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Posted: 12 years ago
Hi blasters thanks for your comments on my analysis of episode 125-126
@ Indi
the five stages of encountering death and elizabeth kubler-ross. you taught me something new today, samin. thanks for that. i really enjoyed what you saw in these episodes, the classic stages of going through loss. there was a feeling of death in the air, of saansey ruk jana. very insightful take. 👏 👏 👏


and tum bin jaaoon kaha... my heartthrob actor and a beautiful song, loads of memories. thanks.
Indi that is also one of my most favorite songs. I could never decide which part I loved the one sang by Rafi saheb or by Kishore Ji. However the lyrics and background score is also fabulous. I thinks this was a timeless love song. Whoever once fell in love must at least listen to this one and in bengali- Ei raat tomar amar and in English Hello is it me you are looking for

@ viv
I am glad I came across indi's comments for your take on 125 & 126. Wow such an insightful correlation of the epis to each successive stage of death! It gave me goosebumps. Loved the connecting dots in the acceptance part one of the most touching and beautifully created scenes. Hats off to the makers and hats off to you. Indeed this thread is an ocean of free creative literature as were crooner and redux.
You are very welcome viv and thanks for the nice words

@ Horizon
Samin: stupendous analysis! 👏👏
This week of episodes are the most depressing perhaps in the entire span. All the words spoken by ASR right from what he said to La after the cut to his palm "jo dikhtha nahin uska matlab ye nahin ki won hai nahin" were so very profound and were double edged. There was so much of depressed psychology involved, some times I almost wondered if these episodes were written by psychologists and psychiatrists as they were as intriguing. Kudos to IPK team and to you for highlighting Elizabeth Ross's analysis here!
Thanks Horizon and I thought I was the only one. I think those who wrote IPK had at least very solid medical knowledge.

@ Cynthia
Samin just loved how you wrote this piece just brilliant! BTW I took a class in my senior year in high school Thanatopsis:On Death and Dying by Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross best class I have ever taken and it has helped me in my own life experiences. You are welcome cynthia.I am not very good with psychiatrist stages but this one was really interesting and the fact is the stages can cycle along.
@ Supriya
samin...this is amazing points nd very well depicted scenes on Arshi ⭐️👏👏 Thanks Supriya
@Arshi
SAMIN HE WAS ANGRY WITH HIS MOTHER AS HE WAS CUTTING HIS FLOWER [MY POV] JUST LIKE A CHILD WHY IS SHE DOING TO HIM .HE JUST MADE UP WITH KHUSHI A NIGHT BEFORE UNDER THE STARS AND NOW THIS AND TOTALLY AGREED WITH YOU HE WAS DIVERTING HIS ATTENTION JUST LIKE HER BY KEEPING THEIR EGO GUARDS UPTHAT ONE SENTENCE IS ENOUGH FOR KHUSHI AND SHE GOT IT OR IN OTHER WORDS SHE KNOWS IT BUT DID U NOTICE HOW HE WAS MEASURING HER FADAK PADTA DURING La'S BANDAGING HIM ,HE HAS SOME KIND A RELIEF BY FINDING THIS AS THIS MATTERS TO HER ,HIS PROXIMITY WITH La DOES EFFECT HER AND HE CARRIES IT MORE SO HER OWN WORDS CAN EAT HER AND SHE CAN SNAP.BUT AS WE KNOW ASR AND RITUALS HAVE NO MEANING SO THAT RING AND La AS ALWAYS SAID IS JUST A DECOY TO REACH TO KHUSHI AND HE WILL SNAP OUT OF IT ONE DAY ,POOR LaO TRUE I WROTE THE SAME THOUGHT KHUSHI ALWAYS DISCONNECTS HERSELF WHEN SHE IS ANGRY JUST LIKE AFTER CONTRACT MARRIAGE SHE STOPS TALKING TO DM AS YOU SAID AND THAT WAS THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE AS DM IS NOT ONLY HER FRIEND BUT ALSO HER DRIVING FORCE FOR COURAGE.SHE ALSO TELLS MAHA DEV AAP DM KO MAT BATAYE GA...WHEN THEY ALL GO TO MANDIT WITH BUBBLY DURING KIDNAPPINGHER TRUTH IS A FACT OF LIFE AND HIS WAS JUST BLUFFING TO MAKE HIMSELF OK WITH THAT THOUGHT AND MORE YOU CAN SAY MAKE HER AGREE THAT IT DOES MATTER.

