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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey JW!!Missed you and superb post once again!!🤗How many times will you hit the nail on the head???😆

about ASR agree with you!! He is heart mind and soul of the show. Coz khushi has no mind to spare😆*ducking from chappals*

No matter how many times ASR rages, yells and hurts others we dont mind because we know he has a conscience and its been proven time and again. So we wait , we feel for him and with him and know will he correct himself when he errs.

With Khushi she has always been innocently manipulative but I didnt mind that in the beginning because we as viewers know that the growing up stage comes later. Now I'm just left with annoyance because I dont trust her to grow up at all.Even she already has donned her Nancy Drew cap!!😆

Anyway you said it all!! nothing more add!! brilliant post!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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BRAVO 👏👏👏
The only saving grace of IPK is Arnav Singh Raizada, imperfect & completely human😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JWMRK

a) Sach kya hai?
The beauty of this serial, when it gets it right is that its leads are in a way mirror images of each other...to me both equally wrong and equally right ..thats is if there is indeed a definition of wrong or right when it comes to life😳😳...both are flawed, both seeking love, hope and peace...and both on the verge of loosing every thing they have. Both suffer from massive insecurities, both have egos and both play around with a variety of lives...Anjali and Payash being a case in point.
Its just their style of playing around that is different. One plays around using his money and charm, the other plays around assuming her higher moral ground and a comic stance...Both forgetting that lives and emotions are not to be played around with.
I understandthe need for thrills and TRPs...but is this the soch nayi!!...I remember my post when I criticised ASR for dragging Khushi and getting her married (or whatever you call it)...but at the same time the peron who allows an injustice is perhaps as responsible, if not guilty, as the person who inflicts it.

