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Posted: 13 years ago

Majboor yeh haalaat, idhar bhi hai udhar bhi

Kehne ko bahut kuch hai, magar kisse kahe hum

Dil kehta hai duniya ki har ek rasm utha de

Deevaar jo hum dono mein hai, aaj gira de

Haan humko mohabbat hai, mohabbat hai, mohabbat

Ab dil mein yehi baat, idhar bhi hai udhar bhi

Loved the episode, Girls !! ..

Heyy all,

Tants is one happy girl today cos finally The much stretched, much dragged, never ending clue gatheringwala Detectivegiri has ended and Khushi has got her Arnavji in her orbit again , Second...some good times are here , it was quite long overdue IMO...Third , I am liking the fact that the CV's are not going overboard with it , Fourth, They have got one principle right ....Bring Sunshine in one marriage and set another marriage on the path to darkness ...This will give the viewer's the pleasure and pain, the joy and drama and I am glad that the PH is using this ruse ...Now lets hope that TRP God casts a benevolent eye on them !!😊

Khushi is on her mission to find out the whereabouts of her Arnavji, She zealously pursues all avenues only to be foiled in each and every attempt , Her last attempt finds her in the neighborhood of LakshmiNagar , when the much needed 'Surag ' Falls into her hands ..She Sees the Tattooed one who kidnapped her Man ... All her antenna's on a high alert, She moves behind him , following the mobile clue in search of her Holy Grail !!..But the Impatient fate takes a hand * Thank You, Fate* finds a shortcut method of getting her in touch with her Pati Parameshwar ...Yeh !! Babies, Khushi gets clouted on the head, carried to the hideout where Arnav is kept and deposited right next to the cell where Arnav is sitting slumped on the ground ** where can U get such super fast, speedy and considerate delivery service , Tell meej **😆

Khushi who had been searching for Arnav everywhere has returned to her home and it is only from here that she gets to find the way back to Arnav ..Her Lakshmi is at Maika ..Her life will begin again from maika ..

Khushi wakes up in a dark basement and yelps out in pain, The Pain kick starts the recollection of the past events , Not just that , The Pain also triggers the extra sensory perception as she immediately senses the presence of Arnav while at the same time , Arnav too gets a whiff of Khushi ...Both are jolted and are desperate to know whether their crazy feelings are real or just a hallucination...Khushi looks here and there for some sort of implement while Arnav does the same on his side of the wall...

What I really liked here was the way The CV's stayed faithfully true to the character, Khushi, the voluble one, the inveterate chatterer immediately verbalizes her speculation aloud, her thought aloud while Arnav the taciturn does not utter a single monosyllable..The rising feelings are shown through his expressions and actions ...True to their innate characteristics of always finding a way out , both then set about to find a way out of the mess they have landed in ...

When crisis occurs, we will see them both trying to find a way to each other regardless of the storms happening in their world and that they will succeed in finding the gap, the path

Rejuvenated by the thought that their respective partners might be on the other side of the wall, this thought renewing the optimism , igniting the flames of ardour, fanned by their desperation to see one another, the two much in love fiery spirits cast around , searching for the tool that will bring down the obstacle hindering their union ...both are flummoxed for the moment at the lack of any such tool but determination and a firm resolve sees them through... Arnav who had been rushing around in a frenzy halts as the Whispered 'Arnavji' Of Khushi reaches him him, cooling his frayed nerves, a cool breeze that soothes the burning pain in his heart , he moves towards the source of the sound, his every fiber tingling in anticipation , Hope warring with pessimism , anticipation with Dejection, impatience with longing . Arnav calls out her name, her name becoming the Magic Talisman which revives the ebbing strength, her Name becoming the life line which brings him back to the world of living , Khushi hears her name being called, The voice that she had longed to hear, was seeking so hopefully without never letting the shadows of failure into her thoughts is found !!

Khushi runs towards the sound , like a child that has found its haven, Like a deer which has found its sanctuary ..unfortunately she runs into the wall , she finds relief in the thought that the light which had gone out her universe plunging it into darkness is back, the eclipse is over ..She has confidence in her man that he will find a way to reach her, take her into his protection, She awaits while the impatient Young man who now knows that his Happiness is just a wall away is in a heightened agitation ...Arnav notices the window of hope and instructs Khushi to reach him, Khushi is his equal and she does not need any lessons, The idea of seeing him provides her with the wings and she flies around setting up a table to reach him while Arnav does the same on his part...

New love is the brightest, and long love is the greatest, but revived love is the tenderest thing known on earth.

-- Thomas Hardy

Arnav and Khushi finally see each other , their eyes drinking in each other's face, Their eyes burning the imagery of the much loved face onto their brain , Their eyes speaking about all the love they have enclosed within their tiny heart, A love which can never be contained even if the whole universe was turned into a chalice , A love defying measurement, Their eyes look into one other, their souls engaged in blissful talks ...Their hands travel of their own accord towards the other,fingers entwining themselves around each other, the process as normal as the plant which entwines itself around the strong tree, completely trusting it to bear it's weight..

"No man is truly married until he understands every word his wife is NOT saying." - unknown quote

The Gemini's who had been separated perforce are united back again, "I have found You' says the frisky soul burning bright, fierce, and golden red,gladness, cheer and happiness in her tone, 'Yes, You have found me " is the rejoinder by the mature soul, its flame burning the bluest of blue, intense , calm and deep, unselfish !!..She surrenders to him,leaning towards him, finding her heaven within his capable broad shoulder's.. The tears which she had been shedding doing its final lap , this time the tears being one of Joy !! Arnav responds to the unspoken question, assures Khushi that he is well which is rejected emphatically by his petite wife who even at that moment does not fail to take him to task for lying to her...The tongue which was held in check these many days is unfurled , as she begins to administer her tender care , Arnav listens to the verbal tirade with a smile, allowing the waves of Love to wash over him, dropping the shackles of tiredness , untying the fetters that had kept him tied to the darkness ..

