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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

Samin congratulations for being Dazzler and Chahlov for 18000+ posts

Sorry ladies clutched in my work but still my wishes are with you.





🤗 Thanks you ARSHI. I love roses. The roses started blooming this week and they are looking well
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: RebeccaDaphne

Samin! Congratulations on becoming a dazzler! 🥳


You are welcome Rebecca
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: DurgaS

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Episode 125 - Episode 129
Farq padta hai
Arnav:
Kar kya rahi ho tum, kya tumne ye jaana nahin?
Tumhare naam ke aage, kisi aur naam ke liye jagah nahin?
Jitna dard mujhe hua hai, tumhe bhi sehna hoga
Tumhe bhi farq padta hai, ye tumko kehna hoga
Mere iss takleef ki keemat, aaj tumhe hai bharna
Main kisi aur ka ho jaaun, ye intezaam tumhe hai karna
Tumhare pasand ki har cheez, jab kisi aur ke haath hai lagta
Kya keh paaogi tum Khushi, tumhe koi farq nahin hai padta?
Nice lines Durga. It was quiet strong as the situations were
Khushi:
Aapki har baat, har nazar se, jaise churi se dil hai kat ta
Sapnon ki duniya achcha hai, asli duniya mein dil hai toot ta
Kabhi aapne hi kaha tha, koi matlab nahin, koi farq nahin hai padta
Phir kis tarah kahen hum, kitna humey farq hai padta?
Agreed Durga- after Diwali and engagement, how could she say that it mattered
Translation:
What are you doing, didn't you know this?
Beside your name, there is no place for any other name?
The amount of pain I've got, you too will have to bear
It matters to you too, you too have to say
For this difficulty of mine, you will have to pay today
I become somebody else's, this arrangement you'll have to do
When everything that you like, is seen in somebody else's hands
Will you be able to say Khushi, that it doesn't matter to you?
Khushi:
Your every word, every look, is like cutting my heart with a knife
The world of dreams is better, in real life the heart breaks
It was you who said once, it doesn't mean anything, doesn't matter
Then how shall I say, how much it matters to me?


👏This one you should probably bookmark Durga. It described in a few words Arnav and Khushi's ego coming into play before their love
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Viv: Brilliant explanation of his love peeling of layers. loved all you said.
After his "shadi ke bina bhi reh sakthe hain" amidst all that chaos and pain that dreadful day.. he could have easily blackmailed her into a Live in but made a point to marry her with sindoor, and mangalsutra, the two most valued possessions of marriage for some one traditional like Khushi.. that wedding was complete..
as indi said Khushi found some one exclusively for herself as he may not have done all this for anyone else!
It is interesting that for some one who is an atheist, doesn't believe in any rituals.. DM sent her own dear child directly into his arms.. to peel off these layers... and to give him love!



horizon,

your last two lines, so interesting. i am sorry, i have to ramble.

my thought... i always felt ipk writers presented a view of faith and ritual that they personally adhered to and that went beyond the manipulation and narrow view of most serials.

a rather contemporary and valid view it was, i felt.

there was a man who said he didn't believe in bhagwan/god and swore he made his own fate, but he had integrity and a deep deep conscience and did his duty without fail... and he got to be loved by the girl who was good and kind and wouldn't budge an inch without her dm. were we being told they were both right in their own ways?

not because of their stated ideas of god, but because they were true. they had a purity, an innocence, a clarity in them that matched perfectly... and maybe god is omnipotent and knows that sometimes we worship with our commitment and our right action, not by ritual and observance.

while i have no problem with him being atheistic or agnostic, i always believed that his conscience was an indication of his connection with the principle of the eternal, it was possible because he did sense the eternal, but in his way, not the way we are used to expressing it. plus he was angry with god for letting his mother die... in episode 4 i think it was, he did say, if there was god, the world wouldn't be so heartless and painful... so it is not the rejection of a rationalist who says what i can't validate by physical evidence i won't accept. it is the reaction of a human being who has been terribly hurt for no reason and a mother who had so much faith has been betrayed and snatched away... and so he decides to depend on no one but himself to carry on with the business of living.

what's more, he is utterly accepting of his family's faith and worship... even khushi's. though, it's true right in the beginning, he reacts to her words and decides to release her pictures to media, saying let's see how your god saves you now. result is of course, khushi lands up in delhi... he had written his own destiny with that action of his 😆 and dm got him to help execute her plans. nice writing there. did you notice there... khsuhi could have walked away after he said: phenk do, and turned and strode off. but no, she seethed and fumed and urged herself to chase after him: sun da jaakar, khushi. ah well... she wrote her own kismet by that one action of hers... so both right in their own way and all are hai re nand kissore's leela.

