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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arshi_rox

100% agree with u. arnav having sex with any lady except khushi, its totally not acceptable. no one will be able to digest it. period.

So according to U Arnav waited the 28 years of his life for some Khushi he never even knew existed in the first place. Do u see how stupid it is?????????
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: srija.singh04

So according to U Arnav waited the 28 years of his life for some Khushi he never even knew existed in the first place. Do u see how stupid it is?????????

Then again we r NOT watching a reality show called sach ka saamna.. we r watching a fictional love story where these things won't... I repeat won't go down well with the TRP audience..No amount of argument can change this fact...at the end of the day fact remains fact..
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: srija.singh04

Well for one I m all for Arnav's casual sexual relationships, cz the last I checked the show was not about morality or idealism, it is about about two ver different and very imperfect people falling in love. Arnav was never shown to be a very conventionally 'moral' person, why do u think they used the metaphor of The Beauty and The Beast.


Arnav in the past was a man who didn't believe in marriage or in a life long commitment and that was made very clear at many points, he has admitted these things himself. And he had a livein with La, what did he want that for? Playing Videogames? So for people who want that Arnav be shown all 'chaste' and 'pure' forget that Arnav was never supposed to be this, and such expectations have been nothing but illusions, and in that case the ones harbouring them r no better than, 'Delusional Di'. Yes if he were to get involved in any fling now, thats the end for me too, but as of now he is the best husband one could dream of and just exactly what is he being blamed for, that he didn't sit with a crystal ball waiting for Khushi???
Aarav may or may not be Arnav's son, that I am not concerned much with, what m concerned with though, is that this hero was supposed to be a Mills and Boons hero and this show nwver aimed at preaching conventional morality.

With Khushi had she been given a different background I would hav been all supportive of her premarital sex life, but the idea was to bring in a heroine who was completely different from our hero, in every single way. I know there r a lot of speculations about her age, but initially the show showd her as 18, so I'll go with it. So she is an 18 year old (just stepped in d domains of adulthood, while he is 28), lived with family all her life (so lack of opportunities, while he lived in Harvard, in a very different and liberal culture), Has always believed in true love and marriage (while he never did)... So on wat basis exactly u guys r making the comparison, this difference was the basis of the story.

PS: This is not a morality story, or a feminist story,, or one promoting patriarchy. This is a lovestory with all colors of life present, so please stop looking at it from one point or another, it curtails the creativity and kills the very very idea of what it was supposed to be.

well said. The bolded parts need a especial standing ovation 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: CDlove

Rima, what Arnav believed in the past is the past. He underwent a huge metomorphasis because and for Khushi. He might have believed and done things in the past he is not proud of.

It is not wrong to have a past and his belief system never told him that having sex outside marriage was wrong or indecent.
Now, he's married to Khushi, a commited man who will not even think of another woman.
So why do we think that Arnav and Khushi's love story will be tainted because of his past relationships? his and her love story was, is and will always be pure. Him or her having being physical before their time together would not affect the purity of what they are sharing now. I fail to see how Arnav's past relationships and the amount of physicality he shared with other women could affect his relationship with Khushi.
Arnav was never a perfect chocoloty hero who's first and only woman was Khushi and it's unfair to expect him to be portrayed as thus.
Khushi is the present and future. What he shared with other women is the past and will remain a past.
I hate to pass judgment on people just because their ideologies doesn't tally with mine.
I might be against sex outside marriage but apparently Arnav wasn't. And I will not judge him because he differs from my perceptions and start calling him sick and disgusting.
About the petition, it's not wrong to voice your opinion if you dislike what you are watching.
But personally I feel we are going a tad too over board with these requests... it's not wrong to demand something but I hope the constant demandings and nagging will not ultimately have a negative and discouraging affect on the people producing the show.

