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Posted: 12 years ago
Great post, completely agree with you, it seems like u've put into words what i've been thinking. I've read every post on every page to get here and what i dont understand is why are some people again bringing sobti into it and comparing what he did or did not do with what gul did or did not do and saying blame him too? Both were bashed badly, and this was and is wrong and many people are unhappy with one or the other or both.

But - if we forget about him for a second what stands out is who was responsible for the show from inception to birth to duration to end - 4lions and ultimately gul. Who was responsible for storyline/lack of, characterisation, all tracks good or bad, costumes, sets, everything - 4lions and thus gul. Who was responsible for sensitive, confidential information getting leaked - gul. Who did not come out with a statement to the fans or the media about what the actual situation was - gul. Who did not defend her employee in either of the coffee interviews but instead made them a platform for washing herself of all blame - gul.

It is not about what gul did compared to what barun did, who was worse, who's to blame, its about the person IN POWER, the person IN CHARGE, the EMPLOYER who owned and ran the show not taking any responsibility for her professional actions throughout the shows existence. This is unnacceptable, this is assuming your audience are uneducated in how industry works and will not ask questions, this is assuming your audience will not question contradictory statements, this is assuming your audience can be distracted from your action/inaction with 'mummy' facebook statements, forum32 gaffes and open letters, random spoiler givers, outside sources, so many things - ALL meant to shift blame away from the actual people in charge towards an employee.

Did barun create the show? Did barun create the characters? Did he write the show? Did he direct the show? Did he finance the show? No. Did he fulfill his obligations and contract and do what he was paid to do? Yes. What he does after that is his business whether we agree or disagree with his decision. Did 4lions or gul fulfill their obligation to the audience in terms of storyline, script, tracks, logic, characterisations, closing of loops, parallel storylines, use of ensemble cast, keeping actors, writers, directors happy creatively? No. Did they even stay true to their original concept and storyline and characters? No. Did they respect the audience enough to tell them the truth directly about the lead actor leaving, the state of the show, the reason for closure? No.

I feel like the interview is being used like smoke and mirrors to take my attention away from who is ultimately responsible for each and every aspect of the show. I dont see the need to vent out frustrations by bashing anyone but i dont see how all the questions we as a loyal audience have can be answered by putting the blame on an employee. How is barun responsible for EVERYTHING? The buck stops with the boss - gul. Until 4lions and gul answer our valid questions we will continue to be wary and suspicious of their motives in every single thing they do.
Edited by stg1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
rima di..awesome post..yes u r absolutely right..as a person she should nt be bashed..But yes as professional she has done many mistakes..in one word


4lions r truly UNPROFESSIONAL...
Edited by SAFATWEET - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
bang on rima di 👏 finally u spoke wat shud be told.. no 1 deserves personal bashing.. criticism is gr8 as long as ppl don go personally.. professionally v have the rite to criticise but mock , bash, make link up stories.. be it barun o gul.. no1 deserves it..m sorry to her fr personal bashing but nt sorry as she ruined the story
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Posted: 12 years ago

Rima..

my apologises for posting in this thread. and i am really sorry if my words hurt you..
i get it that you do not like the hatred or bashing.
i am not questioning you not questioning bashing of sanaya, viraf, mohit, PH, rajan shahi, SP, call centre guys... you surely must have had your own reasons.
gul surely looks like she is indeed at fault. but then again for some people.. so is barun. why no consession for being critical of him and none for gul.
yeah the bashing has been going on for too long. being too harsh. but shouldn't people be allowed to voice their opinions no matter how harsh and rude they are without us sitting on judgement on their moral values, ethics and personal lives.. everytime?
for someone who claims to hate hatred... you do provide breeding grounds for hatred. sorry rima but i think this to be true.
a post for yours ran 48 pages with nothing but judgemental calls and taunts and mocking of fellow members.
this one has gul bashing posts (Bull? really?).
i have nothing against or For.. anyone or anything related to IPK> i just happened to like this forum which was vibrant and colourful and thinking one.. Once.
my apologises again.
i loved your posts and thoughts long time back. so thought of saying what i have seen go wrong.
no offense and nothing personal...
if someone can question someone for being not commited enough to their job ; others should be allowed to do the same for some else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
NEITHER SHE DESERVES PROFESSIONAL APPOLOGY NOR PERSONAL...SHE IS SUCH A COWARD THAT SHE CANT COME UP DIRECTLY ..USES HER ACTORS TO SAY GOOD POINTS ABOUT HER..HUH..MY FOOT..SHE KNOWS SHE HAS DONE WRONG WITH SERIAL AND CTORS BOTH THTS WHY NOW TRYING TO CLARIFY THINGS..
YOU CAN BASH ME ..BUT I DONT TRUST THE LADY AT ALL
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Posted: 12 years ago
Rima Ji 👏

You said it all right !! Yeah i bashed Gul ..She does not deserve that bad treatment

BUT BUT

She made mistakes ..She didnt act like a professional lady !!
She tried to point out her actor(s)..

