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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: DurgaS

Faipa, 😳
Thanks for opening this pandora's box. It has got everyone into it, the chehel pahel is back. Yay! 😃 You may want to close the topic now, but I have been waiting all morning to put my two cents about it. So, please bear with me.
I have been reading everyone's comments and agree to most of them, especially Horizon. After learning about his Di's pregnancy, Arnav's main mission was to make Khushi unavailable to Shyam so that he goes back to his Di. He wants to put the picture back to normal so that his Di doesn't have to go through what his mother had to. The solution he came up with was to marry her, a decision which his subconscious mind made influenced by the state of his heart. But this he had to do asap, before Shyam could even get a hint about what he was up to.
Yes, he could have announced his decision to marry Khushi to all, but he didn't want to alert the so-called lovers and let them make alternative plans to escape from the situation. He very well knew how to blackmail Khushi into it. He also knew the marriage rituals were important to her. He waited till Payash marriage took place. My opinion, he observed that marriage to see what all was done. Then, he took Khushi to the temple where there was no one to stop him, and got married to her. (I still feel they even shot for the pheras then. Will explain why later) 😕So mission accomplished. Shyam will have no other option but go back to Anjali.
Now during all this, he didn't think about certain things. ASR is used to announce his decisions to his family all the time and in due course they accept his decisions. So, though he may have thought that they may be upset initially, but soon they would accept. What he didn't know was that everytime he made a decision that was unacceptable to the family, it was Shyam, the respected son-in-law, who would pacify everyone, especially Nani, and help them understand Arnav's pov,👏 thus bridging the gap between Arnav and Nani's varied thinkings. But now, the family lost that son-in-law, because now he was a selfish fretting alleged two-timer who leaves his wife to cry alone because now his own creepy plans have been squashed by the mighty ASR. So, now with no one to pacify them, the crying drama carries on longer than Arnav had expected.
Another thing that Arnav did not forsee at all was the treatment of Khushi by his and her family members. He wanted to punish her, yes. He wanted to bind her to himself, yes. He wanted to stop her from ruining his Di's life, yes. But, he never wanted her family to disown Khushi. He never wanted his family to treat her badly. He never wanted her to be mistreated by anyone. He never ill treated her in front of others.
Arnav made a hasty, miscalculated decision, the repercussion of which he hadn't thought of. Though it saved Khushi from the murky hands of Shyam, she had to suffer for long without even knowing the reason. Arnav didn't do much to stop her from revealing the truth to the family. Though, Khushi threatened to do so, she never really revealed. Why does love make one so helpless?


Durga😊

You are always welcome and I am so happy it got involved almost everybody and no big fuss which I avoid and that's why this is first time I opened any topic.Thnx for the encouragement.

When I came last night ,actually midnight after leaving earlier comments,I became more active to find the answers...you can't imagine how many times I watch these and earlier ones and as I respond to Indi...reached to the same major points ...

Loved every one's angle especially Horizon and Indi's and those have opened my brain more to different things.One thing I was assured without any discussion there was no revenge or humiliation involved in this matter...that with my closed eyes I believe and with my opened eyes I trust as HIS trait is absolutely is that because that is the reason I called him brave heart...He can embrace ocean in it without noise...

In red I know why are you saying that...they could've but I think they left it for future to come back...as they always did...

I love your angle how this time their beloved son-in-law wasn't there to pacify.Two timer was busy spinning his web to separate them...

In blue yes he made a solid yet hasty ,miscalculated decision which he realizes very soon...forget about later...he is seeing here while facing the family and that rages him more and that's why he goes mum in this matter with Khushi...as this was the another reason along with more I will discuss in my analysis.

