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Krani

@Krani

Dazzler

+ 9

Posted: 12 years ago

#121

Originally posted by: monalisa1234
I beg to differ..Fans r the ultimate power for making or breaking off a show.. no amount of potential cvs,directors,actors or writers can make a show run unless they get audience support for the same..if the same audience hv been loyal to the PH and the show since day1, they hv every right to protest against a supposed dark track that is highly illogical and preposterous at this juncture..u or few others may accept a 3rd party sexual involvement in the lead couple conjugal life, on the top of that existence of an illegal kid being a cherry on the cake..BUT it won't go down well either with the TRP audience or the online viewers..bcos at the end of the day no matter how much fiction it is, most of the TRP audience watch it only when it goes down well with their moral & values, ethics & conscience...history has the record itself that even ekta kapoor couldn't get a clean chit when she used to go on with her illegal kid tracks in different shws between lead couples..she was being bashed left and right and inspite of being considered to be a telly queen she had to back out to keep her audience loyal to her shows..she has absolutely stopped showing illegal sex and illegal child tracks for once and for all...so 4 lions is no exception either...

no matter how much a few online viewers appreciate and rejoice arnav's having sex with a random lady and having a kid as a result of it, majority is dead against the track . as a result, people who didn't even leave the show during DKS and past track, have quit it since last week..if u go on doing a review of last 24 hours, u would get to see the clear cut pic by urself..majority from fb,twitter and IF r dead against arnav having any sex with anyone else other than khushi and on the top of that fathering a kid that's not being given birth by his wife..

Hope I made it clear..

But sending a petition for every single thing that people disagree upon - what's the logic in that? Tomorrow, say the track is changed, it' still going absolute shit and then we have another petition asking them to change something else. The CVs might as well just hire the creative writers of this forum to write the story, then.

The audience does have the power, I am not denying that - but I have seen shows that have gone down the drain due to the CVs succumbing to audience pressure. I'd rather just see the track as they want us to see it rather than having to constantly interfere and still not be satisfied.

I think you misunderstood me - just because I am defending those who are arguing against the petition does not mean I am loving the track. I am not a fan of it, as I have stated before, however the only thing I disagree with is the petition asking for the track to be altered just so it can satisfy about 400 odd members. I am strongly against telling the writers or creatives (be it writers of this forum, or writers of a show) how to do their work and execute their story. They know what they are doing, eventually they want this show to stay on TV.

IPK has seen worse days, in my opinion. The track has not even unfolded yet, people are panicking over a spoiler - and the source seems confused herself - don't you think that's a bit unfair to the CVs? They haven't even had the chance to display whatever they want to show properly, nobody knows how they will go about with this, nobody knows whether it will serve to bring ArHi closer, or tear them apart - yet everyone is ready to believe the worst and send off a petition.

Edited by Krani - 12 years ago

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RJXX

@RJXX

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#122

Originally posted by: rima

SHE HAS NEVER ASKED TO CHANGE THE TRACK

Do you not see the irony in your above statement?

Why are petitions made in any case? To make something happen or not happen right...

If the CVs wanted to show Aarav as Arnav's son in this track then why bother making a petition at all if her purpose was NOT to change the track

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Rishita

@RickyBahl

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#123

Rima

iam always late on your post

but i was so devastated to see a post that supported that aarav shud be asr son biologically.

How can women want such things.

We are here to see a perfect love relation like heer ranjha, romeo-juiliet

.asr's virginity was never an issue. But to bring his past to haunt his love life, is it a good thought??? if its conspiracy we are ok but we never wanted that it shud be a true fact that that kid is his son.

why to assume that he has unprotected sex in his hay days , why cant we assume he has protected sex too. why to assume wrong things for the story??

if all things of daily life is to be counted and shown on TV then the Cv's from next day have to show asr getting up from bed, brushing teeth, going for shitting, even thats has to be shown .

Do u want to see that?? then why all are hell bent to bring past to spoil arshi relation.let it remain conspiracy.

How could people think that way that aarab shud be bought as asr kid just becoz he was a quite naughty in his college days .i was shocked???

