IP REDUX; Fables !!! Edited on Pg. 1[NOTE pg.27] - Page 3

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--

"chah kar bhi main tumse door kyun nahin reh pati,

Shayad mera dil tumhe pukarta hai

Par inn aankhon mein nafrat dikhayi deti hai

Kyunki mohabbat inme dard ban ke rehti hai,

Kaash main tumse nafrat kar pati

Kaash main tumse mohabbat kar pata"


This was the only reason I started watching IPK otherwise I might not have given it a second thought. I did not know who BS and SI were as I had not watched any of their previous shows.

Yesterday I watched the episode like a layman. I watched it without any expectations and without trying to decode and decipher what were the hidden meanings. I don't need to say but I was disappointed with the execution. I know what this is leading to - the major confrontation that we have all been waiting for - but if for one moment we forget Doodhs and Sathya and the wonderful decoding that they do for us - What was the episode actually trying to project!? And I mean on face value.

I have said something similar in my reply to Doods analysis

Was it trying to tell us that if a wife comes to know about the kundali dosh in her husband and thinks that he wants to kill her she should decide to go and jump off a terrace herself!? Was it trying to tell us - in any situation death is the perfect solution!? Was it trying to tell us that suicide is the best option to solve any problem!?

Completely agree - very bad execution and sending out a wrong message. The are making a mockery of a serious issue like suicide.

The reason I started today's analysis with the first promo dialogues is because this was the promo that got me excited to watch the show. As by now all of you must know that I am not much of a fan of comedy but intense and heart wrenching scenes - and when this promo aired - I expected the same - at least the same when it was needed and more than ever that seriousness and that intensity was needed in this track. The above dialogues - fit aptly in the current MU track. If I am to just give a basic input on how it fits in - They love each other but both are unaware. She sees hate in his eyes but he loves her and that love hurts him for he is in a MU. She wants to hate him for all that he has done to her - trampled her dreams and hopes but she cannot and on the other hand he wants to love her - but he cannot for he thinks she is responsible for breaking his sister's marriage. Totally apt in the situation they are in currently - but where is the intensity!?

Khushi Kumari Gupta - If there was one reason I liked her, it was for her spirit, her optimistic attitude, even if I forget the OTT done by her and take it as her mechanism of her hiding her pain behind it all - I can never imagine Khushi - THE Khushi to give up so soon! I would expect her to fight not to go jump off the building! If I have ever admired Khushi - it is for her courage to stand up against Arnav (and I do not mean where she was OTT) but I mean where she decided to teach him a lesson when she thought he was doing black magic on her, when she threw the resignation on his face - that was Khushi! When has Khushi given up!?? This girl did not give up when Arnav forcefully married her - This girl did not give up when he threw her out in the cold outside the room, this girl did not give up when she was blackmailed - She fought back and fought back how - making his life HELL!!

Where is this Khushi? We need to see her back. Hope she gets back to her previous self once the truth is out and goes back to RM to prove her innocence.

And today she decides to suicide because she thinks that her husband has some Kundali dosh and wants to kill her!? What will she do when she thinks that Arnav thinks that she and Shyam are having an affair!? Is she really 23!?? I can only pray to god that this was the last of the crappy execution because frankly as a layman it wasn't an episode with the right message. My sister has already given up on the serial and when my Dad watched it with me yesterday - he was like "What crap do you watch?" and left! If this is the way it continues - only fan bases of Sanaya and Barun will watch it - the rest would give up on it and hence the TRP's would result in a downfall like it has for the last week. Guess can only keep our fingers crossed for what is to come.

Coming to the episode - It was out and out an episode for Khushi for me. If I seclude her ridiculous thinking of suiciding -which does not have the justification that Arnav pushed her to it - because if it does - then it means she has NEVER understood who Arnav Singh Raizada is actually - then the episode was all about how many lives has she touched and how many lives she plans to touch when she even decides to die. I am sure there were hidden messages - but I did not see any persay so I would not even touch them -leaving it to Sathya Doodhs and Nia.