Thnx Durga...❤️
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Episode-195

Shyam is crushing the rose petals with his hand in anger. He throws the flower on their bed with so mush despise. He is fuming like fire. When Khushi enters the room, Anjali carefully make her sit on the bed. She spreads the circumference of her ghagra on the bed, just like a newly wed bride sits on her suhaag raat bed, eagerly waits for her husband. But here, she is in tizzy anticipating Arnav's reaction. Anjali tells her that she is calling Arnav. khushi looks at her in a jolt hearing his name. Shyam is grimacing seeing her as Arnav's dulhan. Before leaving the room, he ogles Khushi lasciviously. Unfortunately Arnav enters there right then, what instigates him more. He glares at him with flagrant eyes, as if to kill him with his bare hand. Shyam also looks at him angrily. How dare he, giving angry glare at Arnav, where he is living in his parapet and leading profuse life on his money. It seemed that Arnav was about to say something, but can't say anything as Anjali calls him. So shyam leaves the room. Arnav shuts the door and looks at the resplendent beauty, who is waiting for him surrounded by the flower strings around.Again, he looks at his beautiful bride intently, as if he there is no contempt. Seeing him Khushi gets down from the bed. Arnav's resentment comes back in a jiffy. He tells her with gritted teeth,

chey mahine, pata nahi kaise bardasht karoo mein tumhare sath. Jaha tum saas logi, waha mai,

Six months, I don't know how will I endure staying with you. Where you will breathe, there I, disgusting. If I think of it, I

He even feels disgusted to talk to her. khushi retorts back,

Then why did you marry me? why are you doing this with you? Why are you making yourself suffer and making me suffer as well. neither do I want to stay in this house nor in your room.

pause: I'm astonished to see her love. he is literally blaspheming her, compelled her to marry him forcefully, but she is thinking of his sufferings. Cause she sure saw pain in his eyes.

Arnav retaliates her scathingly,

I know very well, where do you want to live. Neither you will be able to live there, nor here with me. do you understand?

He holds her arm and drags her with him, gets her out of the room. Aghast Khushi looks at him with consternation. Arnav resumes with a voice laden with contempt,

Understand one thing, outside this room, we will act like a happily married couple. I know how expert you are in acting. But inside this room, you are nothing to me. You mean nothing to me. From today my place is here in this room and your place is there.

He points his finger to the poolside.

He shuts the glass door in front of her face and turns back. His disdainful words ravaged her soul. Excruciating pain must be gnawing at her heart, making her soul tear apart, what I'm also feeling right now. My eyes are getting blurry, I'm unable to type further. rabba vey in piano is playing on the BG, what intensifies her pain more and more. Arnav turns back from her. Why he turned back? He knows very well, she must be crying. Her tears still dither him!

Arnav is lying down on the bed. But his eyes, wide open, bereft of all vestiges of elusive sleep . He sits up to get the comforter. His eyes go to the quivering form of khushi, sitting on the stone cold ground by the poolside. Putting her head on her knees, she is trembling in cold. A sharp dart of pain runs through his vein. He recollects how she fall sick in Naninital when he left her alone in the dark room. He gets up from the bed with the comforter. But his ego is bridling him to show relent on her. In his eyes she is a swindler and he hates her to the core. But at the same time the love is still there for her in the dark crevice of his heart. What he should do? He splutters, his rage is rendering him incoherent. She has mortified him completely. The heartless shrewd ASR is back now. He tears the flower strings of the bed vehemently. After releasing his frustration on the lifeless objects, his anger subsides a bit. So he moves towards the sliding door of the poolside. Again he fights with his ego and finally his ego lost to his love or can I say humanity. At the sound of the door, Khushi lifts her head in a jolt. She is looking derelict and crest fallen. He throws the comforter on her with so much loath. Khushi just doesn't take his mercy, she removes the comforter from her body and looks at him with teary eyes. A bevy sensation is rampaging through her body, scorching her to the very tip of her nerve. There is resentment, despondence, grief , abhorrence and disbelief in her eyes. She just can't imbibe the reason f his rancor. Poor girl, doesn't have any idea, what is her guilt. Arnav is in embroilment. He sits down on the chaise, squeezing his hands in perturbation. Khushi looks at him with eyes full of pain and he is also stealing glances at her. Both of their credence has been trampled tonight. Both are doused with avalanche of misery, pure, cold unforgiving, unrelenting.