Arnav quietens the raging virago , tells her that he needs to break the barrier that is separating them, Khushi loathe to leave his side even for a nanosecond firmly holds on to him, her every particle making it very clear that Arnav Singh Raizada dare not leave her hand and woe betide him if he dares to do so ...Understanding her emotions, Arnav points out that he has to break the wall so that he can come to HER side...to be together again...Immediately comprehending the brilliance of it, Khushi tries pulling the grill, not endowed with laser power she fails to burn through it ..A concerned Arnav does not like his fragile wife undertaking this hazardous task, tenderly orders her off the table, adjures her to take care and asks her to wait for him... Khushi begins her vigil after assuring Arnav that she is safe and has descended from the 3 feet table safely.

Khushi settles down to wait but her phobia comes into pay, the phobia of being alone in a dark room, Panic assails her as she imagines herself to be deserted just like in the past , Nightmare of being abandoned by her parents makes a a brief visit and she calls out to Arnav to restore confidence in herself, her vigil..Arnav's encouraging voice comes floating right back at her, assuring her that even in that darkest times , he is standing by her, is fighting against a brute strength monster for her...when visions of hell come for revisiting in the form of kidnapper who threatens and intimidates Khushi just when Arnav's back is turned, but an alert Arnav hares back to the grill, to fight for her against the nameless enemy .

Murderous rage courses through his veins as he realizes that the fiend had touched his love, has hurt the woman he cherishes , When Khushi comes up to his level, he scolds her rashly, angrily demanding the reason for her to come to such a low place..A smile of pure happiness steals itself across the face of Khushi as she revels in the care behind the anger, as she soaks in the love hidden behind the harsh words.. The oasis that she had been searching for has been found, The anchor that she had been looking for is found...She has found her home, her hearth, her heavens in the arms of a man who hurts her, who scolds her, yet will fight for her, who will take on the world for her one smile, who will kill and will let himself be killed for her love !!

"When love beckons to you follow him, Though his ways are hard and steep. And when his wings enfold you yield to him, Though the sword hidden among his pinions may wound you. And when he speaks to you believe in him, Though his voice may shatter your dreams as the north wind lays waste the garden. For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you. Even as he is for your growth so is he for your pruning. Even as he ascends to your height and caresses your tenderest branches that quiver in the sun, So shall he descend to your roots and shake them in their clinging to the earth...

But if in your fear you would seek only love's peace and love's pleasure, Then it is better for you that you cover your nakedness and pass out of love's threshing-floor, Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter, and weep, but not all of your tears. Love gives naught but itself and takes naught but from itself.

~Khalil Gibran~

&&&& Completely off topic but true [at least in my case]

The sincerest love is the love of food.

Bernard Shaw .

Hello Girls,

I'll be taking a break for couple of days and I have asked Doods to take over the opening of the thread in my absence .. And proving the adage "A friend in need is a Friend indeed " true, Doods has consented to open the threads .. I will be joining u girls for chats as and when I get free...Looking forward to read all ur Thoughts on future episode ..Thank You for making this a happening thread and hoping You girls will continue to rock and keep this the rocking one...

Love U all

TC..H*H

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@pamk06

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Posted: 13 years ago

Tanthya,

Looks like you really enjoyed the episode. Your analysis says it all. After many days it feels like it was from "Dilse". It was fantastic.

As you have already explained the episode so beautifully, I will not touch those parts.

Below is my analysis:

Soulmates!!! This was the only thought that passed my mind when I saw Arhi sensing each other. This is not the first time we have seen this connection between them, it has always been there, almost since the begining. even when there was just hate between them. Infact, their relationship had started with hate, so much hate that it created a bond between them. The hate kept growing and one day "Nafrat bhi sharma jaati hain or sirf ek bandhan rah jaata hain".But that bond was so strong that it keep pulling them towards each other. Was it attraction, was it destiny or just a subconscious recognition that the other person is your soulmate? Whatever it was their relationship was becoming stronger, the bond growing deeper and slowly the hate without them realizing their hate started changing to love and as time went love kept growing, becoming stronger that a time came that in quest to hurt the person, they ended up hurting themselves. Love and hate,two sides of the same coin, but the whole basis of Arnav-Khushi's relationship. Destiny got them together, hate created a divide between them but love kept them together. Nafrat pass aane na de, mohabbat door jaaane na de...but today it was only love, pure love acknowledged to oneself and declared to the other that was between them. It was only love that was existing between them which finally brought them together.

But how long does a relationship solely on love alone can survive? For a relationship to survive, trust is very important and there is no trust between them. Arnav is a factual person. He needs proof. He does not take anything on face value and this was proved again today when he asked Khushi, "Tumhein kaise pata ki mein mushibat mein hoon". Even in love, he needs hard facts and this implies that he is going to need proof of her innocence. Today he is overwhelmed with love and that is taking precedence but soon he is going to remember everything. He will remember his sister and Khushi's betrayal. Will this love be strong enough to survive that test? It would have been but Khushi has made a mistake again. She has taken those signs on the paper without his knowledge and there is one person who knows this. That one person who wants everything that Arnav has, his money and his girl. Will he let this opportunity go? Yesterday he said, "Hum bhi unhe sab sach bata denge" and he will blurt out the truth in front of Arnav. Previously, Arnav had believed Shyam because he had visual proof, this time also he will have visual proof. Will he be able to see through Shyam and believe Khushi over Shyam? Will his love for Khushi overcome his basic nature of only believing his eyes?

If he does not, it will be his biggest mistake because this time it will be a bigger betrayal for Khushi. Last time there was no declaration but this time there is and this time she will not be able to bear her love not trusting her. Last time she knew it was her fault in hiding the truth and she had used all means available to prove her innocence. This time also she will do the same but will she forgive him. In fact the bigger question here is will he be able to forgive himself? On the other hand, if he does believe her, he will still need to hear the truth because he has to know all the sins he has unknowingly committed against her, right from the fashion show where he was responsible for Shyam entrance in her life to her engagement and Babuji's illness. He has to repent for all those sins and he will. For now, all I can say is, that we are again heading to the terrace.

