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Originally posted by: sohara


Episode-119

The gentle breeze along with the mehsoos triggers his sixth sense. It is premonishing him her presence. But how can she be here! they already capitulated not to face each other again. He brushes away his feelings and barges at HP, "Where is my Singhania file?" He goes to his room, checks his closet, but when he still can't find it he descends down and asks HP for di. He tells him that she is in the kitchen. Poor HP tries to impress his master by giving him the info about lavanya. Hearing la's name Arnav exasperated even more.How poor servant will now he doesn't want to know about La! 😆 😆

when Khushi can't find the oil anywhere in the kitchen she climbs the counter top to get the oil from a higher shelf. Arnav storms in the kitchen, "where is my file?" Khushi jerks hearing his holler. When she turns, she falls and Arnav catches her instantly. He holds her in his arm securely. They lost in each other for some moment forgetting the rest of the world. Isn't she looking just perfect in his arm? (pause: I must say Khushi's body is perfectly molded to fit in Arnav's arm. Never saw any girl look so perfect in a man's arm.) When Arnav remembers their "not to see each other" promise, he comes back to his trance and asks her grimly, "what are you doing here?"
Khushi- woh lanvanyaji
he doesn't let her finish- did i tell you don't show your face again?
Khushi -if you leave me, then I can
He understands that he is still holding her in his arm. Oh my sexy boy, doesn't want to let his girl go! He puts her down smoothly, as if he was enjoying her close proximity. His sensuous touch must shudders Khushi. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
He starts his prosecution- why did you come here?
Khushi also emulates him- see, I also don't have a wish to show you my face.
Arnav starts to lacerate her with his excruciating words- phir bhi yaha mere ghar mein mere samne khadi ho. kal tumne kaha tha na mere ghar mein wapas nahi aogi.ab kya hua? jitne baar tum he yeh ghar se nikalo tum wapas ahi jati ho .
translation: again you are standing here in my house in front of me. you told yesterday that you will not gonna come to my house again? now what happened? how many times I get you out from this house, you returns back.
Khushi intends to talk, but he doesn't let her and start to vex her again- what stupid reason you have now? sometimes La calls, sometimes di. all are lies.
he says with a big grin on his face- you must made some excuse to get in this house again.
Khushi tries to defend her- jab ap jawab sun na nahi chahte hei, tab sawal kiyu karte hai?
translation: if you don't want to listen the answer, then why do you ask question?
He now moves to her, what makes her step back involuntarily. he resumes- don't think that you will get more money from this house.
Khushi gets terribly sad this time- why do you bring money always?
Arnav refutes- cause I know you
He can't finish when Anajli intervenes- Don't talk like this chote. she came here to help us. you should think how other can feel when you talk like this? I always try to make you understand. But you? Let it be. Khushiji agreed to help us in one condition this time that she will not take money in return.
There is a guilt feel is very evident in his face.But Khushi can't look in his eyes. She looks down, may be doesn't want to see her Arnavji's guilty face.
Anjali continues- She is earning money by tutoring the kids.She just came here to help us.Neither she is working for you nor for me.Do you understand?
Good job Anjali. your little brother has become really bettameez. from now on you should scold him more.
Arnav is in compunction now. he is feeling guilty.
Anjali tells khushi to come as La is waiting for her.When Khushi turns to go Arnav calls her- Khushi stop, I need to talk to you. Khushi doesn't let him continue and intends to go again.
Arnav gets infuriated- didn't you hear that I need to talk to you?
Khushi turns- tell, what do you want to say? may be you want to insult me more.
Arnav gets frantic again. he yelps- enough.
He seems in contrition. He tries to meliorate the situation- It happens whenever we talk. So it's better, from now on neither I will talk to you nor you will talk to me.You come here, do whatever you want to do, but don't talk to me.It will be good for both you and me. there will be no question of arguments also.
Khushi also agrees and avows- Alright, you also stay away from me. It will be good for me too.
both are perturbed.
pause: gosh I guffawed at their vows. How many times they promised not to see each other, but never can keep it. I think they make promises to break it.

i solemnly promise not to look at your sexy boy and want him all all all for myself... chalo i have also made a vow. 😆 😆


Khushi bids bye to Anjali and La. La requests her wistfully to come on the next day also. But khushi admonishes. She tells her that Anjali can help her. But La still insists. Anjali is scared that she may not be able to help La as she will be busy. Or if La makes mistakes again nani will be mad at her. Anjali beckons nani. Nani comes to add the drama and scolds La again.
Anjali gets incredulous, if nani denies again to accept La! La also requests Khushi ardently, "plz chamkili, stay with me to boost up my moral support."
Khushi agrees in resentment to come for few more days.