Gosh I can't type, I'm sobbing again. Why there is so much pain in their love? Why I love them so much that their pain is piercing my heart severely.

Another tempestuous day has passed, the morning sun evanesces the gloomy night. But the gloominess of Arnav and Khushi's heart will not over so soon. Arnav dazed off on his chaise, where Khushi is in deep slumber on the stone cold floor by the poolside. Her head is rest on the edge of the pool. Covering herself with her dupatta, she is all curled up trying to protect herself from the cold. She is still shivering.

Anjali is knocking at the door to wake them up. After knocking for a while when they didn't open the door, she called Arnav by name. he wakes up in a jolt.

Pause: Gosh, Anjali is too much. Why she was disturbing the newly married couple so early in the morning! We know about the acrimony between them, but she knew that they had a love marriage. They might have long sleepless night. Hayee, I wish if their SR was like that! Unfortunately they didn't have a perfect SR after their remarriage also.😔 And the cvs is to blame for ruining their SR.😡

Arnav goes to the poolside to wake Khushi up. But Khushi doesn't wake up from his deep slumber. So rather wasting time, Arnav just picks dormant Khushi in his arms to get her in. Khushi wakes up by this time. When she finds that Arnav is carrying her in his arm, she tells him to leave her. Arnav puts her down inside the room and tells her that Anjali is at the door. He starts to clean up the mess what he did in anger last night. He tells Khushi to remove something from her head. Khushi doesn't get what he meant. There is a leaf on her head. When khushi can't remove it, he removes the leaf from her head. He tells her to hurry, otherwise Anjali may suspect something. Like a bravado Khushi retorts him,

So what?

Let her know, what you did.

(Sanaya's voice is still broken. Since two days her voice has been dubbed by somebody else, as she completely lost her voice. Finally she got her voice back)

Our khushi is not a helpless woman of hindi soaps. She is chivalrous and doesn't endure oppression without protest.

Arnav who was cleaning the bed, listens to her, but doesn't answer her. There is no time to fight now, as Anjali is waiting at the door for a long time. He just opens the door to let her come in.

Anjali brought a saree for her. she tells her to wear it for the chauka poojan. She is still looking upset. But at least she is providing clothes for her. Otherwise what Khushi would've worn. Poor girl, even didn't have clothes to wear.

In the kitchen mami is establishing her entity over Payal. She is sitting on top of the counter, eating and instructing Payal. Poor Payal is enduring mami's asperity silently. When she intends to use the oil, mami forbids her to use oil, as all the food of Raizada house are prepared only by ghee (clarified butter). She taunts her that this is not her bua's house, which is like a refugee camp. Payal runs here and there in the kitchen to look for ghee and mami intentionally misguides her to give her trouble. Finally she could find the precious ghee after rummaging for a while. By the way, if they eat food prepared only by ghee then they all will die young for sure. I don't want my man to die so young. 😃If I meet Khushi I'll definitely tell her to use olive oil instead of ghee.

When Anjali enters the kitchen with Khushi, mami comes to stop her. She tells her that she agreed for the grah pravesh for her sake, but she can't allow Khushi in the kitchen. Anajli tells her, then how her chauka poojan will be done.

Ckauka poojan or chauka dehan, I can't let her enter in my kitchen.

Anjali tries to make her understand that they are all upset about how their marriage took place. But as Khushi has become the member of the family, she has to perform the customs. mami is still obdurate. So nani comes and berates mami. She wants to give Khushi permission to perform the chuaka poojan, like the way, the grah pravesh custom has been done.

The way Payal has performed the rituals, same way Khushi will do it.

Mami tries to refute, but can't keep her stand in front of her nemesis mother in law. She reminds her that though she turned to a mother in law, but she is still her daughter in law. So she shouldn't forget that. Mami doesn't have courage to protest her MIL. Naniji tells Khushi to perform the pooja. But she also reminds her that she still didn't accept her whole heatedly. She is doing this for the sake of Anjali's happiness.

