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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: cutebarun

@dmgloverforever...

Dear, we understand what u r saying and we knw the best thing is to ignore such comments.

I appreciate you for condemning the derogatory coments made against a 'bro sis'...despite having a difference of opinion abt the show. Thats realy sweet of u. N thats the kind of people we r expecting support frm. Majority of us in d thread, understand Arnav anjali n hav a soft corner for them. Bt, u seem to be having a different stand n that is okay n we respect that.. So there r more chances dat u come across such coments, than we who wont go thru a thread against Anjali n Arnav. N next time, when u see a 'bad coment' there, you can make a difference, with much bigger impact than we have.

We always hav d opertunity to report such coments, bt before that is implementd the threads progress a lot. I'm fine with criticising characters. We all do that. Bt, most of d times, actors n their personal life r brought in. As we are in the confinement of our 'lappy' or phone and in the shells of our office or room, while making coments in d forum, we may feel it as a closed secret space, where we can tel anything. Thats y most of d times 'pm' n 'a post in d main forum' appears same to us.

And we end up saying things that we will never ever even think of saying in real life. As we all knw, the cast,crew or their friends of Ipk, do visit d forum. Character criticism may not affect them much as they r mature people. Bt, insults that get into personal life, wil hurt any person and ugly coments against a bro-sis, or 'father daughter relation as 'physical', wil paint the whole forum in a 'bad light'. Many net users who r not members, visit here n they dont realy think of our 'user id' or pov, when they feel a sore taste abt all of us, merely bcoz of a few topics.

This thread only to get the attention of members, so that they can discourage such coments, without targetting or abusing members who made those topics. Those might hav been made in d heat of d moment, that happens, we are all humans...and there is no right for us to call them names, bcoz we too make mistakes, perhaps much bigger than this.

This is only to remind all of us, what we coment in d spur of a moment may severly hurt another 'real person' somwhere in d world.

We appreciate your support and expect it in future too..👍🏼

@bold -Hope people understand this statement
wonderful reply jachu...👏
Edited by riti4u - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
i love my brothers as much as i love my sisters and yes, we shared bonds like this and i find nothing gross to it too ..

i really like ANJALI AND ASR sibling bonds .. not many ppl has the privilege to have such good relationship .. especially when there's just two of them left (beside akash)
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: payasa


hey sharmi n barun x...
few cents from me here..

do you really see selfishness her girls? right from the beggining, anjali was showcased as a sweet person trying to be happy and good to all. if she is manipulative, or smetimes stubbern, it is always for the good and out of love for the family members...

now that she is in a critical situation, it does make sense to be sad..

if she says to arnav that, you are in love and you have forgotten..thinking that he lied to her,.then it is a sinking feeling that she is not wanted by him like before,after all sharing such close bond, if she finds him at home, that is natural reaction. it does not mean that she doesnot like him to be in love...

what made it cringy is a dear sister suffering on one side and a dear brother romancing on the other side with his ever annoyed wife in open...it should have been private considering the gloomy situation at RM...can this be believable.? considering the bond bro-sis share.
just to bring out all that wooing..the situation was made messy..

edited..

all forum members say that anjali is weak/ handicapped emotionally and physically...

everybody in the world are weak in some or the other aspect...
if anjali believes in god n performs pooja's, it her way of assurance to herself..if people believe in god , then it a kind of moral support that boosts their life.
.then why do you think khushi every now n then speaks to DM. becoz it gives strength n build up confidence that there is somebody up there who can support you n protect you..it is psychology.

i saw lot of discussion on dependency of anjali on arnav...
it is not unnatural for a person to depend on their loved ones. infact you expect more from your loved ones...if that is called dependency, then evrybody are dependent on every body in their tough times..



Hey Payasa!

I understand that she is a very sweet and caring person and also I understand that she is insecure about bond between herself and brother may be affected
but there r certain aspects of her character that makes me dislike her sometimes...SHe is emotionally weak person and she never tries to face the reality (I say this because whenever some problem arises she chooses 2 "baad mein dekh lenge"instead of analyzing the situation)

No one is perfect and I don't think its wrong to be stubborn,manipulative etc...She has lied to have her way with(like not taking food for cancelling Sangeet)...In real life we all are like that...so I don't think its wrong

May be they should have kept all celebrations private, but they cannot predict that the family is going to return so soon...and she was also hurt by their private celebration too(say, when she barged into their room during cake cutting in private)

There are certain things they make Anjali to do, to make her an insecure, always in need(I mean always)...Its very difficult for a woman to accept that her sugary sweet husband is a cheater and more difficult to share the roof with the same woman that accused her husband...here the entire family fawns over her...ANd her brother too is not ignoring her

And more than just dependent she is clingy, I think more than emotional support to her brother she is his weakness(I don't blame her,given that her past)... I just want her character to show growth...


