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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: momma1128

res cuz I am gonna like it 😉


Edit - see I like it

I have had it quite honestly and although I loved the last bit where finally we are getting to a point where things are out in the open, the consistently inconsistent writing and emotional yo you effects are getting old.

I do like ASR because of all the characters his has been the most consistent (despite asking secretaries to give out quid pro quo offers and Sethi Bros due diligence gaffe not withstanding), his growth as been unfolding and more and more layers are peeled and explained. (of course, that doesn't mean he is the man of my dreams personality wise - but Barun Sobti as ASR is pretty spectacular - digression alert - I feel for this man because of how Barun makes him live).

These are the points which infuriate me -
1) Contract marriage for 6 months is a nice trick to get another wedding. These are not games. the whole institution of marriage is made a mockery of for TRPs. Great. I never knew walking out of a marriage would result in such gut busting (NOT) comedy. How does it even go to there from silent conversations of soulmates. How did it take this turn? Oh yes, contract marriage forced down the audiences throat after admissions of soulmates because we need a TRP wedding, because without a band baja baraat marriage cannot be sanctified.

2) Khushi Kumari Gupta does not show self respect when it comes to the time when she needs to show it. She balloons her ego/self respect/pride whatever when she is challenged by ASR partcularly about money (a real hot button topic with her) but I have seen this character get her ire up more because of a happy birthday than being called the reason for Shyam's wandering eye, being hit on in a house with her jijaji and never confiding in anyone, going back and playing charades with ASR after he ripped her heart out on diwali and now leaving the house not because he threw the contract in her face again but for Di. If KKG does not show gumption for herself and the writers do it over and over again having her stand up for everyone else but herself when she needs to, I can not very well go on and think her to be a trailblazer for change. This is how she is. She fell in love with ASR despite all of the "crimes" against her, so if miya biwi raazi, who am I. My real problem is when they package it as self sacrifice and try to sell it off as self righteous bashan either in front of DM or Payal or whomever. Seems a little hypocritical if you ask me but then again, I drool what do I know.

The feelings are there and short lived. Then somehow some way, the tracks are derailed into nonsensical gibberish and ludicrous situations, characters are forced to behave in ways that don't make any sense based on their previous experiences and we collectively scratch our heads and say what the? It is a love story where there have been some deep conversations. They lost the connection when the pretended like those never happened. It's time for the truth because I can't take anymore levity about marriages ending and hearts breaking, while pregnant delusional sisters are plotting to meet their murdering husbands while mourning the loss of her priority in her brother's life. Did that last bit sound like a comedy?? yeah, that's why they've lost it.

Anu😃
Thanks so much...I loved your response ...and you by now know I much respect your views so I think you know...
A big DITTO to the first two paras... the consistently inconsistent writing and emotional yo yo effects are indeed repetitive...Saving grace for me too is Mr Sobti, whose acting despite a thankless scripting and characterisation is on the spot!
Now for your points...much agree and here is my two pence worth
a) On point 1, there are marriages where the stuff between the couple is crude but the facade is happy and cheery...and there are relationships which stay and nurture for life...with no wedding band
For me the entire u-turn on contract dialogue after the poolside hug is amockery of the ARHI love...but it gets repetitive Rabba Ves and maybe a chance at a SP sponsored wedding
b) On point 2 ...Ditto to every word...when she herself is loathe to fight back Shyam and eager to go back to ASR then the joke is on us for chanting naari shakti...so then when they go the familiar tee nee nee nee and make her look bechari for two episodes and a jumping bunny for the next two ...both her bechari state and happy go lucky sacrifice state seems like a self absorbed hypocracy
c) On point 3...again it comes back to what I was saying onn the zindagi post the other day...this ship needs its captain (read Madame Gul Sir Arshad and Sir Rajesh) to take charge and make radical changes if need be...because the two minutes of love followed by 200 minutes of utterly disjointed scripting does no one any good...that it is done with a sacrifice or alternatively passion twinge...is disappointing
Thanks again, much appreciate it😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks much😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: amisuv

So manipulation and refusal to accept responsibility is sacrifice...but when a person accepts responsibility of his ill actions and says he made a mistake to misunderstand the love of his life... the script does not even consider him human enough to err

Awesome post JW 👏 👏 The script not at fault, but the channel which has glorified all the acts of its heroines since the daily soap era began. The only saving grace with IPK is that the Hero or Antihero as some may like to call him, has been shown a real human, somebody we can relate to & is not sidelined as only a bhai, pati or damaad as is the fate of male leads in most of the other shows.

Amisuv😊
Hope you are well and thanks much
You are spot on!!...In fact I feel ASR's charactersation is crisp but the script does him no ggood most times ...his is not the author backed role here...and therefore the effforts of the lead to bring it a humane dimension with all the warts and the wows is amazing
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shilpa.guptha

wow I liked this post...

Thanks much😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arsh_sp

JW everyone has to read this post its not at all biased..loved each and everything you wrote and yes defnitely missed you

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: dillidikudi

Agreed on this part...JW you were missed. 😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Amazing post JW... N its realy d 'sach ka saamna'.

However the Channel promote it or the Script relishes it, the Kushi Kumari Gupta we saw for 300 odd episods is by no means an 'innocent victim'.

And if they now want to force feed that into us, chanting d slogan 'Script ke Liye' or 'SP ke liye', KKG's character remains d sore thumb. 'Naa ithar ka, naa uthar ka'.

Inspite of being d 'ruthless hero', Barun Sobti has made Arnav, the 'heart' of d show... N thats where my heart stands.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arsh_sp

JW everyone has to read this post its not at all biased..loved each and everything you wrote and yes defnitely missed you

Thanks much arsh...appreciate this😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: kushikumari


JWMRK, you rock! So glad you said everything you did!

Want to add one more thing to Kushi's not-so-great list: respect towards money. i find no good reason to downplay the importance of money in a person's life. It provides shelter, food, clothing, education, whatever one requires for survival, or for enjoying life. And, it usually never comes easy, not so in ASR's case, and definitely not so in Kushi's case. So, why the casual or mocking attitude towards it?

I agree with your take off on both, especially Kushi. For all the sympathy one is supposed to muster towards her, she does make it difficult to do, simply because her dignity and self respect are non-existent.
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Thanks much😊
Appreciate it...and loved the part in bold ...those who know how difficut it is to earn a dime will perhaps never do this.
But when dignity of labour is to earn money in fun and games the words fail😆😆...Once thinks money can buy everyhing, the other claims cannot but conveniently uses the same money as if its her right.
So again equals in their disregard for life...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutebarun

Amazing post JW... N its realy d 'sach ka saamna'.

However the Channel promote it or the Script relishes it, the Kushi Kumari Gupta we saw for 300 odd episods is by no means an 'innocent victim'.

And if they now want to force feed that into us, chanting d slogan 'Script ke Liye' or 'SP ke liye', KKG's character remains d sore thumb. 'Naa ithar ka, naa uthar ka'.

Inspite of being d 'ruthless hero', Barun Sobti has made Arnav, the 'heart' of d show... N thats where my heart stands.

Thanks much😊

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