Blast from the Past Thread #10, pg 45, epi 113 - Page 78

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan

Originally posted by: chalhov

@ episode 116 CAN WE FORGET

Arnav watches shattered devastated as Khushi goes and she is also sad and devastated ASR wants to keep his facade on and he does for sometime till he sees a key on his table he wants to throw it but it takes him back to the dargah and Khushi giving him Mannat ki chabi(key) and the key shows him Khushi's blood he is unable to stay even for a minute he gets ready and goes to the temple to put medicine and bandage and its on her ring fingure DM has saved them they are made for each other but still bullheaded dont want to recognise it so the wound and bandage will prevent Shyam from putting the ring on her finger and till its broken a false engagement takes place with Shyam Arnav has indirectly protected his Khushi

jinhe hum bhulaana chaahe, wo aksar yaad aate hain
bura ho iss muhabbat ka, wo kyon kar yaad aate hain

bhulaaye kis tarah un ko, kabhi pi thi un aankhon se
chhalak jaate hain jab aansu, wo saagar yaad aate hain

kisi ke sunrkha lab the ya diye ki lau machalati thi
jaha ki thi kabhi puja, wo mandar yaad aate hain

rahe aye shamma tu roshan, duwa deta hain parawaana
jinhe kismat mein jalna hain, wo jalakar yaad aate hain

Originally posted by: DurgaS

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Episode 114

This poem is inspired from the last line of Indi's review of 111

this was a night like no other night.

and these lines from Cynthia's review of 111-113

Both Arnav and Kushi are fixed to be

ENGAGED...

But not to each other.

Thank you both, Indi and Cynthia, for the inspirations. 😊

THE NIGHT

This was a night like no other

Turmoil of emotions witnessed by none other

From a night of passion, it turned into one of distraught

Happiness for all, but for the two, only misery it brought

Moments of attraction created a repelling effect

Enormities of desires lead to a decision inept

This was a couple in love, meant to be together

But a night like this they had dreamt of never

One was the receiver; the other, the giver of pain

One was confused; the other had control to gain

One denied to confess; as the other denied to earlier

Both wearing masks to hide from each other

As they stood under the moonlit sky

Forgetting each other, such a worthless try

Both in pain, pining for each other

Both agreed to be engaged, but alas, with some other

DurgaS's Index

Originally posted by: Katelyn

Episode 110
Arnav and Khushi are destined to walk together forever hand in hand to love, support and protect each other!

Originally posted by: ...Doctor...

Hello everybody *waves awkwardly*

My exams are not over but I'm done with the major one *phew*

How are you guys? I missed you loads 🤗

I just saw Katelyn's avis, we have reached the 'almost kiss' episode? 😲 I need to catch up soon. Almost kiss ☺️

So what was I saying? Err..?!

Originally posted by: indi52

REPLIES to INDI52

really, only in a hindi show, such rare delights. this is too cute. and for all you know there are people who actually say that.

*** apologies... if people say that then it becomes part of the vernacular... happy to accept that... the scenes are so perfect that I got carried away with a small blemish.

liked that "sab darama" comment. for all you know that's exactly what the writers meant when they gave her the words. really the man wants all her attention and love, just that he thinks yelling and insulting will get the job done. not just shatir, subconscious super shatir... that's exactly what happens too.

*** loved it

writers were super at psychology. yes, arnav has a destructive side to his coping mechanism.

one big difference with khushi's experience, though.

she was 8, not old enough to understand many things. and her parentsdied in a car accident. if there were deeper, blacker, more complicated aspects to this death, she wasn't aware of them. and nor were we ever told. so it was tragic, but not tainted with other complications.

*** true, agreed...

arnav on the other hand, was a young man. 14. quite capable of understanding what father having an affair with another woman means. the death of his parents was traumatic enough, given their suicide (maybe even murder). but along with that, the filthy taint of another woman. a father who was loose of morals. a mother who killed herself because of that.

*** definitely more messed up...

there was bound to be repercussions of this knowledge on the young man. his sister, somehow, and frankly i have no idea how, seems to have sublimated all anger and shame about this. but not arnav. that dark, unwholesome streak to the death of his beloved mother... how could it not leave its negative impact on him and his way of dealing with life.

i wish we had gone more into all of this, and the show had gone on a couple more decades. 😆

and those lines in bold purple about this kambakht pyaar 👏 you really don't write well.😆

*** Those are just self talk Indie... my insecurities showing😆 IPKKND made me feel like I was 21 again, trying to push away that 20 yr old boy out of my mind. Hurled insults worse than ASR could think of to see if he would still come back. So glad that Khushi came back... ASR needed that assurance. Its almost part of an Abuse Cycle; which is usually hard to break. But Arnav was able to break the cycle. That's why I was pleased with his changed soft sensitive lover avatar of Arnav. It made sense to me.

