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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

I personally don't think that you should be bashed or whatsoever cause just like you said, this is your point of view and everyone has the right to accept it or not! I would just like to say that I do happen to agree with you on 1-2 points, namely where we can't force SP to bring back Barun Sobti if the dude himself is not ready to come back! The decision for him to come back lies entirely with him. Of course, like many others, i would be ecstatic to see him back because he's truly a brilliant actor but only he can make that decision!

However, i have to add a point of my own which kind of goes against what you mentioned about Barun not wanting to work for long hours and etc. The way i see it, is that perhaps the dude thinks that money & work is not everything to him. He prefers to do short stints and not want to log around for years just for a job! I agree that indian tv is not built that way but it's all up to the actor himself. If he thinks, he just wanted to do short projects and take breaks, then he's not wrong either. To him, it could just be a job and his family and other things are far more important to him. It's not his fault either that the world fell in love with his brilliant acting skills. I would say, he's an awesome actor and the best i have seen but if he chooses to take a seat right now & explore other stuff, that does not make him a bad person. I agree that if he decides to come back to the tv world, he may not have his original fan base and may not be able to regain this status again but if he is GOOD (like many of his true fans claims), then he will come back with a bang once again. Sadly, his fans would have to wait for him but nevertheless, we will support him when he does.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: robertpati



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Ask the same question to yourself wont you...

India Forum is not your pet property...so respect others and their opinion if you don't just discuss or ignore...
Edited by Didikisaut - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#63
Pheww...read the whole thing...i like d way u write...
I agree with u...this whole fisco has only gained negative publicity for him rather than.positivity...seeing the disclaimer most f the trp audiences think dat the sole reason for closure of the show is barun...v ppl who r on social networking sites know the other aspects of the whole drama...
Most ppl love the character of asr more than barun...it wud hv been better if he continued wit the show...there were more chances of his film doin good...but now since he'l b out of sight for a long time before his film releases god knws wat wil happen...
I agree that bollywood is not as welcoming as the tv industry mayb he'l hav to struggle...lets hope fr the best...
But I really want to see him back with sanaya in a new show and wil bug sp for that...hope he takes the right decision...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64
Very long post...though good attempt to write your POV.

According to my POV your post makes no sense t me.Its a reality in your language and to add with yours and many others perception.For me your post sounds more like an upset viewer's remark(someone who is hurt) who did not want him to leave or show to end than a real and practical person's analysis.Again my POV.
We as a human being comprehend one's answers in different way.And you have written the way you have understand.But at some places you have written something which you think.Like the below.

Even barun knows that, in all interviews he has been saying- I don't know whether its Good or bad but I had to stand by it. Using the word BAD is sufficient to state his sceptical tone which tells even he fears.. IF'HIS DECISION HARMS HIM.?
If i have to understand this then i will analyse this as no one knows what will happen in future.And thats what a practical man should say.Confidence is good but not over confidence.According to me by "bad" he does not mean he is scared.He does not fear thats why he has taken this risk.I am into business and i use this statement in my every investment making decision.Its not because i am scared or not confident its because i know the outcome is dependent on many external factors on which I have no control.And which only time decides.

Again you have made many assumptions on discussions between Producers and Actors.And then again you have written your POV that what you think that barun think this but this may not be a realtiy.So you have written your POV as Barun's dialogues.But those are not Barun's thought. Obviously one can't surely says what made Barun take this decision.
And as my input Baat Hamari was not a flop show.Though this show was just for 6 months but it gained much popularity and it was also nominated in an Award.Though I have not followed that show but have read much about that show.And there are many Barun's fan who have followed IPK just because of Baat Hamari.And apart from being ASR, Barun has made himself more popular because of his offscreen nature.Talk to some real Barun fans.You will know the fact.When you talk of SRK you remember Raj of DDLJ but for me its his role from Chak de..because thats the only place i found him best...in short your post is just your POV but you have made it generalise.TBH i have a completely different view from yours and I am sure there are many like me in this.And not a single line of your post sound sense to me.Again no offense.Just my POV.For me movies are far above SRK.I am on those list who hardly watches any SRK movie..for me movies is about acting and content not garden dance.
As you have done your survey even i have some my research about Barun's fandom outside internet.And i must say its far far better than online medium.I can't comment on it now as I am not suppose to but after a month i will do it.
And when you talk about Rajeev i have not seen him in KTH i saw him in hosting a show and i have heard many people appreciating him in Soundtrack movie.And since that movie he has a different fan following.And for me Rajeev is Rajeev not Sujal and I am quite ready to see him doing any different role.
For me every good thing has a start and an end and it should not be dragged because with time it loose its essence.And same happened with IPK and ASR's role.I am glad it has end because once you start overusing thing it loose its charm.Though i still feel the show deserved an end long back but its never late.
Its very easy to sit back and comment what one thought before doing so and so and what he/she discussed with his/her employers but i prefer not to comment on anything which i do not know.So whatever you wrote about his personal problems is again what you think not actually what happened.I know that Barun's last 2 shows got abrupt end and so that person has all right to be cautious and mention your tenure for next show.And what looks sensible to you looks impractical to me.I may be popular but i am not the only popular actor to dictate my terms.I guess the basic problem lies here is that its we who thinks Barun is a star but for Barun he has just started its career and this popularity is just a good time in his journey.
And when we some people think that IPK is only a super hit show(like you said 1 IPK =10 BW films) then there are some who give a damn about IPK and some who hated this show and some who do not know this show even exist.There are many around me like this.