Mami, sweet Mami, who is righteous in her own way. She has witnessed all of Khushi's pain during her search for Arnav, her one and only love. She is not the one who will keep things to herself and she will let Arnav know about it. This time she helped Khushi find Arnav and methinks that time she will guide Arnav to find his Khushi. Arnav's repentance that will start at the middle of road as indicated yesterday will end in the temple, that same place where he had committed the biggest sin against the child of God and it will be that child of God who will guide him back to his house because Khushi will be never able to see him in pain, exactly like predicted long back.

We are back where we started but will it be played this way is something we will have to wait and watch but one thing is for sure, whatever hurdles life throws their way, they will always find their way to the other because they are each other's destiny and they will always be united.

PS1: Tants, have loads and loads of fun during your break.😃

PS2: I will not be analyzing tomorrow, will do one on Monday.😊

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Arhimaniac

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Posted: 13 years ago

Over all a nice episode...finally the two long lost lovers unite though under dangerous circumstances but they do...Today no satires...just random things...

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A Wednesday in the hectic life of Mr. And Mrs. Flowerbody.. denoted as FB..

Scene 1:

Principal: Your child is not performing well...his report card is horrendous...

Mrs. FB: But I have been working very hard with him

Principal: But the results are right in front of you..

Scene 2:

Mrs. FB: I don't know what to do the principal is hounding me..I do not want him to kick my child out of the school..

Friend: I think your child is perfect and brilliant you probably should just try to get the constipation he has treated..once treated properly the bowels will keep moving regularly...he will be relieved and act normally ...it will definitely help him improve his results and also stop forcing him to do things that go against his character...he will rock!!

Mrs. FB: My child is not suffering from constipation or acting weird...its my baby I know better..he needs to keep abreast with the competition so I ask him to try and please everyone by going out of the way ....stop pointing fingers and speaking about things you don't know about...

Friend: Its just a friendly advise...I care for him too...I get very happy if he scores well in his weekly reports...at the moment he is the apple of my eye!!

Scene 3:

Mrs. FB: Well now that I have the constipation treated what should be done to improve my child's grades..

Mr. FB: Honey I have got these last 5 years papers...go through them and lets prepare him accordingly...

Mrs. FB: Good idea!!...Lets do those questions first whose weightage is is 50%...and helped our other children score high...

Mr. FB: There is only one that has that much weightage...but are you sure...??

Mrs. FB: Oh yes!!..We need to do it...all other children are already prepared for those questions and are getting better results only ours is left behind...We will do these first and then move onto the notes you and I prepared for him...

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A note to CVs

Dear Cvs...

When you were recording the scene with Arnav ..you probably made the BD stumble quite a many times resulting him in constantly repeating Sambhal ke...dekh ke...next time please make sure that when Sanaya does her part of shots she is told to stumble as well...because she was nowhere near to stumbling and Arnav was going on and on for her to be careful...it wasn't making much sense...Also please make the body double match their nail lengths and hand accessories to those of the leads...as it spoils the continuation of the scene...unfortunately even untrained eyes are now able to pick these flaws...and last but not the least...I have been meaning to say since yesterday...either make the BD wear the same hair piece as Sanaya...if not then please invest in a hair straightener...I am sure you already have one ...just use it!!!

Also we have been requesting for a new entry for Anjali...not Payal 😆

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A message for Doods: There were dark green and red packets hung all over the pan shop and even the auto rickshaw was dark green..*hint hint* 😉

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The Episode today:

I will not give an update on the happenings of the episode as Sats, Nia, Jhalak and the rest have done so aptly...will just touch upon a few points...

Khushi & Payal's dialog

Khushi's utterance of 10 addresses and then 2 people out of Dehli...

Make a list of shops...and then payal in cafe saying she is from Lucknow...

Missed call by Payal to Akash time on cell 10:10 (Thanks Sandy)

10 denotes completion or perfection...it denotes completion of divine order...meaning all things will be put into place according to

Gods will...

2 is all about balance. The perfect symbol for number two is found in the yin yang symbol (which represents Arnav and Khushi),in which we see the perfect balance of dualities, dancing within a tidy contained circle - living harmoniously while each still maintains intact identities. The small counter-colored dot in each hemisphere is a symbolic reference to the fact that a bit of one is found in the other.

The meaning of number Two is also a numerical representation of Karma. . Karma, simply put, refers to cause and effect. The number two represents this universal law of cause and effect.

Bible 10:10..

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Meaning that it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

Does it indicate:

A list of all bad deeds done against Khushi starting from Lucknow TV footage...will be brought to light for Arnav...

Arnav will confess his sins to DM and in his heart he will realize he was wrong and believe in Khushi's innocence...he will believe that there is a creator up there who held his hand all along and made him do what He wanted...Khushi's dialog...of bandagement day will come into play...aik din aisa aaye ga jis din aap ko ehsas hoga ke yeh sab kuch ooper wale ne aap ka haath pakar kerwaya magar usdin hum aap ke paas nahin honge...he will confess his mistakes and ask for forgiveness that is when his salvation will be done...by none other than Khushi who being the daughter of DM will be guided by DM to her original maika...the temple where Arnav will be hiding...

Khushi and Arnav the ying yang pair will be going out of Delhi...probably to Lucknow i.e Sheesh Mahal...

Mami's dialog of Khushi can stay in her maika...

On the surface the dialog stopped khushi coming home so no one will know about her kidnapping...hence when she returns with Arnav...no one will question her disappearance as they will think she went to her maika...so does it mean that there is still time in the revelation of shyam to family...as khushi and arnav yet themselves do not know about shyam's involvement in the kidnapping

On the other hand an indication that once the love birds will take a few steps in the path of their love Shyam will create yet another MU with the will pictures in Khushi's mobile...but this time Arnav misunderstanding khushi will totally break her...