All leaves two sisters alone in the kitchen. Khushi is looking for mustard oil. Payal silently passes the oil to her. khushi thanks her but payal is still taciturn. Khushi intends to talk to her, but Payal doesn't. Khushi gets emotional to see her sister's nonchalance. She starts to cry and tells her to yell her, rather beat her, but she shouldn't stop talking to her. After all she is her loving jiji. Payal avoids her, remains busy in her work. Khushi follows her, pleading again and again to talk to her. She wants to say whatever happened, she doesn't. Payal snatches her words and asks,

Then what you? If you really want to do something for me, tell me, why did you do this?

Khushi cries, but can't answer her. How can she say that, she did it to save her marriage.

Payal gets upset. She says,

See, you have nothing except apology. You always do whatever you wish to do. You didn't think about the consequence for a moment. On my wedding day, you ran with babuji's document of the shop. But there should be a limit of everything. So don't even think that everything will be alright by begging sorry. Payal turns back after giving the tadka in the hot oil, what splashes hot oil to Khushi's hand, makes her hand burn. She winces in pain. Payal thinks she is pretending.

Pher se apna nautanki shuru karke humara dil behene ka koshish math karma

Don't try to win my heart by your shenanigan. It doesn't make any difference to me.

she leaves her alone. Khushi cries in scorching pain. I'm also crying for my Khushi. How much this young heart will endure!

pause: How Payal accused her for ruining her marriage, where she wanted to save her family from debt. I know she is mad at her to marry clandestinely, but I'm flummoxed to see her double standard. didn't she support her on that time. How suddenly her verdict changed on that issue!



Loved reading it Soha & nice gifs 😊 I liked your pauses - yes Khushi always prioritizes others' pain first... Your second pause - you naughty girl... It reminded me of zoha's boldest VM... I was a very innocent girl before joining IF... But ab mujhe ho kya gaya hai!!! I am sharing it here to lighten up the mood...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHCT17c14o

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHCT17c14o[/YOUTUBE]

Oh girl, you are so caring towards Arnavji... our Arnavji... Yeah olive oil is good... Actually it is good to include different types of oils in food, at different times... We used to add little ghee in rice... It is good for stamina 😊 Cookery tips bhi ho gaya...

With that it was almost a full-stop to Payal-Khushi sisterly bond :( Payal never ever tried to find out the real reason for their sudden marriage... But I can't really blame Payal too for it... Khushi's decisions most of the time have incurred loss to their family, though she does them with good intentions - dukhan documents, sweet shop,... As Arnav rightly said, she has the habit of messing up things wherever she goes... So maybe Payal assumed about Khushi... But as an elder sister she should have cared if Khushi is happy in her married life or not... She never ever questioned Khushi about it :(
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CONGRATULATIONS ROCKING KATE NO WONDER I WAS THE 1ST ONE TO WISH YOU EVEN BRFORE YOU TURNED RED👏😃 SO MISS RED RIDING HOOD WHAT NEW THINGS YOU ARE GOING TO DO FOR THIS THREAD😃 AND FORUM

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


Durga😊

You are always welcome and I am so happy it got involved almost everybody and no big fuss which I avoid and that's why this is first time I opened any topic.Thnx for the encouragement.

I trust as HIS trait is absolutely is that because that is the reason I called him brave heart...He can embrace ocean in it without noise...



Thanks di for raising this question... Loved the discussion... Arshi's love story is as deep as an ocean & we can keep on discussing it for years I guess... I loved what you told about Arnav's heart... Brave enough to face anything... He is vulnerable but has succeeded to mask it... He will never let anyone to see his tears mostly... I don't like men crying in front of others...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan



Di... I love GH track so so so much... Actually I love her 100 ways to irritate ASR... That was the first time I watched the show & liked it instantly... It took me 4 more episodes to fall in love with IPK completely... The first ever scene I saw was her first 'Aaj mausam hai suhana'...

Honestly I would prefer watching those scenes over any other track of IPK, as they would simply bring a smile on my face when she irritates him & he helplessly tolerates her acts...