Where you can see Barun's this decision will have negative impact on his career, i from my life experience can say it will have a good impact.And i did not find all of TV industry calling this decision wrong.There are many like Rajan Singh who appreciates this decision. Personally i appreciates his decision.and not only his i appreciate Akshay's and deepali's decision too.
Infact all of these things made Barun more popular and he being a quality actor any producer would like to cash on this popularity.At the end who do not want popularity.And when popularity comes with so much of fan following any one would like to use it,
Your post being in IPK forum may have many who agree on this but outside IPK world it has no meaning.And being Barun's admirer I will not ask him to leave BW or leave TV.I feel he should take different roles.And in near future I do not want him to work with Sanaya just to cash on their popularity.Thats a easy thing to do.Step out of comfort zone,try new different roles and then prove that yes you are an actor.For me his journey has just started...long way to go.He fail or succeed but he will be richer by experience so when a time comes when he has to take a stable and mature career he can decide well.Yes,i like him but not blindly that i will make decision of his life or suggest him or demand anything
I hope i have not offended you.I respect your opinion and i feel its not necessary we all to think alike.Its just my POV and some input based on my surrounding response.
Edited by coolnisha_fun87 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: Didikisaut


Ask the same question to yourself wont you...

India Forum is not your per property...so respect others and their opinion if you don't just discuss or ignore...


The funniest thing is, robertpati was on a post earlier which called for respecting difference of opinions, respecting actors, and respecting members...no matter what the opinions were. And they were agreeing with the post.

Yet, every post I see made by them is either praising Barun or bashing the life out of anyone who dare speak a word against Barun, shown by this thread again and the targeted replies to members.

Give me a break with these double standards.


@TM i have updated, pg 7 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Didikisaut


Ask the same question to yourself wont you...

India Forum is not your per property...so respect others and their opinion if you don't just discuss or ignore...

ignore her .
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Posted: 12 years ago
#67
Awesome post u have analysed everything brilliantly..
I agree BW is not there standing with a garland 2 welcome him he will have 2 struggle alot 2 get the same fame n popularity as he got 4 ASR..
I seriously don't think he has the capability of making big in BW even though he might b having Ekta Kapoor but the kind of movies she makes will definitely not suit him. I can never imagine him in dirty picture or Once upon a time(these r da hit ones) n not even in the flop one's like Ragini MMS or Kya Supr kool.
I strongly believe he will come back 2 tv after a couple of yrs from now..He cannot make big there even though he is popular n a good actor n thats not enough..

He has been unclear in all his interviews which certainly prove that he himself is unsure abt the path, thats y he kept on saying break n not quitting tv.. I seriously wish he continued the show as it is it was ending in jan n he wont b promoting his movie b4 feb. He is free right now n if he wished he could have continued..
Edited by maana - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#68
bang on post...
every one wants SARUN back...including me...
but the million dollar question is what does Barun want? Does he want to work in TV or try his luck in films...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: McNinja

The funniest thing is, robertpati was on a post earlier which called for respecting difference of opinions, respecting actors, and respecting members...no matter what the opinions were. And they were agreeing with the post.

Yet, every post I see made by them is either praising Barun or bashing the life out of anyone who dare speak a word against Barun, shown by this thread again and the targeted replies to members.

Give me a break with these double standards.


@TM i have updated, pg 7 😊


This forum is full of hypocrites...they respect only those with whom there POV match, rest are like worthless piece of shit . If people start to make them accountable for there misdeeds they make posts for peace and blah blah...


Barun praising and bashing Gul is the only law of the land anyone opposing is
No Barun...No IPK lover and is an agent of XYZ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It looks like you want to run Barun's life. You are upset at him for leaving the show and want him to do what you want. It looks like you did not do your homework. Some of the facts are incorrect.

It looks like he told you why he left the show and how he does not like to work for more than 6 months...it is really pathetic how some people can be so selfish! No wonder our world is in this sorry state. Peace!

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