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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: ahttbar

Tia, that is a little unfair on Arnav. He has defended Khushi when she needed defending - in front of his grandmother. I don't think Khushi needed anyone to defend her today because no one believed Shyam anyway, It was a madman's depserate rant, the only one who was at the risk of believing him was Anjali, and the fact that she believed Khushi rather than Shyam without any prodding from Arnav was exactly the point.

Khushi and Arnav laid the evidence in front of Anjali and let her come to her own conclusions rather than forcing her to take their words over his. And I'm sorry, but being called characterless simply does not compare to being secretly fed abortion pills or thrown down a flight of stairs while heavily pregnant. Forget for a minute that Arnav-Khushi are the lead, and you will see that any sane human being would make it his priority to bring a victim like Anjali out of her delusion.


Tia's reply to your comment said everything.. but here are my two cents!

Khushi never needed defending in front of Dadi. Khushi has never needed defending! She doesn't care about insults, as long as the insults are not from Arnav. She made that very clear at the airport!

Anjali didn't believe Khushi. She saw the videos. She realized how big a fool she was. That's the only reason she lashed out at Shyam. She wasn't angry because Shyam killed her baby, she was angry because Shyam betrayed her. Didn't you hear her say that? But of course she wanted to put on an act to gain sympathy in front of her family, so she cried about her baby.. so everyone conveniently forgot that 1) she tried to kill her baby 2) she refused to eat and take medicines when she was pregnant 3) she danced around on glass pieces instead of sitting down to protect her baby .. she gave priority to Shyam, which is why she suffered. She never cared about the baby, her priority was always Shyam. That is why today suddenly she felt so shocked, because she realized what a big fool she was.

You want me to forget that Arnav and Khushi are the leads.. I forgot that a long time back. They are not the leads!

A brother will be concerned about his sister, yes... but then again no husband would stand to hear his wife being insulted! No husband would let his wife humiliate herself by begging to be believed.. If you were in Arnav's position.. what would you have done? He remained quiet and let everyone insult Khushi for the sake of his family.. I am sorry.. you think that is fine, because you don't have a man in your life.. that's all I can say. A woman doesn't need a man's support to live, but then again a woman doesn't need a man who cannot stand up for her when someone points fingers at her! Period.
Edited by boreddamsel - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: adithyan

u hav written everything...
ASR himself said his priority is still Di...
do u know what was in my mind when anji broke her mangalsutra...she broke it becauz she doesnt care abt its price..3 ya 5 lakh ...she doesnt care...i couldnt feel the punch of that scene...

khushi dont u dare to clear ur name in front of these ppl again...


Anjali did not care about the price of the mangalsutra because she did not have to work hard to pay for it.

Just like ASR never will realize Khushi's worth because he never had to work hard to get her love or her forgiveness.

You never value something you got for free.

For Anjali, it's money and her family's love, trust and support, the former she spent like water on Shyam and the later she did not care about when she wanted him back.

For Arnav, it was Khushi.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: S.Stephy

Well said!!

It seems like ASR's love for Khushi is restricted only to rabba ves.
- After the kidnapping track, when Shyam accused Khushi in front of everyone, ASR did not come to defend her. She had to beg and plead in front of everyone, and ASR slapped Shyam and threw him out as an afterthought but Khushi's name was never cleared in front of the family.
- When Khushi was accused in front of the family for not taking the pheras and living with ASR, then too ASR did not clear that it was his fault and that he was the one who forced her for the marriage.
- And again in today's epi, once again Khushi has to beg against Shyam's accusation... and no reaction from ASR!!
ASR has time and again proved that his wife's honour is nothing for him. Khushi is expected to play the part of a dutiful wife... keep the interests of the family above hers, support ASR whenever required, rabba ve with him, forget and forgive all the humiliation and accusations she has had to endure and then go back to her comedy tricks to cheer everyone up. She shouldn't be expecting any respect or justice... all this is shown as the nayi soch .


