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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tanthya fantastic analysis of Khushi once I knew.

I can not relate to this girl now at all. I am telling you tonight's episode made me want to strangle her

I hope after Asr faints because of her, she learn her lesson.

If only she applied her brains in the right direction she would have gotten her answers.

Also realize that a successful marriage takes a lot of work and patience.

I have to applaud Asr for tolerating her nonsense
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Posted: 13 years ago
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God Bless You Tants for giving us an insight into the life of Khushi - It was nice reading what you wrote from Khushi's angle... it makes a lot of sense... her world has really been brutally torn apart, and if this is her defense against it.. well, the below points speak out my thoughts...

KHUSHI - CHARACTER REVIEW

I've been seriously wondering about Khushi's character. Like I said in my previous few posts, Arnav's character is shown to be gradually changing (and we see that yesterday too). And then there is Khushi.

To me, she hasn't changed, deep down she's still the same natkhat, cute, caring, prankster, fun-loving and thoughtful person that she has always been, though circumstances have added a few edges to her nature. Let's view her under two lens - The Natural Khushi , and the Circumstance Khushi. Natural Khushi is the Khushi we've always known - the Khushi that was presented to us in the first few episodes, Circumstance Khushi is the Khushi that has new additions to her personality due to the circumstances that she has been going through...

THE NATURAL KHUSHI + THE CIRCUMSTANCE KHUSHI


I'll keep going into FB mode for Natural Khushi with a subsequent para of Circumstance Khushi connecting to it...

1. On rewinding my mind to the very first episode, Khushi comes across as a person who always prays to her Devi Maiyya before starting out on any task (big or small) - DM is her one constant support, friend and hope. She believes that DM will always help her, guide her, and bring light into her life. DM was constantly on her lips those days.

Now, after being blackmailed into the holy institution of marriage Khushi's dreams of her Prince who will envelop her in love and warmth, of a marriage with meaning, of the most happiest day of her life is shred to bits in one instant. For Khushi, marriage is a pure relationship, and to be part of a marriage that is soaked in betrayal, pain, hurt, and deceit, shakes the very foundations of her beliefs, values, faith and hopes. It is of no wonder then, that Khushi swears not to talk to DM after this marriage. The deity she worshipped so long, the one constant companion in her life, who she submitted all her fears, insecurities, sadness, happiness, wishes and hopes to didn't seem to be by her side anymore at this time. The fake marriage, the deceit has hurt her so much that she hardly talks to DM now. When she used to talk to DM, Khushi did maneuver her way out of difficult situations, but now, now that she rarely communicates with DM, we see her clutching at any straw to get out of the un-holy mess. (Her recent antics show that Khushi will use her own devices, or uses given hints about Arnav to get her way out of her circumstances).

2. Khushi has always been selfless, her actions always seek to bring happiness into other people's lives while disregarding her own happiness. She has always strived to keep other's happy (she is a bit of a people-pleaser, but she knows where to draw the line).

Yes, she did a mistake in not telling Arnav, Anjali about Shyam's truth, but she didn't only because she couldn't stand to hurt Arnav-Anjali-Payal. Khushi has never deliberately caused pain to everyone (not even Shyam till now!). Her true nature doesn't allow her to do that. She continues to do that even know- Anjali requuested her not to tell Arnav about her 'chakkar', and Khushi adheres to it - disregarding the thought of Arnav's anger upon her.

3. Khushi, is no doubt, a total idealistic person. She has always been lost in day-dreams, she's always full of ideas, plans, and has a bunch of innovative thinking that is stored in her mind. She wishes on a toota-taara, she dreams of stars twinkling, flower petals falling when she meets her Rajkumar, she sees her parents as stars in the sky and gives a whole freedom for her imagination to run anywhere it likes.

She still retains this powerhouse of ideas, innovation, and spirited imagination. It's just that they have been on the back-burner ever since her sudden marriage came about. When your ideals, hopes, wishes, dreams, beliefs and love are shattered with a cruel hand, it's perfectly human to repress your natural qualities in some deep recess where it's difficult for even you to reach out to. Khushi is currently in this stage - Her reserve of ideas pour out and are implemented - while she tries to annoy, and test Arnav's reaction to an overdose of love.

4. Optimistic - We all know how optimistic this girl is. She's been like this right from the start. She has never given up, she keeps pushing forward, she believes that there's a silver lining somewhere and she always endeavours to find it, and use it. A large part of her optimism had to do with conversing with DM. Everytime she would face a difficult situation a short 'Hey Devi Maiyya, hamara raksha karna' has always pulled her out of the stickiest muck she's got into.