She will prove she is pagal and does not give two hoots about the money and the coveted Mrs. Raizada title...she will be rightly and greatly hurt... She will leave for her maika... Probably a terrace confrontation follows with Shyam...

Arnav's you found me

Arnav under the shroud of his MU will be super mad and bad with khushi...he might then be told by rest of the family members mainly mami how Khushi was crazily finding him and ofcourse nani the witness of all the care and concern khushi had shown for Arnav...he will then witness the confrontation...and will start the regret and repentance track...where he will be unable to forgive himself...he will then take refuge in DM's temple and that is actually when khushi will go and find him..pull him out of his despair and bring out the the real Arnav...Arnav Malik...!!

Order of things:

Love birds escape enjoy in jungle..

return to RM...Shyma creates yet another MU

Terrace confrontation between Shyama and Khushi

Arnav the witness...Khushi leaves..

Arnav informed abt khushi's concern

He regrets, repents and lands up in temple...

Khushi finds him in the end

Shyma revelation to Anjali...

Arnav Khushi and Anjali return to sheesh mahal

I have a very strong feeling that after the happy union on Monday as indicated by the promo to celebrate the anniversary we are moving towards the second MU...this time Khushi will be hit harder as confessions and intimacy will have become a part of the marriage...so she will crumple completely...that is when they will revert back to the original planned tracks of repentance and wooing...and all will fall back into place the way doods had laid in her earlier posts...

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abavi

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Posted: 13 years ago

Leaving you all with a thought.. Will update in the morning

I now know why ASR blurted out ILU prematurely...
When he left Kushi at the airport he felt that she was clearly in love with him and thats why turned to come back tot her.. but alas he was kidnapped. Now he doesnt know the truth.. for him the girl has started loving him he is quiet ready to forgive and accept her...thats why probably when he felt it might be his last chance to tell her, he told her... I cant think of anyother justification for why he suddenly forgot that she has an affair with Shyamu

PS: But wait.. CVs U please better give us proper sequences later so that the ILU over phone is kinda regretted by Arnav due to another MU which breaks down kushi..
then a proper Confession..

2. Surprise promo...on second thoughts.. I really dont know what is running in your mind cvs... Why is the Con trump out so soon?

Points to ponder!

So many innuendos in yesterday's dialogues!

"I have found you finally"

"Yes you have!"

- few episodes back- the same Arnav did not want to acknowledge Kushi's efforts to help him-He didn't want to give her the credit.. today he acknowledged her efforts- a loop closed - the redux experts have to say!

"Do you want me to come to your side?"

"then let me break this grill"

- The scene reflects their current situation too.. They are attracted towards each other like opposite poles of a magnet... they love each other .. but the MU is still there in between them... the love has overpowered the MU and they have reached each other through the grill... but soon the grill will also be removed and Arnav will come over to Kushi's side- the truth will prevail over the lies and win the battle..

The light goes off on kushi's side when Arnav is trying to break off the grill... Nice touch here... immediately when the light goes off.. Arnav's face shows concern that his dear wife is scared of darkness and there she goes calling out for him... does this mean more MU on the way? Kushi's side might seem darker and she might get into more trouble while Arnav is trying to find out the truth and he will not only open his eyes to the truth but he will also save her...

Payal- Akaash scene significance? does it hint at something more than what meets the eye? Lucknow was mentioned as was Payal.. (note: she didnt introduce herself as Payal singh Raizada)

The way the story is going.. it seems that we need to wait for some more time for the MU to get cleared- it might be only after the Kidnapping track gets over and they are back at home... Another MU is on the way folks... and Arnav will break her down completely... Hmm.. Now after this guy has uttered the three words and has consummated the marraige .. if he tells her that she is still characterless and he doesnt value the marraige where will it leave Kushi?

shattered? yes completely! - so we will have the redemption and wooing track too and there will be a proper confession!! (CVs you better give us this! 😳)

Lastly, For now even the kidnap mastermind might not be revealed... hmm interesting! this might give them an opportunity to turn *anyone* grey if they want to !

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Lizzy2012

@Lizzy2012

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Posted: 13 years ago

Love will find a way,out of adversities into the path of light ...
Hoshwalon ko khabaar kya
Behkudi kya cheez hai
Ishq kijiye phir samajiye
Zindagi kya cheez hai
Let me first deal with the emotional outpourings of the heart and then give u all some pointers..
The wife is half the man
With a wife a man does mighty deeds
With a wife a man finds courage
A wife is the safest refuge

A man aflame with sorrow in his soul
Finds comfort in his wife,
As a man parched with heat
Finds relief in water

A man in grip of difficulty
Will remember the love of his wife,
He will remember that
She is Annapurna,Lakshmi ,Shakthi incarnate

-rig Veda about a wife's love and man's need for her in his life.these lines came to me when Khushi told arnav" aakir doond liya humne unhe" and Arnav replied back with a slight smile indicating his belief that she would have any how found him..the lovers,life partners met after so many obstacles.she came to him as his hope..as his lifeline...as his Shakthi ...with love filled heart ..just for him ..to soothe him ..to to save him..it was heart wrenching to see them sensing each other yet not able to see the other..the wall became their enemy.they searched and searched and found a small ventilator.which would allow their love to pass through ..but what did she do after seeing him ..she scolds him,pours out her fear of losing him,fear that somebody has happened to him,and anger at why he lied to her
about the danger that he faced..the look on his face said it all..though he wanted to assure Her that everything is fine ,he is glad that she is concerned about him..