Khushi Kumari Gupta Sigh Raizada's wild imagination and the WILL
So Khushi decided that Arnav was out to kill her and she decides to make Jalebis's to relieve her tension - but then comes Kamlesh Khabri and she imagines herself dead. Then comes the reaction of the family members over her death - and I must add if she is OTT - then her imagination of the reaction of her family members is also a bit over the top. So everyone was there crying over Khushi's death - her Buaji was howling and asking to go with her and Payal was throwing herself on Akash howling. It was funny but not really. Laxmi ji's bit was also nicely done and Arnav's "What the" - what to say about it!?
All in all this scene was about how much khushi has touched everyone's lives - be it the family members, strangers and even Animals. Thought I fail to see the actual significance because this is something that we all know from the beginning - but well - kuch dikhaya hoga toh soch ke hi dikhaya hoga.
Then comes Arnav giving her the milk and she refusing to drink it. Personally I would have liked it if she would have asked him to drink it - that would have been so Khushi - nevertheless she does not drink it and does not even get a night's sleep because she is caught up with the fact that Arnav wants to kill her. And she is scared to such and to such an extent that she tries to strangle herself with the pillow and then starts her wild imagination that she should kill herself than die of the hands of Arnav Singh Raizada.
Then comes the most important part the WILL - Khushi being Khushi - decides to leave something for everyone - The jar of muraba for Anjali - and her first thought is Anjali - that shows how much she cares for Anjali - if only Arnav can read the diary aka the will and realize that the first person in the will is Anjali. The second person - Nani, who she leaves back the shiny shoes from Lucknow that goes with Nani's gulabi dress - shows that she knows that how rooted is Nani to her ground and to her roots - to Lucknow. The third -Buaji -she leaves all her money to her - because she knows that money is needed to run the house and since they are all staying at Buaji's place - Buaji will need it all - Fourth- her parents - Garima and babuji -what can a daughter give them!? - Everything would fail in comparison to what they give us -so she leaves them all the love she can muster. She is about to close her diary when she sees the stars hanging on her bed -and no surprise that she must have left them to Arnav for stars means a lot to both of them - it is their understanding of each other that somewhere in the stars reside their parents. If only Arnav can read it and realize that she has left her everything to people who mean to her the most -Anjali, Nani, Buaji, Garima and Babuji, Payal and lastly Arnav.

Arnav Singh Raizada and his comfortable demeanor

I have always said Arnav is more relaxed and at ease in the Gupta Household thah he has ever been in Raizada Mansion. Yesterday again we saw that - him being comfortable with Buaji and Garima. The difference between house and home is established through Arnav's actions and manner of his conduct. He helps around the house, he asks Garima to rest, he keeps asking Khushi whether she is okay - he notices small things - what else is to show - that if he had a different upbringing and if the situations were different he would have been a different man all together.

Pointers

1) Not going to cover on Bubbly Payal and Akash - covered that yesterday

2) Did miss shyam again! I see obsessed with him. But I would rather see Shyam than Khushi act like a mindless chick of 23 years old.

3) Barun looks good in white

Favorite Character of the day

Arnav Singh Raizada for his character growth ' he cares for Khushi and that was evident in his behavior yesterday and plus loved his interaction with Buaji and Garima respectively.

I can only hope that we get seriousness and intensity back now. It is needed. I was watching the show that follows IPKKND - and what emotions!! My interest will shift if the execution is not visible to my eye which is not. I want to see the reason why I started watching the show - which was the first promo and I really do hope to see it soon.

Is this the sister wala show you are talking about? If it is I really liked the episode today. They are starting on the intensity of their central track now.

Love :))

P.S : I read all the posts but I hardly get time to comment separately on each once because of work and study commitments. I saw many people remembered me when they saw Shyam yesterday and that did make me smile.😉 I do not get a chance to thank everyone but I am doing it now. Thank you all for your lovely comments and more so for even lovelier write - ups on Redux - so many views makes the episode decoding interesting. 🤗



Nice analysis and pointers, My reply is in purple above.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: soap-critic

<font color="#660066">Fabulous analysis and weaving of different fables to showcase the big picture. WOW - what a complex web the CV's have created. How on earth is the lay person watching the show going to decipher all this? After I watched it I did not give it a second thought and was just relying on the maata and pita of REDUX - you and Tanths to decode it.

The only little bit of connection my 3 working brain cells could make was the scenario related to 'suicide'. From Arnav's FB's we can safely assume that his mom committed suicide and it was not an accidental shot that killed her. So I thought when he will witness Khushi's attempt all his past demons related to it will surface and will lead to the outburst of telling Khushi the truth.

I hope the comedy circus ends now and we go back to intensity and seiousness of the characters.
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<font color="#660066">And finally Doods please explain the sentence -</font> <font color="#990000">'If I never watch IPK again...' - what was that? 😲</font>



Your suicide take is right I guess ... Another thing to add to it is his mom, as we have assumed, committed suicide because of his husband. Here Khushi is doing the same making Arnav similar to the man whom he probably despises most - his father. Reason enough to lose his cool!
Edited by Omoraboti - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello everyone

I don't know about anyone else, but I was extremely disappointed with yesterday's episode. I am not good with words but I'll try to put my views across as best as I can. I'm not disappointed with Khushi or Arnav or any of the characters. I am disappointed with the way they have chosen to show K contemplating suicide – "Comedy???"

They could have shown it in a more sensitive/serious manner - IF they had to show that at all!

Here in the Adolescent health prog. we visit schools and give the kids a questionnaire – one of the questions being – have you ever thought of suicide? – and if they answer "yes", even if it was only once, however long back it was, for whatever reason; - they are immediately sent in for counseling. OK Khushi is no adolescent, and this is just a show, we should watch it only for entertainment purposes, and we must not expect them to deliver social messages in every episode, etc…etc…etc… I understand all that. But shouldn't the PH show some responsibility. They want to show K thinking of suicide, OK show it, no problem. But why in such a comic way?