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Posted: 13 years ago

@cindrella255- Hi sharmi... just thought of adding my two cents for Anjali too.. See I understand your reason when you say she is her brother's weakness and should be her strength but I think if we find her clingy then that is also because of overprotectiveness around her too... she was allowed to be in her happy bubble for long by her brother even when he came to know truth about her husband..and ultimately decided to take decision on her life without even once asking or considering her or say taking her into confidence...First few days she was confused at what was happening as arnav had till then not stated the complete reason for his action... It was her life that everyone took decision for and in one instance all things changed for her and she was not given any chance to understand what went wrong..shyam was shown from the start that he was nice to her always and provided her with what she always wanted ..and when all of sudden you are out of that important relation in your life..you get a huge setback..At that time if the one person who you need beside you is not there and fear of loosing another one just sets in..it is not at all jealousy but a fear -fear of abandonment...

Anyways this topic was bro-sis relation and need for that to be respected... i think we deviated from it...will have another thread for that...😉
Take care😳
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

@cindrella255- Hi sharmi... just thought of adding my two cents for Anjali too.. See I understand your reason when you say she is her brother's weakness and should be her strength but I think if we find her clingy then that is also because of overprotectiveness around her too... she was allowed to be in her happy bubble for long by her brother even when he came to know truth about her husband..and ultimately decided to take decision on her life without even once asking or considering her or say taking her into confidence...First few days she was confused at what was happening as arnav had till then not stated the complete reason for his action... It was her life that everyone took decision for and in one instance all things changed for her and she was not given any chance to understand what went wrong..shyam was shown from the start that he was nice to her always and provided her with what she always wanted ..and when all of sudden you are out of that important relation in your life..you get a huge setback..At that time if the one person who you need beside you is not there and fear of loosing another one just sets in..it is not at all jealousy but a fear -fear of abandonment...

Anyways this topic was bro-sis relation and need for that to be respected... i think we deviated from it...will have another thread for that...😉
Take care😳



Hey riti! Yes that's y I say I don't blame...if she was kept in dark everyone is to blamed including Khushi
We are yet to know that at what circumstances Anjali-SHyam marriage took place...It could have been entirely her decision...May be Shyam could have manipulated her, as she was easy source of income...She might have fallen for the bait...And it s easy for an emotionally weak women to fall when someone claims her to be his world...
Shyam was not a goody two shoes until he fell for the doe-eyed beauty due to seven years itch...Even b4 he obsessed for Khushi , he has lied 2 her... So yeah, I think he enacted a well planned drama in RM

I don't think she is jealous...Sorry, if I made any such statement...

geez, I m digressing and spamming...sorry TM😳
Edited by cindrella255 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
completely agree with you!!. people should respect the relationship. I am not even sure why people see wrong in such actions, such as hugging your siblings which is soo common in a normal healthy family.






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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: payasa


hey sharmi n barun x...
few cents from me here..

do you really see selfishness her girls? right from the beggining, anjali was showcased as a sweet person trying to be happy and good to all. if she is manipulative, or smetimes stubbern, it is always for the good and out of love for the family members...

now that she is in a critical situation, it does make sense to be sad..

if she says to arnav that, you are in love and you have forgotten..thinking that he lied to her,.then it is a sinking feeling that she is not wanted by him like before,after all sharing such close bond, if she finds him at home, that is natural reaction. it does not mean that she doesnot like him to be in love...

what made it cringy is a dear sister suffering on one side and a dear brother romancing on the other side with his ever annoyed wife in open...it should have been private considering the gloomy situation at RM...can this be believable.? considering the bond bro-sis share.
just to bring out all that wooing..the situation was made messy..

edited..

all forum members say that anjali is weak/ handicapped emotionally and physically...

everybody in the world are weak in some or the other aspect...
if anjali believes in god n performs pooja's, it her way of assurance to herself..if people believe in god , then it a kind of moral support that boosts their life.
.then why do you think khushi every now n then speaks to DM. becoz it gives strength n build up confidence that there is somebody up there who can support you n protect you..it is psychology.

i saw lot of discussion on dependency of anjali on arnav...
it is not unnatural for a person to depend on their loved ones. infact you expect more from your loved ones...if that is called dependency, then evrybody are dependent on every body in their tough times..



