IP REDUX; Fables !!! Edited on Pg. 1[NOTE pg.27]

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Hola Peeps. 😃

An episode that took me around 1hr and 2^nd round of watching to figure the theme of the track and took me another 2 hours to figure what are the tales taken from the collection. To be very honest I was completely stuck and absolutely was crying for help.

When I came online I saw Tant and Pam logged off but they never discuss with me about the episode anyway, so two options down. Then I saw Purvi (Purvimeh /Casper) online and asked her what is the story of Jackal and Deer??? She said - what??? I asked her again, why Khushi said - "Hiran" or what she said I didn't understand. Purvi then said - "I think it's Lamb". Then we concluded that there was no story of Wolf and Deer but there is one - "Wolf and Lamb". I told her that it's the second time in 3 days Khushi mentioned this story and I forgot all my childhood stories, even Google is not helping me with all. Purvi then said - what you talking??? There were dialogues and where the hell stories coming from into picture??? I messaged her - "Yes, darling there is and my brain is tired now". After sometime I messaged her do you know the story of "The cunning fox"??? She replied - "What??? Wait, where is that coming from again"??? I said the entire message of this track is - "Thakurmar Jhuli" which is "The Grandmother's bag of tales" in Bengali. The "Potli" that Khushi laid on the bed to make the Will. Interesting isn't it??? Purvi then said - "Damn, Fairy tales"??? I said - Yes and I need a Bengali to tell me the stories so I can be cleared of and Purvi is not a Bengali but she helped me to search couple of them when I provided the English names but then again I couldn't find almost many of them online. Even Google didn't help me today at all and I had almost forgotten all the stories as these are all childhood tales. Purvi then said - "you are gonna read them all now??? Chutti le le and open Redux later on". But I had to open as I know that today's episode didn't make any sense to anyone of you, so I told her, I have to open. Purvi was so nice to stay online just for me and help me find the stories and messaged me some of them and helped me to crack the stories. This was the toughest track for me to crack and I am really happy that it clicked me. Before I start I want to thank Purvi for being with me when I really needed her. Thanks darling. 🤗

Yes, I am happy today as really this track was the "Toughest" to crack till date. There were absolutely no hints and this was spread within last 3 episodes and it is designed in a hidden manner. Since Wednesday when the moment the track of Khushi's insane thoughts after cracking the "Da Vinci Code" as Anki profoundly had named to "AR 36 K", there were so many hints on this current track that it was in my subconscious mind but I couldn't link as the hints were completely incomplete. Today they completed some of the hints and I did crack it today, so, I am happy. Pheewww. Now, even if I quit watching IPK I will have no regrets at all.

"Fairy tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten" ~ G.K. Chesterton

"Thakurmar Jhuli" or "Grandmother's bag of tales". In every culture and in every generation, the collection of fairy tales or fables were part of every childhood. "Once upon a time there lived a ..." and thus the words frame the beginning of a magical journey full of excitement for young minds. Storytelling has occupied an important place through time in cultures across the globe and, in each, has attained an important conduit of expression of their integrated socio-cultural ethos. All these stories had taught us the morality between the good and the evil. There were some scenes placed in a haphazard manner and they all are weaved in such a way with the scenes from the stories tied with the innuendos. The reason 4 Lions have taken the stories is to not only design the episodes but to teach the moral of the tales.

Hence I have given the title as "Fables". What is a Fable??? A Fable not only narrates the stories but also illustrates the "Moral" of the same which is important here and the creative team has beautifully designed the future micro tracks keeping these fairy tales in mind.

Let me start, shall I??? I will list the stories that fit in the scenes and the innuendos and will describe the analysis story wise. There are a couple of stories where I have doubt as I still cannot recall the English one of it and would be glad if any one of you can help me in that.

Transcribing of folktales has a long tradition both in India and abroad. The Grimm Brothers and their collection of folktales established transcription and typography rules that remained valid for more than a century till the time of Propp's Morphology of the Folktale (1928).

Here goes the BRILLIANCE of the creative team:-

1. The Gingerbread boy

2. Snow White and 7 dwarfs

3. The Elves and the Shoemaker

4. The cunning Fox and the Goat / The Wolf and the Lamb

5. The curse of the needle (It's Brahman Brahmoni in Bengali)

6. Ringing Bell (I need to know the Indian version of this story) or Pied Piper of Hamelin

The first hint I had when last to last week Maami saw the mirror during the family tree time and asked the mirror - "I am the most beautiful, isn't it??" I curved my brows and then kept the thoughts aside as there were no such scenes to follow that up. Then came the second hint when I watched Khushi cutting the cucumber and she pricked her finger; I wanted to touch upon that but where was the follow up??? That episode was all about - "AR 36 K". So, left it there along with Khushi's insanity; The came the apple of Arnav which was the link to Sin, 36 and 40. So, it was all about Judgment, hence, left it there. Then came flower and the shrub scene which left me thinking but I didn't have any follow up. Since last 3 episodes I am seeing Khushi running away from Arnav in the fear of "getting eaten", I mean killed but still it looked like comedy to me and there were bigger message hidden so left it aside. Then came the biggest hint and that is the "POTLI" which helped me to decipher the whole current scenes and how the creative team have designed and used the "MORAL" of the stories. They didn't follow the stories per se, but they used them as a "Theme" and incorporated in their own way.

I will used the stories and link them with the scenes so that helps you all to understand.

