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nivedha84

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: --Anna--

Arre Nivi - I did not like it - that is my personal opinion 😆 Because I would rather see Anandi getting in with the new guy than see Mami and Khushi. But overall opinion - the script and everything has been superb! 😛

Argue kar le - khaungi nahi! 😆 😆 See BS is one reason most of us watch - Arnav holds the show for me - and for many - but it is the ArHi chemistry also I watch for - so woh nahi hoga toh dimaagi ki toh dahi hogi na! 😆

thats why i said i DISAGREE ,kallas 😆

Now coming to ASR and Kidnap,we all know the reason behind the Kidnapping track and the DRAGGING thanx to Mr.Right😆 for taking us thru this DRAG ride😆anything for SOBTI😉

PH/ACTORS/CHANNEL/CV"S r doing a briliant job and somehow they reached the shore safely,now its only matter of a week time,the show wil be back to its ROCKING MODE and loads of dhamakas to look forward too and i know icant do much abt BS absence and i dont want any illogical rabbavey's .isiliye iam njoying the show and meri dhimaag ki dahi nahi hui😆

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Supna9

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: pamk06

I totally agree with you Supna...its not romance that is the cause for the fall of TRP...but it is the absence of the lead..Plus people want to know why did Arnav confess, what happened for him to realize that Khushi is innocent...That explanation plus what will happen after he comes homes, their relationship, the speculation on this is trying people's patience...

Thanks anna n pam..here i m telling u my views 4rm the post marriage till nw .actually i never thought Asr ll marry khushi so soon i always thought he would deal with her rather than marraige 4rm khushi's dialouges when after janam... pooja... but shame marrige done n then i was expecting nw i this would be the track of 4th promo tagline " Nafrat pass aney na de mohabbat durr jane na de.." n what a mess they did wit this intense track...n all my expectation gone with the wind 1st khushis rona dhna then arnav cruelity n in last khushi nautankiss...uuufff...
n then unexpected ILU n yet i m disagree n angry with this i love u iss tou accha tha again he said i hate u...so n then hero disappeard all the burden on heroine thin n weak shoulders...n in between they gave us ajeeb o gareeb romance...like giving a child lolypop 4 behlane n phuslaney k liye..

nw i done ab only i want ASR n Khushi love n so called hate story with intenseity...n i want guest house khushi back only n only 4 asr asking all her questions answers...n then Asr redemption n repetance nnsepararion bcz IMO i dnt believe a girl can 4give so easily a man who done many many bad things to her... i knw u all r disgree with me here n in some points too

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: redwine1

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Well I agree with Pam here - except on the Payal bit! I dont think Payal plays a role here - but Anjali sure does! The story revolves around Anjali and her relationships and their dynamics with Shyam - Arnav and Khushi. She is the central character for everything that is happening is in and around her. Even the love story is completely dependant on Anjali and no one else. The creatives have not explored her well these days but it has always been Anjali who though not visible in all the frame has been running each and every track.

Heyyaa Pam! See i wrote 😛 😆

Anna .. do explain ... where in the past 260 + episodes have u seen the dynamics of Anjali & her relations play out ... how is anything happening in this serial about her ... ( except that Khushi & arnav got married because of her ) ... but this being a love story i can give u 10 other ways these guys could land up married without the Anjali equation ...

Why is the love story dependent on Anjali ... today the Anjali problem remains unsolved ,.. but the lovers are united in soul right ??? they have come together ( at least in thoughts) despite the Anjali issue hanging on their heads ?

( yaar by the time this serial ends if i don't end up being an editor or a critique .. shame on me 😉)

@Bold : Exactly! There could be 10 ways but it did not go that way!

It happened because of Anjali.

See Anjali - brought back Khushi into Arnav's life because of La! Destiny got them together but in form of Anjali. Then Anjali and Shyam equation came into play - then Arnav Khushi - Anjali and Shyam equation came in - then came Arnav Anjali Khushi equation - then now also if future separation may happen it will be because Anjali may not accept Khushi initially. It will always be dependant on Anjali's reaction. The union has happened - but the acceptance after the truth dawns still has to happen. Arnav Khushi love story is there - but it will be completed only after Anjali knows Shyam's truth. It all comes down to Anjali at the end.

