What is Payal's PURPOSE in life? Feminist POV - Page 3

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Posted: 13 years ago
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i have been thinking about this for quite some time now
u have a good point
may be after the MU clearance & that so called zabardast twist she would be more useful towards the storyline
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Posted: 13 years ago
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payal's purpose in life is to do laundry!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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well i thikn that girl is running that house... cuz khushi as much as i love her is obsessed with her husband and his actions and only steps into the kitchen for her stress reveling cooking sessions and i never see her clean after herself. who do u think gets stuck doing all that payal.

u know i would like episodes where payal is sad that she is always ignored and how khushi is more liked and is always upstaging her at everything. what ever payal is good at khushi is better and she seems to have no probs with it. khushi wins all the competitions and clearly got the better raizada.

if not that .. can they show the sisters have a heart to heart. i mean khushi married arnav overnight and payal seems the least bit interested as to y it happened. she cared for like a week and then just forgot abt it. i hope she gets some role in the future.

they really need to develop her character.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara

well nice topic...:-)

the thing is not every person has a very well defined or obvious purpose of life..u know she is a stay at home house wife, who is neither ambitious nor over expectant.. she is like the proverbial vine that wraps around a tree, never a tree herself..but like vines that exist, she does too..

she is a quiet presence, that doesn't draw much attention to herself..they r not in need of an extra income, have more than enough wealth for her to not raise a finger n lay in comfort..and right now she is newly married, trying to adjust to this unexpected wealthy life away from her humble home..
and she has been groomed to be a wife and a mother all her life..most girls from her status, that r not highly educated r like her. not like u or me who has thought of nothing but exam after exam half our lives..

and well khushi broke away from the mold of the norm..she was like the son (u know the middle class mindset wise) of the house that they never actually had..remember how her parents used to take her to do their accounts work, speaking out against things n the 1st few episodes in Laknow?.. and payal always fulfilled the role of the meek daughter.

and therefore i can't say i blame payal for not caring for her mayka, cz according to the mindset that she was brought up, a married daughter's home is her sasural n she hasn't got anything to do with her mayka.. so unlike khushi who always broke the norms n created her own rules n limits, payal plays within the age old traditions of a small town..

a year or so later she will have a baby with her hubby, n then her small world will be filled with her hubby n baby..then probably another baby n her whole life would be spent caring for her family being their for their small needs..
always in the shadows..but quite essential too..

i don't condone this for myself cz frankly it'll drive me insane..i am too independent for that..but there r lives like Payal's...so well how can we judge if one life is better than another?



I know what you mean. I agree that maybe Payal is setup this way to move on from her own family. I also see what you are saying about Khushi being like a son. Most Indian sons are expected to do that and when the daughter does it she is seen as a boy. But not all boys are that amazing, many abandon their families. Khushi to me is just a daughter, a very good and responsible one. There Payal contributed too by taking care of the household and keeping peace between Buaji and Khushi. But nowadays the character gets no screen time. That is really what I am saying. There's more to Payal.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wish they could improve with her character sketch a little bit.. 😳 I esp loved the scene after Guest House when Arnav dropped Khushi to Buaji's house and Payal confronted him and became a lioness for her sister. 😳 I would LOVE to see such scenes.. And may be they could focus on Arnav-Payal bonding as well.. 😳 I agree with ur post. Feel bad for Deepali..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: CDlove

well said ! 👏👏👏

Its kind of harsh to judge Payal in that manner. She does have a sense of purpose in life. Not like us women who are career oriented; but she does have her own way of looking at what she wants. After all it's all a matter of perception. What we think is good might not be good for her and vise versa.
Its how she's geared to live and she's living her dream.



I am not looking down on her just because she is not career oreinted or like Khushi. Khushi is innovative but she's not a high achiever either. That is okay too. They have shown these girls as having less opportunities than an Anjali who also spends most of her time being just like Payal. But Anjali's character has scope, she is the caretaker of the house, her mood is reflected on everyone, her opinion matters, she's respested, revered, she takes care of Arnav and her husband. Whereas this poor Payal character has barely a role to play. I am just saying the character needs more purpose, more depth. It has been long enough. She has been ill used since February.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Good points raised by you Mary! I dont understand why they cant show Payal being more sensitive to the issues of Khushi! I know she is newely married, but her sister IS living in the same house as her!