The Gingerbread Boy:- This story is about the "gingerbread cookie" popularly known as the "The Gingerbread Runner" who keeps on running from everyone for the fear of being eaten. It didn't click me before but then when today she informed Payal about "Poori Kumari" then it clicked the story called - "Poori Jo Kadhai Mein Se Nikal Ke Bhagi", which is a retold version of European fables - "The Gingerbread Man". I was like, Dang it. Here it goes. Many of you can now relate to this story with the way Khushi was running away from Arnav for the fear of getting killed. In the story, the gingerbread boy jumps out of the oven and then keeps on running away from everyone on his way and finally came near the Fox. The fox then offered him to help cross the river and take him to land on the other side but in the middle of the river when the Fox suggested him to come sit on the nose, then the gingerbread boy waited until they reached the shore as he knew that the fox will gobble him up. So, when the fox reached the shore, the gingerbread boy jumped onto the rock and ran away saving himself. Here fox is Arnav as he is clever and also cunning. The same thing will happen on Monday when Arnav will try to save Khushi from jumping off the terrace then she will try to get to know the truth of the wedding and will save herself. Now isn't it amazing how the CVs have used a "Fable" to show the track? The only thing that lacked is in the execution and that Khushi is not a 9 yr old rather she is 23 years old and this was not needed but since Khushi is a girl who believes in fairy tales, the designing can be justified and not the execution. There were many such ways to take them to the terrace and depict the scene but certainly this execution didn't help at all.

Snow White and 7 Dwarfs:- I assume everyone of you know this story by Grimm Brothers. I presume the CVs have started thinking in this line because of the "Mirror Mirror" movie been released recently and they have taken the original version of the same because there the snow white will use the "roots (Jadi Booti)" to throw the piece of the apple and not the "Kiss". How did I arrive to this??? Well as I mentioned I had the doubts when Maami saw the mirror as she said - "I is the most beautiful here". But, Maami is not the evil one here. The evil one is Shyam that was confirmed today. Then the second hint was - "while cutting the cucumber, Khushi pricked her finger and got the blood". The third hint was - "Arnav with the apple". The fourth hint was today , when Khushi said - "Anjali di, yeh chamatkari jadi butiyon wala khaas morobba hum aapke liye chod ke jaa rahe hain, aap aur aapke bacche ke liye faayde mand rahega". Then came the fifth hint when she said "7 saal purana mojri", the number 7. The sixth hint was Arnav's holding the "Faasi ka fanda". Then the seventh and major hint - "Safed (white) shirt and safed Mojri and also the milk" and the last hint when Buaji said - "humara haath upar tak nehin pahunchta (which means Dwarf)". Any more hints you all want for the "theme" of Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs???

Of course not right. So, here the main villain is Shyam who will try to poison the baby later on and then the 7 Dwarfs - Guptas and Aakash and Arnav is the "Knight" will save Anjali and the baby later on. What a future track we will have now. In the original story a pair of heated iron shoes are brought forth with tongs and placed before the Queen. She is then forced to step into the iron shoes and dance until she drops dead but here Arnav was holding the "Ring of the rope" which means "Execution" for Shyam Manohar Jha.

The Elves and the Shoemaker:- I assume here also everyone knows this story. The first hint came when Khushi said - "Yeh Mojri Naaniji ke liye" and then I thought why she mentioned 7 years here. Definitely there is a link and then the "Piggy Bank" to Buaji. There should be the connection. Well what else than "Elves and the Shoemaker"??? Above all Buaji already had confirmed that she is the "Elf" with her innuendo - "haath upar tak nehin pohunchta". This is a story where "Humanity" is the main message and I and Tant have always said that it will be Buaji who will be helping Arnav and Khushi in defeating Shyam. In the main story the elves helped the shoemaker and the shoemaker and his wife helped the elves with clothes and shoes just before the celebration. Another hint of celebration when Khushi said she named one girl as - "Fuljhadi" and we use them in Diwali. So, the track for Shyam getting caught will end in Diwali mostly. Here cometh the hints of Buaji helping with the Rat medicine and many such innuendos where it's proved that she will help to bring out the real Shyam even with the file too. When she and the Guptas will help Arnav and Khushi, then she will also be helped to be financially independent as indicated when Khushi gave the "Piggy Bank" to her like the way the shoemaker and his wife helped the elves with what they needed. Here goes peeps the "Theme" of the story.

The cunning Fox and the Goat:- This story came to my mind when I heard Khushi saying "bhediye aur hiran ki kahani". But in general I am not aware of any such story of the wolf and the deer but I know the "wolf and the lamb". Then again, here I must take "the cunning fox and the goat" story because of the innuendo - "Maut ki meethai" and "Meethe muh ki maut". As per the story of the cunning fox and the goat, the fox felt very thirsty and he found some water in the well but he couldn't come out of the deep well but then he saw a goat and the goat being the gullible one fell in the trap and he jumped in the well to taste the "Sweet water", maut ki meethai. The foolish goat believed the words of the fox and jumped into the well. The clever fox climbed over goat's back and came out of the well easily. The foolish goat was left in the well.

The Innuendo of Khushi - "Safed shirt pe jalebi ki daag ki tarah jiddi hai" means Arnav will punish Shyam by hook or crook as he is stubborn. In this context, the same thing is going to happen as Arnav with the help of Buaji will put Shyam in his own trap and that's why it's said - "maut ki meethai" and "Chaashni mein lipti rehshyamayi maut ke saath kya raaz chupa hua hain". Chaashni means - "Sugar syrup". Arnav and Khushi and Buaji will allure Shyam to fall in the trap and then he will be caught. "Meethe muh ki mauth" means death of a sweet talker which is Shyam.

In this context either the cunning fox or the wolf and the lamb story will work where the lamb will sweet talk the wolf and then the wolf will be beaten to death.

The curse of the needle (It's Brahman Brahmoni and Kankanmala Kanchanmala in Bengali) :- I exactly don't remember this story because all my Bengali books are in India but this much I remember that goddess Sashti bestows the gift of bearing a child to the wife of a Brahmin by instructing her to eat a certain cucumber (Brahmon Brahmoni), this came to my mind when I saw Khushi eating cucmber and her finger pricked which is related to "Snow White". Then there will be a "Promise" broken between two friends which Khushi informed to Payal and then the word Kanta and Injection.There is a story if anyone can shed lights upon from any culture will be helpful. I seriously don't remember but there is a story definitely.