Time and after ,he is worried
about her falling..she in turn doesn't want to let go of the love holding his hand like a lifeline ..like I
said the husband in him tries to assure her that he is there for her always..the wife in her will not let
him go ..will not let him out of her sight .Khushi after assurances gets down and is given food by the
kidnapper.Khushi refuses the food to be reminded by him that she would be hit as she was earlier
.murderous rage fills ASR when hears that Khushi is hit..after that Khushi frightened gets onthe stool
again to feel the reassuring touch of her Arnav..in turn is scolded by him..he wants to know whether
She was hit,shouts at her for risking her life.Khushi just smiles through all this..where Arnav cannot
bear to see a scratch on her,she is willing to be scolded as she missed that during the long silences she
endured due to his abscence .she sees his love in his scoldings.he tells that he was not joking but in
turn she tells him through tears of happiness that it's long since he scolded her..both have a poignant
moment ...wow..we now know why they are equals..see she scolds him and he returns but both only
out of concern...he urges her to step down ,refusing to give her any more pain And asks her the all
important question-how did she know that he was in trouble???

Now let's come to some
symbolism-the rope, wall, net ventilator was all symbolic of Arnav's bondage in the world..he cuts the
rope(ego) finds her voice across the wall(listens to his heart which had turned into a fortress ), lastly
breaks open the iron ventilator(still to do,it is MU)..how does come out of the shackles of MU..when he
sees the kidnapper trying to molest his girl ... that means when he finds Shyam troubling his wife and
blurting out the truth..

Coming to the first part of the show- where Arnav-Khushi are coming
close,payal-akash are drifting apart..it was always a comparison between the two pairs..one which is
volatile has come closer and other the calm one are bring pulled apart silently..one who is going to
start her new life that is starting in the "maika" and another going to be thrown out of RM towards her
maika..

The numbers 10 and2 has been explained by bush and doods .. will not go in to
details

The episode was good but I have a complaint..why do I feel that Arnav is getting the
better of ASR here.I have a request to make to the cv's-don't butcher the character of ASR in the name
of romance..Arnav and asr need to coexsist..removing one from the scenario will be detrimental to the
growth of the character.. Want to end this with

Aayeho meri zindagi main tum bahar
banke
Merri DIL yunhi rehna Tum pyar pyar banke

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@Jhalak29

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Posted: 13 years ago

Before I loved you, love, nothing was my own:
I wavered through the streets, among Objects:
Nothing mattered or had a name:
The world was made of air, which waited.

I knew rooms full of ashes,
Tunnels where the moon lived,
Rough warehouses that growled 'get lost',
Questions that insisted in the sand.

Everything was empty, dead, mute,
Fallen abandoned, and decayed:
Inconceivably alien, it all

Belonged to someone else - to no one:
Till your beauty and your poverty
Filled the autumn plentiful with gifts."

For Arnav

You seems like an oxygen to me,without you its hard for me to breath

For Khushi

Distance may not be a hindrance, our precious love links us even thousand miles in between and TRUST is the only thing that binds our hearts...

I was ecstatic when I saw the episode today, not for me, not for the intelligence I hv which has been insulted yet for the character Khushi, who deserves this, bcz One day Arnav had left it saying, yahan na sahi shayad kahin ek duniya hogi, jahan main aur tum kabhi lag nahi honge

and left with unsaid...

Jab jo bura kaha uska koi matalab nahi, jab jo bura kiya uska koi matlab nahi, Is Pyaar mein sahi aur galat ka koi matlab nahi, bas ek cheez ka matalab hai ki main hamesha hamesha tumse...

Oh god, when she had heard those words how helpless, how broken had she felt that day. yet today when she has long way from that day, today only thing which matters for khushi is Arnav & his safety , togetherness, love, confession all are not important today only Arnav,

Once again the episode starts with Khushi searching for Arnav & discussing with Mami abt Arnav and only his safe being. she is bereft for Arnav & clue abt his well being. and suddenly she sees a goon with the tattoo which she had observed earlier in tapes, nice click of brain I must say⭐️

She follows him with his immature detectivegiri, but with correct intuitiveness and follows the goon, the goon being the professional outshines her with Hitting her, ( the IPK team had used the same location for Khushi following Shyam, & the goon today, even the tree was same) 😡

She wakes up with fuzziness & unclearness abt her whereabts, behind the wall is Arnav who is suffering also, he is sad, pissed off, unsure abt his situation, hope are low, minds confused, yet when he thinking on unfortunate situation he is, he is sitting by the wall like a lost lone soldier, he feels her the air he breathes is tingling with her essence. he feels her, his heartbeat feels her and then he places his hand on the wall, she too keeps her hand on that very same spot. loved the placement here as if the magnets are pulling each other.

and then she calls her, in the same breath he hears her. he too breathes her name & then understands her flowing tears, he calls her & a beautiful moment when they see each other, SI was fantastic here, I must say for the first time I felt she outshone BS here today.

Here when they see each other, they rejoice in each others presence, nothing mattered jus each other, the dingy warehouse, the small ventilator, everything & anything that stands between is wiped out with the force of that valueless, mighty emotion called love, her whole being is drenched in him & vice versa, the hands touch & souls dance. they hv survived the catastrophe of destiny... life is more important than anything & love that shines out of this life

than Khushi realizes the discomfort, once agn she starts telling him , he turns protective, BS wasnt very convincing here today, may be too much to ask with all balls juggling in the air...😕

She questions him and he quietens her,,,,,,, he tells her to be safe till he finds a way to reach her...

he knows she is scared of darkness & he tries his best to protect her & than came the most beautiful scene, he hears the goon threatening Khushi, he asks khushi & she smiles

He is frustrated, yet listening to her he couldn't stop smiling, she tells him, she msd his anger, his concern. he has fallen & there is no way he is gonna ever rise up without carrying the marks of khushi in his soul.

"I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where. I love you simply, without problems or pride: I love you in this way because I do not know any other way of loving but this, in which there is no I or you, so intimate that your hand upon my chest is my hand, so intimate that when I fall asleep your eyes close."