I also dont understand how she just fills her days with making a meal or two and walking around RM and trying to see if Akash ate?
Personally I could not handle such an existance! But that is me! I am married too and have a child and a home, but I also have a career! These days, I dont have as much time for friends coz my career and marriage takes up 95% of my time! However, sometimes certain things do get a bit compromised after you get married, coz you just dont have the same life anymore!
Girls like Payal are bought up to be "stay at home" Mum's! Khushi is independant, and wants more from life! (In a way, Khushi was forced to think beyond a career as a wife and Mother after her arrival in Delhi, and the entrance of ASR into her life!)... HE broke her out of her "Mould" in a sense, and made her step outside her comfort zone!
Payal on the other hand, has continued on the same path she was on in Lucknow! The only differance now is that she has married into a wealthy family, as opposed to a middle class family! However, she has had enough eduction and knows enough english and is clutured enough to surive at RM!Lets hope the CV's give her a job to do! Just like Manorama has a job to do!
Point to note: I DO have a lot of respect for stay at home Mum's! My Mother had a career and still does, and so do her sisters! But my Dad's two sisters were stay at home Mothers! They were bought up to be home makers! Neither of them went to Uni, where as MY Mum and her sisters are highly educted with post graduate degrees!
For this reason, my sister and I chose education and careers as well as eventually settling down with guys of our choice! So to each their own! There is no "Right" or "Wrong" way to be! However, I DO have an objection to people who have NO purpose in life but to dress up and play house!



Very good take MrDarcyfan, you read my post in the sense that it was meant, thanks for that. I agree that Payal is moulded like this. Khushi was too, remember that dream of her calling her Jiji and talking about what she cooked that day? They both wanted to be that settled, stay at home type. Arnav definitely broke that for her, Arnav and their financial situation. It did her good too.

I know plenty of stay at home moms and I have utmost respect for them. I personally cannot imagine the incredible amount of work it takes to take care of a family and children (not married). And I am not demeaning Payal for that at all. My feminist take is not to disrespect her choice in life but to defend it. My mother also has a post-graduate degree and she chose to leave her career for me. She was a stay at home mom and now she is working again. Those were her circumstantial choices and she has been a strong woman throughout. My friend was one of the smartest performer at her Ivy League school and she is choosing to be a stay at home mom. She is no less because of her choices. I have great respect for every path a woman chooses.

I am saying Payal just needs more depth in her own life choice. She and Akash do make the parallel couple, the secondary couple. All we have seen them as since February has been as are tortured bahu-beta or Bubbly babysitters. Why not a stronger, more communicative relationship between the two couples? Why can't Payal talk to Arnav? They had the potential to have such a strong relationship. Khushi has that with Akash to an extent.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Marybarton


I know what you mean. I agree that maybe Payal is setup this way to move on from her own family. I also see what you are saying about Khushi being like a son. Most Indian sons are expected to do that and when the daughter does it she is seen as a boy. But not all boys are that amazing, many abandon their families. Khushi to me is just a daughter, a very good and responsible one. There Payal contributed too by taking care of the household and keeping peace between Buaji and Khushi. But nowadays the character gets no screen time. That is really what I am saying. There's more to Payal.



ya the stereotypical mindset of what is expected of a daughter n what is expected of a son is embedded in this middle class mentality the gupta family is shown to have..and as u said when a daughter steps in to the role that a son is traditionally expected to fulfill she is called a son..
i know it is unfair..but here the point is not whether it is unfair for us or not..
i was brought up with a younger brother with just the same opportunities, albeit a bit more protected and fussed over..but never restrained..so i get what u say..
the thing is for us educated viewers it seems like her character is being wasted..but well my question is, 'is any woman whose life in reality is like that wasting her life?'
and for that my answer is 'No! she is not cz that is another way of life, just like ours'

hm..anyway on the other side i see ur POV.. i wish they gave her more scope..and i personally believe they'll quite soon...the moment the lid blows off the arnav-khushi equation n the truth comes out, Payal will probably have a very big role to play...
cz fact is whenever in a khushi arnav face-off khushi got injured or in anyway blocked Payal took the bull by the horns n dealt with it! n to everyone's surprise Arnav listens to her quite meekly too!
so keep faith..
they'll hopefully fix it...specially as u said for Deepali's sake, n not the character called 'Payal's' sake:-)

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Posted: 13 years ago
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My theory is she is there to fill in weird gaps that this series have...by the looks of it there are few but even then she doesnt do much...i couldnt understand her marrying akash to begin with...okay first she is shown as a girl who will never marry no matter what and then when mr i dont have a spine decides to kill himself she marries him?????? well lo and behold who knew it was that easy???
Anywho now the unspeakable is done and she is married but she is not even a trophy wife...she is how shall i say it???just there...i think of her as this lint on the shirt which is there but you cant get rid of it as your had doesnt reach that far...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I totally agree with your post... Her character really had lot of potential..had they utilised her..I mean when she comes on screen ..I literally yawn all time...I agree with you they should have shown us her bonding with khushi atleast now and when she senses shyam as danger for khushi ..look out fr her in that sense..or there was very bright chance to strengthen her bond with Arnav..and what abt her own family..I mean does only khushi care about her family..khushi provides for his family...visits her home with her husband..stays there..take care of ill father...what does payal do..just dont get what she is trying now..her scenes with Akash too are very boring..

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