Blast from the Past Thread #12, pg 63, epi 139 - Page 63

Originally posted by: indi52

hi ami,

from what i heard, he was not the first choice for asr nor sanaya for khushi. ksg apparently was a favourite... barun did the screen test, ksg couldn't make it, barun was cast. now inside stories i have never known of anything, but i get the feeling that is why all this talk i heard from some of how lalit m "made" him, etc. and i have heard lalit m himself say i the early days, that what was good about barun were his eyes. intense. not a word on his skills as an actor or anything else.

and though yes, barun also says he is a lot like the sweet easygoing shravan of bhph, something tells me, there's an asr in him too. we are more complex than we think we are, and if he didn't have any of the richness of the inner self that is needed to portray characters so different (though similar in certain ways), no amount of directing could have got it out of him.

for thinking of an asr like character i give gul full respect, but not really for casting barun... even more troubling is her lack of understanding of a hard working actor's calibre and aspirations, her completely unprofessional behaviour over the last days of ipk.

they are lucky they got barun... and i will defend that statement no matter how biased i may be called. in fact, barun had a pretty large fan following after bhph (early fan pages in this very forum makes it quite clear) . i wasn't one of them, because i think the story was not well written and so didn't hold me there, yet right from swayam days i knew, there was something about the boy. not being a serial watcher i didn't wait for bhph, but if it was on while i surfed, i stopped and watched. now when i see, i notice him adding things to a pretty flat character. and we know what he did when the writers gave him something more to work with.

asr challenged barun. i don't think shravan did really, so i am super happy asr happened to him. he has grown as an actor thanks to it.

interestingly, his director for bhph speaks of the first time he saw barun and how he was most concerned... would a boy with that sort of voice be able to be the hero? ha ha, his voice was a problem... so were certain angles if you ask me... he can very easily look a bit effeminate (can work wonders to get him interesting roles), yes i said that... bhph has many such shots. yet, that voice became one of indelible effect, and his looks... from sweet boy to hard cold all man is there anything he can't do? a bit of a demon in him too.

gah, i miss him.

Originally posted by: indi52

^^^ arshi, hi, 😃

agreed, shraddha had no story, or traction, and wrapped up pretty fast... but as you note, even in his first show, despite all the signs of a newcomer, you could feel the potential and range... there's a scene at a temple where she is 100 per cent trust and he is feeling a strange remorse... it says where he can take interpretation. and without any fuss, he plays a mean, young man, devoted to a scheming brother... he can make you hate swayam, and then flip the character and pull in his positive side without any effort... there's something in that too.

and there's no doubt whatsoever about his "something about you" despite bad clothes and grooming. bhph's shravan was loved by many, but i do suspect it's because barun made him so... the writing was, well, just there.

i am missing him terribly too.

Originally posted by: Katelyn

Wow, awesome discussions, Blasters!! 👏 Yeah that guy from QH was the first choice! And Barun did do a screen test. They were lucky to have him!

Here's a video of the screen test! I'm sure some of you may have seen it before!!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqACjsrlveE[/YOUTUBE]