That time I didn't even know why they both got married... Only during kidnapping track, I started to check the old episodes to know the story... In fact during my first watch, I didn't like the fairylight scene... The pre-marriage episodes looked so different to me after watching the forced-marriage track... But now I love all the scenes... After marriage rabba ves looked fresh & natural...



This is the first rabba ve I watched... A husband stealthily eating his wife's food, bali dance, fighting for a couch like kids, losing voice (the moment I fell in love with the show), heer-ranjha, swamy, rangoli nach, bed fight, laal naak, mechanic Arnav, iss duniya ke sabse achche pathi & all...

Though I love those episodes, like all IPK fans say I would also say that IPK was at its best in its first 8 months... Because the story was consistent & every actor had something to the story... But Arshi scenes remained best as always... Khushi bathing Arnav near the pump was OTT; even I was like why is she doing like this & got irritated... But when she said, 'if this is insult, then daily many people do the same'... She was right... She did it to irritate him & she was successful...

From the beginning IPK had some best, some good & some bad episodes... So di, cheer up & write your amazing takes on those episodes with the same enthusiasm... I hope you love them this time 😊


😆 AD you took my message wrong way...I love all what you are saying in blue and adore these...but you are saying it for yourself...OTT comedy ,showing Khushi a brainless cookie..That was the topic in between me and Indi...

Of course all these was important to build up their relation and that Preeto wedding is the one when the game plan of Arnav's thinking about Khushi changes.Her irritations were to force him to tell her why is he doing this to her ,what is the reason of this marriage , as she said I will make you to leave me and tell me go away but she had no clue that by doing all of this she actually made more entrance in his heart as he was open to her innocence day by day and got mesmerized and that was the point his own views changed to think of her as a home breaker.
But there are some un natural scenes in this track bothers me and that's why didn't go back to watch but their Love scenes...oh yeah all the time.You know I also have IramNasir long YT videos ...adore em and especially the payesh wedding and Holi...muahhh ..I also have all the love scenes...no one could be crazier than I am...

So u started IPK journey from GH ...sorry sorry Lakhon sorry...

Thnx for sharing your journey as we all started some where and see fell in love them instantly...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan



Thanks di for raising this question... Loved the discussion... Arshi's love story is as deep as an ocean & we can keep on discussing it for years I guess... I loved what you told about Arnav's heart... Brave enough to face anything... He is vulnerable but has succeeded to mask it... He will never let anyone to see his tears mostly... I don't like men crying in front of others...


You know what AD ...as I discussed this with Durga somewhere...Don't say that men shouldn't cry ...as that is the reason they hold on to it and become harsh ...I let my boys vent ...though society doesn't let em but I NEVER said them don't cry boys ,you don't look good as they keep this anger in them which needs to come out.Anything against the nature is just killing.

No doubt Arnav is a brave heart as he's seen this cruel world very early age and it made him what he is...
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Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


😆 AD you took my message wrong way...I love all what you are saying in blue and adore these...but you are saying it for yourself...OTT comedy ,showing Khushi a brainless cookie..That was the topic in between me and Indi...

Of course all these was important to build up their relation and that Preeto wedding is the one when the game plan of Arnav's thinking about Khushi changes.Her irritations were to force him to tell her why is he doing this to her ,what is the reason of this marriage , as she said I will make you to leave me and tell me go away but she had no clue that by doing all of this she actually made more entrance in his heart as he was open to her innocence day by day and got mesmerized and that was the point his own views changed to think of her as a home breaker.
But there are some un natural scenes in this track bothers me and that's why didn't go back to watch but their Love scenes...oh yeah all the time.You know I also have IramNasir long YT videos ...adore em and especially the payesh wedding and Holi...muahhh ..I also have all the love scenes...no one could be crazier than I am...

So u started IPK journey from GH ...sorry sorry Lakhon sorry...

Thnx for sharing your journey as we all started some where and see fell in love them instantly...