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Lizzy2012

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: redwine1
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Well I agree with Pam here - except on the Payal bit! I dont think Payal plays a role here - but Anjali sure does! The story revolves around Anjali and her relationships and their dynamics with Shyam - Arnav and Khushi. She is the central character for everything that is happening is in and around her. Even the love story is completely dependant on Anjali and no one else. The creatives have not explored her well these days but it has always been Anjali who though not visible in all the frame has been running each and every track.

Heyyaa Pam! See i wrote 😛 😆

Anna .. do explain ... where in the past 260 + episodes have u seen the dynamics of Anjali & her relations play out ... how is anything happening in this serial about her ... ( except that Khushi & arnav got married because of her ) ... but this being a love story i can give u 10 other ways these guys could land up married without the Anjali equation ...

Why is the love story dependent on Anjali ... today the Anjali problem remains unsolved ,.. but the lovers are united in soul right ??? they have come together ( at least in thoughts) despite the Anjali issue hanging on their heads ?

( yaar by the time this serial ends if i don't end up being an editor or a critique .. shame on me 😉)

Well said ruby.. This was my rant in the previous pages.. I was talking to some ordinary viewers in the sense my neighbour ..she was asking me as to why anjali has been so much importance when it is a love story and as to why payal has been sidelined.. She was wondering why this kidnapping was dragging ..as to how arnav said ilu in the midst of MU..

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redwine1

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Redwine,

Let me start from the begining:

How did they first meet? - Because of payal's marriage that is when their hate track started...

Why did she come to his house? -- because of anjali -- that is when their love started

After Lavanya, who got them together? --- It was payal, her marriage but that time it was hate + love

Why did Khushi keep the truth of shyam from teh Anjali and Arnav? - because of Anjali's obsessive love...

Why did they marry? - Because of Anjali (and that time that was no lover who was marrying her, it was only the brother) --- hence began the hate track...

But because the love had bloomed, even though they hated each other they still could not live without each other (thus the tagline) and hence Arnav's guilt after marriage , That time the brother was justified but after the holi confession it was the lover who came into the picture, because before that there was no formal declaration of love. Hence arnav was never sure about kHushi's love. he firmly belived that she loved Shyam but his punishment was only as a brother. If the holi confession would not have happened, then his redemption would not have make sense because the lover never sinned it was the brother who had sinned and he was justified in his action. But now the lover will remorse. because he did not believe her.

At this moment it is the fourth promo playing and now the Nafrat has changed to mohaabat...how the story goes from here will depend on whom Anjali believes, the brother or the husband...

Edited to add: The holi confession also happened because of Anjali as she made kHushi drink the bhanag and the actual also happened becasue of Anjali because she panicked and shyam was forced to make that call

Pam .. again i ask u ... they have used a character ( albeit an important one) to bring the 2 main leads together ... if u apply ur own logic & see ... except the meeting ... isn't Shyam equally responsible to bring the lovers together ... whats more to also keep them apart ... so is Shyam the central character ...

whatever u say makes sense if u feel this is a story about siblings ... but thats where i differ in ur POV ... c we both are saying the same thing watching the same thing ... but our interpretations are different ... u feel its a story of siblings .. hence all that is happening is happening due to them...

I feel this is a love story ... so i feel the siblings are a means or props for the lovers to meet ...

Same point different visions ... hope the PH reads this discussion today .. they will be floored with the divergent interpretations ...😃

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: pamk06

HI Pam ... sorry for butting in ... but desperately trying to understand every1's view point here ... ( iske baad seedha Star main programming ki job loongi 😉)

If u say the story is about Sisters or siblings ...why is the serial called Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon ... why is the tag line ... Mohabbat door jaane na de ..." ( aaj than gayi yeh likh ilkh ke)

When did the story ever revolve around Anjali at all ... she was the means for Arnav to marry Khushi ( all under the guise of saving my sisters marriage for both)

If this is a love story .. that too of Arnav & Khushi then the central characters of the show are Arnav & Khushi ... the rest are means .. props... support to make these guys meet .. separate ...

Would love to know why u think the stories central characters are the sisters ?

Redwine,

Let me start from the begining:

How did they first meet? - Because of payal's marriage that is when their hate track started...

Why did she come to his house? -- because of anjali -- that is when their love started

After Lavanya, who got them together? --- It was payal, her marriage but that time it was hate + love

Why did Khushi keep the truth of shyam from teh Anjali and Arnav? - because of Anjali's obsessive love...