Again he question Khushi how did she know abt him not being well

Married couples who love each other tell each other a thousand things without talking

Chinese Proverb.

Today they hv truly reached at this.

and if someone ask me today I would say

If someone would ask me, who I want to be with, I will simply say, someone who will never leave me no matter how hard is to be with me

Love has bought Khushi & Arnav to that milestone of Love

IPK team, U hv a beautiful team,

Please dunt ruin it with unsuccessful editing & mistake,

Arnav when searching for something to reach to khushi from ventilator, one scene his shirt is out, next scene its inshirt, agn its outshirt how come all in 2 seconds of time,

When he puts rope across to remove grill the rope is doubled, even when khushi pullls it double next scene its single

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Looking at Khushi Arnav, I wanted to dedicate this song for them

Do dil mil rahe hai magar Chupke Chupke

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpQWMQxZ65I[/YOUTUBE]

Edited by Jhalak29 - 13 years ago

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iritz

@iritz

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

Hello Girls...

How are you all doing this beautiful morning... although it's pretty hot here in Delhi, and ASR in his new promo is not helping in anyway... 😍 Tants, Pam, Nia, Arhi, Jhalak, Lizzy... superb posts ! 👏

Here's my 2 cents...

Loved the pace of the episode... They have taken away Ms. Bubbly... and apparently sent Mr. Babloo to replace her ! 😆 Seems like CVs are hell bent on creating a major MU between PayAsh ! But that's good, at least we'll get to see more than 2 expressions from both Payal and Akash... looks like good times ahead !

Originally posted by: Arhimaniac

Also, we've been requesting a new entry for Anajli, not Payal !!!

🤣 Brilliant !!!

Maami was so much in character... the moment she realizes she is developing a soft corner for her, she immediately corrects herself by calling her Phatti Saari once again ! 😊

Poor editing, Body Doubles, Bloopers... something we have come to expect from the CVS... so without much hoo haa about all the mistakes, lets come to the main scene ! Oh, how beautiful it was ! BS and SI... both were superb !! What I could not understand though... why was ASR (after the superb expressions in the last scene of the previous episode after he broke open the ropes), sitting in a corner, looking dejected... just before he got THE AXE EFFECT 😆 from Khushi and realized that she is nearby !

The way she scolded him and he accepted her and then she was smiling through his scolding... how they both have come to accept each other... was beautifully captured ! Poor editing did mar the scene somehow... but still it was mesmerizing !!! All I could think of was this song... one of my all time favorites...

Kuchh Na Kaho... Kuchh Bhi Na Kaho

Kya Kehna Hai... Kya Sun Na Hai

Mujhko Pata Hai... Tumko Pata Hai !

Samay Ka Yeh Pal... Tham Sa Gaya Hai

Aur Is Pal Mein.. Koi Nahi Hai...

Bas Ek Main Hun...

Bas Ek Tum Ho !!!

Kuchh Na Kaho... Kuchh Bhi Na Kaho !

❤️😍 ❤️

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFIk7oc23lI

Originally posted by: Arhimaniac

Order Of things...
Love Birds escape and enjoy in jungle..
Return to RM.. Shyam creates yet another MU
Terrace confrontation between Shyam and Khushi
Arnav the witness... Khushi leaves...
Arnav told about Khushi's concern
He regrets, repents and lands up in temple
Khushi finds him in the end
Shyam's revelation to Anjali
Arnav Khushi and Anjali to return to Sheesh Mahal

Arhi... I was just about to say the same about the MU created by Shyam wrt the Will papers... u beat me to it ! But somehow the spoilers of Khushi getting shot don't seem fit in this scenario ! Hopefully, the twist can be... Khushi getting shot and having selective amnesia up to maybe the time when she and ASR were at loggerheads... and then Arnav to woo her all over again... NK can play a part here since his entry is expected soon as well !!!

❤️

Ritz

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Nia

@Nia.D

Voyager

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Posted: 13 years ago

Love is patient, love is kind

The meeting of two lovers that we were all waiting for finally arrived!! The current state of the forum is enough proof of just how much we were looking forward to this moment, probably more than Khushi-Arnav themselves 😆

Needless to say, with me into high happiness drive, I'm just not in a mood for analysis, anyway there wasn't much to 'analyze' and it only spoils to 'analyze' an emotional scene. 😊

Where to start, what to say.. I have no idea... just seeing them together melts my heart! Two lonely hearts, two orphaned children, two people poles apart with the beautiful string of love that binds them. They meet, they fight, they part, they meet again, they draw swords, they make up, they drift away, they come back again, they pull each others hairs, they remain confused, they part again... and meet again... they lose each other and then find each other again every single time. Their labyrinthine love connects them through an infinite string of dreams, hopes, passion, desire, needs, longing, comfort, safety, and love.

They may get lost in that powerful maze of love, they may lose sight out of each other at alternate curves, they may reach dead ends in their relationship, they may face darkness, and they may take time to find the right way through the maze, but the string of love will keep guiding them toward each other, the string of hope will keep propelling them forward, the thread of need will help them be by each others sides, and their strong love will keep them united.

Love will keep us alive... did you see the way their weakened, tired, broken souls immediately sprang into life the moment they sensed each other? The gleam of hope in their eyes, the hands reaching out to the wall barring them, the impatient action of trying to see each other, calling out to one another, satisfied only when their eyes met and their fingertips touched!

"Iss pyaar main sahi aur galat ka koi matlab nahin" - was written all over Arnav's face as he saw Khushi, not as a mirage this time, but for real! The love in their eyes, tears and touch is all that was needed to establish the invisible bond between them. A bond where there was no misunderstandings, no guilt, no anger, no pain, no hurt, no agony and no ego, only love emblazoned in their bond.