some day i'd like to hear his feelings about god, and for khushi to understand why... for both of them to evolve in their faith with each other without becoming like each other.

also, it isn't necessary to rush around doing pooja paath to be a good/true human being, it's your intentions, your attitude, your actions that count. asr, with all his monologues, is a self examining character... main kyun aisa hoon, etc. and he was curiously contemporary plus truly liberal.

i will go back to vijay verma in deewar... all those years ago, though we felt his beauty and purity, even innocence, in deewar, the atheist with a live in girl friend finally had to die. we were perhaps not yet ready to accept a stunning character no matter how much we wanted to.

but the time for asr had come... we were willing to be a bit more mature about him... though many people yelled and screamed and said
he is politically utterly incorrect and poor khsuhi, how could he, yet we all watched and rejoiced when they got together.

i see them both as beautiful people. the eternal is in them... they don't have to go looking for that one anywhere. pyaar sabse bada hota hai... because in it there's god.
and every time you live your life (as amma pointed out) with that love; live the day the moment the hour for that love; make your little changes and adjustments because you give a damn and are willing to hear the longings of the other one, all that i guess becomes a form of prayer.

oh, bad me, i wouldn't mind seeing what would have happened if he forced her to live with him without marriage... as long as there's love... i am willing to explore.

Edited by indi52 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: samin6


I loved your analysis Indi and made a rainbow of the lines I liked. I agree he played the meanest trick on earth when he bought the set and gave that to Lavanya and then asked Khushi if he cares. I read all the comments on ismailvegamze of the ARSHI scene to understand what he meant. It took me reading all of them to really understand why he did it and am still confused. I understood it was mean however the rest- of how it would matter to Khushi was confusing.After all let us say Khushi after this told - yes farq padta hain, and the same with his sagai- what would he have done? If Khushi did indeed say it mattered- she was staking her own engagement and her relationship with Raizadas and giving Arnav another nail for her coffin. We are skeptical of what Arnav would do with that nail- throw it away and get her out of the coffin or hammer it hard.



samin, thanks so much for liking, enjoying, rainbowing. by the way, i adored your anniverasry gana wala post and have copmmented, please do see when you can.

he was mean because he was hurt and that porcupine mentality of his was chucking quills at the perpetrator of the crime... her crime... she rattled the h out of him.

he wanted her badly but no!!! how could that be, asr ko kissi ladki sa, etc...

what would he have done if she'd said, haan faraq padta hai?

no idea, the man is utterly unpredictable and weirdly smart. i have a feeling he'd have first looked smug and satisfied that he'd "won." then gone into some sort of crazy convolution in his head wondering what to do. he might have heard his own dhak dhalk too at this point... but everything was too confounding at this point. they are both engaged to other people, a mess... he'd have felt awful about lavanya... but i have a feeling he'd have found a way into gussa and raved and ranted anyway... and yet wanted her so so much.

khushi... a girl rather strong. look at how she talks to dm about her feelings, not going into it... she knows it's too late... so once the engagement is done, she'll feel better. a lovely conversation there. i like her solution seeking nature. she'd have found some way to deal with his mad response too. just as she is doing now.

and anyway, the man of dimaag wasn't even thinking when he was pulling that mean trick. his dil ached and he just wanted to give her hell for not caring... or saying she doesn't.

confused, convoluted, intense, adorable. tee hee. me phangurrling asr.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha




Shyam is one of a kind Scorpion and day by day his beauty is coming out as a shining star till Khushi's SLAP like this




ArshiH 😃...i loved the elena slap...its from the finale...she slaps him cuz he choses to die than take the cure😳!!!!!

can i knw wher you found it ?

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Posted: 12 years ago
@supi

over here😆 I just typed slapping gifs and this came up


Arshi
Edited by ArshiHamesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

@samin

"utna bhi bure nahin hai 'par tum aur tumhara fianc afford nahin kar pao gey 'mein tumhain khareed keh de daita hoon..apne finace se kehna Arnav Singh Raizada ne engagement present Diya hai'.Gift nahin tou tip samjh keh Rakh lo"

Translation: not bad but you and your finace will not be able to afford it.So what the hell I buy it for you tell your fianc ASR bought it as an engagement gift'or you can keep it as a tip'..