Hey teju, very well said dear !!!👏👏👏👏

The reaction Anjali gave was very well understandable neither that makes her selfish. I have said this in some other thread also which was on this very topic.

In fact I had always felt that Arrnav was wrong in celebrating Khushi's b'day openly when just a day b4 he had witnessed his di on the verge of committing suicide/abortion. Wasn't he the same person who saw it all with his own eyes, then how could he just ignore the whole thing within a single day ?? I had received comments that he was celebrating it in his bedroom and it was not wrong to celebrate the b'day of his beloved wife.

Well from my POV, he could have celebrated it anywhere in whole Delhi other than RM where Anjali was in her tragic best phase of life. If Khushi had refused to go with him then NK could have taken her to the place where Arnav would have planned a surprise, Khushi wouldn't have ever said no to NK !!!!!
Anjali atleast deserves that much concern from one of the most important persons of her life when she needed him the most. He is the same person who till a few days back was ready to fight the world just to bring a smile on her face, and when she actually needed him, he was seen to be enjoying his life totally oblivious of the pain she was going through.

Secondly, the floral carpet thing. He got the call in front of her and with her insistence only he went for the meeting. She would have liked him to accompany her but decided to forego her happiness because of his work commitment. Now when she returns she saw that he was busy drawing up floral carpet for his wife, and was trying to get cozy with her. What is she suppose to make out given the drastic change in Arnav she had been witnessing over the last few days?

And I can't buy the argument ppl use to give that why she does believe Shyam and not Khushi. My question is why should she believe Khushi, a girl whom she knows for just over a year and who doesn't have any proof of her allegations, in favor of a husband whom Anjali loved and revered for many years ? Just like the way Arnav chose to believe Khushi coz he loved her, Anjali chose to believe Shyam coz she loved him. She is entitled to believe him till there is no proof against him. We have seen the bad face of Shyam but not she. Since he is portrayed as a villain we love to hate him, if his actions were not shown so explicitly and had been shown to be done for the sake of some greater good then surely we wouldn't have hated him this much. People would have termed his deeds as mistakes rather than calling them crimes !!!


The good thing that was shown in the whole issue was there was no hiding or lying business atleast between these siblings. She told him what she felt and he could realize where he had gone wrong.

Now coming to the emotional dependence part. The past has not yet been shown but the fbs suggest that it was traumatic. It was traumatic enough to change Arnav to ASR, to make a kid brother grow up overnite and take charge of the lives of his and his elder sister. So it is expected that they are emotionally dependent on each other very strongly. Being orphan is one thing but witnessing ur parents being murdered or committing suicide in front of ur eyes is a different thing. One can't forget it ever coz it scars the soul and the psyche !!

The dependence was not only from Anjali's side, it was from Arnav's side as well. Both of them together had made a world for their survival where Anjali was the emotional aspect and ASR the practical aspect. Without Anjali there wouldn't have been an ASR, Arnav would have been another name in the list of orphans who got lost in the crowd of the world. It is her presence which kept him going.

We have seen his emotional dependence on Anjali also. What with the pre rakhi scene and Anjali's accident episode. The so called 'hard nut to crack' ASR was in perpetual panic mode of loosing her. It had alws been she who could see through his cold exterior and in front of whom he could let go of ASR and become that 15 yrs old Arnav again !!!

Even the toughest man/woman does have somebody in their lives in front whom they can be themselves, on whom they r emotionally dependent !!!!


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Posted: 13 years ago

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Hey teju, very well said dear !!!👏👏👏👏

The reaction Anjali gave was very well understandable neither that makes her selfish. I have said this in some other thread also which was on this very topic.

In fact I had always felt that Arrnav was wrong in celebrating Khushi's b'day openly when just a day b4 he had witnessed his di on the verge of committing suicide/abortion. Wasn't he the same person who saw it all with his own eyes, then how could he just ignore the whole thing within a single day ?? I had received comments that he was celebrating it in his bedroom and it was not wrong to celebrate the b'day of his beloved wife.

Well from my POV, he could have celebrated it anywhere in whole Delhi other than RM where Anjali was in her tragic best phase of life. If Khushi had refused to go with him then NK could have taken her to the place where Arnav would have planned a surprise, Khushi wouldn't have ever said no to NK !!!!!
Anjali atleast deserves that much concern from one of the most important persons of her life when she needed him the most. He is the same person who till a few days back was ready to fight the world just to bring a smile on her face, and when she actually needed him, he was seen to be enjoying his life totally oblivious of the pain she was going through.