credit to 4 Lions Films

Originally posted by: IssPKaur

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 126

and once the storm is over, you won't remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive, you won't even be sure, whether the storm is really over, but one thing is certain. when you come out of the storm you won't be the same person who walked in. that's what this storm's all about."
~~~~ haruki murakami ~~~~👏👏👏 So true it seems a dream ,trust me

jo tum mehsoos karti ho... jo main mehsoos karta hoon, humari dhadkane ek ho jaati hai. they feel things together... heart beats racing, storms rising... and the emotions are so stirring, they reverberate long after the screen has gone black.

He feels every pain of her which waves through her tiny body and comes and haunt this dude
there was a storm, a tempest, in the episode.

and a mehsoos. a feeling, a synchrony of feelings really.

there was the rising gale and thunder of the hour, at the same time an array of reflections, equal and opposites: in visual sequences, in dialogues that kept on building that sense of what he feels is what she feels and vice versa.

with "yeh humari sagai ki angoothi hai," in 124, a hot desert wind seemed to blow in from far away and spiraled into a wild frenzy throwing all in turmoil. a tempest on the ocean, the waters restless, turning, tossing, pitching, rolling, heaving in terrifying waves, crashing on the shore. the shore reflecting the same unrest, shaken, torn, untethered, asunder. 👏👏👏

They both have "sansain ruk jayengi " moments but the self created guards are stopping him to pursue and has created all of this mess in which he is making her life miserable too and then ,when she feels his closeness he gives her all the reasons to baffle about her own entangled thoughts and his pull which is making her feel something but she has no clue about it...he is complicated ,too much to handle for both of em as he doesn't understand himself either and that's why in 130 she made him realize to snap

"aur ant mein rajkumar aa jata tha..." and in the end, the prince would come... the sisters sat laughing a bit, yet both lost in private sadness about childhood dreams of rajkumar and happily ever after.

a dormant unrest in the air... then it reached khushi's eyes, she tried to deny that fantasy.
poor simple girl with simple fantasy thoughts ,these disney lands fairies aren't available in real life...

"dashte tanhahi mein eh jane jahan larzan hai

teri awaz ke saye ..tere honton ke sarab..."

Iqbal Bano's ghazal is coming in my head by looking at these two with their yearnings for each other

"hume bachpan mein aisi sari kahaniya sach kaise lagti thi, jiji... asli duniya mein sapno ke rajkumar kahan hote hain." why did we believe these stories were true, jiji... in the real world, where are such princes?

and yet the connection had been made. the word "rajkumar" had triggered a face, a man, a man shaking her and yelling at her... how can you be engaged, why don't i know...

a princess had chosen her prince... as if in a swayamvar, the ancient hindu ritual... no matter how many princes good or bad want your hand, you are free to choose the one you want, with just the adorning of a garland. in this case a garland of insults and angry words. from him to her and her to him, in private, only to and for each other.

What goes in between them remains in between them and the moment comes to stand for each other in front of the world ,yes mein hoon na from both sides..isn't that amazing and strange relation they have
she has chosen her rajkumar, and it is not the man who gave her a ring.

"asli duniya mein sapno ke rajkumar kahan hote hai..."
What a powerful dialogue ,delivers her heart stance so clearly
and the gust of wind rose to remind her... but this was no ordinary wind, it carried that storm in it... she recalled him grabbing her, beside himself with gussa...

"yahan pe toh rajkumar gussel insaan hote hain..." here the rajkumar is an angry man. "jinke naak pe har waqt gussa rehta hai..." on whose nose there's always temper (a clumsy literal translation, sorry). she hadn't read a letter from a mother... yet she knew the exact description. two women who understood him instinctively perjhaps.👏👏👏 INDEED khushi had not yet worked out the math entirely, balancing the gussa was the ability to love really big... but something in her seemed to have started getting the hints already. otherwise why would she want him as rajkumar?

a lovely sequence where two sisters talk of their princes charming and the troubles of reaching happily ever after. and in classic ipk cool, delicate writing, neither knows who the other is speaking of. are you talking of shyam ji? no. and you? about abhishek ji?
running after mirage kind a thing and then hiding by lying
camera moved and found the reflection scene.

two siblings again in a deep discussion. asr stands staring out of his room, while his sister gets some work done talking about an "alag si bechaini" she's seen in khushi. he is in pretty much the same state as khushi emotionally... storm tossed, bechain (literally: without peace... restless). his mind grapples with the situation, and just as she had hit on the fact that he is her rajkumar, he picks on a central truth... she does not care for her fiance, perhaps he even senses she cares for him.

silently, he listened... little eye movements, understated music, then the cut and thrust of riving violin strings. and words came pouring out of him, unguarded, uncontrolled... diwali night and again now... loss of control.
Indi you and your music instincts ,way to go yes it was adding his intensity of thoughts about her👏👏👏
"bechain hai... khush nahin toh shadi kyun kar rahi hai... aisa faisla liya hi kyun jisse baad mein pachhtana pade... khush nahin hai toh sagai kyun ki.. kisne kaha tha haan kahne ke liye... kissine zabardasti ki thi kya... jisse pyaar nahin karti jisske saath reh nahin sakti, usske saath poori zindagi kaise bitaygi?"

restless she is... if she's not happy why is she marrying... why take a decision you'll regret later... not happy, then why did she get engaged... who told her to say, yes... no one forced her... how will she spend her whole life with a man she doesn't love?

that wasn't all. he went on to:

"aur main..." and i...
Above dialogues are describing his state which he is saying for her but actually defining himself
then he noticed di's face and stopped. what would he have said otherwise... and i... how will i spend my whole life without her? would he have said that?

di is shocked at this tirade... a very odd response. she hasn't seen the sadness, the hopelessness on his face. the voice... and this is the boy whose voice was considered a problem at one time, is indescribably real... he was lost in another world, where his mind was in a whirl.

he realised what he'd been saying...

"chhotey..." as di tried to comfort him, ask what's the matter, he cut in... a little shallow his breathing, a strained look around his nose and lips, he just looked away, separated himself from everything, everyoone, back in his shell, needing protection, he said,
This shell is the main cause root of all the hasty decisions he makes
"di, i'm fine... bas kuch der ke liye mujhe akela chhordo." di, i'm fine, just leave me alone for a while.

a wild wind entered frame. he heard his own words echoing... she will marry one she doesn't love... how does he know that? he can feel her... mehsoos, this is about knowing a person viscerally without having to think or even feel, pure instinct.👏👏👏

"there is peace even in the storm."
~~~~ vincent van gogh ~~~~

she stood in her verandah, he in his den. the storm came out in the open and showed itself. turbulence within, howling winds and thunderclap without. classic reflections again. her fiance talked to her, his fiance rambled behind him, but they were both in their own world. each thinking only of the other... with each other.
They both hav storm inside hiding from this world bigger than outside ones
shyam had the temerity to hold her hand and slip on a bracelet... she was too perturbed to say anything... that cutting of his hand, the roil and agony in him since her angoothi words. she could feel it all... nothing else.