Ringing Bell:- This is related to the "Bell" that Khushi intended to tie around Laxmi's neck. I searched a lot but I couldn't find the Indian version of this story. I have read this Fable here in the States but I don't remember reading it in Bengali or Hindi. So, anyone knows this version let us know please. The story talks about a Mother who ties a bell around the neck of the baby lamb so that she can always find him. But then one day the wolf comes and the moment goes to eat the baby lamb his mother saves him by offering herself as the food. Then the lamb joins the wolf and one day takes revenge. Mom Sheep dies to save the kid lamb and then the Kid Lamb takes revenge when he sees the same situation which Khushi will be bringing here. I still am in ambiguity in regarding this story and the connection but it definitely is linked with the "Suicide" point that Arnav's Mom committed and which Khushi is also taking. So, I need help here or I need some more time to find a suitable story here. There is definitely a link here.

See the IRONY here. "ASR's Will" projected Shyam's Judgment keeping him tied with Anjali whereas "Khushi's Will" projected Shyam's Execution; Didn't they prove that Arnav is from North (wisdom/thoughts) and Khushi is from West (Conclusion/fullness) ???

This was the entire present and future track that the creative team has visualized and kudos to all the members of the team who have thought of this. I will still say the thought process was fantastic but the execution is what they really need to work upon. The "Snow White" they could have thought because of the "Mirror Mirror" movie of Julia Roberts just released a couple of months back.

Happy weekend to you all. Enjoy reading Fables. I leave you with the quote by Albert Einstein ~

"If you want your children to be intelligent, read them fairy tales. If you want them to be more intelligent, read them more fairy tales".

EDITED:- Well, as you know that I have said there is some story on the part of the broken "Promise", I have figured. This is was bugging me since Friday, and I first thought this is was something to do with Payal but NO, this is something to do with Khushi. One thing I was right that it will be around Duhsserah or Diwali. Since, Arnav's Will says, the way to AR is through Khushi, this story is for Shyam to allure Khushi and that is why Khushi said - "Dasvi Kaksha" to Payal. Which means the 10 heads of Ravan and this is how Shyam will trap Khushi. Remember Khushi said - Aloo kumar and Poori Kumari??? Because Aloo and Puri is Khushi's weakness and that is why we always see "Arnav Rekha" like Laskhmanji warned Sita Maa about not to cross Lakhman Rekha but she broke the promise when she saw the golden Deer; the same way Shyam will allure Khushi of something and she will fall in the trap. Shyam being the villain will not keep quiet when he will know the actual details of the file that ASR have prepared and here comes the killing part in the bed and the needle part IMO. This is how he will try to execute the plan for Khushi to acquire AR but she will be saved and Shyam will be executed by Arnav anyway as is said through the Snow White story. Thus cometh the reason for celebration and "Patakein" and remember Arnav said - "Aag ke saamne ho Khushi" on thursday??? which is Lanka dahan or Ravan dehan. Now the entire Friday episode falls and Khushi kidnapping will be like Ramayan which is during Duhssehra or Diwali.

[Don't panic peeps. I didn't say that I'll quit. I said after cracking this episode even if I stop watching I'll have no regrets... 😊 ]

IMPORTANT:- This is the first time Redux was gone under the scanner and please make sure this NEVER happens again. One REQUEST to all the readers that please NO Bashing and Comments on the Actors' off screen Activities as it is considered personal. I would like to thank all the members who were instrumental in reopening Redux and also to Khushi for taking time in reviewing Redux and reopening it. 😃

Edited by doodleberry - 13 years ago

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"chah kar bhi main tumse door kyun nahin reh pati,

Shayad mera dil tumhe pukarta hai

Par inn aankhon mein nafrat dikhayi deti hai

Kyunki mohabbat inme dard ban ke rehti hai,

Kaash main tumse nafrat kar pati

Kaash main tumse mohabbat kar pata"

Yesterday I watched the episode like a layman. I watched it without any expectations and without trying to decode and decipher what were the hidden meanings. I don't need to say but I was disappointed with the execution. I know what this is leading to - the major confrontation that we have all been waiting for - but if for one moment we forget Doodhs and Sathya and the wonderful decoding that they do for us - What was the episode actually trying to project!? And I mean on face value.

Was it trying to tell us that if a wife comes to know about the kundali dosh in her husband and thinks that he wants to kill her she should decide to go and jump off a terrace herself!? Was it trying to tell us - in any situation death is the perfect solution!? Was it trying to tell us that suicide is the best option to solve any problem!?

The reason I started today's analysis with the first promo dialogues is because this was the promo that got me excited to watch the show. As by now all of you must know that I am not much of a fan of comedy but intense and heart wrenching scenes - and when this promo aired - I expected the same - at least the same when it was needed and more than ever that seriousness and that intensity was needed in this track. The above dialogues - fit aptly in the current MU track. If I am to just give a basic input on how it fits in - They love each other but both are unaware. She sees hate in his eyes but he loves her and that love hurts him for he is in a MU. She wants to hate him for all that he has done to her - trampled her dreams and hopes but she cannot and on the other hand he wants to love her - but he cannot for he thinks she is responsible for breaking his sister's marriage. Totally apt in the situation they are in currently - but where is the intensity!?

Khushi Kumari Gupta - If there was one reason I liked her, it was for her spirit, her optimistic attitude, even if I forget the OTT done by her and take it as her mechanism of her hiding her pain behind it all - I can never imagine Khushi - THE Khushi to give up so soon! I would expect her to fight not to go jump off the building! If I have ever admired Khushi - it is for her courage to stand up against Arnav (and I do not mean where she was OTT) but I mean where she decided to teach him a lesson when she thought he was doing black magic on her, when she threw the resignation on his face - that was Khushi! When has Khushi given up!?? This girl did not give up when Arnav forcefully married her - This girl did not give up when he threw her out in the cold outside the room, this girl did not give up when she was blackmailed - She fought back and fought back how - making his life HELL!!