There is no Nayee Soch here. There are girls who were berating Khushi yesterday for performing with NK saying that she is characterless to first get close to Shyam and then getting close to NK.

Never mind the fact that the first she did to save ASR's butt which he got into trouble because of his own arrogance and the second she did to save ASR's sister and family's butt which they got into trouble because of their unwillingness to face the reality.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: sree07

Tia...My love theory



Arnav's priority is Anjali
Anjali's priority is Shyam
Shyam's Priority is Khushi
Khushi's priority is Arnav

Loop closed. Perfect Love cycle.


Perfect... What a theory... 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I completely agree with everything you have written so eloquently.

My father defends my mother so fiercely, you would think he's crazy! In fact, it's a well known fact, that nobody had better say a word against my mum, for whatever reason. And actually, that includes my siblings and I!! That my dad has to contend with two vastly differing cultures (Italian/Persian) is a feat of his love for my mum. He always says, without respect there can be no true and pure love.
I don't think Arnav has that for Kushi. I mean he says that he loves her more than life itself, but what's the point of lip service, no action??


Following is a reply to an earlier post:

But of course! We already know that Kushi will NEVER get the redemption she deserves from any of the people who purport to love her. Neither has her husband the spine to defend her, (hell! he can't even defend her for something like phatti saree, how will he defend her from a goon??) nor has the creep, Shyam the conscious to feel guilty or ashamed. Neither do any of the Guptas including Payal have the capacity to love her as one of their own, nor do any of the Raizadas have any respect for her. She's there only for what she can do for and give them. What they can take from her. Like I said before, she's like the incense that sacrifices by burning so that others can enjoy the pure fragrance of heaven.
The CVs hate Kushi so much that they are actually cutting off their noses to spite their faces! They are actually prepared to take the disgust thrown at them to demean Kushi! How spiteful!
I woe the day I got into this serial. The only reason I keep watching is I keep thinking (hoping against hope) that Kushi will one day get her due. That the CVs will finally see the light and make Kushi rise like the phoenix from the ashes. Yes, after all the shabby treatment she has received from Day One! Well, I can keep on dreaming, nah???...
But it's not that I get any pleasure from watching this serial. I'm like a junkie, now. I know this serial is no good, yet I can't stop myself!!!!!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏I am in love with and marrying your post. Is there anything left to add? I myself am frustrated with the way they write Arnav's loyalties when it comes to Anjali and Khushi! 😡
Khushi is always left standing to defend herself and take blame infront o everyone, yet she never stops loving and never stops forgiving. Nobody has shown yet that they are deserving of her love and IMO regardless of how much I love Arshi (and trust I am goo goo ga ga for them) I honestly believe that NK is the only who ever stands up for her. Classic example is Arnav still stays quiet when Manorama insults Khushi, who stood up for her against Manorama? NK that's who.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

You have something to say beyond IQ level 10? Sorry, I have difficulty understanding anything below normal IQ level.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: sbk2

Amazing post Tia!! 👏 👏


Beautifully worded.

My sympathy for Anjali went out the door, the day they started showing her completely unaffected by the truth that Arnav was kidnapped and nearly killed by Shyam - her character in the earlier episodes of IPK was adorable...she loved and doted over Arnav, always worried about his happiness. Even when she went through that accident planned by Shyam during the Payash wedding, she herself said she thought of her brother first...that elder sister has disappeared. Once her own world and life was in doldrums, she completely ignored her beloved "Chhotey" and the ordeal he went through (lets keep Khushi aside for now)
And as soon as her hubby was brought back, she went back to being the doting sister 😕
So she's a fair weather 'mother figure'?!!!

The writers have turned her character into a selfish and self absorbed person. I have no interest in seeing her onscreen anymore...



She is no mother figure to anyone. She did not even react to the fact that Shyam confessed to trying to murder her brother whom she considers her first baby, let alone her flesh and blood whom she killed because of her negligence. She may not be a murderer but she is an accessory to murder and guilty of aiding a murderer.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: kbtr

I completely agree with everything you have written so eloquently.