When khushi left La and Anjali exults their victory. they are concocting to refrain khushi till the engagement.

Shyam gets furious to hear that Khushi will keep coming in the house. Anjali tries to make him understand that Arnav agreed o marry La because of her, so all of them wants her to be there on the special day. When shyam still is indignant, Anjali gets upset. Shyam understands that he over reacted. So he tries to meliorate and make Anjali understand that if Khushi keeps come to the house Arnav will get mad and can call off the wedding. Anjali gets sad, "nothing will happen like this." she is precarious," why everybody is so upset with khushiji?" shyam thinks that his drama didn't work, so he needs to find some other way.
pause: Shyam unknowingly told the truth that if Khushi keeps coming in RM arnav may call off the engagement. That surely happened, not because Arnav is mad at khushi but because Arnav's love for Khushi became irresistible.

Khushi is teaching an unruly kid named Barun who is just a shadow of ASR who doesn't apologize to anybody. Like Arnav he also pushed a girl down. Khushi couldn't teach the old kid a lesson, but she teaches the little kid that one will not dwindle less if he says sorry to a person and it's very pleasurable to make others happy. She mutters, "don't be another Arnav singh Raizada when you will grow up. One Laad Governor is enough for this world." Gosh she is always preoccupied with LG's thought, how can she forget him!😳

Shyam wants to talk to khushi. He charges Khushi for going to RM. Khushi tries to defend herself. But he is frustrated. He accuses her that she went there for the sake of money.How dare he! Khushi gets terribly upset with his words, "I'm tired of making people understand that don't measure everything with money. First Laad governor, then you also. I'm going there to help Lavanyaji, cause I'm very much responsible for the marriage." Shyam understands that he did wrong. He apologizes to her and asks her if she is ok or not. Khushi assures him that he doesn't need to be worry for her. she thinks, what she is doing is right. when she left Shyam gets perturbed. he got a phone call from Anjali. So he takes off the ring and ready to conduct for another segment of his deceptive play.

Khushi landed in Arnav's arm in the sheesh mahal, the footage comes on the TV again. no other family member but arnav watches it on the TV. The repercussion takes him to their first encounter in sheesh mahal. The host of the show mocks that, everybody thought she is the girl of his life. Arnav convulsed and intends to turn off the TV. La comes and watches the news and gets excited. She fortunately missed Khsuhi's part and sees the guy is giving the news of her engagement with Arnav. She gets happy that she is marrying ASR and starts to praise Khushi that, she changed her perception about marriage. She thinks everything was possible because of her.When she starts to applaud her ethics and principles, arnav gets infuriated, "enough Lavanya, I'm marrying you, not Khushi's principles." He leaves in exasperation.That news reporter already made arnav irritated, Lavanya's accolade about Khushi made Arnav irascible more.
pause: I wonder, why all of them only watches the funny Kamlesh Kabri's sarcastic jibes!

Khushi is pensive lying beside Payal snuggling the pillow. When Payals starts to talk She pretends to sleep. But her big sis knows she is tensed. so she plays a little prank with her reminiscing their old good times. She tickles her to get her up. Khushi gets jovial and joins her sis also. Payal knows she is upset as buaji fixed her marriage in haste. She suggests her to go with her heart and affirms her that she will support her always. such a caring big sis.I really love this sibling bond.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4CGj1E9gQhE[/YOUTUBE]




hi sohara, long time. 119 was such a fun yet crazy sexy episode... your take like that too. had to jump in a take a vow like your two favourites. by the way, why can't your sexy boy ever keep to his word when it comes to jhalli. why is he so weak. tells me, come ons. 😆

the comment about her fitting perfectly into his arms, one for the books... it's so so true. how comfortably perched she is on our man's (note the our, generous me) arms, leaning against his chest. and how terribly elegantly barun the thin boy lifts and carries her. that's i think the only part that doesn't happen in real life. unless someone here has had experience otherwise.