And today she decides to suicide because she thinks that her husband has some Kundali dosh and wants to kill her!? What will she do when she thinks that Arnav thinks that she and Shyam are having an affair!? Is she really 23!?? I can only pray to god that this was the last of the crappy execution because frankly as a layman it wasn't an episode with the right message. My sister has already given up on the serial and when my Dad watched it with me yesterday - he was like "What crap do you watch?" and left! If this is the way it continues - only fan bases of Sanaya and Barun will watch it - the rest would give up on it and hence the TRP's would result in a downfall like it has for the last week. Guess can only keep our fingers crossed for what is to come.

Coming to the episode - It was out and out an episode for Khushi for me. If I seclude her ridiculous thinking of suiciding -which does not have the justification that Arnav pushed her to it - because if it does - then it means she has NEVER understood who Arnav Singh Raizada is actually - then the episode was all about how many lives has she touched and how many lives she plans to touch when she even decides to die. I am sure there were hidden messages - but I did not see any persay so I would not even touch them -leaving it to Sathya Doodhs and Nia.

Khushi Kumari Gupta Sigh Raizada's wild imagination and the WILL

So Khushi decided that Arnav was out to kill her and she decides to make Jalebis's to relieve her tension - but then comes Kamlesh Khabri and she imagines herself dead. Then comes the reaction of the family members over her death - and I must add if she is OTT - then her imagination of the reaction of her family members is also a bit over the top. So everyone was there crying over Khushi's death - her Buaji was howling and asking to go with her and Payal was throwing herself on Akash howling. It was funny but not really. Laxmi ji's bit was also nicely done and Arnav's "What the" - what to say about it!?

All in all this scene was about how much khushi has touched everyone's lives - be it the family members, strangers and even Animals. Thought I fail to see the actual significance because this is something that we all know from the beginning - but well - kuch dikhaya hoga toh soch ke hi dikhaya hoga.

Then comes Arnav giving her the milk and she refusing to drink it. Personally I would have liked it if she would have asked him to drink it - that would have been so Khushi - nevertheless she does not drink it and does not even get a night's sleep because she is caught up with the fact that Arnav wants to kill her. And she is scared to such and to such an extent that she tries to strangle herself with the pillow and then starts her wild imagination that she should kill herself than die of the hands of Arnav Singh Raizada.

Then comes the most important part the WILL
- Khushi being Khushi - decides to leave something for everyone - The jar of muraba for Anjali - and her first thought is Anjali - that shows how much she cares for Anjali - if only Arnav can read the diary aka the will and realize that the first person in the will is Anjali. The second person - Nani, who she leaves back the shiny shoes from Lucknow that goes with Nani's gulabi dress - shows that she knows that how rooted is Nani to her ground and to her roots - to Lucknow. The third -Buaji -she leaves all her money to her - because she knows that money is needed to run the house and since they are all staying at Buaji's place - Buaji will need it all - Fourth- her parents - Garima and babuji -what can a daughter give them!? - Everything would fail in comparison to what they give us -so she leaves them all the love she can muster. She is about to close her diary when she sees the stars hanging on her bed -and no surprise that she must have left them to Arnav for stars means a lot to both of them - it is their understanding of each other that somewhere in the stars reside their parents. If only Arnav can read it and realize that she has left her everything to people who mean to her the most -Anjali, Nani, Buaji, Garima and Babuji, Payal and lastly Arnav.

Arnav Singh Raizada and his comfortable demeanor

I have always said Arnav is more relaxed and at ease in the Gupta Household thah he has ever been in Raizada Mansion. Yesterday again we saw that - him being comfortable with Buaji and Garima. The difference between house and home is established through Arnav's actions and manner of his conduct. He helps around the house, he asks Garima to rest, he keeps asking Khushi whether she is okay - he notices small things - what else is to show - that if he had a different upbringing and if the situations were different he would have been a different man all together.

Pointers

1) Not going to cover on Bubbly Payal and Akash - covered that yesterday

2) Did miss shyam again! I see obsessed with him. But I would rather see Shyam than Khushi act like a mindless chick of 23 years old.

3) Barun looks good in white

Favorite Character of the day

Arnav Singh Raizada for his character growth ' he cares for Khushi and that was evident in his behavior yesterday and plus loved his interaction with Buaji and Garima respectively.

I can only hope that we get seriousness and intensity back now. It is needed. I was watching the show that follows IPKKND - and what emotions!! My interest will shift if the execution is not visible to my eye which is not. I want to see the reason why I started watching the show - which was the first promo and I really do hope to see it soon.

Love :))

P.S : I read all the posts but I hardly get time to comment separately on each once because of work and study commitments. I saw many people remembered me when they saw Shyam yesterday and that did make me smile.😉 I do not get a chance to thank everyone but I am doing it now. Thank you all for your lovely comments and more so for even lovelier write - ups on Redux - so many views makes the episode decoding interesting. 🤗

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Hiii Alll Wonderful Girls ,

Hope all of you are having a lovely weekend ...

Normally it's my rule never to read any posts/Analysis in REDUX until I have penned down my thoughts but y'days chain of events drove me to broke this stead fast rule and I ended up reading most of the analysis and If my analysis seems to overlap ur's then please take due credit !!🤗

When I first read the title of the REDUX, I was filled with dismay ; The Romeo - Juliet Love story is now injected with Morals ** I had caught the episode in snatches and did not watch it in its entirety ** ..Then When I read through , I was like Holy Smokes !! we have got a whole book here !!😲 .. A Big Applause to you for patiently tracking down the stories and to Purvi too 👏👏..

