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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: sampin

The problem lies with Sanaya,I guess.Maybe taking the show almost on her own for a month is taking a toll.But I've always felt that Sanaya can't emote.Yes maybe her character has been very bubbly,chirpy and she was never given too many emotional scenes..But I still am pretty surprised at the way she's giving her reactions to Arnav's kidnapping..The CV's must give her more scenes like-KHUSHI REMEMBERING ABOUT ARNAV,THEIR FIGHTS,THEIR CONVERSATIONS..This is pretty normal for a young wife..Then maybe holding Arnav's shirts,remembering about him..CV's need to give her such scenes..so she grows as an actor!!

Yes I agree it must be very stressful for her to take whole show for one month on her shoulder...there I say that focus should also have gone to anjali for a change...I mean give her dues too..she is fab actress..they cud have shown her scenes where she is worrying about chotte.. this need not be whole khushi thing here..they cud have focussed on shyam's plan a bit more...so I really sympathise with sanaya fr taking whole burden here.. I agree to your point ..I was too hoping fr a scene where she holds arnie shirt ..or even wear it...😆 ..remember how they showed arnie missin khushi..when he didnt see khushi jst fr 2 days... they do show in between CIDgiri though..but it looses impact...
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Posted: 13 years ago
Awesome redux. But honestly, the editing of the episodes has ruined a lot for me lately 🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ranjitha

Ahha tippani on Khushi.. can I hope in and put in my views?

I have said this before too on REDUX.. I connect with Arnav naturally, but I always strive to understand Khushi... Arnav speaks less, yet I understand him whereas Khushi blabbers yet I fail to get her feelings... hmm
I think the person who sketched Khushi's character missed a little point there is a difference between being childish and child-like..

I was very excited about the marriage track, for I thought this will help me sympathise Khushi, which I had hardly done before.. but the track disappointed me when Khushi switched to OTT and my sympathy switched to Arnav...
Then when the kidnapping track started, I did feel good seeing the restlessness in Khushi, but that too didnt last long, because te 'TADAP' has been missing off late... now what I see is a CID officer trying hard to close Arnav's kidnapping case... the blood stains of Arnav on Shyam's shoes looks just like a clue to her and not once does she think, what if Arnav is killed?!?!

Everyday I watch the episode with a hope that today I can see Khuhsi's 'saansein rukhjaayegi' moment, but guess my wait will be a never ending one !!!

Aagayi 😆 😆 @Blue : Agreed 👏
Me too was excited about the marriage track - I was so looking forward to the shyam Khushi and Arnav confrontation - but Khushi's "mitti daalo" on shyam's actions pissed me off so much! 🤢 I need to see the love from Khushi's side - this was HER track and when it became Arnav's I did not even realize! Atleast now the Khushi we are getting - I can still relate to her but still there is sooo much to improve!
Its like only the phangurls are having their "saansein ruk jaayengi" moment everyday when they dont see Arnav - Khushi is pretty calm about arnav's kidnapping and the blood! I knew I would freak out - if I loved someone so much! 😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thanks for n awesome analysis, Doods! Keep it up! 👏
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Posted: 13 years ago

Yes I agree it must be very stressful for her to take whole show for one month on her shoulder...there I say that focus should also have gone to anjali for a change...I mean give her dues too..she is fab actress..they cud have shown her scenes where she is worrying about chotte.. this need not be whole khushi thing here..they cud have focussed on shyam's plan a bit more...so I really sympathise with sanaya fr taking whole burden here.. I agree to your point ..I was too hoping fr a scene where she holds arnie shirt ..or even wear it...😆 ..remember how they showed arnie missin khushi..when he didnt see khushi jst fr 2 days... they do show in between CIDgiri though..but it looses impact...

Well that's where the main point of the Daljeet fiasco lies,doesn't it??Where's Anjali??On the day of Mehndi,Anjali had gotten crazy not having seen her Chote for a few hours..And now..Khushi tells her that Arnavji called and she believes?How pathetic!!Doesn't it strike her that Chote calls Khushi but doesn't call his "DI"!!That's whee the inconsistency of the CV's lie...They've never been consistent in sketching the characters!!This is NOT "Didi Ki Saut"!!I agree.But Anjali NEEDS to be there.Viewers need to know her feelings too!!

I just hate the way the CV's have been to the two sisters-Anjali and Payal!!Both these sisters sometimes just forget that they have a sibling.It's totally the CV's fault-neither Daljeet's or Deepali's.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1




Hola Sreeji ...

Ok discussion sake ke liye ...

If the first word that comes to mind when u think Khushi is innocence ... then where has it changed ... yea sometimes innocence moves to naivet ... but thats another form of innocence na ?