For the sake of drama, have we forgottten some ideals and morals we hold sacred even in 21st century.

Some ppl tell that if that wud be asr kid, it wud be unintentional. so what if its unintentional.

we are here not to watch a madhur bhandarkar film about dark realities. we are here for a love story where every thing else can be imperfect but not the sanctity of arnav-khushi relation.

Its fact, accept or deny it sex is still forgiven, but sex byproduct from past relation crushes all.

some ppl want this son to be asr kid for separation and intensity.

But why didnt they demand that separation and intensity demanding cancelling remarriage. aand asking redemption. why they were silent then??? why now???

for separation and intensity we can have more ideas. How could ppl think that illegitimate track shud be used for intensity in reality will strenghthen arshi bond??? think practically. No way.

partner sexual loyalty, posesiveness towards life partner, rights over husband to form her own family. these are some things which cant be compromised for some pervert thoughts to see excitement on television. NOT AT ALL

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Forever19

@Forever19

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#124

Originally posted by: RitJ26

Do you not see the irony in your above statement?

Why are petitions made in any case? To make something happen or not happen right...

If the CVs wanted to show Aarav as Arnav's son in this track then why bother making a petition at all if her purpose was NOT to change the track

yes this is what i was pointing..actually the petition is for NOT to show aarav as arnav son..it can be any where in the track,not necessary to be at climax of track..so what is the difference between this and petition for change in track...

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borreg

@borreg

Inactive

Posted: 12 years ago

#125

Originally posted by: RitJ26

Do you not see the irony in your above statement?

Why are petitions made in any case? To make something happen or not happen right...

If the CVs wanted to show Aarav as Arnav's son in this track then why bother making a petition at all if her purpose was NOT to change the track

You have a valid point RitJ26.

Let's wait for the track to be played on our TV screen first. Why are we jumping into conclusion ever before that. So what if Arnav had a fling with Sheetal and if Aarav is indeed Arnav's kid. It does not mean the ASR had ditched her and the kid. Could be she never bothered to tell him, knowing his nature, anyways.

Or this is a gameplan of Shyam or sheetal together to ruin ARSHI's marriage..

Edited by borreg - 12 years ago

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Srija Singh

@srija.singh04

Voyager

+ 4

Posted: 12 years ago

#126

Well for one I m all for Arnav's casual sexual relationships, cz the last I checked the show was not about morality or idealism, it is about about two ver different and very imperfect people falling in love. Arnav was never shown to be a very conventionally 'moral' person, why do u think they used the metaphor of The Beauty and The Beast.

Arnav in the past was a man who didn't believe in marriage or in a life long commitment and that was made very clear at many points, he has admitted these things himself. And he had a livein with La, what did he want that for? Playing Videogames? So for people who want that Arnav be shown all 'chaste' and 'pure' forget that Arnav was never supposed to be this, and such expectations have been nothing but illusions, and in that case the ones harbouring them r no better than, 'Delusional Di'. Yes if he were to get involved in any fling now, thats the end for me too, but as of now he is the best husband one could dream of and just exactly what is he being blamed for, that he didn't sit with a crystal ball waiting for Khushi???

Aarav may or may not be Arnav's son, that I am not concerned much with, what m concerned with though, is that this hero was supposed to be a Mills and Boons hero and this show nwver aimed at preaching conventional morality.

With Khushi had she been given a different background I would hav been all supportive of her premarital sex life, but the idea was to bring in a heroine who was completely different from our hero, in every single way. I know there r a lot of speculations about her age, but initially the show showd her as 18, so I'll go with it. So she is an 18 year old (just stepped in d domains of adulthood, while he is 28), lived with family all her life (so lack of opportunities, while he lived in Harvard, in a very different and liberal culture), Has always believed in true love and marriage (while he never did)... So on wat basis exactly u guys r making the comparison, this difference was the basis of the story.

PS: This is not a morality story, or a feminist story,, or one promoting patriarchy. This is a lovestory with all colors of life present, so please stop looking at it from one point or another, it curtails the creativity and kills the very very idea of what it was supposed to be.