Again , due to paucity of time, I will not be able to do full justice to the episode ..which to all intents appeared dis jointed , disconnected ...

When I saw Arnav holding the rope, I was like what the hell is happening to the characterization of Arnav, he is being domesticated to beat even the domesticity of domestic animal..I mean it was completely weird and out of line for Arnav to hold the rope [ since none of the ladies requested his help ]...Then Buaji says " My hand will not reach there "..that's when the TL glowed dimly & Hangman's noose was the first thought that came into mind , Buaji's hand will not reach up there , bec her own hand is not clean , she herself is culpable in the crime so how can she be the judge and executioner ...It is Arnav , The Just man who has the power, the rights to judge upon the action's of the other , The one who can stand tall and tower over others ..and It is he who is holding the Noose and judging Khushi' action's ..He has not passed his judgement yet but she is under purview !!

If I apply this logic, then I can make sense of Khushi's running and fleeing attempts ,,, As I had mentioned previously , Khushi is aware that hiding of the truth is unacceptable and at the same time she honestly believes that her actions are justified under the circumstances But who will dare to explain this to the cold, clinical , detached unforgiving Laad Gavarnor ..Who already has cast her in worst light !! were she to narrate the sequences , it will probably earn his wrath and his punishment , Khushi fears his judgement and not his punishment ...In the past REDUX, I had said Khushi is like a Goat and any sacrificial goat will not be lead into the altar meekly, it will protest and that is what Khushi is doing... Her flight is not out of guilt but out of desperation , She wants to be heard, she needs to state her reasons and she is trying to buy time to do that , She will not stay quiet and she will give the final bleat ...whether the Judge will choose to punish her or see the merit in her case is left to Arnav !!..and here the line " Jalebi's chashni staining the white shirt " reminds me of Burr which sticks to the skin not letting go ..Khushi knows the stubborn and adamant Arnav and he will be a man who will not be content with half truths, half measures...he will be like a burr and will stick to you until you yield all and the whole truth has the potential to split the family..Khushi the nurturer fears this event and is trying to stall as much as possible otherwise being the type of girl she is, she would have blurted out her fears to him and demanded answers for all the misguided clues she has been getting ..

Chaalen hai sab Chaal , ASR jaise naam thop ka ho par leke aaye Screwdriver !!

A confirmation that Arnav Singh Raizada is playing out a game ,The obvious strategy may have all the hall mark of cannon power, that might blast anyone in its path out of existence but it is actually a decoy, the real sting will come from a inconspicuous plant, a small thing that every one will neglect , That will be the deadly weapon which will take care of Shyam ...It could also a way for CV's giving us a hint that the explosive , interesting twist will begin quite unobtrusively while we are and will be dazzled by something else.

Sweet Death !! I donno , I just thought about Shyam when this line came on.. When you think of Shyam, You remember Sweet ..he is synonymous with Sweet, sweet words, sweet smile but with a black heart, A heart which can send you to death with the sweetest smile ...Khushi's instinctive repulsion is the revulsion of a girl who has seen through his facade and her rejection of him and her strong desire of not having anything to do with him ..This could explain why she distances herself away from the sweet , Ohh yes, he will try his moves but Khushi will not be amenable anymore and may actually take actions or counter his moves with her own ..This may cause grief or some discomfort in the family but she will not be deterred ..

Night comes, Khushi is found to be hungry and starved .. Garima heats the milk for Khushi , but does she give it , no It is Arnav who is the bearer of Milk, Who offers it to Khushi ..Does not enforce ehr to drink but keeps it by the side of the table .

Milk is associated with life.. A Human usually is said to have three stage, When he is born, the child is given the milk of life, values , character by the Mother , Second is when Marriage happens, ..Milk is given to a new beginning where ur life will be shared, ur troubles halved, ur happiness multiplied , Third time would be when they turn parents, when they assume responsibility of creating, nurturing ... Garima has already inculcated her values, has given Khushi a life by saving ehr from orphan-hood , Her duty is on standby, it is Arnav who has offered his hand in marriage to Khushi, Khushi is being offered life to be shared with Arnav but a distrusting Khushi rejects him , Arnav does not get angry, does not force her nor does he withdraw, he stands by, quietly, calmly waiting patiently for her to trust him again ...The acceptance of him and the life he offers must come from within, She must accepts him bec she wants to and not bec she is forced to ..hence the silent acquiescence of Arnav Singh raizada to her refusal to drink the milk of life..

Kab tak Bhagenge hum sachai Se, Kabhi Na Kabhi Laad Gavarnor ...!!

Khushi sleeps by the side of a man who never pretended , put up a pretense , who always was honest with her , who has told her that he has married her not out of love but bec had to save someone's life ...Arnav has not lied to her , He may have not been outright open but he has been indirect and has truthfully revealed the reason for the marriage ... What about Khushi's conscience , An upright girl like her with a strong Moral values, will it let her sleep in peace ?? ..It is said that one's conscience is at the strongest at night and It is Khushi who is trying to smother her conscience , to shut the voice that is indicting her ..She knows that her actions are censurable, so the irrational fear of Arnav, the withdrawing from the light, the distance from Arnav ...but she knows that her flight , her running away is futile , she knows that she can't run away from truth , The tireless Arnav will be after her to get to the root of the matter and she fears his reaction...

The treasures of Potli ;

Khushi chooses to bequeath her properties to the person's she loves .. She knows that she cannot give them any riches but she can give the essence of her very being..she proceeds to do so..

The Murabba for Anjali and the Baby ;

Why a Herbal murabba which supposedly will strengthen Anjali and the baby, why the glaring absence of childs father or atleast leave it for Anjali's family ... Is it bec , Khushi knows the the shocking aftermath will leave Anjali weak, devastated and the compassionate and ever helpful Khushi is trying to bolster Anjali's will to live , providing a balm to sooth her heart ... Khushi will not be there for Anjali bu she will find a way of helping Anjali indirectly and will bear no ill will towards Anjali or the child..