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Posted: 12 years ago
@Indi
Thanks for reading.
You can freely drool on him. I promised to share him with you. And I'm not like my man, I keep my promise. hahaha, Gosh I'm behaving like a hormonal adolescent in the throes of my first crush. I don't own Barun, he is a public property, anybody can take him in her fantasy, what say.? Kash woh unmarried hote! Then I'll sure take a chance.He spoiled me yaar! now American gore also can't attract me.

Don't you think Sanaya looks just perfect in his arm? Sanaya also is thin, so I guess it was not so difficult for him to carry her. remember the SBS segment after the contract marriage, where Barun was carrying her back and forth? He told the reporter that she is very light.

did you check my reply on your 122 or 123? The episode where he found his mom's bangles. I made a controversial comment about Arnav's mom? I'll appreciate if you share your thought.
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@Anita
thanks for reading and commenting on my 117.
You are right, it's absolutely dil ka connection between Arnav and Khsuhi.

Bua ji got on my nerves...she is happy because everything happened to her wishes...she knows shashi always had doubts about shyam but she just ignored it saying he is an acha insaan

What can I say about Buaji. I was so annoyed and mad at her that can't express in words. You certainly can see my rage in all my posts.

I commented in all your analysis in thread-12
plz do check, when you will get time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
^^^ sohara,

please pass me the link to your 122/3. i don't have them. no question about it, barun is rare. but, even so, your rajkumar will appear one day, as hot as you like em, and with his unique imperfections, all of which you will overlook because he makes you feel a certain way. it happens... believe me. only that carrying around part... alas, never for not too light people like me. but no harm in hoping, what. 😆

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

it was amazing Indi.
all of your thoughts are poignant, significant and insightful.
About Arnav's mom's letter I have to say,Khushi doesn't need the letter, but i still wanted, if she would see it! It's because she wrote it specially for her DIL, it's some kind of divine communication between two most beloved person of Arnav. there are lot of things may be his mom also didn't know about him, but Khushi does.cause when his mom left him he was just a teen ager,not even a complete man. you may contradict with me, but it's completely my POV that his mother actually didn't love her kids that much. she loved herself more than her kids. otherwise she wouldn't commit suicide for her husband's adultery. Or moreover, Arnav's dad was not even proved guilty. Arnav's mom was selfish. how cum a mom can suicide without thinking of her growing children! Not Arnav's dad, but his mom is responsible for his sardonic life.

loved all the bold lines most.
you will see my comments everywhere.


hi sohara,

thank you so much for the comment. you raise a most interesting and important point. the character of maa. could a woman who was strong, conscientious, with a deep faith and a conscience, traces of that conscience evident in her son... could this maa have shot herself in a moment of madness upon discovering her husband was cheating on her... that too on her daughter's wedding day?

my simple answer is, no.

of course, people are complex. and sometimes we do things least expected of us. but still this is a story which is in the hand of its writers... there is no chance of a character doing something just because she/he felt like it... the writer makes the decisions.

so if maa had to be the revered one, the one loved beyond everything by the children, she couldn't have been that selfish. i am a mother... will take a lot to make me behave in that way, even if i felt like it.

i have often asked this question, why suicide? and that too on that day? my instinctive answer is, the story was changed.

everyone was made to think it was suicide... but it wasn't. she was killed. possibly by mistake by his father or by design by his uncle. no idea really. but i am with you... that suicide indicates the kind of person she was never portrayed as.

you know it's clear asr was also supposed to be a harsher character, who offered khushi a live in arrangement... even that was changed... too much fear of audience reaction... too much worrying about trp... in the end complete loss of narrative.

i agree with you, sohara, if maa killed herself really, she was indeed selfish. and if that is the case... someone needs to talk about that too.

about khushi not reading the letter... well she mentions how her rajkumar has naak pe gussa in 126 even without reading... 😆 maybe maa sends her thought messages? kidding. but there is an empathy between him and her, she also seems to get him more than anyone else... instincts sharp when it comes to him. mothers have sharp instincts about us, and those who love us madly. i hope some day she does read the letter though, just to see sohara happpyyy.