Her Innocence makes her trust .. her innocence makes her impulsive ... thats not changed ...

My point here was ... I am probably right up there with u guys bashing The G Club ... but what we are unhappy with is the track ,... how it is moving ..her character has not changed from day one ... it hasn't evolved much i agree ..

we wanted a more mature Khushi ... but the track designed does not give her room for maturity ... so when she suddenly does something intelligent ( like taking the blood sample for testing ) ... we are confused ... but she has always been smart ( c how she got an ASR on his knees)

I agree with Anna .. that they have not showed her emotional status clearly ... now is the need for her OTT reactions .. & v r not getting them ...

The biggest problem is that the track has stretched ... to the absolute limits ... now u can't show so many reactions from her everyday ...they will be repetitive ... read end of last week & this weeks post of every1 ... its the same ... i know i write one too ...😉

Baruns extended absence has not been handled well ... i agree ... thats where all these questions are rising from ...

My point was only on her character sketch ... no ones sketch as yet has been hampered with ... thats the only redeeming quality of the team ...

They are repetitive! The amount of Hugs we have got from Mami and Khushi in the past few days - itne toh Arnav and Khushi also did not have in one year 😆 😆 Everytime Mami's dialogue is for Khushi to be practical - Shyam and Khushi confrontation - Khushi in different words keeps telling shyam to lay off and that she is not interested - Anjali - chotte and shyam ji se upar neeche she cannot see 😆 Especially for Anjali - is she the same Anjali who went mighty paranoid when Arnav went missing for 3 hours!? Now he is gone for so many days and she does not bother calling him!? 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Wowww!! Okay!!

@Riti : We agree on everything and I know it 😆 My point exactly - she has seen the blood on Shyam's shoes and the realization is not seeping in that she has done wrong. I agree with mami that she needs to be practical. But in the nights we need to be shown moments where she is emotionally drained - where she is feeling lost - where she is letting her heart out. This could have been HER track if explored properly.
@Teju : You know somehow I think the Creatives never mess with Arnav much! His character is retained and they manage to shelve the sympathy towards Arnav easily. With Khushi my sympathies were with her till the Holi days - but when it got turned into OTT - it automatically shifted to Arnav. I tried my best to understand her reasons - but I could not. Then again once in a blue moon - suddenly her feelings came out of no where. That is when people lost connect with the show. I need to see her understand her mistakes.
@Sree : I know all about your Khushi love 😆 😆 I never found ASR morally wrong persay - but wrong otherwise. I would add that especially after he fell for Khushi he was an escapist and nothing else. Khushi is not morally wrong for me now as well - she is just wrong. She tried to do a good deed and it back fired on her. She did not know that she was protecting the devil then and giving him chance pe chance. But now she can regret her decision and that is all I seek.
We all want Arnav's repentance and we know it will happen - but Khushi too has to understand her share of mistakes and repent for them as well. And till the realization of her mistake does not seep in - she wont be able to understand her role in this whole MU.
@Zooni : Bang on! Who sleeps! The creatives need to focus on Khushi more and get her feelings out so that we all can connect with her. I have started too off lately and that makes me happy. But I still need that pinch of regret in her for hiding Shyam's truth.

Yes Yes..we agree on everything Anna...😆.. the fact is that I really want to connect with khushi's emotions and for just once in this show..I want to cry for her...yes..I want to..only time I cried for her was diwali time..rest all my tears have been fr Arnie..yeah I am a crying baby..😆..
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: redwine1



@ruby
My point is not that the character sketch changed or not. It has indeed changed pre and post marriage. And we can call it character growth or evolution whatever. But what comes to your mind when you think about khushi...'innocence' is the word for me and whole time i related with her because of that. Now, I can not see that element and sometimes i feel that she is digging a hole for herself by entangling in all the lies. Like the fairy lights 😆(arnav bitwa you can only save her😉).

From a normal viewer perspective, she is on the verge of loosing the edge, because of the points I mentioned.. Thats why I wondered in my post! Is it a conscious effort to entangle khushi in a mess so that arnav can rescue from the deepsh** later or Somethings are over looked just to keep the story moving?


Hola Sreeji ...

Ok discussion sake ke liye ...
If the first word that comes to mind when u think Khushi is innocence ... then where has it changed ... yea sometimes innocence moves to naivet ... but thats another form of innocence na ?Her Innocence makes her trust .. her innocence makes her impulsive ... thats not changed ...

My point here was ... I am probably right up there with u guys bashing The G Club ... but what we are unhappy with is the track ,... how it is moving ..her character has not changed from day one ... it hasn't evolved much i agree ..

we wanted a more mature Khushi ... but the track designed does not give her room for maturity ... so when she suddenly does something intelligent ( like taking the blood sample for testing ) ... we are confused ... but she has always been smart ( c how she got an ASR on his knees)

I agree with Anna .. that they have not showed her emotional status clearly ... now is the need for her OTT reactions .. & v r not getting them ...