I completely agree with u. Judging someone for their past is wrong at so many levels. When people assume that Arnav was a virgin B4 Khushi they forget that d show is about the process of change in both Arnav's and Khushi's life. If they would have been perfect frm the begining the show wouln't have existed at all. And truly he was never portrayed along the lines of conventionality, his premarital relation with La is an example. So I think its better to see d show in totality than see every track individually, Arnav is close to perfect now (and wen I say perfect I mean conventionally so), but that in no ways means he was always the same.
And I do agree that petitions curtail the creative independence of the CV's and its too soon to make them anyway.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: monalisa1234

Then again we r NOT watching a reality show called sach ka saamna.. we r watching a fictional love story where these things won't... I repeat won't go down well with the TRP audience..No amount of argument can change this fact...at the end of the day fact remains fact..

TRP audience m not very sure of cz if m not wrong Kasauti Zindagi Ki was full of Illegitimate kids and the show ran miles, so lets not go there.
2ndly agreed its not a sach ka saamna, but every fiction is a take on reality, believe me M doing my Masters in Literature and I could bet my head on this, so here too we r served a plate of reality (I hope u do know that such things actually happen, condoms only 98% effective), what is left now is how well they use their imagination to garnish tis dish of reality now. So lets tuck our seatbelts now and get ready for the ride.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: srija.singh04

All the examples-Heer- ranjha or Romeo-Juliet, that u mentioned r examples of unfulfilled love and I really hope, IPK doesn't go that road. Secondly refer to Gul's initial interviews, this was supposed to be an indian version of Mills and Boons story and if u havn't read any M&B yet, plz do cz then u'll know that in these stories morality and sex and not in direct corelation.
Secondly, about having protected sex (thanks heaven u r at least not scandalized at the idea of Arnav having a sex life B4 Khushi), all contraceptives offer only 98% guarantee, so d rest depends on fate. And hence fathering a baby and not knowing about him is a possibility, cz as is obvious Arnav had no idea about it, so lets not judge the boy.

Thirdly all media is a reflection of reality, remove the magic-plating from Harry Potter and it comes down to the normal life, and the human belief of d victory of good over evil. What matters in what aspects of reali life r u presenting and how u r doing that. So saying IPK reflects life in no way means that they should show the brushing of teeth daily.

Fourthy, Aarav being Arnav's son will not destroy Arshi relationship, cz the former was a thing of past and the latter that of present and future, they will come out of this maturer. What would destroy it is if Arnav resumes his relation with sheetal and that m sure he wouldn't so lets just stop being so narrowminded.



I have read many love novels and M nd B too so i neednt need any suggestion on that front. I very well know what i can gurantee u no path breaking love story written on earth stands on illegitimate child relation of past. Past sexual affairs is no priblem and M n B had that but no iconic love stories will ever attempt that , Gul didnt say they are making M n B remake. she said
it has that love -hate element. there are may Mn B things that are not present. U better count them.
secondly iam advanced more than anyone but we are human beings at the end of the day. Whatever a lover may have doen in past still its hoped that may the past never haunt through a illegitimate child.

Why u wanna emphasize that he may hv unprotected sex, why we cant look it from another angle.
This love story is not a love story of any tom dick n harry .
In perfect love stories as i told above there is scope for past affairs but no scope for illegitimate child,It ruins the basic foundation.
iam from media and i very well know what reflection it has . Audiences want to see perfection in films and serials thats why at the end of a hindi film villain dies most times. Victory of goodness. . Wjat u said i agree about creative experimentation i agree, but IPK is a wrong subject for that. The characters are no longer fictional. People breathe these characters as if they are real life people. and fans cant still tolerate all trials nad tribulations but not this thing.
If life is not perfect atleats we dont want a perfect couple to lead a normal life.lets spare TV atleast.

Karan johar always made love stories the moment he made kabhi alvida na kehna he was criticised badly. People cudnt digest romantic lover as SRK in extra marital affair.
I have said IPK is build in a format that doesnt allow the love relation to be impacted by illegitimate relation. This is on any ordinary couple.

I REALLY PITY the narrrow mindness u have harboured. Just place urself in a situation. How much u love a person, an illegitimate child at the end of the day is an reminder of a bitter fact That existence will pinch forever .Khushi accepting a child as step mother is easier to say. But feel that as urself u will get the reply urself.