Why did they marry? - Because of Anjali and Payal (and that time that was no lover who was marrying her, it was only the brother) --- hence began the hate track...

But because the love had bloomed, even though they hated each other they still could not live without each other (thus the tagline) and hence Arnav's guilt after marriage , That time the brother was justified but after the holi confession it was the lover who came into the picture, because before that there was no formal declaration of love. Hence arnav was never sure about kHushi's love. he firmly belived that she loved Shyam but his punishment was only as a brother. If the holi confession would not have happened, then his redemption would not have make sense because the lover never sinned it was the brother who had sinned and he was justified in his action. But now the lover will remorse. because he did not believe her.

At this moment it is the fourth promo playing and now the Nafrat has changed to mohaabat...how the story goes from here will depend on whom Anjali believes, the brother or the husband...

Edited to add: The holi confession also happened because of Anjali as she made kHushi drink the bhanag and the actual also happened becasue of Anjali because she panicked and shyam was forced to make that call

BANG ON!!! 👏

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Lizzy2012

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: redwine1

Thanks Appu read u're s just now docsahiba.. Well written

Ruby- loved u're post on khushi the complete woman.. Actually was planning to write on that and the changed to two fundamental truths in the show after I weighed which was more imp from pov

Yeh Lo ek aur thought sister ban gayi meri ...😊

how are u feeling today ... hope ur not taxing ur back too much

My back is much better now..thought sister😆... Yesterday I saw khushi as sister, wife,babhi, fighter basically in the sati mode ,crusader for truth.. A general in her own right , aDIL ..

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redwine1

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Posted: 13 years ago

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@Bold : Exactly! There could be 10 ways but it did not go that way! 😛 It happened because of Anjali.

See Anjali - brought back Khushi into Arnav's life because of La! Destiny got them together but in form of Anjali. Then Anjali and Shyam equation came into play - then Arnav Khushi - Anjali and Shyam equation came in - then came Arnav Anjali Khushi equation - then now also if future separation may happen it will be because Anjali may not accept Khushi initially. It will always be dependant on Anjali's reaction. The union has happened - but the acceptance after the truth dawns still has to happen. Arnav Khushi love story is there - but it will be completed only after Anjali knows Shyam's truth. It all comes down to Anjali at the end.

Anna i am not disputing anything u say .. yes Anjali is an important character .. but she is not the main lead .. she is not the central character in a LOVE STORY ... She is the prop that the story writer used to bring the lovers together ...

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012
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Lizzy,

You are looking at the tracks all wrong. IPK is the story based on sibling love and Anjali/payal will always be the center piece. Look at the past, we saw Arhi together but even then the story was revolving around Anjali and Payal be it their intial meeting, marriage or the current track. In the future also even though Anjali is the main character, the center, the execution will be such that the story will revolve around Arhi because they are the TRP puller.

Always remember, Payal will bring them together and Anjali will keep them together and this will never change, Only the tracks will change and Arhi will be the one who will execute them. Plus you are forgetting the 5th promo, where the past will be revealed., once the Shyam fiasco is completed it will be back to "Nafrat track" and the tagline

May be u are right.. My only concern is that they shouldnt miss the basic tag line in search of a major twist..I do understand that siblings play a part in the storyline.. But the major audiences do not realise this.. After talking to some ordinary viewers yesterday .. I came to conclusion that the audiences are confused now as to who is the lead?? Why they are dragging the kidnapping story and as to why anjali is given so much importance .. As to why payal is not given so much..

Lizzy,,

They messed up here. They should have Payal -Khushi bonding as they showed Anjali-Arnav bonding. Remember Khushi married to save Payal but because of IPL and Barun's movie they did not follow the original track. They are dragging the kidnapping story because they have no choice with Barun being absent.

Also, Anjali will always be important. She is like a mother to him and when a choice comes between Khushi and Anjali, though Arnav will want to choose Khushi, khushi will force him to choose Anjali because she knows how important Anjali is for him

This is the only reason why they stressed for 8 months the unhealthy relationship between Anjali and Arnav. Also the initial title was "Didi ki saut"..The story never changed only the title changed.

Also, when the next track starts , there will be nafrat because khushi is in a way responsible for Anjali first marriage being broken as well they being thrown out of the house..even then anjali will be the center piece because she was affected the most.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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