The precious moments of their innocent bond flashes across, reminding them that love is pure, it is not selfish, it doesn't harbour jealousy and is not vain. The moments of care, the times of unshackled desire, the small details that brought them together - all delicately woven to create a beautiful tapestry of their winding, rocky, breath-taking, yet infinite journey of love so far.

Their love directs their minutest actions, their hearts reach out to one another in that dark, gloomy place. The mesh and wall blocks them from each other, and Arnav almost attempts to break down the wall at first - a la Hulk mode 😆 Also thought of the breaking of the Berlin Wall.. but enough of that, back to our lovely couple that we sigh over... The net is not obstacle enough as their fingers find each other through it... acceptance of their love, for the first time! even though they haven't properly admitted it yet to one another.

Isn't it strange how a small gesture can carry so much meaning? Just clasping the edges of the fingers, Khushi reaching out to him first, and Arnav sliding his fingers in the gaps of hers where they fit, both united, both souls finding one another, holding on to one another, accepting each other and being one!

"Humne aapko dhoond liya" says Khushi... Arnav nods in response and agrees with gladness in his voice, "Haan tumne mujhe dhoond liya!" He was a lonely soul all his life, and the past week drove the loneliness further - memories of him hurting Khushi deepened the impact of anger he felt with himself. But now here she was, in front of him, she had come to find him, she was only worried about him, each of her tears had his name in them, she had accepted him in her life and he knew it. They take in each other, the love between them tangible, the relief of seeing each other displayed in their eyes, the desire to be on the same side beside one another exhibits itself.

Khushi is unwilling to let go of Arnav's hand... she has lost him too many times, and now that she has witnessed his acceptance of her she is scared to lose him again. Takes me right back to the terace-suicide scene - where Arnav is unwilling to let go off Khushi after he saves her from committing suicide. Equals at every stage! 😊

Arnav gently explains to her that in order for him to come to her side, he needs to break open the net and climb through. Khushi tries to help him, but Arnav tells her that he will do it on his own. Please excuse me as I side-step into symbolism here: The net is clearly the factors restraining ASR/Arnav from completely giving himself to Khushi. Khushi can only try, and come close to him, but the barricades between them have been self-imposed by ASR himself. It is Arnav alone who can take the initiative to keep listening to his heart, to follow his heart, to believe his heart and to break down the criss-crossing lines of ego, practicality, and false-hood rooted in his mind to give himself over to his heart and join his true soul-mate Khushi.

Khushi climbs down from the stool carefully on Arnav's love-driven orders and waits for him to join her. The kidnapper brings her food and reminds her of the hit he gave her that brought her to Arnavji. Once he leaves, Arnav in all anger demands to know how she came there, did that man hurt her? what if something had happened to her, who told her to come here, but his anger only serves to amuse her, further infuriating him as he demands to know the reason behind her finding his outburst funny.

There was a time when Khushi failed to recognize the very reason behind this anger of his. There was a time when Arnav's frustration only goaded her to irritate him out of his depths. But now, in an inexplicable way known only to lovers, she recognizes and understands the love that is hidden behind his outburst (this could be in an unconscious way because she didn't exactly say this aloud), her next words "Itne dino baad aapka daant suna" says a lot about the previous line. It hasn't surfaced to her mind yet, but her heart knows that it is care, concern, and love behind his anger. Shaitan and Rajkumar are one for her now - she loves this man as he is, every flaw, every goodness, her love for him wraps itself around him, accepting him whole-heartedly.

Arnav too gets a glimpse of Khushi's care for him when she scolds him for lying about being fine. He can lie to anyone else, even his Di, and not get caught, but how can one expect one's own twin soul to believe the lie? A good lashing he gets from his spirited woman, who is not prepared to listen to his feeble attempts at reassuring her about his well-being. But a touch from him, a firm yet gentle assurance from him finally quietens her down. The only reason he didn't blow his top off was because as much as Khushi missed his 'daant' he too missed the caring, loving 'daant' of this lively monkey. Somewhere in his sub-conscious too, he knows that her tirade is just a manifestation of the limitless love she has for him. Her concern, her worries, her anguish over him missing for seven days has pushed her over and it is nothing else than genuine innocent love for him that let an out-pour of words after the out-pour of her tears for him 😆

The light flickers out on Khushi's side, and she immediately calls out to Arnav who at once reassures her that he's with her. She climbs up and joins to help him with a rope to break the net. Arnav is aware that Khushi is afraid of the dark, the moment she calls out to him, he calms her down, gives her the much needed solace through his voice. But that isn't enough for delicate yet strong Khushi, her real source of light is him, and he is there for here even when the rest of the lights in her life may fade out - the beacon of light will be shed by him on her, drawing her to him, driving her closer to his care, security and protectiveness when she is left alone in the dark.

"Khushi tumhe kaise pata chala ki main mushkil mein hoon?" - A question that leaves Khushi stumped for now, will have to see if the kidnapper interrupts this moment tomorrow.

All pretenses, all false notions, inhibitions, pain, and doubts were not given the luxury of coming in even once between Khushi-Arnav. A scene to treasure, where Arnav responds genuinely to the voice of love. The forever chirpy-but-now-dejected bird had to just chirp his name 'Arnavji' which carried it across and tapped his heart beckoning him to follow his name voiced out plaintively. The touch of his fingers, the look of love in his eyes, the voice of care and concern touched her soul and echoed his love in every chamber of her heart.

Their Hearts Ruled, their hearts joined, their hearts were One!

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Love is patient, love is kind.
It does not envy,
it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude,
it is not self-seeking,
it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects,
always trusts,
always hopes,
always perseveres.
Love never fails.

~ (1 Corinthians 13:4-8a, NIV).

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When it comes to IPKKND, I just lose all sense of logic in emotional scenes, after all, when has love ever been logical? If you view a love scene with prejudice, background knowledge, and scepticism you may just fail to absorb the magic of the scene! As far as I know, it's best to leave your brains behind when there's a love scene enacted. Trust me, the first time I view the episode I view it for pure entertainment - my brains are nowhere in sight, the second time is to decode/analyze the episode... and there's a sizable difference in my outlook after both times. It's up to you how you would like to watch the show.

