav relationship.

Specially after re reading Lavanya’s interlude, Manali was so confidant that Arnav is coming back to her.

For me emotional infidelity is as bad as physical.

Because I don’t think khushi will be able to forgive that, even if Arnav does everything to redeem himself.

After her accident, he struggled with telling her how he felt. It came home to him at that time how much she had come to mean to him. He did get the words out eventually. Where did that feeling disappear? He made a lot of assumptions about her desire to have a child. Yes she did want the child, but she wanted him to want that too. She always tried to look out for his happiness and well being. How did he not understand that she would not just snatch an opportunity to do something without him being fully on board? He never openly discussed his feelings and his reasoning. Just went about making the decisions without involving her. Like other readers have pointed out before, he did not treat her as an equal.

Shyam is a master manipulator. He knows his mother will side by him and do anything he wants. He uses that to exert power and do his dirty deeds. He is not a changed man at all. Like Khushi thinks, he has become more dangerous. Before, he was a goon and it was obvious to everyone. Now he hides under a guise of a changed person and uses his mother to serve his agenda. When he didn't get what he wanted from Khushi, he did not hesitate to threaten her that his mother would be reporting to her parents. He knows where that will get him exactly. He knows the power he holds and the fact that she does not hold any. Power that he is all too happy to leverage for himself.

Khushi's helplessness and complete breakdown was so sad to see. She has nothing left in her life to look forward to. She has no one she can depend on for support. Her own parents, much as they love her, can not help her any more. Going home brought the realization of how little a woman is valued by the old fashioned society. The men call all the shots. This is what Arnav had hated about that place. The guess is, Anjali was put through the ringer by that same mode of thinking and he started hating it when he saw what his sister had to face. He did not want Khushi to be the next victim, but his own actions helped send her there.

I don't think Khushi has the right facts about when, where and how the cheating happened. When she mentioned that he brought another woman to their home and bed every time she was away sorting out family issues, his reaction was "what?". We know he cheated. We don't know for how long. But what she has been told is not the complete truth either. How did she get this wrong information? Did Manali have something to do with this? I wouldn't put it past her.

Khushi has taken the first step towards realization. No matter how much pressure there was on her to say yes, she knew she had to say no to Shyam. She fought back and did not give in when he tried to manhandle her. She is broken, but she knows what is happening with her is not right. She wants to be able to have a choice about her life. She has been backed into a corner and she knows it.

What happens now is up to her. We want her to take charge. I would love to see her get some education and a job. She needs to decide her future.

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Agreed to almost everything that you said.

This gave me some peace. Bakwas's version made me tremble in fear. If what Bakwas said is indeed true then i don't know how i will survive reading them.

As tashi said if he is indeed got fed up with her semi-traditional way of life (i believe khushi has also changed over the time, she is also no more the khushi of 2005), remember how she was afraid when he was going out with akash & payal to the bar..her traditional conservative upbringing made her scared & she question him and then how in 2015, they have a bar in their home itself and he was drinking at home when the lawyer came and khushi came to bid goodbye to him (ch-3). This says something to me atleast...i don't think arnav would have gone to make a bar set up in home if khushi would have been that uncomfortable that she was in 2005. This means she has also got modernized in her thoughts...yes, may be not to the extent of arnav but she did. Also i feel modernization doesn't mean uprooting yourself from your roots and forgetting all your values and culture. A healthy modernization for me can be an amalgamation of both your traditional values and modern values and finding a middle ground. (May be coming from my small town mindset but yes thats what i think).....So yes i say khushi is semi-traditional now in 2015. I also don't feel she demanded a child, she is just not the demanding type and yes she rather should have been a little demanding. Remember what payal said to arnav in the new year party.

However, as i was saying if he indeed got irritated and fed up because of khushi's traditional ways, as tashi said then i don't know how to hate him any more.

Her traditional ways for all these years made him what he is..gave him a home, a solace. Can you ever imagine a Lavanya making that dingy house home for arnav or doing what khushi did to make arnav ASR..even anamika couldn't do it, so lavanya is a far far cry. So if he found emotional solace in L now when he became the ASR while cheating khushi then i don't what to say anymore other than that he is a bast*rd of the 1st category.