The biggest problem is that the track has stretched ... to the absolute limits ... now u can't show so many reactions from her everyday ...they will be repetitive ... read end of last week & this weeks post of every1 ... its the same ... i know i write one too ...😉

Baruns extended absence has not been handled well ... i agree ... thats where all these questions are rising from ...

My point was only on her character sketch ... no ones sketch as yet has been hampered with ... thats the only redeeming quality of the team ...

Character sketch - one can always argue that khushi was always like this, hiding small issues, small pranks, small lies, sacrificing everything for her family.

But my point was how khushi stands when i measure her using my moral yardstick.Khushi has evolved from silly non harmful lies to pretty big ones. Thats a fact!. And for a viewer(and i do believe Indian audiences, especially telly, are not matured enough to handle a grey shaded female lead), I have issues digesting the lies she is churning out and many more.

If you ask me, From story POV who is responsible for khushi's worries? - I would say she herself is responsible for the kidnapping mess. Had it been handled in a different way, things would have looked so much brighter. But earlier my answer was different - I used to say Shyal\fate\ASR played with her life. This is the difference in scenario i pointed out.

btw what is g club?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: redwine1


I realize that!! But that does not mean that she cannot have her own moments right!? Women may not stand up to domestic violnece but that does not mean that they do not fear right!? I am not asking her to go and confess to someone - or to confide in someone - I am asking for her emotions. I dont know - but the way love has been portrayed in the show - Arnav's reaction to Khushi missing for 15 minutes - beats Arnav being kidnapped for days! I dont need an action - I need reaction 😉

Darling I am all with you ... i brought this point out consistently from the time khushi realizes her hubby is kidnapped ...

the only real reaction we have got till date is she refusing to eat ... that too once ... otherwise she is going about life normally😕


Bang on! That is the only thing pissing me off! This is Khushi's track completely and they can connect the audience to her turmoil of not having Arnav near her and in danger. But they are not exploring it only. Its like once in a blue moon she realizes that Arnav is missing - but as soon as it starts - it ends as well. 🥱

bingo!!

in her late evenings,viewers cud have shown her inner turmoil, understandings of the day, things revolving about arnav n hers n how she mistook him but then trying to understand what he meant..

out of blue,since arnav is not around she starts missing him n names it as love..it's different that she puts her efforts to clear the opinion regarding hers..but that can happen with anyone..once,we realise our friend is having a bad opinion or just our acquaintance is having not so good opinion,I don't think,anyone keeps quiet..so coming to point,it wud have been more convincing for us to relate how she misses him,how she learns Saitan n Ramkumar are indeed one n shes responsible for the shaitaan in him..N then combine all these Dhaka dhak n acidity with her newly known version of arnavs and name it Love from her side wud have been more more convincing.

Back to my first POV, ,Kushi not keen in learning her mistakes..instead of the bubbly track,if CVs wud have done this,it wud have moved the story ahead,Showed some positive impact on TRPs and in that way people like us have had chance to drool on our arnie baby..😛😉
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Aagayi 😆 😆 @Blue : Agreed 👏
Me too was excited about the marriage track - I was so looking forward to the shyam Khushi and Arnav confrontation - but Khushi's "mitti daalo" on shyam's actions pissed me off so much! 🤢 I need to see the love from Khushi's side - this was HER track and when it became Arnav's I did not even realize! Atleast now the Khushi we are getting - I can still relate to her but still there is sooo much to improve!
Its like only the phangurls are having their "saansein ruk jaayengi" moment everyday when they dont see Arnav - Khushi is pretty calm about arnav's kidnapping and the blood! I knew I would freak out - if I loved someone so much! 😛

Yaar har baat pe 'ah' 'woo' and the famous 'OOO' karnewaali khushi was so aramse collecting blood sample.. anjali hoti toh unconscious hojaati khoon dekh ke
My expectation from Khushi was something else re, but as 'redwine' said, you cannot show her agony everyday, especially if Barunjee doesnt turn up for one whole month.. but I just wanted one moment.. the IT moment... iski saansein toh kabhi rukhti hi nahin.. oh I fogot.. 'heavy breathing' is Khushi's forte.. didnt I witness that in hut too? so how can saansein rukh jao?!?!
Khushi need not say that she loves Arnav but the sudience at least should get convinced na? I'm still in the feeling that she has accepted Arnav as someone who was written in her destiny.. remmeber the dhaaga waala dialogue? 'humein zabardast thama diya tha and ab jo band gaya hain toh'... I want her to prove me wrong someday !!

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