SHE ALWAYS A FILMY AND DREAMY BUT WHEN COMES TO FACE THE REALITY SHE IS STRONGER THAN ANYONE BUT SHE UNINTENTIONALLY HAS SET HIM AS HER PRINCE CHARMING AND WANTS HIM TO BE NICE JUST LIKE IN HER DREAM SHE WANTS HIM TO GIVE HER RESPECT AND HONOR BACK WHILE FANTASIZING THE PEARL NECKLACE AND HE KNEW TELEPATHICALLY AND HE RETURNED HER WHICH HE TOOK FROM SHEESH MAHAL

SHE NEVER THOUGHT OF ANY ONE ELSE EXCEPT HIM AND WHEN HE LEFT HER SHE WAS DEVASTATED AS "AAPKE JANE

KEH BAAD AAPUQA TO DO" SHE WAS PLUNGING HERSELF INTO THIS AND SHE DID DIVE IN TO SAVE HIM AS SHE TELLS SHYAM"HUM NE YEH SAB ARNAJI KEH LIYEH KIYA ..JIN SE HUM BOHAT PAYAR KARTE HAIN'BOTH JUST RAMBLING HERE TO TEST EACYES HER FIRST REALIZATION BUT HE IS THE ONE WHO PUT HER THERE BY SHOVING HER ASIDE ANNOUNCING HIS WEDDING WITH La."shaadi kar rahe hain"samin⭐️⭐️👏 brilliant post .so many angles to see these things and their pain.My comments are in red

Love love love this song and movie .Thnx for sharing
Thanks for your comments and yes as I said this is one of my most favorite songs. The movie had very melodious songs.



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan

Hi friends... I have successfully learnt to make a VM...
Desperately want to share it with u all guys...


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hik2hJSfHuc[/YOUTUBE]

Well done AD.
I had never heard this song before either.
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Posted: 12 years ago
@Horizon

Thnx for reading and commenting.So sweet of you

As I said to Ami, I DON'T think he called out her "Khushi" in his room, in his rage and pain with his voice numbed he is oblivious to what he is doing NOT doing

I think that was his inner voice yet could be camera trick.

Arshi, I wondered sometimes, if Shyam deserved a second chance if he were to truly turn around just for the sake of Anjali's blind love/ trust for him!

I don't think so as once trust in this relation breaks ,hard to build back,and he killed her child as a mother no way

Arshi, great connecting dots. These episodes numb me so much that nothing occurs beyond that immense pain visible in both. Khushi was the embodiment of maturity I always wanted to see in her. You are so right in the last para, that he wanted her to snap back so much to get it all out. He can never bear her silence but would be happy to fight out wit her. His meanness to her in post that shocking news though painful yet was understandable. She looks so much in pain when he refuses her to touch his hand after his cut. How both of them felt that a right! On another note, no one recalls all this "Shyamji"'s phone calls and his supposed dates with Khushi post revelation! Strange!

I now even Anjali did not remember,that was the weak story line



Arshi, I guess DABH is still #1 in TRPs. IF is a different case. But QH occasionally has the melodrama that TRP viewers like. But for an IPK fan its hard to watch it as it painfully reminds of the gross injustice meted out to our show and leads. Will justice ever prevail!!!


I know that is very disturbing for me or may be living abroad has changed our minds completely and we think and act differently.Why the heck IPK was so popular outside India and nothing over there.What's wrong with ppl or may be its just old generation watch TV and all the new is on Lappy.IDK I am away like for 15 some years ince last visit

Edited by ArshiHamesha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52



🤣 🤣 🤣 ramayan. ahh, poor ram, think he can sway us at all?

ipk is a spiritual journey for me. call us deep, splendid, wise. when you can feel as intensely as we do while watching, and pour it into words within and and without, it reaches the spirit, believe me. that is the first hurdle crossed, for our daily lives these days manages to stay far away from that within of ours. ipk takes me there every time. conventionally accepted spirit stuff may or may not.

he was no ram and she no sita (though channel/ph tried to push her into a mould and managed to destroy her quite a bit, but the first impression is the last impression, khushi is still on a scooter in my head, with lehnga, sneakers, mad determination, looking up at the sky where a helicopter whirrs by), but they were real and dared to live this life, love without limit... i need season 2. maybe go to supreme court and petition... my spiritual rights are being denied... 😆


@Horizon
Jumping in. surely, the heavenly upliftment we get from watching IPK is all spirituality!:)

There are more vrats / poojas/ fasts in IPK than all the politics of Ramayana. And, as Ravana's weakness for Sita separated Rama and Sita, so were ASR - Khushi during the other way around kidnap. Rama sent Sita to Vanvaas as he was being a responsible king abiding his people although his love for Sita was unquestionable! ASR did the same while performing his "brotherly" duties!!! Oh yes, I can very well see Rama in ASR... and Ramayana in IPK!