Your last part-> "No excuses for Arnav or the morally corrupt Lavenya. You don’t sleep with a married man, period. Manali may be a villain but she didn’t sleep with Arnav. Lavenya is the star vamp." Yes yes yes and a thousand yes...absolutely NO EXCUSES.

If there is problem in the marriage/relation you talk and find ways to solve it, not ignore the other person like plague....how does going into someone else's bed or bringing someone else in your bed solves the problem??

I guess i also should revisit the chapters, as arpita has left so many little hints and loose ends which will make sense now after this little revelations...but i don't have the guts.

Ok, I decided to keep my preconceived opinion aside and read some parts of story from Arnav's perspective and give him a fair chance but alas!

Their main bone of contention was Khushi wanted baby and Arnav did not. Burdened with responsibilities since teenage, maybe Arnav didn't want additional responsibilities and restrictions that come with babies but he imposed his decision ignoring her desire, a selfish mistake. He got married very early at 24, was happy with Khushi but their relationship became stagnant and pressurized due to baby talks.. But neither Khushi was nagging nor demanding, she always adjusted and compromised.

Unlike very traditional Khushi, Arnav is a modern man to begin with. Money, power and new ways of film industry showed him the life style he never knew. He liked parties, interactions with creative people as well as gorgeous women day in and day out and many of them like Lavanya who lacked moral throwing themselves on him, easily available.. He married young, never dated much or had fun for himself, but the new exposure luring him to no strings attached fun, to me bungee jumping symbolizes the new thrills he developed cravings for.. In his urge to still be righteous, Arnav kept convincing himself that marriage is dead, they have grown apart, but it was him who chose new lifestyle straying away from his wife and his own family, remember his mom complained! In his chase to power and money, Arnav turned ASR, compromised his ethics, values and committed adultery.. As I have been saying all along, Arnav assumed what suited his desires, didn't want to discuss or resolve differences within, never adjusted to accommodate Khushi's choices, recklessly deserted Khushi ignoring her contribution in his pursuit and ultimately chose to find solution outside marriage while being in the marriage, completely unacceptable... His assumptions about her, too late realization has costed Khushi dearly!! Had he simply talked and separated first and followed his desires would have caused less commotion!

Khushi too was aware of their strained relationship & his withdrawal, wanted to work things out but never in her wildest dreams, she expected Arnav to cheat! She anticipated separation, or even divorce and would have fought it out. But the infidelity was never on the cards! And that along with family's reaction broke her completely!

Arnav being astute business man exactly knew what he wanted from Lavanya.. While he enjoyed the sex, even shared info about his marriage status to keep her hooked but nothing more.. Imagine Lavanya being obsessed / in love with him since 2009, for 6+ years and Arnav unceremoniously dumped her in the party over casual chat in public place without flinching and walked away! Still zero sympathy for Lavanya for involving with a married man while Manali is just a shrewd messenger! Lavanya is bound to explode before going down completely if rejection is what Arnav serves her finally.. Also note, Lavanya too wants genuine relationship / marriage in the long run and he does not.

But Lavanya or Manali are not Khushi's culprits, her own husband Arnav is! If anybody is the star villain here, it's Arnav and his control freak decision dumping habit based on wrong assumptions, without discussing or letting his wife and loved ones choose..! Side effect rag to riches journey, Arnav worked extremely hard and genius at business decisions, he became the over confident, reckless ASR.. Now also, Arnav wants to give her everything she asked for except babies, but is that what he wants and is that what she wants after knowing his adultery? He is still not addressing the root cause; not wanting a baby which has landed them here..

I am waiting for Arnav's thought process during adultery phase and Khushi's comprehension after hearing his side. It's ok for Arnav to separate and do things he wants instead of doing things out of just guilt and shame! So does Khushi, she should pursue her dream to have a simple domestic life with kids of her own!

If Arnav really wants to reconcile, he has to love her unconditionally, fulfil her every desire including babies and also they became rag to riches together so he must add her as equal partner in businesses / shares irrespective of they stay together or not, I will take care of you is complete bullshit (why she thought "Today, I realized, Arnav, that my life and I are worth nothing if you are not standing by my side" because he never treated her equal, never asked or respected her views and just imposed his decisions on her), let's see what path our brilliant writer Arpita choses for them...

- Swati

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

That is true Ashvini. Again, it’s a topic that I know for sure will leave a certain segments of readers unsatisfied.