Ringing Of The Bell ;

Agamaarthamtu devaanaam Gamanaarthamtu rakshasaam
Kurve ghantaaravam tatra Devataahvaahna lakshanam

Means:

I ring this bell indicating the invocation of divinity, So that virtuous and noble forces enter (my home and heart); And the demonic and evil forces from within and without, depart. Khushi will be the means through which the bell will be rung !!

7 Years !! ..The Number Seven !!

7 is a symbol of spiritual perfection and is associated with Holy Spirit and It was Holy Spirit who sanctified and gave life to the church ...7 again is associated with Marriage .. So will it be after the devastating truth is revealed to Anjali , with the departure of the devil, Nani will begin the process of sanctifying the house, giving it a new life or will her role be restricted to sanctifying Arnav- Khushi relationship by getting them re married again in front of all and with complete acceptance of the family..

What claimed my attention was Khushi, who herself was responsible for the spreading the chaos, now carefully gathers them together, clears everything and entrusts the bundle to safety ..hinting that Khushi initial act may divide everyone but she herself will be the one who will unite everyone and bring them together !! also observe her statement, " Ab tho teekh hi rahenge ! "..Yes, it is only after finally unburdening herself will she find the elusive peace, the restless leaving her , her conscience allowing her to rest and also the relationship will stand a chance after the truth !!

10vi Kaksha !!

Again the ordinal number of perfection !! The number 10 is considered to be a most powerful number since it contains both 0 n 1 , 0 is the symbol of chaos [ Shyam's revelation and other secrets ] , it was out of 0 everything came out and 1 is the number which created something out of this chaos ..put together 10 is a number which ushers in new beginning ..if my original surmise from Teej is correct then Payal will be the one who will be bringing a new beginning into everyone's life ..Symbolically 10 is the beginning and end , the life and nothing ..

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Note this post has been written under the influence of Hunger and while engaged in cooking .. if my POV appears incredible, incredulous , hare brained , then Please keep the opinion to urself, You are however allowed to praise my work, flatter me, admire my handiwork and even appreciate it ...and You are given the full liberty to do so !! 😉
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vimmiya

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Posted: 13 years ago

Can I deviate from Arnav Singh Raizada today: Why not? Always there are exceptions to the rule. Today Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada takes my lead - it is not about a character, it is about emancipation - Women Emancipation.

The cataract from the Cultural riches of Oriental - to the barren desert of the Middle East to the Technological riches of Occidental, We as women look in for emancipation.

Women from time immemorial enact the paraphernalia conferred to her. We as women are compelled to do supreme sacrifice enacting these. What is emancipation? For me emancipation is not for the roles played - it is emancipation of thoughts - freedom of expression - liberty of exercising our choices

To be, or not to be: that is the question: Hamlet - William Shakespeare

Many questions confront with this soliloquy - whether to contemplate suicide or consider ourselves a body without soul, it is about exterminate or endurance to handle situation.

Suicide in our societies :

It is a daily event that we read people committing suicide - we all had direct or indirect experience of this malice. From the global percentage of reported suicide cases 20% is from India. A huge figure and southern states reports statistics is even more alarming. The people who attempt for suicide is ten fold.

We are reading some years about the suicide of farmers in Vidarbha in Maharashtra as they are unable to repay the loans, drought in the region, exploitation of intermediaries etc. Their reasons and justifications vary but the culmination is loss of human life.

Now looking from the age group: People who are under the age group of below 40 constitute 70% of the suicides case. We also see the female fetus abortion taking place that also forms a sizable statistics.

The latest suicide case that is going rounds is a young female of Northwestern region committed suicide due to racial discrimination in Amity University. Few months before an IIT female committed suicide reading the note in face book of her Ex-boy friend "Happy independence day" after they mutually split. Therefore, we are in a society where suicide is rampant - neither it is a new thought or a prerogative but considered as a failure of the civic society that we inhabit.

Today When Khushi after running from pillar to post to get away from the clutches of ASR - finally she receded to emancipate her body. Believe in suicide as a solution.

Suffering is a product of limited knowledge:

The reason that Khushi is taking this step is she is going through the process of "excruciating" situation. That is due to the limited knowledge she possess - that knowledge to be completed she want the help from the man who gave her the suffering. It is none other than the man she loved "her prince as well her beast".

I believe that ASR communicates better with the members of her family than her. Their relationship started due to the lack of trust and pursues with lack of trust and she is of the verge of suicide due to the lack of trust. Amazing isn't it.

Trust comes from various quadrants - Parents towards the children, teacher towards the student, Husband towards the wife and employer towards his employee and finally, the devotee towards his creator. Every relationship is quintessentially on the repository of trust. Unfortunately, the trust factor is silhouette in Khushi and ASR.

The person who fells for her was the mighty Arnav Singh Raizada - he subconscious gave in to the unknown emotion. That unexplored territory of love he passed it to Khushi during the cursed Diwali Night. That was the time she started with answers for his behavior but rebuked.

With pain and torment, she engaged the crook and still ASR did not stop pursuing her. The track of faraq padatha Hai came in. After the break up of both the engagement, slowly ASR again took the step, this time she wanted something concrete to rely on. She came him opportunities to explore his terrain

- On the road when ASR thought, she encountered the accident - when he asks her "What If I lost you? She asks him what impact it makes - no answers

- When she injured her hand with the broken bangle - still the same question and no answer.

There comes the fateful day of her wedding - that under extra-ordinary circumstances of threat and contractual six-month bond she married him. Still she wanted answers, she created opportunities to confront him, to question him, to understand him - Every strategy she adopted within her means and knowledge was equally unreciprocated. One such instance - "heer and Ranjha act"

She left no stone turned for him to come up with the reason; the main motive to take him to her household is to divulge the reasons. Here, she found herself a stranger than him, because he adjusted very well in this place.