But then happens Heart-break. Nothing causes a greater destruction of optimism than a deadly, mirthless, jabbing, crushing heart-break. This girl with a sensitive heart has been severely wounded by the man of her dreams. The man she loves, even though she hasn't exactly acknowledged it yet. There she was, thinking that 'something' is happening between them, she no longer has control over her rapid heart-beats when he comes near, the utterance of his name, sends her floating into space, one look from him, one word from him and she's rendered speechless... and then the next moment he turns into the 'Rakshas' of her first encounters - the Arnav Singh Raizada - ASR, making marriage a 'deal', destroying her image of love, crashing those unvoiced feelings for him, ripping her faith in him.. where will optimism come from after all this?

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Sensitive Khushi - she may be strong enough to fight mental battles, she may be clever enough to worm her way out of challenges, she may be courageous enough to face up to ASR, she may be witty enough to outwit him, she may be spunky enough to do as she likes - not bothered that she incurs his wrath, but she is sensitive to matters regarding her heart. One small prick to her heart and she breaks down - just imagine the extent of the pain in her heart when she was stabbed with the cold dagger dipped in anger, fury, and distrust!

When that very beating soul is broken apart so badly, by the one who your heart was beating for, it is extremely difficult to retain any semblance of sense or feeling. You may shed a fierce torrent of tears, but you soon realize that it's not going to change anything. The tears are repressed, the feelings are submerged, emotions are clutched in an iron hand, and all those touches of love, those memories - are tightly locked up. Khushi hardly exhibits her emotions these days (except for the B&B episode when she confesses that Arnav is her Shaitan and Rajkumar, and the momentary softness toward him as he sleeps), her enthusiasm and zest has been thawed - Anjali notices it too. As much as Arnav's feelings are being mocked at right now, Khushi's feelings too have been mocked at the day her sister's happiness was in jeopardy.

6. Khushi has always had a child-like attitude in life. Her instant connection with kids, her child-like behaviour, her naughtiness, her unending series of pranks, her outlook toward life in general, always enjoying the day. She has never held grudges for long, forgets her sorrows when she sees someone else unhappy, her constant efforts to cheer up people who are sad, Khushi is just like a child.

But children too grow up some day. I'm not saying that everyone outgrows 'childhood' - no one does. When life strikes you with a vicious blow, and you're lost in that maze, however much you try, and try, and try to get out and fail - there's a time when you decide to take a break. No amount of hitting your head against the maze seems to open up a new way - so you try anything and everything to bide your time - who knows, while doing this, you may find an escape route? Khushi retains her child-like antics, her innocence too hasn't ebbed away (thankfully), but her defenceless heart has been trampled upon so badly that she's lost somewhere in the maze all alone. She's been trying, trying desperately to find a way out - but not much is working her favour this time around. So, what does she do? She tries every trick she knows to escape the harsh events, and out where she'll be free - free to release her pent up emotions, her smothered dreams, her anguish, pain, distress, and let out those unshed tears that are carefully wrapped up within her.

I understand why Khushi is bent upon annoying Arnav: one reason is - to check if he really does out up a barrier when love and affection is showered on him, the second reason: she had pledged that she would make Arnav throw her out before the 6 months of their marriage was over.

I also understand that she's trying to do everything in her might to drive him to the edge of anger and annoyance so that she'll be successful in her mission (Arnav throwing her out of the house).

But what I do not understand is why should her character come across as so juvenile! The barging into the office was a bit too much for me at least! Till then, it was fine, she got him a new flowery wardrobe, called him 'Swami', behaved like a traditional 'patni', that is all still okay. Yes, she wanted to annoy the hell out of him, but seriously, which wife goes into a conference with dabba in hand?

ARNAV - CHARACTER REVIEW

Leaving that aside, I liked they way they've portrayed Arnav throughout yesterday and today. He is reaching his limits of patience with this girl, he's keeping a very good hold over his anger, and again - growth in his character.

The old ASR didn't care two hoots about the people present when he used to blast Khushi. He would demean her, insult her, humiliate her, and hurl his wrath on her without caring where exactly, or who was there around them.

This time, he takes her by the hand (angrily, who wouldn't be), takes her to his cabin, notices that the staff can still see them, and so, takes her to the corner and then admonishes her.

I applaud him for the restraint, the patience (that is reaching its limits rapidly), the mindfulness of other people around, the decency (to talk to her privately) and the barely concealed frustration (it's going to burst anytime if she pushes it too far). Barun was fascinating to watch throughout the episode!!

On an off hand: I felt the episode was probably the way it was becuase of the IPL match between Mumbai Indians and Rajasthan Royals.


SCENE REVIEW

For now, the main impact of the day was of course the 'Teeka Scene'. I was seriously as lost in it as Arnav and Khushi were... now I feel like an intruder into their private space.. sheesh what am I talking!!