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samanthana

@samanthana

Rocker

Posted: 12 years ago

#127

Originally posted by: borreg
You have a valid point RitJ26.

Let's wait for the track to be played on our TV screen first. Why are we jumping into conclusion ever before that. So what if Arnav had a fling with Sheetal and if Aarav is indeed Arnav's kid. It does not mean the ASR had ditched her and the kid. Could be she never bothered to tell him, knowing his nature, anyways.

Or this is a gameplan of Shyam or sheetal together to ruin ARSHI's marriage..

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Allow CVS to portray their UNIQUE BOLD TRACK and allow them to breathe.

Dont Jump into Conclusion ,before story track unfold

How can you say that it is Illegimate track

ASR is not Ordinary SP Digra.. REMEBER HE IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE MEANING OF FICTIONAL CHARACTER.

THIS TRACK HAS HIGH POTENTIAL and WE CAN BRING OUR OLD ASR AND TIGRESS KUSHI BACK in action... More over their Bond,Love , TRUST would increase more.

Where is the Illegitimate Policy has gine when FAns can ABLE TO ACCEPT these kind of TRACKS in MOVIES in Bollywoood and why not in Serials..

GROW UP GIRLS

COME TO THE REAL WORLD AND NOT IN 1947 CENTURY

Go BAck and Read MISHTI SPOILER CAREFULLY TEN TIMES and COME TO THE CONCLUSION

Edited by samanthana - 12 years ago

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AliaBhatt

@AliaBhatt

Explorer

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#128

Originally posted by: RickyBahl
Rima

iam always late on your post
but i was so devastated to see a post that supported that aarav shud be asr son biologically.
How can women want such things.
We are here to see a perfect love relation like heer ranjha, romeo-juiliet
.asr's virginity was never an issue. But to bring his past to haunt his love life, is it a good thought??? if its conspiracy we are ok but we never wanted that it shud be a true fact that that kid is his son.

why to assume that he has unprotected sex in his hay days , why cant we assume he has protected sex too. why to assume wrong things for the story??

if all things of daily life is to be counted and shown on TV then the Cv's from next day have to show asr getting up from bed, brushing teeth, going for shitting, even thats has to be shown .

Do u want to see that?? then why all are hell bent to bring past to spoil arshi relation.let it remain conspiracy.

How could people think that way that aarab shud be bought as asr kid just becoz he was a quite naughty in his college days .i was shocked???
For the sake of drama, have we forgottten some ideals and morals we hold sacred even in 21st century.
Some ppl tell that if that wud be asr kid, it wud be unintentional. so what if its unintentional.
we are here not to watch a madhur bhandarkar film about dark realities. we are here for a love story where every thing else can be imperfect but not the sanctity of arnav-khushi relation.

Its fact, accept or deny it sex is still forgiven, but sex byproduct from past relation crushes all.
some ppl want this son to be asr kid for separation and intensity.
But why didnt they demand that separation and intensity demanding cancelling remarriage. aand asking redemption. why they were silent then??? why now???

for separation and intensity we can have more ideas. How could ppl think that illegitimate track shud be used for intensity in reality will strenghthen arshi bond??? think practically. No way.

partner sexual loyalty, posesiveness towards life partner, rights over husband to form her own family. these are some things which cant be compromised for some pervert thoughts to see excitement on television. NOT AT ALL

so true buddy

and its noe clear that its conspiracy and that what 99 % wanted.

yes this show has become so huge than a normal ordinary serial that it doesnt allow such illegitimate tracks

yes

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Srija Singh

@srija.singh04

Voyager

+ 4

Posted: 12 years ago

#129

Originally posted by: RickyBahl
Rima

iam always late on your post
but i was so devastated to see a post that supported that aarav shud be asr son biologically.
How can women want such things.
We are here to see a perfect love relation like heer ranjha, romeo-juiliet
.asr's virginity was never an issue. But to bring his past to haunt his love life, is it a good thought??? if its conspiracy we are ok but we never wanted that it shud be a true fact that that kid is his son.

why to assume that he has unprotected sex in his hay days , why cant we assume he has protected sex too. why to assume wrong things for the story??

if all things of daily life is to be counted and shown on TV then the Cv's from next day have to show asr getting up from bed, brushing teeth, going for shitting, even thats has to be shown .