Arnav is not at fault but arnav will himself curse himself ,,for which he cant forgive himself ever.
And Khushi will move ahead with arnav and child but it will always be a blot ontheir pure love.

I said u some things cant be compromised at all.If u r a women u can feel that.
Only Khushi shud hv the privelege to bear arnav's child in her womb.
arnan may hv slept but this love story is iconic where ther is no scope for illegitimate track.
if it was another show i wudnt complain becoz that pair wud nt have that much of intense, pure passion as arshi has for each other.
they talk thru six sense
they go against their nature to accept each other.
they give away their lives for each other

But how can u expect such a pure love relation to be hampered by illegitimate track.
kkhushi willaccept the strp son but within she will cry and die thoudsand deaths.
we are ready for other issue of marital problems but not this
some things are just exclusive

So please come out of this mentality



This is no longer a Fictional character.
Ya its not about morality But why does morality awaken when arnav used to manhandle and misunderstood khushi.. But now we cant talk of morality . Morality issues seems very customized for some peoople for special occasions





Edited by RickyBahl - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: srija.singh04

I completely agree with u. Judging someone for their past is wrong at so many levels. When people assume that Arnav was a virgin B4 Khushi they forget that d show is about the process of change in both Arnav's and Khushi's life. If they would have been perfect frm the begining the show wouln't have existed at all. And truly he was never portrayed along the lines of conventionality, his premarital relation with La is an example. So I think its better to see d show in totality than see every track individually, Arnav is close to perfect now (and wen I say perfect I mean conventionally so), but that in no ways means he was always the same.
And I do agree that petitions curtail the creative independence of the CV's and its too soon to make them anyway.

Him not being portayed as a conventional hero was the one reason I fell in love with his character and story. Besides as you said, the story never intended to show a perfect love story or a perfect couple in a perfect huncky dory relationship. Arnav's actions were never perfect from the day 1 and we cannot expect him to be a perfect virgin who has saved himself for a wife he never even believed at that time. Bottom line, Arnav was not suppose to be perfect, untouched virgin!(again this is by the conventional standards). I for one will not judge anyone supporting or having pre marital sex.
At the end of the day it's about accepting to accept the fact that others have opinions that differ from yous. Why do we want to enforce our beliefs on others?
Arnav believed is pre marital sex. So be it. It doesn;t change anything in his and Khushi's relationship.
Edited by CDlove - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
You know, to the people who believe that Arnav was a virgin before - Sheetal's plan would never work then because both Arnav and Khushi would be aware that they were each other's firsts.
So the fact that Sheetal may be planning Aarav as Arnav's child means that Arnav was sexually active way before he met Khushi or Lavanya.

And he probably did have sex with Sheetal.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: CDlove

Rima, what Arnav believed in the past is the past. He underwent a huge metomorphasis because and for Khushi. He might have believed and done things in the past he is not proud of.

It is not wrong to have a past and his belief system never told him that having sex outside marriage was wrong or indecent.
Now, he's married to Khushi, a commited man who will not even think of another woman.
So why do we think that Arnav and Khushi's love story will be tainted because of his past relationships? his and her love story was, is and will always be pure. Him or her having being physical before their time together would not affect the purity of what they are sharing now. I fail to see how Arnav's past relationships and the amount of physicality he shared with other women could affect his relationship with Khushi.
Arnav was never a perfect chocoloty hero who's first and only woman was Khushi and it's unfair to expect him to be portrayed as thus.
Khushi is the present and future. What he shared with other women is the past and will remain in the past.
I hate to pass judgment on people just because their ideologies doesn't tally with mine.
I might be against sex outside marriage but apparently Arnav wasn't. And I will not judge him because he differs from my perceptions and start calling him sick and disgusting.
About the petition, it's not wrong to voice your opinion if you dislike what you are watching.
But personally I feel we are going a tad too over board with these requests... it's not wrong to demand something but I hope the constant demandings and nagging will not ultimately have a negative and discouraging affect on the people producing the show.


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