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Originally posted by: indi52



the maniacal gardener... don't you just adore him? love your flinging the question right back at this intense, heart hiding man, but i am the fool that wants to protect him all the time, precisely because he is so damn nasty... that always and only says he's going to pieces inside... teehee, maniac fan me. cynthia, i never felt asr really ever figured out exactly why khushi made a difference till that moment of realisation when his sister comes home after the accident and says you shouldn't wait to tell the people you love that you do love them. i do not believe he is such a coward that despite knowing he loves her he will run off to get engaged to another girl. my feeling: he is completely rattled by the phenomenon that is khushi, she who gets under his skin just like that. she makes a heck of a difference but he really doesn't know why...not yet...the word love he has carefully kept away from himself since a young age, believing it to be more of a curse than anything else. he wants her madly and this disturbs him, he wants to just run away from the feeling to "safety" yet try as he might, he can't. a bit of that in khushi too these days. she perhaps has reached the word "love," but he? i seriously doubt it. his behaviour after he reaches that feeling and identifies it, is just the opposite of running away, isn't it? even when he thinks she's deadly vamp who's out to ruin his sister's life, he wants her, he ties her to him, and no matter how hard he tries to hate her, the love just won't let him.

sorry for going on... what difference does it make to me... 😆 loved your short sharp take. missing you these days.


INDI, I JUST WATCHED THE EPISODE WHERE ARNAV HAS DISAPPOINTED DI. SHE THINKS HE LIED ABOUT HIS MEETING IN AGRA AND THEY ALL WALKED IN TO AN INTIMATE SCENE OF A&K. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO TALK WITH HIM BUT EVENTUALLY SHE DOES. HE TELLS HER WHY HE MARRIED KUSHI, FOR HER AND HER CHILD. HE THEN TELLS HER HE DIDN'T LOVE KUSHI AT THE TIME OF THE FORCED MARRIAGE BUT IT WAS AFTER THE MARRIAGE HE FELL IN LOVE. I WAS LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME, MAN? BUT IF I AM TO TAKE THAT AS HIS REALITY THEN HIS ATTRACTION TO KUSHI WAS JUST THAT, A GUT REACTION, ONE MAYBE OF LUST? AN ATTRACTION HE COULDN'T CONTOL OR GET RID OF IF HE WANTED TO. THE LOVE CAME AFTER EVEN IF I WANTED TO BELIEVE IT WAS THERE. DEEPLY COMPLICATED MAN HE WAS.
AND I AM BACK EVEN IF IT MEANS I DON'T SLEEP!
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@Indi
Thanks Indi for understanding my point. I never can support suicide. I was really irritated even when they showed Khushi attempted to suicide. Just to get influenced by a sarcastic show in TV a mature girl like Khushi decided to give her life! Does it make any sense? Where Khushi was portrayed as a girl of strong will.

You are right may be they changed the story later or the change of writer messed up everything. Arnav's mom probably was killed. You know, what is the main flaws of IPK? there were so many tracks and events remained closed in the story.So when Gul asked in forum-32 that the story has run it's course, so there is no point to continue this. Then I wished to say "what the" like my man. how cum the story ran it's course where there is so many things is still mystery!

Let me say something about a fact. You must know it better than me, as you are more experienced. Nowadays in our society adultery became a very common thing. I see people are leading double life everywhere, even in a conservative muslim society in Pakistan. .The married couple have been living together for the sake of children, but having extra marital affair beside this.I never heard anybody committed suicide for this.

I wish Khushi reads Arnav's mom's letter someday, if season-2 comes.😆

In spite of so many flaws IPK still is the best.
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Originally posted by: cinthiann1758


INDI, I JUST WATCHED THE EPISODE WHERE ARNAV HAS DISAPPOINTED DI. SHE THINKS HE LIED ABOUT HIS MEETING IN AGRA AND THEY ALL WALKED IN TO AN INTIMATE SCENE OF A&K. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO TALK WITH HIM BUT EVENTUALLY SHE DOES. HE TELLS HER WHY HE MARRIED KUSHI, FOR HER AND HER CHILD. HE THEN TELLS HER HE DIDN'T LOVE KUSHI AT THE TIME OF THE FORCED MARRIAGE BUT IT WAS AFTER THE MARRIAGE HE FELL IN LOVE. I WAS LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME, MAN? BUT IF I AM TO TAKE THAT AS HIS REALITY THEN HIS ATTRACTION TO KUSHI WAS JUST THAT, A GUT REACTION, ONE MAYBE OF LUST? AN ATTRACTION HE COULDN'T CONTOL OR GET RID OF IF HE WANTED TO. THE LOVE CAME AFTER EVEN IF I WANTED TO BELIEVE IT WAS THERE. DEEPLY COMPLICATED MAN HE WAS.
AND I AM BACK EVEN IF IT MEANS I DON'T SLEEP!