Di why are u saying sorry? I understand what you are trying to say... I agree it became over & over the top... But now you are going to review those OTT episodes & I hope you will like them better 😊

Loh ab doosra competition shuru ho gaya... Who has more YT videos... ha ha... And I will tell the same, no one could be crazier than I am 😆
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You know what AD ...as I discussed this with Durga somewhere...Don't say that men shouldn't cry ...as that is the reason they hold on to it and become harsh ...I let my boys vent ...though society doesn't let em but I NEVER said them don't cry boys ,you don't look good as they keep this anger in them which needs to come out.Anything against the nature is just killing.

No doubt Arnav is a brave heart as he's seen this cruel world very early age and it made him what he is...



You have to let out your tears to reduce the burden of your heart... But it should be in private... During both the breakdown scenes, Arnav did the same... I love that... I also love how he slowly confided in Khushi & sought solace in her arms... He only gave that haq to his di & Khushi... Haq to share his heart & see his tears...
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Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan



It is always nice to discuss about these two 😊 Yeah revenge is a very strong emotion to use for Arshi... An egoistic attitude - You didn't tell me the truth so I am not going to tell why I forcefully married you...

Now I get another question... Instead of Arnav, if someone else threatened Khushi like this, how would she react??? I think she would accept that too for the sake of her loved ones... When Arnav gave her money to come back & train Lavanya, she accepted the offer at the cost of her self-respect... She was ready to leave Arnav for Aarav... She is shown so selfless beyond belief... Yes her character wasn't written properly...

But I guess there was a lady writer too among the CVs... In 2 offscreen segments, Barun pointed out, 'gandhe log gandhe gandhe jagah pe scenes likthe hain' & then 'jithne bhi scenes jiske liye aap hamein gaaliyaan dethe hain, woh sab yeh likthe hain'... She might be 'janaki'!!! She is in the storyboard... Hope they paid attention to Khushi's character too... Still Sanaya managed to save Khushi to some extent...

I am surprised that even after an year we are still interested in discussing these characters... Indi's earlier signature was so apt... I don't remember that exactly... But we are all really crazy to discuss the show even after an year... If the CVs discussed atleast half that we do, we would have got the best till the end... Any way it's good...


AD 😊

You are mixing all these in a very different way.If some one else forced her this way she would never accepted that trust me..."uss rat himat karni chahiye thi...cheekh cheekh keh sach..."She would scream ...It was HIM she did as always...

You think she accepted money from some one else...no way it was him she accepted the offer as that was his way of helping her as well as bringing her back to RM for his Di...that's was the reason but it is always in between them...There is always a challenge in between them and others are just joining em...

Her respect is associated with him since the day 1 ,she joined it later...He felt so bad when her Di made him realize when he released those footage and when Aman calls him before her scooty banged to his SUV he was feeling bad and his anger rose...but he was so content seeing her indeed Akash was right she made a dent on his head...

We love to explore as there is nothing out there like it and there wasn't and there will be not...for a long time.Till something comes more than this and breaks this spell

We are all crazy that is the reason we are here...There is no competition its just I love to see these over and over.

Take care


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Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha


AD 😊

You are mixing all these in a very different way.If some one else forced her this way she would never accepted that trust me..."uss rat himat karni chahiye thi...cheekh cheekh keh sach..."She would scream ...It was HIM she did as always...

You think she accepted money from some one else...no way it was him she accepted the offer as that was his way of helping her as well as bringing her back to RM for his Di...that's was the reason but it is always in between them...There is always a challenge in between them and others are just joining em...

Her respect is associated with him since the day 1 ,she joined it later...He felt so bad when her Di made him realize when he released those footage and when Aman calls him before her scooty banged to his SUV he was feeling bad and his anger rose...but he was so content seeing her indeed Akash was right she made a dent on his head...

We love to explore as there is nothing out there like it and there wasn't and there will be not...for a long time.Till something comes more than this and breaks this spell

We are all crazy that is the reason we are here...There is no competition its just I love to see these over and over.

Take care



So many intense episodes & intense discussions... Need a break to think clearly...

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