Secondly, the floral carpet thing. He got the call in front of her and with her insistence only he went for the meeting. She would have liked him to accompany her but decided to forego her happiness because of his work commitment. Now when she returns she saw that he was busy drawing up floral carpet for his wife, and was trying to get cozy with her. What is she suppose to make out given the drastic change in Arnav she had been witnessing over the last few days?

And I can't buy the argument ppl use to give that why she does believe Shyam and not Khushi. My question is why should she believe Khushi, a girl whom she knows for just over a year and who doesn't have any proof of her allegations, in favor of a husband whom Anjali loved and revered for many years ? Just like the way Arnav chose to believe Khushi coz he loved her, Anjali chose to believe Shyam coz she loved him. She is entitled to believe him till there is no proof against him. We have seen the bad face of Shyam but not she. Since he is portrayed as a villain we love to hate him, if his actions were not shown so explicitly and had been shown to be done for the sake of some greater good then surely we wouldn't have hated him this much. People would have termed his deeds as mistakes rather than calling them crimes !!!


The good thing that was shown in the whole issue was there was no hiding or lying business atleast between these siblings. She told him what she felt and he could realize where he had gone wrong.

Now coming to the emotional dependence part. The past has not yet been shown but the fbs suggest that it was traumatic. It was traumatic enough to change Arnav to ASR, to make a kid brother grow up overnite and take charge of the lives of his and his elder sister. So it is expected that they are emotionally dependent on each other very strongly. Being orphan is one thing but witnessing ur parents being murdered or committing suicide in front of ur eyes is a different thing. One can't forget it ever coz it scars the soul and the psyche !!

The dependence was not only from Anjali's side, it was from Arnav's side as well. Both of them together had made a world for their survival where Anjali was the emotional aspect and ASR the practical aspect. Without Anjali there wouldn't have been an ASR, Arnav would have been another name in the list of orphans who got lost in the crowd of the world. It is her presence which kept him going.

We have seen his emotional dependence on Anjali also. What with the pre rakhi scene and Anjali's accident episode. The so called 'hard nut to crack' ASR was in perpetual panic mode of loosing her. It had alws been she who could see through his cold exterior and in front of whom he could let go of ASR and become that 15 yrs old Arnav again !!!

Even the toughest man/woman does have somebody in their lives in front whom they can be themselves, on whom they r emotionally dependent !!!!


ClapClap as I mentioned in my post for Anjali too madhu- it was always anjali that showed us arnav inside ASR at start of episode...khushi came much later... he he we are turning out to be Anjali's supporter..😆 but great points dear..Clap
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

👏👏 as I mentioned in my post for Anjali too madhu- it was always anjali that showed us arnav inside ASR at start of episode...khushi came much later... he he we are turning out to be Anjali's supporter..😆 but great points dear..👏



Thanx riti 🤗.
I m ready to be Anjali's supporter till she doesn't land up with the lying and hiding business specially from Arnav !! 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

@cindrella255- Hi sharmi... just thought of adding my two cents for Anjali too.. See I understand your reason when you say she is her brother's weakness and should be her strength but I think if we find her clingy then that is also because of overprotectiveness around her too... she was allowed to be in her happy bubble for long by her brother even when he came to know truth about her husband..and ultimately decided to take decision on her life without even once asking or considering her or say taking her into confidence...First few days she was confused at what was happening as arnav had till then not stated the complete reason for his action... It was her life that everyone took decision for and in one instance all things changed for her and she was not given any chance to understand what went wrong..shyam was shown from the start that he was nice to her always and provided her with what she always wanted ..and when all of sudden you are out of that important relation in your life..you get a huge setback..At that time if the one person who you need beside you is not there and fear of loosing another one just sets in..it is not at all jealousy but a fear -fear of abandonment...

Anyways this topic was bro-sis relation and need for that to be respected... i think we deviated from it...will have another thread for that...😉
Take care😳



Hey riti, right u r !! Anjali never learnt to walk coz she was never allowed to walk independently. Everytime whenever she looked around there was always Arnav holding her hand. And as u mentioned even the decision of chuking out Shyam out of her life was also single handedly taken by Arnav. He chose to act based on the sole basis of his trust on Khushi, without giving any explanation to Anjali. Since we have not seen the past yet, we can't say whether Arnav was right to decide it himself. May be he was right coz he knows his sister well and also her incapability of decision making !!! One more thing was, the kind of mental status Anjali was in on the day Shyam was thrown out of RM, it was doubtful whether she was in a position to make a rational judgement, specially when she was not used decision makings !!! Arnav coulnd't have taken a chance by letting Shyam stay back in the life of his sister even if she had wanted.

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