c) A lie that saves lives is better than truth...but a repeated web of lies isnt...so then why is misunderstanding a crime
Lie about the marriage, lie about leaving RM, now lie about divorce...what will it achieve??...and who is manipulating the lives of not just herself (which she is entitled to) but also of her family...Why all these lies?...to show comic scenes where Khushi hates Laad Governer ...and quickly two episodes later there is that familiar "tee nee nee nee" sad music track...and she loves ASR and is sacrificing.
And while we are on the subject of lies, there is no remorse of holding the Shyam truth initially from the Raizadas and Anjali...because again, thanks to convenient scripting that is shown as sacrifice for ...yup... family😆
So manipulation and refusal to accept responsibility is sacrifice...but when a person accepts responsibility of his ill actions and says he made a mistake to misunderstand the love of his life... the script does not even consider him human enough to err😆😆
d) Kisi ka khoon khoon ...kisi ka khoon paani
I have never understood what an Anti hero is...anti means the unlike, opposite...so then he is a villian isnt it...but if yes then discard him completely at some time and move on!!
Yes ASR has erred often in treating Khushi, but to me so has Khushi...ASR makes her pack gifts "and that makes him a vile horrid man"...Khushi makes him take a soap covered bath without water...and then publicly shames his right to dignity by making him parade semi nude, "but that makes her action cute and comic"😆😆. ASR ask her to fulfill conditions, "of course he is an abuser", Khushi makes him repair a variety of machinery, eat a variety of low calorie food, struggle to get into a loo...but she is Khushi so "oh how cute she is abused na so she is trying to get back". ASR calls her TV, "what a venom filled mouth", Khushi calls him Swamiji with contempt..."but thats just cute love!!"...ASR abuses her in the open so "he is a MCP", Khushi goes to his office and embarresses him...time and again, sometimes the swami, sometimes the dabba, sometings the shouting...but again she is a woman, how can she ever be wrong..."hail Naari shakti"😆😆
When ASR is out of line...flog him...when Khushi is out of line...flog the script😃...Jai Ho!!...I get the point Chaar Singham that this serial will always be about a woman winning...what about humanity winning??...
And no I am not talking about ASR here...If ASR is your anti hero...that means a negative character...and you want to show Khushi winning,...then let her win where it matters...by discarding him for good and not because of Kabhi Payash, Kabhi Di, Kabhi Family. That is a soch nahi...not these Tom and Jerry games, which may satisfy an urge to flog ASR, but when you see it objectively is joked upon by Khushi's characterisation istelf in going time and again back to him.
e) Raavan har saal aata hai aur jal bhi jaata hai
What is so vile in ASR which was not vile in the first two months of this serial?...This is the same ASR who when he was Khushi's boss and pinned her against a wall...but that was hot passion!!😆😆...(when in reality it is workplace harrassment!)...This is the same ASR who after almost kissing her and getting significantly aroused himself...went and announced an engagement with La...but we thought that was the most passionate Jaadu hai scene ever. 😆...😆This is the same ASR who when he decided to brutally drag Khushi and got married to her...we thought it was a build up to a great marriage love story. This is the same ASR who when he pushed, shoved, muscled his way to Khushi all the time...we thought this was the best chemistry ever...whats the word...ya right Passion😆😆😆
So today when he is giving a few more paper thin dhamkis, what is different??...he is still the same ASR, if the script would care to consider😳
I am not defending ASR...and he is not my definition of an ideal man😳...But then it comes back to the drawing board and one has to be fair...The script wants to use the same ASR to serenade and moon over in assorted fantasies when things are for TRP led passion...and conveniently turn and make him an abuser time and again😆
f) "Sita bhi yahaan badnaam hui" is poignant and hard hitting because she was Sita
Khushi is conveniently scripted as bechari...conveniently scripted as just wanting to have fun...conveniently scripted as sacrificing...then if thats the noble idea of this script whats there to compain when Khushi herself does not take her life seriously and respectfully.😆😆
This is the same Khushi who after having been thrown out of the first floor of an office chose to work in the same house (no self respect)...This is the same Khushi who after having been told a gazillion times that she is a gold digger, went back to the man and his family...(again no self respect)...This is the same Khushi...who after being aroused and left to dry out by the poolside...chose to not utilise the time to re-skill or be independant but who thought it fit enough to give cooking and stitching lessons to the same man's girlfriend😕...(no attept and recognising ones own dignity) And this is the same Khushi who after having been cheated by a man, still chose to remain silent only to be dragged like a hopeless goat or cattle and got married and is now trying to honor it😕...or wait not honor it😕
So why add convenient scripting to show her as being her being abused??😳😳...when two days later she is going to brush it off eating gol gappes and hurray...for the cause of the Rabba Ves go back to the same man😆😆
I am a woman and if there is something my family thought me it was Dignity of being a person, value of education and the ability to stand up for yourself. One who chooses to tolerate injustice and abuse is as flawed as one who decides to inflict injustice and abuse😳
Again I have always wanted and highlighted that Khushi should live for herself, be a girl who respects herself...but no...the script seems to think that showing her do all of the above...counts for great passion and being an ideal lover and wife
G) Some introspection here...
Chaar Singham, its your story take it the way you want
But if this is a love story...then there have to be three critical things here...(1) Love by being with and supporting each other, (2) Both respecting the relationship...and not make turnarounds for comedy or drama or to bring villians back and (3) A "Thehraav" ...a stability, having people in love who connect...like they did by the poolside after the Shyam revelation
And if this is not a love story but a story about a women's right then it needs two things:
1. Khushi should lead an independent decent life away from Shyam and ASR
2. Anjali should lead an independent decent life away from Shyam...and not perennially depending on ASR
The sach here is that showing the above requires guts and belief in your product...No Guts ...No Glory😳



JW 🤗 Where have you been? Have I missed some of your posts? But then I have not been around as well. Hope you are doing well.

I loved your whole post but in a hurry so not sure what parts I chose here😕.

@ purple - I think it is SP nayi soch here not as much chaar singham.

@ pink - again this is sooo SP and their employees ki nayi soch, lack of creativity!!

My mom is visiting from India and she was horrified to hear that I watch anything on SP😳😳😳😳 😆 She contributes to TRPs as well.

Got to go.

Happy Fraandship day my Dilli wali dost🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey there,
yup missed your posts. was wondering if it was becuase i am not on IF that much
i actually thought all the recent behaviour from ASR in forcing Khushi to come back to RM was v much in character and normal. and all that you say, I agree but I assume again that the directors are still showing that journey of all the flawed characters growing up.
no idea if it will happen though...

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