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Looking forward to explanations behind the change from dislike to Love on Arnav's side. Will try my psychology antics, but not here on Redux. Have more to say and ask, but don't want to spoil the happy, lovey, cute mood of readers, so will speak out in the next Redux.

Enjoy,

Nia 😊

P.S: Happy and safe journey Tants! Enjoy... will miss you, though knowing that you will be here for chats now and then does ease the 'missing you' part 😃 Take care... hugs!! 🤗

Edited by Nia.D - 13 years ago

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shreya_l

@shreya_l

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

My eyes have lost their brightness, sight is dimmed; my fingers worn,

With nothing on the wall the days since I was left forlorn.

My finger has worn away by marking (on the wall) the days he has been absent while my eyes have lost their lustre and begin to fail.

He comes again, who left my side, and I shall taste love's joy,'-

My heart with rapture swells, when thoughts like these my mind employ.

My heart is rid of its sorrow and swells with rapture to think of my absent lover returning with his love.

O let me see my spouse again and sate these longing eyes!

That instant from my wasted frame all pallor flies.

May I look on my lover till I am satisfied and thereafter will vanish the sallowness of my slender shoulders.

~ Thirukkural (Mutual Desire)

Piya ki khoj lagati hai anthheen, itne mein hua us par vaar sangeen!

Search for beloved seems endless, in the meantime she is hurt!

Kaun hai yeh naya namoona? Jo ud ud kar hai chipak raha?

Payal kare pyaar ka intezaar... Dekho ho rahi hai bezaar!

Who's this new sample? Who's trying to establish acquaintance?

Payal is waiting for her beloved, while waiting she is getting restless!

Ek dooje ke hone ka ehsaas, ab door nahin dono...hain bahut paas.

Hoton par hai bas tumhara hi naam, sun kar tumhe laut aayi hai meri jaan,

Le pa rahin hoon main chain ki saans.

Both can sense each other, they are not far...but very near.

It's your name that is on my lips, hearing you I feel my life has returned,

Now I can breathe again!

Ek chakor ko hoti hai jaise chaand ki chaah,

Ek boond swati ko jaise tarasta hai Papiha...

Jaise baarish to tarasti hai sookhi dharti,

Jaise jal bin tadapti hai ek machli...

Mera astitva bhi tha kuch vaisa...

Teri ek jhalak ke liye jo man mein thi pyaas,

Dekh tujhe dil mein bas ab bhara hai ullaas!

Like a chakor yearns for moon!

Like Papiha yearns for the drop of rain which falls under Star Swati...

Like the earth which is parched and dry without rain,

Like a fish which dies without water...

I was like that...

I yearned to see you once,

Now that I can see you my heart is filled with joy!

Pal bhar ke liye bhi ab choote na saath,

Karni hogi yeh badhaa paar tabhi hogi mulaqat.

Kaise hone doon tumhe nazaron se oojhal,

Sang raho tum mere ab har pal.

I do not wish to part from you even for a moment,

We can only meet when we cross this barrier.

It's hard to let you vanish from my eyes,

Please stay with me from now on...

Chot sehne ka mila ek laabh, nahi to kaise hoti meri aap se baat.

Burai mein bhi dekh rahi hai achaayi,

Sitam seh kar bhi kar rahi hai badaayi.

Beh raha hai nayanon se neer...

Man hai prasann, chal rahi hai prem ki sameer!

There is a benefit in getting hurt,

Otherwise I wouldn't be here to speak with you.

She is seeing goodness in the worst,

Although she has been hurt yet she is praising.

Tears are falling incessently from her eyes...

Heart is happy...as the love is in the air!

Aaj dikh raha hai jaise ek naya roop,

Jaise dono hain jaante ek duje ka anthrik swaroop!

Jaise taj diya hai dono ne har ek gun, bas hriday hai aaj prem-magn.

Today we can see a new appearance,

Like they both know their internal beauty.

Like they both have shed their qualities (Good & bad both),

Today their hearts are filled with love!

[Chakor = Bird (Chukar Partridge), Chaand = Moon, Chaah = Desire, Boond = Drop, Swati = One of the 27 Nakshatras (Nakshatra = Star), Tarasana = Yearn, Papiha = Bird (Common Hawk Cuckoo) ]

Titbit - It is believed that Papiha endures a 4 month long drought to drink only when the rain falls under Swati (star constellation)!

A story here those who are interested to read more...

http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedic-astrology-jyotisha/603825-greatness-swati.html

Tanthya loved to read you analysis yesterday...esp believe that truth alone matters...it is always best to tell the harshest truth than sweetest lies😊

Pam I'm in 100% agreement with you when you say a person of Shyam's character will never change...but then again nothing is impossible for CV's...😕

Sunshine Love the way you classified the viewers demographics...and their respective reactions👍🏼.

Nia Loved the whole epi with pointers and their significance👍🏼

Sree will definitely try to translate and place it here...(English translation will be delayed though I'll try to put them together)

Thanks to Sonshine, Joyvg, Shanti, Sree, Doodle, Vasi, Ria, AP, Lizzy and the Like team.

A big🤗 to all those who read thank you!

Edited by shreya_l - 13 years ago

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--Anna--

@--Anna--

Sparkler

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#10

I have written my thoughts about the episode today but the only reason I am here is to confess of my love for Sathu and to make her believe that her baby is NOT going anywhere and she will be back after the break.

Sathya - I love you loadsss!!! Thank you so much for understanding me and no REDUX never crippled me - it gave me a new way to look at things and I just got washed away with it - my fault totally! REDUX is and will always be my home and Anna promises to be back!!

Some time and I shall stand up to your expectations of me!

Love and Light :)

Anna

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