Finally, her thoughts got a clue by the TV programme "Sacha Ka Khulasaa". The "Khundali" trajectory is not unknown to her, she previously thought ASR did black magic on her.

Why did she recede? She came to the conclusiveness that her husband does not love her and he will kill either her or when the six-month clause is over when she returns what will be the impact to her family and society. Where is the way forward for her? Further as a giver - she wanted him to be happy. Therefore, she takes this drastic step

Some places that captured my attention:

Yes, the lost sheep is back in his familiar pasture - ASR fixing the rope for hanging the clothes. The work handover over by Payal to Buaji prior leaving to RM. Having a screw driver to fix things - IIT Mechanic in action - Taking the milk to his wife from his corn mother. Amazing, the three Musketeers in action to find the reason for Sanaka Devi - Sanak.

Miss "B" at this age - your caliber is astounding for bringing in misunderstanding between adults. I think Mami ji should have taken your expertise prior, for she running out of ideas to prevent "Aakash and Payal" wedding. Miss "B" black magic is spreading in the skies of Aakash and Payal.

The "Bequeath of Will" - is really heart warming. In her pyramid, she gave priority and respect to her in-laws. The apex starts with Anjali, followed by Nani. For her the wedding irrespective of time is more significant.

She could have written a note to him about the reality of Shyam, she confessed her sins to Payal about reading her dairy, why did she hide even in death about the real truth of Shyam

I leave with these thoughts :

Happiness keeps you Sweet,
Trials keep you Strong,
Sorrow keeps you Human,
Failure keeps you humble and Success keeps you glowing,
But only Faith & Attitude Keeps you going..."**

So never contemplate suicide

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iritz

@iritz

Dazzler

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

Hello All,

Doods: Wonderful title and as usual a great analysis.👏
👏
I saw the episode last night, had a lot many confused thoughts about it... did I like it? Did I not like it?

If I have to confess, despite the OTT behavior of Khushi... I did laugh at certain times... her weird imagination of her own Shok-Sabha, the characters crying over her were bang on... from subtle Nani to the Page 3 Maami (with glares and all), to Payal attacking Akash's shoulders... not to mention HP and Lakshmi and of course Salman Khan. That scene actually cracked me up.

I guess we all loved the part where Khushi is writing her will... She thinks about people who are most loved by her, and Anjali remains at the top ! I was thinking why Anjali and why not Nani... she being the eldest member and the head. She was the one who loved Khushi the first time she met her ! And Khushi also seems most comfortable with Nani.

Then I realized for Khushi, Arnav is the most important person in her life. She may or may not accept it... but all her moves are related to Arnav... whether it is to love him or to annoy him... everything is related to Arnav. Sote-Jaagte... she wants Arnav's attention. And Anjali being the most important person in Arnav's life, automatically becomes the most important person in her will.

Again, this suicide track makes me think whether it has got something to do with Arnav's past... maybe his mother committed suicide. We don't know for sure... but it looks like it from the FBs. And therefore, it might lead us to see an angry, insecure site of Arnav... probably something will be revealed of his past !

At certain time, a lot many people on this forum have asked whether Khushi actually loves Arnav... she is confused or her character has been destroyed ! But yesterday, when she was leaving the stars for Arnav... I'm sure everyone's doubts has been cleared. Yes, she is crazy, yes she is OTT... but behind all the superficial smiles... there's a heart which beats for her husband... a husband who, from her point of view, has shattered all her dreams, who wants to get rid of her, wants to kill her... yet in her will, she has left him her most precious thing... ⭐️her stars⭐️... her amma-babuji, his amma... and herself... to look after him, to be there for him when he is lonely ! What do we call this... if not love?? Reminded me of the Vanessa Williams Song... Save the Best for Last !

I'm sure the CV's intend for Arnav to see the Will... at one point or the other... and as Doods would say, a loop has been opened ! 😉

I still don't know what to say about the Bubbly angle !!! It is morally wrong for a child artist to portray such devious character.

Hoping the next week would be more intense ! Off for the weekend... enjoy all !!

PS: Here's the song for you all...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EdmHSTwmWY&ob=av3e[/YOUTUBE]

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Lizzy2012

@Lizzy2012

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+ 4

Posted: 13 years ago

Let me start the write up with a note that Friday's episode didn't make any sense to me intially but when I thought about it for along time then I realized that they were trying to bringArnav's and khushi's love for each other out in the open slowly- be it Arnav saying tum theek ho or khushi leaving her stars to him...etc
The second thing I thought is that though they were building up the track towards arnav's outburst, they needed to bring about this without painting Arnav black or Khushi sensible..but the execution of this has been pathethic on the Khushi front...

"DIL cheez kya hai aap meri jaan lijiye"
Khushi is in this state right now..trying to give the only precious item available to keep her husband happy.she feels that the shaitan in her rajkumar wants her life ...why does she feel the need to give in ...she feels the shaitan would disappear altogether leaving a rajkumar not for herself but for somebody else...so instead of shaitan killing her she wants to commit suicide so that the her death is handed out to her in dignity

Tu hi Shabh hai shuba hai
Arnav- during the MU has started feeling helpless as the overpowering love is rearing it's head ,consuming him even after so Many attempts to suppress has failed...guilt and the live not expressed has taken it's toll
On Arnav... Softened his stance...so now the stage has been set ..to drive him to edge...fate is replaying the suicide story in his life...Yield he will to his heart... Open he will ..his secrets to his wife

Loved the Khushi the giver has shown to look at life through her husband's priorities ..she starts to

leave her possessions though measly to her loved ones...starts with her heart's loved one Anjali
and
the list meanders there on ...this list should really clear Arnav's clouded vision about his wife...
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Arnav is concerned on the other hand that his wife is acting weird even according to her
sanka standards ..he tries to express his anxiety and concern in his own way only to be rebuffed by
Khushi whose loss of trust is mounting day by day..
It is ironical that Khushi has become
uncomfortable in her own house whereas Arnav is more comfortable in GH rather than his RM...
Less
said about bubbli ,much better the child plotting was really in poor taste but that plot is moving towards
a crack in payash relationship..that much is clear..