@Indi, 🤣 i'll join you in that court, till i came across this thread, i never wanted season 2 as don't think Barun would come back. Now i would so love it b/c i feel there is so much potential...and if the content is good, we can convince hotwa to come back...we'll do weekly shows though so they don't tire him out. and mmmuwaaas for all you said about why this is also spiritual for you, i was goind yes yes and YES!!

@Horizon, major muuwwaaas for you drawing comparisons b/w the two. never thought about it that way, but just loving it!! who knew?? ASR may not be "ideal man" that Ram tries to lead by example, but he sure was a man with his own rights and wrong and never strayed...more like Rams next avatar Krishna who advised cheating during the war b/c it was the only way dharma would prevail of adharma...

Thanks ladies for this talk, 🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara


Episode-129

Khushi is trying hard to be reticent with him, but Arnav is not sparing any chance to test Khushi's farq. He first gave Khushi's chosen necklace to La and now going to shop with the ladies.When Anjali asked him, is he going or not, he didn't say anything. Anjali new he wouldn't go. But how Arnav can miss the chance to add salt in the wound of Khushi.. He looks at khushi and tells Anjali that he obviously wants to go. He is taking every move thinking about Khushi, only to rankle her, provoke her and vex her. Anjali gets surprised to see his enthusiasm in his wedding preparation. But nobody knows, his intention is not to participate in the engagement shopping, but to make Khushi realise the farq, what he makes in her life. La is floating in cloud-9 hugging Arnav every now and then. yeah hug as much as possible, cause you gonna be out of his life pretty soon. Arnav's love is Khushi, how long he will stay aloof from her?

When they entered the shop Khushi's dupatta gets stuck in the front door. Khushi's dupatta always plays significant role in her relationship with Arnav. 😃May be her dupatta doesn't want her to go inside, cause that lifeless object might knew already that more grief is waiting ahead for her in the shop. Arnav stares at her, Khushi also, but he leaves giving her a derisive look. They are constantly talking each other with their eyes.

God is gradually showing proofs of Shyam's deception to Anjali. I wish if Anjali could use a little more brain to think. Anjali meets Motilaal, the owner of the jewelry store from where Shyam bought the ring. When he asked Anjali whether she liked the ring what shyam got from their shop, Anjali gets flummoxed to hear about it. He described the design of the ring what is exactly like Khushi's ring what she found in RM. She remembered, how Shyam denied about the ring. Though she lied Motilaalji that she liked the ring, but she actually gets precarious thinking about it. Khushi beckons her by waving her hand, reminding us about the ring. It's good Motilaal planted the seed of suspicion in her mind.

La is shopping in full excitement, Khushi is following them perfunctorily, Arnav is doing nothing playing with his phone and stealing glances at Khushi. He can't contemplate at Khushi nonstop, so he is playing with his phone in between. Anjali is still pensive thinking about the ring. Nani calls her to let her know that the caterer suppose to come, so she needs to come back home. When Khushi hears that Anjali needs to go home, she wishes to go instead. She wants to evade from Arnav's intent gaze. But Anjali refutes and leaves.

La wants Khushi to try outfits with her. But Khushi refuses, "why me?" "you are also getting married!" La makes Khushi wear a beautiful red lehenga and opens her long tress as well. Khushi is hesitating and wants to wear her cloth. But La is adamant, "Don't act so pricey, just go outside and see yourself in a large mirror under the light." She pushes her out. Khushi is feeling awkward.