flash back: ''kya hua sab toh tunhare shaadi ke baat se bahut khush lag rahe hain... lekin tum?" what happened, everyone is so happy about your wedding... but you?

shyam is talking away, but it's as though she can't see or hear him, a beautifully executed scene, rich and fascinating in subtext... he talks of date cancelling... and there's clap of thunder. ambient sound segues to a voice in her head, she hears, "tumhari sagai ho gayee... kaise... mujhe faraq padta hai dammit kyunki...!"

Love this scene and you described it wat too good.How badly they wanna be together in each other's proximity but how diffusing it just amazing and Barun and Sanaya doesn't seem as they are acting ,feels so real to me...

AMAZING EDIT INDI⭐️⭐️⭐️

and again camera looks for the other side of this picture... there it is. he stands looking out of the windows by the pool as la paces right behind looking for ideas for a honeymoon. he is hearing khushi's words,"aap yeh angoothi nahi pehna sakte... yeh humari sagai ki angoothi hai... aap kya kah rahe hain humey samajh nahi aa raha..." a vulnerability in the voice, yet it seems to hurt him with its implications.👏👏👏

la notices he is far far away. winds race and howl, an omen in them, a feeling of all hell breaking loose. just in the tightly packed pain in his eyes is the message of a world ending.

the next morning, in the hallway a tense meeting... he wants to know what makes her bechain... he is concerned, hates to see her upset.

there's talk of the bracelet given to her by her fiance, of course he overhears and is irritated.
uhhh...he can't see his girl having or wearing other man's cheap stuff
she hears shyam's voice on the phone and is curious about its familiar ring... who could it be? anjali wonders why khsuhi is sad... khushi avoids the question.

and then out of nowhere a face off with asr. the bracelet falls off her wrist, wonder why everything shyam gives just drops off here and there... a neat cuing of no sense of belonging, no right, no place in her life.👏

"apni mangetar se kehna agli baar tumhe itna sasta gift na de," tell your fiance not to give you such a cheap gift next time, he says offensively. offense by the way is sometimes the best defence.

some insults are traded as always... that choosing of each other with a very special garland made of barbs and thorns. 🤣
Always that's what they are with us and we can't let go of em
"itna yakin hai toh nakhush kyuin lag rahi ho..." if you have such faith in him, why are you looking unhappy? i had the feeling, her downcast face is bothering him, he ants to hurt her a bit but also make her feel better... the classic push me pull you in him in all matters khushi.
Always and that's how they show each other love
"humari baat choriye, mr raizada... par aapka bank balance to achha hai toh aap itna pareshan kyun lagte hain?" let's not talk of me, she retorts sharply, fed up with his nastiness, your bank balance is good so why are you so het up?

ask yourself... "ki aap itne nakhush kyun hain." why you are so unhappy.

and finally, she plays back to him a line he'd said just the evening before. one that had hurt her. how could it not hurt him.

As you sow so shall you reap.Mini ASR is putting Mighty ASR in dilemma...

"aur rahi humari baat, hum aapko batade ki hum bahut khush hain..." and as for me, let me tell you, i am very happy.

he was concerned, but her sassiness enraged him... her naak pe gussa rajkumar. and for that claim of being happy, he wanted to hit out at her. happy? without him in her life? how could she? who did she think she was?

he starts a gritted teeth barrage, but it must be curtailed.

How could she do that to him,after he is mighty ASR and he is always right
had it come out maybe the next hurricane could have been avoided... but in this scenario, nothing to break it... and so his decision to have his engagement ceremony the very next day.

before leaving a stymied audience and tears and worry and tension all around, he stops before his antagoniser, his opponent, his everything, and gives her a long hard look... let's check out who is more "khush."

arnav singh raizada is out to ride this storm and win. not a thought in his head for anyone else... pain has transformed to anger... someone must pay.

He is ready to make her pay and big time

a storm song dedicated to the two... girl you gotta love your man... take him by the hand... make him understand.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=SG&hl=en-GB&v=rYE1S6r3bkg[/YOUTUBE]

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani

^^^aahhh, coming to Blast and reading praises of my man isbeautiful music to my ears. Thanks Arshi and Indi 😃

You guys are making me with i saw all of his earlier works, at some pt i want to ...but after ASR feels weird to see in in other avatars before he became so good. but would love to look for those traits that Indi spotted in those earlier ones.

ok quickly dropping in. thanks for the lovely chat above :)