Pointers-
1.Arnav and hangman's noose
-so it's Arnav who will finally lay the noose around shyam's neck
2.Khushi saying teen Bar kosish
kar chuke Hai means that Shyam has tried to kill .nAnjali thrice but the appearence of the noose at that
time means that the fourth attempt will be his last as he willbe judged by Arnav at that time with the
help of buaji...
3.khushi's will tells us khushi's top priority would be always protecting anjali as the
murabba she gives means health to the baby and Anjali... She gives mojari to Nani so that Nani is not
hurt by walking in the path of truth .bell to Lakshmi so that she warns the RM inmates of any evil
actions of Shyam ... Money to buaji which will not be given by her but by her husband to buaji ..

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showstruck

@showstruck

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Posted: 13 years ago

Wow doodle this is getting really hard. Thank you so much.

Why are you talking about quitting??

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Supna9

@Supna9

Rocker

Posted: 13 years ago

Hi sathya n doods,
so many thoughts n many things collects 1st time to write here n get rid 4rm my frustration watching last 2 epis. But work at home caught me n i v nw coming with my simple comments.
I want to write on harsh words, hate n concern n 4rm these what things hit da most to kkg 4 took dis biggest step.
Doods i appriciate ur efforts u doing such laborious job. Its really really appriciateable. Fabulous analysis but complicated .
Sathya ur nice short handi analysis.
"TANTDOODASTIC" work.
Nia d really really fantastic analysis. U nailed out kkg inner emotions .

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Omoraboti

@Omoraboti

Sparkler

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Posted: 13 years ago

@doods: brilliant as always! They should hire people like you to promote their serial ..!! Only with your analysis can the general viewers get the hang of the apparently meaningless episodes :) I will see if I can find my Thakurmar Jhuli and get back to you if I find something to help with your thought process. :)

@anna: great character analysis. Most people are not happy with the execution. At first, I too was not especially because I always though and preached that Khushi will never go for suicide. But then I thought about it and I wonder if the CVs really wanted us to feel how I finally deciphered it.

I remembered in one of the very first episodes, we were shown as if Khushi would commit suicide after Payal's marriage broke and then saw her making jalebis instead! We have loved this Khushi who has always put life before everything and we have seen her to bounce back many more times. Now, how. An that Khushi think of committing suicide? That is perhaps the message of the whole thing. She is a straightforward and simple girl who is never comfortable with intricacies. Since, Arnav has come to her life, her life has only become more complicated with every passing day. Last 3 months were more than complicated - she has got a fatal blow on her beliefs & dreams. To put it plainly, she is going through a psychological disorder. All the confusions & heartache have finally led her to that extreme point which we never thought she will reach.

The purpose of this whole thing to me is to smoother the upcoming track. Khushi's trust on Arnav is as low as zero now (she easily believes Arnav can murder her) and on the other hand, Arnav has softened and already feeling guilty. So it will be easy for Khushi now to hate Arnav and Arnav to repent. Also this will help Arnav realize how much damage his bipolar nature can cause and he will, I guess, learn his lessons to rectify.

I believe they have kept it comical just because of the reason Anna mentioned - is suicide justified? No! They will show, as it seems from the Precap, how Khushi will struggle to jump off. She has taken the decision but it is not how she is. Let's see how they execute it and I am curious to see Arnav's reaction.

Two lessons I think CVs are trying to give the general viewers. 1) dont take everything on face value: I am now pretty sure they have intentionally not shown Khushi's inner turmoil to us often. We have loved the bubbly, crazy girl and never realized how damaged she actually has been in the process. 2) communication is the key: any relationship needs clear & timely communication to flourish & survive. Period.

These are just what hit me as a general viewer ... I just love integrating your analysis with my general views & feelings! Hoping for a great ride ahead. :)

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yanka

@yanka

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Doods your ananlysis today is mindblowing!!!!!... i would never ... never... not even in my 7 lives would have thought of this... but now that you mention... it all clicks... 👏... hahahaha its like magic... you know there is something in the hat... but what you have no clue... and you are the magician who has just uncovered it for us!!... so your line "... even if i stop watching IPK..." did not go down well with me... why such negative thought? 😕

@Anna - lovely analysis - you all make redux a lovely world to be in! its strange how i come looking for it after every episode and more so when i am not sure i liked it or understood it... and voila Redux shows me the way... such engrossing and intelligent read...

... and i completely can relate to your feeling disappointed with the episode... the first time (yes i watched it again!) i watched the episode i was left dazed... but then i quite enjoyed it the second time in the re-run... i know I must be crazy to see it again... but i did... and have to confess... khushi's expressions were exceptional... the family moaning scene... even though OTT actually had me in splits... and the next instance i was sad when Khushi wrote her will... SI rocked in her scenes...

and BS was also bang on with his expressions... how quickly he has become an integral part of Khushi's family... and so comfortable with the affection bestowed on him by buaji and garima... oh how i am falling more and more in love with the two ladies!...

Anyways I think we have seen the last of the comedy episode... the next week will be the build up of the MU clearing... i am sure Khushi's suicide will tick off Arnav in more ways than one... one will be the thought of losing her but i think stronger will be the fact that his "Amma" also had taken a similar route... so if i am not worng intense scenes are in store for us... and IPKKND will touch a chord with all of us again...

@Tanthya - will wait for your analysis and then see if I want to add more to my post :)

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