When I was in school 2 second cousins committed suicide. While in college 3 college mates and siblings of 2 classmates did the same. It was horrible at the funerals – the state of the loved ones they left behind!

May be I am overreacting, maybe it was just the mood I was in while watching the episode, but I didn't enjoy it much.

Doodleberry, I don't know if this is of any help, but didn't sleeping beauty prick herself with an enchanted/cursed needle and fall asleep for a 100 years? Your analysis is brilliant.👏 How do you do it? I wrote the above last night after watching the episode. I am in a better frame of mind after reading REDUX. Thank u 4 helping me stick to this show.😃

Appu
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Heelloo sweets.. I didn't say that I'll quit. I said after cracking this episode even if I stop watching I'll have no regrets... 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great DOODS !!! hamara kya hota agar aap nahi hote ??? 😲
we would have been going around in circles 😆 completely foxed ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Doodhs...

That was out of the world...Awesome...It was beyond imagination. After reading that day before yesterday analysis... was wondering what was left over...Yes...bringing down Shyam...altogether...is also a mighty task given the fact that Baby and Anjali are on his side.

But you know what he should share equal space with ASR and Khushi...CV's should work on it. I think it will happen after MU Clearance and Confession. But cant predict.

The Payal stuff...what rings me is that again she may get to know the reason behind wedding...though which source...that I don't know...becoz even Shyam knows the reason now.
Here also a "but" comes ..."6 months contract"...will she know that...then it should come from Khushi..Apart from Khushi who else can take on with so much confidence and conviction to ASR...Payal...she will play a role in MU clearance...thats sure...if she knows the whole scenarion of ASR Khushi wedding...she may nail down ASR to earth with the fact the video tape released by him sabotaged Khushi so much.
I cannot think of anything beyond this.

Brilliant again


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonshine

Hello everyone

I don't know about anyone else, but I was extremely disappointed with yesterday's episode. I am not good with words but I'll try to put my views across as best as I can. I'm not disappointed with Khushi or Arnav or any of the characters. I am disappointed with the way they have chosen to show K contemplating suicide ' "Comedy???"

They could have shown it in a more sensitive/serious manner - IF they had to show that at all!

Here in the Adolescent health prog. we visit schools and give the kids a questionnaire ' one of the questions being ' have you ever thought of suicide? ' and if they answer "yes", even if it was only once, however long back it was, for whatever reason; - they are immediately sent in for counseling. OK Khushi is no adolescent, and this is just a show, we should watch it only for entertainment purposes, and we must not expect them to deliver social messages in every episode, etc'etc'etc' I understand all that. But shouldn't the PH show some responsibility. They want to show K thinking of suicide, OK show it, no problem. But why in such a comic way?

When I was in school 2 second cousins committed suicide. While in college 3 college mates and siblings of 2 classmates did the same. It was horrible at the funerals ' the state of the loved ones they left behind!

May be I am overreacting, maybe it was just the mood I was in while watching the episode, but I didn't enjoy it much.

Doodleberry, I don't know if this is of any help, but didn't sleeping beauty prick herself with an enchanted/cursed needle and fall asleep for a 100 years? Your analysis is brilliant.👏 How do you do it? I wrote the above last night after watching the episode. I am in a better frame of mind after reading REDUX. Thank u 4 helping me stick to this show.😃

Appu


I checked sleeping beauty too... but that didn't have the apple and the prince and the evil been punished... it should fit all the hints... you have no idea how my head was spinning today...

Thanks Hun 🤗
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: soap-critic



Nice analysis and pointers, My reply is in purple above.


Thank you Hema! 😊
Exactly I knew who Barun was and I knew who Sanaya was - but I started watching the show for the promo first and then for the actors. Barun came in my favorite list after the Teri - Meri sequence - otherwise it was the promos that had me hooked! But now I miss all the intensity.
The suicide was definitely a wrong message - and not everyone is on Redux - only 1% of us are lucky to be here - what about the lower middle - class people!? I could not believe that it was 23 year old girls mind at work. Damn! I am 23!!
Yes I was talking about that sisters wala - I do not watch it - but sometimes I do - but yesterday was beautiful - and the way the emotions were shown and carried out and the revelation of the truth in front of the lead guy was nicely done. Now dont you think this is missing from our show!? Frankly it did not even take me a minute to think why our show does not get the TRP and other show does!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: doodleberry


I checked sleeping beauty too... but that didn't have the apple and the prince and the evil been punished... it should fit all the hints... you have no idea how my head was spinning today...

Thanks Hun 🤗

i thought anjali is enchanted with Shyam and has been asleep 4 don't know, how long!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Doodhs - Replied to you on page 2 😉

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