Thank you for the encouraging words.

Originally posted by: shesherkobita

Had to stop by this interesting psychoanalytic conversation. So agree it was all in the CV's mind when they created A and K. They tried to throw some minor shades of attention seeking personality disorder associated with the traumatic past in both characters. She is his drama queen, he is her drama king. ASR being the more damaged.
Also I would like to speculate some Narcistic shades in A. Under the ultra confidant mask is a fragile self esteem. Guess he could not explain K the reason for their marriage for so long for the fear of loosing her to Shyam. One of the reasons we love ASR is his fine ability to suck up the character and present it with the due complexity. There are instances when the movement of his irises clearly display some degree of underlying psychotic reaction. How easily he huts K, by denying all he means in reality.

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Indi and Viv,

Thank you for your replies... I so so agree with you guys... and hats off to CVs to give us such wonderful characters to discuss.

I absolutely agree with ASR's insecurities being masked by projecting a tough persona. "I am never wrong", "I never lose a bet", I write my own destiny" 😆

I often thought he would've married Khushi irrespective of Anjali's pregnancy. He would've found another way to keep her shackled to him. He doesn't just have LOVE for Khushi, he breathes and lives for her.. (promise me you wont leave me, I cant live without you...For ASR this is more than just cliched words that lovers often say, he means it). Say khushi was really having an affair... he still would've loved her. Did he not continue to have Rabba Ve after the forced marriage (when he believed Khushi loved shayam)?

Movement of the irises... How did Sobti know so much about them?😉 someone on CVs team watches too many CSI, Profilers.

okay, last one for the road... All these "mehsoos"/ feeling each other's presence... Amygdala in one's brain creates Olfactory and Dejavu auras... When you are in love, you think, observe, smell (olfactory) the other person "Kareeb se" ( A to K after Sangeet... I didnt know you observe me so closely). When that person is near by... you might get a whiff ( the model with fur coat said... Arnav smells good) or hear a sound ( needless to say Khushi's payal, bangles must have a distinctive sound) and Amygdala finishes the rest of the puzzle and informs you of the presence of that particular person. I am not trying to take the romanticism out of it... just saying.. it is REAL.

I am so in awe of the IPK team. If this was an american hit show... in 3 yrs time you would see PhD dissertation on episode 111/112/113... in Psych Journals, Women's Health (Cycle of Violence, how to break it), Cinematography Pixel Analysis and Background music Beat analysis. 😃 Needless to say all Indi, Cynthia,Amy,Sohara, Samin, Arshihamesha's analysis would have been published in hard covered books.🤗

Sab

Originally posted by: supriya.arshi

Episode 112



Episode 113



Title Credit : Cynthia

This bottom one "doesn't mean a thing" is 🥺 caught on so well by you. really 👏👏⭐️.The colors and expressions are so good supi.Love it👏👏

Originally posted by: samin6

Episode 110 - 111 first part:
Arnav's own piece of heaven and Khushi's secret recluse. To me the highlight of the episodes were the first time that Khushi sees that Arnav knows Khushi can feel him. The second highlight is when Khushi sees that Arnav can also feel her presence and Arnav knowing that Khushi saw him feeling her presence. There are a song which always remind me of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4QQMj6-mg
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4QQMj6-mg[/YOUTUBE]

To understand an intense chemistry this song is unparalleled. I have always liked this couple which were timeless. The pain of what to do, to choose between duty and love, to make a choice when duty because of own choice and the pain of lost love and broken heart becomes apparent.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVD_jIUZcBo[/YOUTUBE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVD_jIUZcBo