The wind blows, romantic soft tune of rabba vey starts to play in the BG, Khushi is looking beautiful, who else can be around rather than her prince charming. Arnav gets lost in her beauty, oblivious of everything. 🥱😃The resplendent beauty just takes his breath away.How can he control his desire to see her now? Khushi also gets disquiet, sees him starring at her. She is fidgeting, feeling uncomfortable under his yearning gaze. Arnav's predatory stance, his eyes roving all over her, a magnetic pull makes him walks towards her. She is squirming, trying to cover herself with her dupatta. I have to quote the line of jadu hai here, "dekhte hai jis tarah se tere nazre mujhe mei khud ko chupao kaha (Where can I hide myself, how do you look at me)." When he reached near her, his one hand involuntarily lifts up to touch her.😳Can we blame him. Khushi looked really beautiful in that lehenga. I mean I would say she never had in the whole course of IPKKND looked as pretty as she did in that red lehenga. I really hoped to see her once more at least in that lehenga. They made her wear the same suit so many times- hope they had done it with that red lehenga too. On top the lightening just increased her aura. What he wanted to touch, her beautiful face or her errant tendrils? When Khushi steps back in embroilment he comes back to his trance. He gets his hand down, but holds the price tag of the outfit. It's almost 35000. He comes back to his vengeance mood again, "it's not that bad. but you and your fiance can't afford. what a pity! But I'm in a very good mood today. so what the hell. I'm buying it for you. Tell your fiance that Arnav Singh Raizada presented you as an engagement gift. After all you did so much for me and Lavanya. So not a gift but take it as a tip." 😭Have huge difficulty understanding the significance of that sentence.His poignant words convulses Khushi. All her pent up emotions spills out in an incoherent manner and her voice quivers as tears to rise in her throat. She emulates sternly, "Don't want it, but thanks for asking. And you are right, it's not that bad, but not that khas (special) also.I didn't like it."😭Sorry Arnav bitwa Khushi is not for sale Arnav's face gets taut, he intends to say something, but his phone call interrupts him. When he moves away to answer the call, the silent tear what were bulging inside her chest start to come out involuntarily.

Khushi became forlorn, She can't act stoic any more, her heart is piercing with Arnav's afflictive words, "you and your fiance can't afford it." she sits and sees the price tag. The brutal truth strikes her. Arnav reminded her again her status, her aukat, her disability to buy classy stuffs. La is trying dresses after dresses, she is talking to Khushi from the fitting room, "you know chamkili I remain in dream world nowadays. All the time my heart beats so fast." poor La her dream world will ruin soon.! Arnav comes inside and sees khushi from a distance. Holding the price tag Khushi recollects Arnav's insolent words again, "not a gift but take it as a tip."
"sapno ki duniya mei rehena hai theek hai Lavnyaji, kiyuki asli duniya mein to sref dil toot te hai. (it's good to be in dream world, cause in real world one's heart only breaks)" 😭😭Her tear drops falls on the tag, Arnav notices her anguish, he heard her grievous words also. Now his heart is lurching painfully. his eyes gets red, he lifts his hand to console her, but instead clasps his fist, cause he knows he can't go to her. He shuts his eyes in convulsion. [Pause: "hum jante hai, humari akho ki ek ek asoo aapko dil ko hazar bar rulati hai.( I know every tear drop of mine makes your heart cry thousand times)" khushi said these words to Arnav later in the night of their consummation. Arnav also affirmed her "harbar (everytime)" ] When he realizes that he can't go to comfort her he leaves in haste. Khushi looks up in a jolt, she senses, he was here.😭


Anjali is ambiguous, she is repeating same thing again and again. So mami and nani gets incredulous, "what happened Anjali bitiya, everything is alright?' When mami sees her calling somebody, she understands the cause of her sadness, "so damadji is not receiving the phone. The phone must be in silent, that's why." she tries to console the big baby Anjali. Anjali calls Shyam and finds out that Shyam is not in the office. she is sure that he went to court. He pacifies herself that her husband didn't lie, motilaalji misunderstood something. Nani also looked worried. she asks her again is everything alright or not. Anjali diverts her attention and wishes to continue the work.

In the shop Khushi is helping La to dress. La asks, where ASR has gone.? When her phone rings she tells Khushi to receive it. Khushi sees that it's Arnav's number. She tells La. La again tells her to receive and put it on speaker. Arnav says La that he is leaving, cause he can't stay any more. she doesn't need to think about the payment, he already took care of it." La gets sad.
"it's better to be in dream world, cause heart breaks only in real world" Khushi's words of pain reverberate in Arnav's mind. he perturbs in compunction. he is getting weak. his plan to dilapidate Khushi is going in vain. Her pain, her tears are causing tempest in his heart.😭

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4bhin8uDBng[/YOUTUBE]
credit goes to coldy


Loved your analysis Sohra. My words in green. And the lines I really loved are underlined. Thanks for the VM
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani


🤣 Sohara, not sure how missed this one but that is CLASSIC!! perfect present for Shyaam babua!