Especially with the kind of ending I have in mind, because I don’t even for a second believe that a 100% people will be onboard with it.

End may very well upset people who were rooting for a redemption for Arnav and Arshi to end up together. (Because I’ve received dms /mails about it 😅, especially from old readers).

It could also anger people who wanted Khushi to just be done with Arnav and move on, or it could make both the segments really really mad at me for choosing something entirely else.

I have already thought about how I am going to deal with the aftermath of it. The penultimate chapter , before the epilogue may just give a good idea about where we say bye to this Khushi and Arnav and I’ll be offline for a good day or two after that and let you guys pour your thoughts out😅. Let’s just say my best hope with the story is that the time y’all have spent here was worth it 😅

Irrespective of our thoughts, we want your choice of ending as a writer, period! Yes, not everyone will be happy, so be it...

As long as you don't kill anyone or make them compromise too much due to their original beliefs in lives, it's all good. We are in 21st century after all.. Hopefully every character in the story evolves, makes pragmatic decisions (especially Khushi) to come out of the situation life & people they loved threw them in...

Arnav had been responsible and worked hard all his life, it's ok if he chooses to stay single, enjoy the work and its perks... Now I understand he is no womanizer, could date and enjoy what he loves but learn from his past... My hint was from first chapter, he was ok to be pathetic scum to live life on his own terms!

Khushi on the other hand must come out of depression, learn self worth and go with the domesticity she loves so much... My hint was from the 9th chapter, this was not the matter of not wanting someone else, she specifically did not want Shyam Manohar Jha! She somewhere was mentally getting ready to move on from Arnav and yet watch him succeed in life and be happy for him from a distant! Afterall he is her first love!

Maybe Arnav will cross her path one day when she is walking with gorgeous little daughter who is replica of Khushi, a naughty son and a nice husband who knows balance of work and domestic life better than Arnav though he may not be as rich as Arnav! Let Arnav see what he could have had with few adjustments but life goes on... Little jealousy and remorse won't hurt for sure!

If they reconcile, we will see what changes Arnav brings to the table and what Khushi accepts versus learns to demand as equal partner!

Though as a queen of twists and turns, you might bring a completely different ending and I rather thrive for that...

Cheers,

Swati

Swati, I so agree with you on your basic understanding. I believe the bungee jumping, New Zealand trip had something to do with Lavenya and the infidelity. Like you said, the thrill of something new and exciting maybe was shared by them and the exhilaration of the incident led him to throw caution to the wind and sleep with her. Arpita doesn’t throw things in without a reason. I know there have been times that I have shared a wonderful experience with someone and for the moment you feel close to that person because of that shared experience. Maybe that was Arnav at that point. He felt a companionship with her at that moment. Someone who understood at that moment. Just my musings.

I was sure from the beginning of the story that not having children was one of the root causes of the marriage breakdown. An Indian couple, or indeed any couple without children after a ten year marriage, is bound to be suspect. And in many cases the family will put pressure for grandchildren. And it doesn’t matter whether Khushi is traditional or not. She is a loving woman that wants children. I’m not judging Arnav for not wanting kids. Not everybody does and that is fine but the way he went about it in relation to Khushi is wrong.

And, I believe that Khushi has become a good mix of modern and traditional. She seems to have gained admiration within the Bombay society that they run in. Her traditional ways of putting her family first has been to her detriment but has certainly benefited Arnav. The homes they have shared she has managed to run beautifully and have become places he can be proud of. And she has always supported him and so what if she doesn’t want to work? Isn’t that choice a rich modern woman can make too.

I’m sorry but if becoming modern is becoming like a Lavenya or someone that Arnav has turned into; no thanks! Some of her traditional values are needed to keep him grounded. She is trying to maintain relationships and care for her and his family. He has a very ill father and Anjali must have major problems that need to be addressed. She does spend time in Lucknow but according to his mother both of them have moved away from more traditional values so maybe she was there only when needed.

I guess I am trying to say as a Western woman I find very little fault with Khushi’s dealing with Arnav’s life style. I don’t think the respect is there for how she has gracefully and successfully fit herself into it. But, then I am not Arnav and married to her. His needs at some point weren’t being met. But he has pushed her away. Reading silences is fine and it says she was able to do that at one point but she is not a mind reader. And Khushi’s fault she has never passionately voiced what she wanted. By the same token, Arnav is not a mind reader either. His controlling nature and her gentle nature and upbringing contribute to their lack of communication.