In this episode each time I felt that Arnav and Khushi must both be in a dilemma, they both had the feeling that in imminent time they were going to sacrifice their love for each other, they both seem to be very keen in wanting to keep the moment they have togather. They both were very close, but they were again far apart. They wanted to give up all inhibitions and cry at each other's arms and at the same time could not. They wanted the other one to understand and did understand what the other one was going to make as a decision. However even when they knew that separation was going to happen still wanted each other's company. It seemed as if they both two like Aarti and JK wanted every obstacle and outside to by miracle disappear.
Arnav seeing Khushi's premonition of him: Arnav saw for the first time that Khushi can feel his presence when he went searching for her after dropping her off at the middle of the road after Janmashtami. The second time was the day Arnav thought Khushi has broken his laptop. He saw her sensing him and looking at him. However in neither case did he even give the slightest hint to Khushi that he was aware of her premonition his presence. During Diwali however when he saw that she has evidenced her premonition of his presence, it seemed as a boon to both of them. Khushi was under a lot of pressure from home to marry Shyam, it was her first diwali outside Lucknow and she had to face the fact that she loved a person who was unreachable. Therefore she was confused when he was stepping towards her with amusement knowing about her premonition. At that moment she surrounded by lamps in red- his favorite color, was entranced thinking how to tell him more clearly her feelings, and it seemed she did not need anymore when he has seen it firsthand. The thought in those moment were probably those she had said in Heer Ranjha " Jise jee jaan se chahte hain, jab use akhon ke samne paate hain to akhen bolti hain Zuban Nehi. " This was a moment which she wanted to recall through each heartbreak- because it was the first time she saw he had accepted her feelings for him without any reproach. Arnav had kept a straight face when Khushi told him that she was getting nervous and her heart was beating fast when she went to give him an explanation after he became unconscious. He kept a straight face when Khushi told him that she thought he had cast an spell on her so it was evident that he did not want her to guess that he was aware of her premonition of his presence. I think watching her in his favorite colour saree was his breaking point and her premonition of him was probably something which after years awoke his dormant heart, which had turned to stone after his parent's death.
Khushi seeing Arnav's premonition of her : We know that Arnav could feel Khushi's presence from when she came back to take her DM from the office. The Shreya Ghosal version of the song starts after Khushi for the first time understands that Arnav can also feel her presence.When he saw that she has evidenced his premonition of her presence, it seemed as a dying man's last wish to him and to her .
As it said - Iss paal hain apna- to iss pal ko Jile, Sholo ke tarha zara jal ke jile, -After he learnt about the source of Khushi's payal he knew he had to give that back to her and to make things worse his grandmother was pushing him to marry Lavanya. So it seemed he just wanted to grab those moments and not let them go. They both seem to think- they needed to live each and every second of those moments to the fullest. That was probably why Arnav went to give Khushi her Payal.
Pal Jhapak ke kho na jana :He wanted to feel each second. He simply wanted everyone around him to vanish and he was oblivious to anything except the fact that Khushi was having the same feelings and abstract connection with him as he had for her. They both seem to be in a daze and grab the moment, make it comeback and hold it so that the plapable moment does not leave them.

After effects of evidencing each other's premonition on Arnav: Arnav went to Khushi her Payal. With it came the unspoken guilt, pain of losing something valuable, and asking something that was less tangible, probably her heart, her calling him to her. He went when he felt she wanted him to look back at her, moved towards her to kiss her. His eyes seem to say- "Tujhko bhula ke aab jawu kaha ( I have no place to go leaving you." He requests her," Lo tham lo yeh lamho ke dhage, hum chal pare hain sapno ke aage. (Please hold this moment with me and move with me in in our dreamland" And with that came the promise of ASR which he kept " Rasta hain yeh kathin par- iss safar mein Kabhi na hongi aap duriya ( I will never stay apart from you)." I doubt even if I tried I could emphasize a better way of describing ASR's feeling for that moment.

After effects of evidencing each other's premonition on Khushi: Khushi seemed always to move back from him with full confidence that he would move towards her. When he was leaving after putting her payal, rejected that she was refusing him more, she called him back with her eyes, however the moment he looked back she caste down her eyes. After all this was the first time she had been confronted by ASR and ASR was asking her something she was confused about giving- her heart and feelings to him without hesitation. Her feminine hesitation she was however willing to give up- provided he told her why he kept her Payal with him. . She needed him to vocalize what he felt, because as she said, "Kyunki baat aapki hain faraq padta hain, kisi aur ki hoti to nehi padta na, aur agar abh bhi aise chale jayenge to hum saas bhi nehi le payenge". However even without knowing- she always had always complied to Arnav's unsaid words, messages he conveyed with his eyes. Remembered what she said " Ham bhi kitni Koshish ki aap se pyaar na karne ke liye- lekin hamare dil bhi hamare baat nehi mani." I think this was an instance when her heart refused to listen to her head not to love him without hesitation.