For eg : Her 2 interviews ..Seriously IT WAS SO FAKE ...

🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
there is not even a single word to which i dont agree. i also personally feel that gul as a human being should not have been bashed so much. after all, she is a live human and in fact comes to know whatever the world talks about her. just imagine,how bad will a person feel when she comes to know about such things being said about her in open.after all,she is the one who gave us arshi.

yes,,but when i remember what we ppl have undergone, i also feel angry on her.i know she is no saint.but still, bashing a person like anything is not the best way to express your anger
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: .nimmi.

Rima..

my apologises for posting in this thread. and i am really sorry if my words hurt you..
i get it that you do not like the hatred or bashing.
i am not questioning you not questioning bashing of sanaya, viraf, mohit, PH, rajan shahi, SP, call centre guys... you surely must have had your own reasons.
gul surely looks like she is indeed at fault. but then again for some people.. so is barun. why no consession for being critical of him and none for gul.
yeah the bashing has been going on for too long. being too harsh. but shouldn't people be allowed to voice their opinions no matter how harsh and rude they are without us sitting on judgement on their moral values, ethics and personal lives.. everytime?
for someone who claims to hate hatred... you do provide breeding grounds for hatred. sorry rima but i think this to be true.
a post for yours ran 48 pages with nothing but judgemental calls and taunts and mocking of fellow members.
this one has gul bashing posts (Bull? really?).
i have nothing against or For.. anyone or anything related to IPK> i just happened to like this forum which was vibrant and colourful and thinking one.. Once.
my apologises again.
i loved your posts and thoughts long time back. so thought of saying what i have seen go wrong.
no offense and nothing personal...
if someone can question someone for being not commited enough to their job ; others should be allowed to do the same for some else.

so far as my intentionas are clear
I cannot the actions of other people
if they want to keep fighting
and misinterpreting things
I have no control over it
just as all religions teach peace
but all people try to fight over it
and make ohate out of it
so as long as my intentions are clear
and i have a message to tell
you will never see me stopping such posts
not unless hate stops
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: mbbsrocks

NEITHER SHE DESERVES PROFESSIONAL APPOLOGY NOR PERSONAL...SHE IS SUCH A COWARD THAT SHE CANT COME UP DIRECTLY ..USES HER ACTORS TO SAY GOOD POINTS ABOUT HER..HUH..MY FOOT..SHE KNOWS SHE HAS DONE WRONG WITH SERIAL AND CTORS BOTH THTS WHY NOW TRYING TO CLARIFY THINGS..

YOU CAN BASH ME ..BUT I DONT TRUST THE LADY AT ALL

no the personal bashing was wrong
veryy wrong
and there is no condoning that
Banjaaran25 thumbnail
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rima

so far as my intentionas are clear
I cannot the actions of other people
if they want to keep fighting
and misinterpreting things
I have no control over it
just as all religions teach peace
but all people try to fight over it
and make ohate out of it
so as long as my intentions are clear
and i have a message to tell
you will never see me stopping such posts
not unless hate stops

religion is a BIG thing rima. lets not bring it here😊.
i am no one to tell you to stop or write any posts. this is a free forum. and i believe every one has a right to voice his/her opinions. good, bad or ugly. as long as it is within the perview of CC of IF. it is not anyone's moral responsibility to keep a check on what and how others should think.
if someone wants to defend someone, by all means they are free to do so. but not at the cost of putting down or questioning others who choose to think different.
i am neither defending nor critisizing those who bash. be it barun, sanaya, gul, viraf or someone else. i am simply stating a fact that... let people be.
just bcoz someone drools.. they dont become a brainless drooler.
similar way.. if someone critisizes they dont become a heartless lifeless basher.
just have to let go being so judgemental. no one can take a moral high ground here rima.
None.
Sadly Not even you.
why am i saying this here. coz gul is being critisized for being unprofessional, not comitted to job, not being clear enough, ambigious. not questioning the opinions. just wondering why it is termed as being a hater or basher when someone does the same for other party.
why all concessions, hail marys, standing ups for only One party?
i donno about you rima but i for one feel sad at the state this once wonderfully vibrant, talented and happening forum is reduced too. if only people were more accepting. if only.
Edited by .nimmi. - 12 years ago

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