welcome to insomnia and all its pleasures, cynthia.

about that scene... ok, i was also shocked when he said that. but if we look at the scenes candidly... he never once said he loved her, even in his head. it was this inexplicable and utter pull, too strong to be called even an attraction... a faraq padna, if you will. this he couldn't finally deny, when his di said to him after the accident that one should always tell people one cares for what they feel, and not procrastinate. streaming tears in his eyes, tears of deep love and relief, he decided to tell khushi how he feels, why it makes a difference. just a few evenings before he had heard his own heart's dhakdhak and connected it to "khushi!"

but had he connected that dhak dhak to "love"?

he is far more complicated than we are willing to let him be. too many expectations, a need to see him as "good" not just as he is.

i took what barun said of his character later very seriously... even if there were things about asr which were not likable, he had to make sure they became so. he worked so hard at doing that, that we started to see asr as our own individual versions of prince charming maybe... completely forgetting that it was his very flaws, his closed heart, his disbelief in love, his raging sexual appeal... all of that had attracted us, had us riveted.

i have always loved the bad boy in him.

he was utterly maimed by the effect of "love" on his personal life. the death of his mother had left him broken, saddened, inert in his core. he banished the word love from his life... in his early arguments with nani ji, and evening chats with di he has been clear about that.

he had felt the undeniable need for khushi. it was of course undying love... but did he identify it as that?

or did he really come to understand it better as he spent days with her after marrying her trying to hate her but not succeeding... and then before his kidnap, he'd asked himself: why is it hurting me so much to leave khushi? obviously, the word love had still not established itself... till he looked into the nozzle of a gun pointed at him, contemplated death... perhaps only then did he realise what it was all along... khushi, i love you.

he said later, he tried his level best to keep her away from him, hate her even... but his own heart refused to listen to him.

from our point of view it was love all along... but from his, that was a taboo word. he fought as hard as he could...

so in a convoluted way, he did marry her for his di's sake. but we all also felt it was because he couldn't bear the thought of khushi belonging to anyone else... a complex punishing of her for even daring to think of another man... and a desperate attempt to have her no matter what.

but he didn't know this was because he loved her... it's just something he had to do... no explanations. isn't it more fascinating because of this precisely?

lust. if it were only that, he would have just had sex with her when he was ready. and he certainly wouldn't have given a damn if she were hurt or not. his tears would not have played such havoc with him.

there is a reason the show is called: what shall we call this love (rough translation). it was no simple love, yet it was love all the while and so much of it, it was the reason for him to start living a full life again. and for her to feel all woman, with a right over someone on this earth. two orphans finally completed by a powerful emotion that gave each back what life had cruelly robbed fro them.

this is why the show could not be called didi ki saut... she never was that... she was the love of his life presented to him in the guise of the other woman.

have i rambled enough?

but ye, would have been nice, if he told her that some day...ow he thought he was marrying for his sister, how he believed it was really so een as late as when he said it to di, but now as he went through all the fiasco of remarriage, and everything... he realises he married her for one and only one reason.. his mad crazy farq padta hai love. "faraq padta hai kyunki tum meri ho... sirf meri... i love you, khushi. hamesha."

"make s a difference, because you are mine, only mine, i love you, khushi. hamesha."

oh he would have rocked the universe saying that, cynthia, what say.


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Posted: 12 years ago
^^^ sohara,

that playing around with suicide is dangerous. i so so afgree.

26 may sunday, a friend's daughter attended my daughter's bat mitzvah party with her husband, sister, parents. i met them. they all had a good time... on wednesday, this girl just walked away from the whole family saying, i'll be back in a second, and threw herself to her death from their 18th floor apartment.

it is still ringing inside me, this fact. imagine what it is doing to her parents, her husband of less than two years, her only sister.

this mushiness over suicide is just plain wrong. a certain callousness in our serial writers and production houses... greedy as they are for "masala" and trp. but this... unpardonable... that khushi suicide scene was so so so not needed. i am glad, asr didn't fall at her feet and say "can't live without you, " after that.

death is a reality. i don't say we run away from it... but suicide should be handled only if it is an integral part of story.
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Indi,
That is shocking. Please convey my condolences to your friend. She must be devastated. Those scenes from 3 idiots are going on in my mind. Whatever the reasons be, taking one's own life is not a solution.

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