These lines sting. I do not understand the significance of him saying gift nehi to tip samajh ke rakhlo. Except maybe as once someone explained to me is because he thought of Khushi as an employee and people give a gift to a people they appreciate and tip is for some worked who is not employed by them but still is serving them who is very low compared to them and is working for a tip.

Samin you can see these with different angles'..all are my POV no offense to any one

1-He is gift for her just like he said mein ne tumhari pasand ks haar.meaning I am giving myself to La I hope it doesn't matter to you'.over here gift nahin tou tip meaning [if I connect to that] is If you don't accept me then very nasty way calling her very low to accept him in other way as it doesn't matter to you as he is still calling her a gold digger for revenge and he admits later "mujhe khabi pata hi nahin chalta'.he doesn't think when he is angry so what ever he said there is no meaning.

2- He wants to buy her jewelry ,dresses what ever her wish is but as she refused him "humain koi fadak nahin padta" he is making her feel so low that what is she missing for not accepting him which obviously has no meaning for her as she is happy in small things but he doesn't know for sure yet

3- He knows she is "bechain" so if he will buy something for instance if she takes it then it will remind her of him as she is not happy with her engagement and she will blurt what he wants to hear but again he is not fully aware of her as she is happy with channa,gol gappas but one day he will buy all these to vow her.

Nice one ARSHI. This two episodes were extremely powerpacked. So each time I see them in these episodes I go into a depression mode on top had PTSD visions of these episodes afterwords, no wonder could not see them separate because them separate was too devastating for all.


Thnx samin ,I know it took me a while to finish these as I was busy and tired and then these heavy epis ,I always cry when I watch these.You are right Khushi was stunning and we didn't see her in these nice clothing later.

Your post response

I think that is also the popular thinking. I was just wondering why he is being so ASR like in them. And then we know Khushi loves him more like ASR. So the more ASR like he is the more she loves him. So she went and told him " Aapka aas paas ke log apse kitna pyaar karte hain aapko bilkul andaza nehi hain na." It meant she loved him a lot which she just told him in Khushi way of snapping. The same she answered that I know my love does not make any difference.


Nice angle samin .Yes she did and that's why he apologizes to her later.Yes Arnav's health and his absence is bugging me up these days.There is something making me "bechain".

Edited by ArshiHamesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: supriya.arshi


Thnx Supi for such a beautiful review as always...I'm glad you liked certain lines very much.He says things in anger which have no meaning at all as "mujhe khabi pata hi nahin chalta..."Mein bas aisa hi hoon"

Supi for calling Akash "baby" ,he is indeed younger one but I can see what you are saying.Me and samin was not calling him in that sense.He has no back bone ,yes but after marriage ,after sometimes lets say 6-8 months ,you start exploring each other and then communication tool is very important to make other understand your POV and listening is a part of it.This is not a honka dori thing and love does not mean which we fantasize all the time ,its a life time commitment .He and Payal did not explore pain the way Khushi and Arnav did.They both had parents and life has different meanings and angles for them.Arnav and Khushi has life time experience at early age.Akash is like a Ladla ,so he is one of those men who always with you but not in front of the world,inside the room and he was with her inside the room where he makes her feel his importance.Deep experience of life which comes like amma said "zindagi jeene keh baad hi inn sanwalon ka jawab milta hai"

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha



Thnx Supi for such a beautiful review as always...I'm glad you liked certain lines very much.He says things in anger which have no meaning at all as "mujhe khabi pata hi nahin chalta..."Mein bas aisa hi hoon"

Supi for calling Akash "baby" ,he is indeed younger one but I can see what you are saying.Me and samin was not calling him in that sense.He has no back bone ,yes but after marriage ,after sometimes lets say 6-8 months ,you start exploring each other and then communication tool is very important to make other understand your POV and listening is a part of it.This is not a honka dori thing and love does not mean which we fantasize all the time ,its a life time commitment .He and Payal did not explore pain the way Khushi and Arnav did.They both had parents and life has different meanings and angles for them.Arnav and Khushi has life time experience at early age.Akash is like a Ladla ,so he is one of those men who always with you but not in front of the world,inside the room and he was with her inside the room where he makes her feel his importance.Deep experience of life which comes like amma said "zindagi jeene keh baad hi inn sanwalon ka jawab milta hai"



ArshiH...i get wat you r sayin...but my point is watever Akash said or is doin now to woo Payal...he din keep it up after marriage...(i agree their life is completely diff from Arnav-Khushi)
m just sayin Payal deserved better!!!



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