Now that scene now is making me remember Khushi putting juice in Arnav's shoes. Our Khushi was more innovative
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

hi everyone,

have added new visuals by chalhov on the main page. please do see, they're lovely.


cynthia, ha ha frustrated and engaged... gorgeous piece. this convoluted man and his equally complex jhalli babe, what madness they have spun... submission to love i guess is always tough and when you are the khadoos, heartless (as he'd like to portray) mr asr, it's near impossible. so we watch hearts feeling each leap each plunge as the romance gets all faraqed up.

ami, hassa toh fassa, yes that breakthrough smile after tea fling, how taht fassaoed him. got to write 75 and my eulogy to that stretching of perfectly dragged down on one side lips. lovely writing and insight in your main page post. thanks. of course, the drools are out to maim and kill much like the hurtful faraq padta hai man.

arshi, you are so right, it always made a difference. but to accept that, almost always went by. i would have waited even longer to watch that come about. how i miss these guys.

durga, without you 12 would have not been ready in time. thanks so much. i didn't read your lines and poem but i knew i needn't. they'd be interesting, fun, happy and different. they were. thanks again for all your help.

supriya, katelyn, chalhov, and doctor, the space comes alive and sparkles thanks to your ever more interesting visuals and edits... and lately katelyn's music. i am listening to iss pyaar kya naam doon on another tab as i type, must say it feels cool.

samin, thanks once more for that most interesting connections piece.

thanks, everyone, for 12. sorry to have been away for a while, hope to be around now on. catching up on reading and writing. what wonderful ipk days.

edit: and dear riddle maker, thanks for that imposs to crack conundrum, brain cells slowly waking up. 😳


You are welcome Indi
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani


lets scream it out and get back at it. today turned out to be a bust too...well shouldn't say that, had a nice day with my dad, but of course takes me away from here. my co-worker is back Mondayalso, so fingers X'ed for mild work load next week. i feel like i'm slacking from a studying for a test or something😆

same here it seems I have too much work load and I can't concentrate on anything.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52


Yes Indi, Baurn said about the holy connection with the show and all ppl associated with it in the Gul khan interview. agreeing will all you said above, i guess i didn't see the downfall till after the remarriage but since the kidnapping things became a bit inconsistent. I think i was still on a high my first watch so enjoyed all of it till after the remarriage, i'm in for disappointments this second time around. and YES indi, why didn't they prepare for a better ending and why on earth did we get a memo "the story has run its course" if they planned to continue with the show???? i remember PH shamelessly asked for story ideas from the fans...even read a few that ppl has selflessly written and sent it...NONE of them included killing off Arnav and were pretty good. there is something very fishy about the whole situation. ok must calm boiling blood. shall be back if i don't fall asleep.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chalhov

Indi Kate thanks for this song link


CONGRATULATIONSON BFTP 12
indi RebeccaDaphne, Horizon, cinthiann1758, , samin6, BarunDiwani, wiwy, Katelyn, , shesherkobita, ArshiHamesha, supriya.arshi, OmaRamdass, sohara, sigrid, Anita Durga Salooni Arshidiehardfan, goofy doctor and anyone I may have forgotten thanks for making this thread a great success, This is indeed one of the jewels in the IPKKND FORUM a place where we get a good read, vms ,pictures songs creations giffs PROMOS episode analysis different takes from a number of members
A CUTE AJEEB PAGAL FILMY LOVABLE CREATIVE HUMOUROUS INFORMATIVE THREAD JUST LIKE OUR CUTE COUPLE ARSHI AND THEIR LOVE/HATE STORY
Arnav Khushi put aside their feelings and form a team go to their 1st date a cute occasion and get their siblings Payash together so that they reveal their feeling and decide to get married. Arnav makes mami agree to the match and both will get engaged soon. Meanwhile Khushi comes to know the truth about Shyam being Anjali's husband 1st goes to tell Arnav realizes she cant tell him and the Koi faraq nahi padta chap gets mighty anxious for Khushi as he does not know the truth. Keeps ringing her up and scolds her for making him go through all the mental tension tries to camouflage his feelings but then is so upset that he mistakenly reveals his anxiety to La talking to her as if to Khushi leading to her guessing about his feelings. So two people getting engaged to wrong partners will be set right lot of cute koochie koo incidents both Arnav Khushi hiding their emotions awww when will they learn Devi Maiyya Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon😃


haaye main kiss tarah se pyaar ka izhaar karoon
jee mein aata hai ke jee bhar ke tujhe pyaar karoon


Thnx Chahlov and lovely post .Love the song addition.Good one.👏👏👏
Lovely collages and indeed
A CUTE AJEEB PAGAL FILMY LOVABLE CREATIVE HUMOUROUS INFORMATIVE THREAD JUST LIKE OUR CUTE COUPLE ARSHI AND THEIR LOVE/HATE STORY

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