However, I have been wrong in the past about what Arnav’s actions were going to be. I was surprised that he didn’t go to Dubai. Arnav has many admirable qualities as a self made man. And Khushi was lucky that she got a husband that was more enlightened about a woman’s place in society. But sometimes one action will so overshadow everything else that a life will be shattered and forever altered. It’s happened here. Now for a resurgence.

I have said a lot of this before in my posts. But my gosh, I think I am way too much involved with this story. First time in my long life.

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Swati, I so agree with you on your basic understanding. I believe the bungee jumping, New Zealand trip had something to do with Lavenya and the infidelity. Like you said, the thrill of something new and exciting maybe was shared by them and the exhilaration of the incident led him to throw caution to the wind and sleep with her. Arpita doesn’t throw things in without a reason. I know there have been times that I have shared a wonderful experience with someone and for the moment you feel close to that person because of that shared experience. Maybe that was Arnav at that point. He felt a companionship with her at that moment. Someone who understood at that moment. Just my musings.

I was sure from the beginning of the story that not having children was one of the root causes of the marriage breakdown. An Indian couple, or indeed any couple without children after a ten year marriage, is bound to be suspect. And in many cases the family will put pressure for grandchildren. And it doesn’t matter whether Khushi is traditional or not. She is a loving woman that wants children. I’m not judging Arnav for not wanting kids. Not everybody does and that is fine but the way he went about it in relation to Khushi is wrong.

And, I believe that Khushi has become a good mix of modern and traditional. She seems to have gained admiration within the Bombay society that they run in. Her traditional ways of putting her family first has been to her detriment but has certainly benefited Arnav. The homes they have shared she has managed to run beautifully and have become places he can be proud of. And she has always supported him and so what if she doesn’t want to work? Isn’t that choice a rich modern woman can make too.

I’m sorry but if becoming modern is becoming like a Lavenya or someone that Arnav has turned into; no thanks! Some of her traditional values are needed to keep him grounded. She is trying to maintain relationships and care for her and his family. He has a very ill father and Anjali must have major problems that need to be addressed. She does spend time in Lucknow but according to his mother both have them have moved away from more traditional values so maybe she was there only when needed.

I guess I am trying to say as a Western woman I find very little fault with Khushi’s dealing with Arnav’s life style. I don’t think the respect is there for how she has gracefully and successfully fit herself into it. But, then I am not Arnav and married to her. His needs at some point weren’t being met. But he has pushed her away. Reading silences is fine and it says she was able to do that at one point but she is not a mind reader. And Khushi’s fault she has never passionately voiced what she wanted. By the same token, Arnav is not a mind reader either. His controlling nature and her gentle nature and upbringing contribute to their lack of communication.

I have said a lot of this before in my posts. But my gosh, I think I am way too much involved with this story. First time in my long life.

Yes, I did write few very simple stories but never got involved so much in my stories as much as this one... Our gifted writer holds all the control and we are left at her mercy these days!

You may be so right about bungee jumping, lets wait and watch!

Somewhere Arnav turned ASR, got attracted towards new things in life and turned his blind eye to the best things in his life, his lovely wife who was his anchor and gave him the solace... She would have joined his thrill journey, wore western dresses if he gifts them too but he always informed or involved her last. He never tried to find middle ground or discuss.. She did ask him to change his decision about babies and care about her feelings but it royally backfired when he asked her to stop going to Lucknow to avoid the baby pressure...

As Tashi shared her personal experience some time back, all couples go through ups and downs in marriages, but how they emerge matters! I almost died and came back during my second delivery and my husband became my rock after that experience to guide me the best over the years, took double responsibility of kids and cooking when I did my masters and started my own business, always goes to extra mile to appreciate... My true better half!

Arnav somehow got self obsessed and had no qualms leaving his partner behind! He became cocky completely focused on his own desires ruining relationships along the way with his loved ones... The fault lies with changed Arnav, no doubt about it! He conveniently forgot the equal sacrifices made be Khushi for his family, she has had bigger heart and he took advantage of it!