Do u want to see that?? then why all are hell bent to bring past to spoil arshi relation.let it remain conspiracy.

How could people think that way that aarab shud be bought as asr kid just becoz he was a quite naughty in his college days .i was shocked???
For the sake of drama, have we forgottten some ideals and morals we hold sacred even in 21st century.
Some ppl tell that if that wud be asr kid, it wud be unintentional. so what if its unintentional.
we are here not to watch a madhur bhandarkar film about dark realities. we are here for a love story where every thing else can be imperfect but not the sanctity of arnav-khushi relation.

Its fact, accept or deny it sex is still forgiven, but sex byproduct from past relation crushes all.
some ppl want this son to be asr kid for separation and intensity.
But why didnt they demand that separation and intensity demanding cancelling remarriage. aand asking redemption. why they were silent then??? why now???

for separation and intensity we can have more ideas. How could ppl think that illegitimate track shud be used for intensity in reality will strenghthen arshi bond??? think practically. No way.

partner sexual loyalty, posesiveness towards life partner, rights over husband to form her own family. these are some things which cant be compromised for some pervert thoughts to see excitement on television. NOT AT ALL

All the examples-Heer- ranjha or Romeo-Juliet, that u mentioned r examples of unfulfilled love and I really hope, IPK doesn't go that road. Secondly refer to Gul's initial interviews, this was supposed to be an indian version of Mills and Boons story and if u havn't read any M&B yet, plz do cz then u'll know that in these stories morality and sex and not in direct corelation.

Secondly, about having protected sex (thanks heaven u r at least not scandalized at the idea of Arnav having a sex life B4 Khushi), all contraceptives offer only 98% guarantee, so d rest depends on fate. And hence fathering a baby and not knowing about him is a possibility, cz as is obvious Arnav had no idea about it, so lets not judge the boy.

Thirdly all media is a reflection of reality, remove the magic-plating from Harry Potter and it comes down to the normal life, and the human belief of d victory of good over evil. What matters in what aspects of reali life r u presenting and how u r doing that. So saying IPK reflects life in no way means that they should show the brushing of teeth daily.

Fourthy, Aarav being Arnav's son will not destroy Arshi relationship, cz the former was a thing of past and the latter that of present and future, they will come out of this maturer. What would destroy it is if Arnav resumes his relation with sheetal and that m sure he wouldn't so lets just stop being so narrowminded.

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Hiruni

@CDlove

Rocker

+ 8

Posted: 12 years ago

#130

Rima, what Arnav believed in the past is the past. He underwent a huge metomorphasis because and for Khushi. He might have believed and done things in the past he is not proud of.

It is not wrong to have a past and his belief system never told him that having sex outside marriage was wrong or indecent.

Now, he's married to Khushi, a commited man who will not even think of another woman.

So why do we think that Arnav and Khushi's love story will be tainted because of his past relationships? his and her love story was, is and will always be pure. Him or her having being physical before their time together would not affect the purity of what they are sharing now. I fail to see how Arnav's past relationships and the amount of physicality he shared with other women could affect his relationship with Khushi.

Arnav was never a perfect chocoloty hero who's first and only woman was Khushi and it's unfair to expect him to be portrayed as thus.

Khushi is the present and future. What he shared with other women is the past and will remain in the past.

I hate to pass judgment on people just because their ideologies doesn't tally with mine.

I might be against sex outside marriage but apparently Arnav wasn't. And I will not judge him because he differs from my perceptions and start calling him sick and disgusting.

About the petition, it's not wrong to voice your opinion if you dislike what you are watching.

But personally I feel we are going a tad too over board with these requests... it's not wrong to demand something but I hope the constant demandings and nagging will not ultimately have a negative and discouraging affect on the people producing the show.

Edited by CDlove - 12 years ago

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