My father defends my mother so fiercely, you would think he's crazy! In fact, it's a well known fact, that nobody had better say a word against my mum, for whatever reason. And actually, that includes my siblings and I!! That my dad has to contend with two vastly differing cultures (Italian/Persian) is a feat of his love for my mum. He always says, without respect there can be no true and pure love.
I don't think Arnav has that for Kushi. I mean he says that he loves her more than life itself, but what's the point of lip service, no action??


Following is a reply to an earlier post:

But of course! We already know that Kushi will NEVER get the redemption she deserves from any of the people who purport to love her. Neither has her husband the spine to defend her, (hell! he can't even defend her for something like phatti saree, how will he defend her from a goon??) nor has the creep, Shyam the conscious to feel guilty or ashamed. Neither do any of the Guptas including Payal have the capacity to love her as one of their own, nor do any of the Raizadas have any respect for her. She's there only for what she can do for and give them. What they can take from her. Like I said before, she's like the incense that sacrifices by burning so that others can enjoy the pure fragrance of heaven.
The CVs hate Kushi so much that they are actually cutting off their noses to spite their faces! They are actually prepared to take the disgust thrown at them to demean Kushi! How spiteful!
I woe the day I got into this serial. The only reason I keep watching is I keep thinking (hoping against hope) that Kushi will one day get her due. That the CVs will finally see the light and make Kushi rise like the phoenix from the ashes. Yes, after all the shabby treatment she has received from Day One! Well, I can keep on dreaming, nah???...
But it's not that I get any pleasure from watching this serial. I'm like a junkie, now. I know this serial is no good, yet I can't stop myself!!!!!!!


First of all, let me congratulate you for having that kind of example to grow up with. You saw how your father made your mother a priority and I know you will settle for nothing less.

But unfortunately it's not story of every home. Because in India, we call the men who care for their wife "Jodu ka ghulam" means slave of wife and question their manhood. But the women who care for their husband is called "Patibrata" means devoted to husband and celebrate their womanhood.

Until this double standard exists in the society, no woman will ever have a husband who stands by her like your father did for your mother.

But I hope, you never settle for any less than your self-respect and dignity.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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well said again tia. i am glad you made a separate post on this because if we can help one teenager out there to realize what a woman's worth should be, then all the ranting is worth it.

khushi is an outsider for anjali as well. anjali could have hugged khushi and cried (who was standing right by her) but she falls back on arnav.

khushi is an outsider (compared to anjali) for arnav. people can say shit all about her and the man doesnt flex a muscle. someone mentioned the naintal trip in our other thread...and i was jolted.i had forgotten how arnav had beaten so many guys black and blue when khushi was a 'nobody' to him.

now shyam has flung mud on her name repeatedly, has made passes at khushi (we know arnav witnessed at least ONE of them - remember the holi episode..how can harvard brain not realize shyam lusts after her and can do anything...which includes anything!!), and tried to kill her. but arnav had only one slap on her behalf. and that was it.

the CVs are inculcating the servitude attitude in khushi - she will take shit from each and everyone at RM and doesnt speak up for herself any more. she has to beg anjali to believe her. why? is anjali deaf, dumb and blind? did she not see the proof, hear the admission of guilt? its funny everyone at RM was afraid of her reaction - they all realize how stupid she is and can be.

its just that anjali also realized how dumb she is. the mother pain thing doesnt work for me. anjali was only miffed cuz she stood by shyam and he made her look stupid. the pain of a mother does NOT apply to anjali at all. anyone who thinks otherwise, is in the same category of unfortunate souls who would like to have ASR as a husband.

btw guys what khushi suffered at the hands of shyam was: mental abuse, physical abuse and sexual assault. that trumps a miscarriage any day (only because we are talking of anjali as the mother here!)
Edited by aashi_82 - 12 years ago

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