Coming back to my senses - the Teeka scene held a particular meaning/s - I really don't want to take away the romantic touch to this scene, par kya kare, jab point hai toh likhna hoga...

THE SCENE IN SHORT:

So, we know that till now, Anjali is the only one who is allowed to put Teeka for ASR (he doesn't allow anyone else), and here we have our mata devi (in her attempt to annoy him) taking over Anjali's duty - Khushi is well aware of the fact that Arnav won't allow her within a mile if she tries using the normal way (her hands/fingers) to put the Teeka. so what does she do? She gives a shot at the unconventional way (copied from the movie Judaai, but still, unconventional, na) - she decides that taking him by surprise is the best way to apply the Teeka and so tilts his head upward and places her forehead on his to transfer the Teeka (reminded me of the spiderman kiss for a moment). Mission accomplished... well, not nearly... both are taken aback by what's happened, the blush (rouge) on Khushi's cheeks and both their expressions transferred a million electrifying, sizzling sparks both ways (and our way too) 😆 ... but to what effect? Arnav rubs away the teeka as he storms out clearly exasperated with this woman.

Now for what I felt about the scene, a lot of questions bombarded me here...

THE SCENE ANALYZED (ATTEMPTED ANALYSIS):

1. When Khushi joined their heads as one, I felt that Khushi will take the initiative to think as one, to join their minds, and their knowledge as one in order to clear away the MU.

2. By transferring her Teeka to his head, it can be that she will pass on some information to Arnav, so that he can use it to clear the MU. Will the information be concerning her feelings? her justification? her side of the story? the truth about Shyam?

3. I am aware that the 'Teeka' holds a sacred/holy meaning, so, will the information be something that will help remove the veil of lies? Tch.. such confusion in my mind!!

4. The scene also reminded me of the show's tagline 'Nafrat paas aane na de, Mohabbat door jaane na de' - with them joining their heads from opposite directions, it seems like these two see as one only when they are facing/seeing things from their own perspectives. They see each other clearly, their feelings reach a height only when they see each other in a different light/when their roles are reversed/when they see the 'other' side of each other... (this is a bit sketchy... need to work upon it).

5. In a weird sense, it brought to mind the zodiac sign of Pisces - the fish that swim in opposite directions, but both in an attempt to reach the same goal.

6. Arnav rubbing away Khushi's given Teeka signified that he still holds Anjali highest in his regard. Khushi (due to the MU) doesn't even figure in his regard. But, what also caught my attention was that he rubbed it only 'after' turning away from Khushi, he didn't do it in front of her... it could be that he accepts the knowledge, the information given to him by Khushi, but disregards it, casts it away once he goes away from her (lack of trust?).

We'll have to wait and watch to see how the MU clears... this new entrant Miss B. didn't create much of an impact - will need to see her in further episodes to see how things pan out (felt that she didn't warm up to Payal much...)

Waiting to see what happens in today's episode, Arnav faints (pretend or really?) - please let it be a good episode!!




Edited by sea.nymph - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Loved to read all your thoughts Tants, Doodle and Pam...still reading some more...Thank you so very much for shading some light on Khushi's behavior...they said kishmish so many times...that i got irritated...never thought it would be compared to khushi's dreams...Thanks again who takes so much of time to explain and analysis...LOVE...
Edited by showstruck - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wrote the same and come back to read the same 😆
Lovely analysis...just loved it...
will be back in the morning wid updated reply !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hi tant, 👏👏👏👏. super description of Khushi.
i start quoting you that CV's r treading very dangerous water. khushi's character is walking or rather balancing on a very fine line. at least to me she is little bit loosing on the compassionate trait of her character. is she that naive to understand d difference between irritating ASR and what will be physically harming him. he is missing his food, he is diabetic.. its all known fact to Khushi and she has been ultra protective about his health previously. she has been inconsiderate when he sprained his neck. i loved when she ran back to his room to stop him from taking mami's medicine. but today we r back to square one. but at d same time it is khushi and her OTT behaviour has attracted Arnav. she is d girl who has been wronged, made to sleep by d poolside , have faced ASR's wrath umpteen times despite her mistake... so lets see how her character takes d shape.
completely agree wth u for d scene when Arnav wipes away d tika. she is yet to stand in d same plane where Anjali is standing in Arnav's life. however might Anjali try to push them towards each other,Arnav needs to solve d riddle of his DIL-DIMAAG to accept Khushi.
whatsoever i am looking forward for this new entry called Ms B. all d cameos in IPK have been lovable characters playing their own part as cupid. Lavanya,NK and Bubbly. personally i dont like child artist in these kind of dramas becos they dont talk their age. but now thats d new trend. and whatever it takes to make these two angry birds confess or at least realise their own feelings and desperation for each other.
on a lighter note d tika scene was a delight to watch. Barun for his voice modulation.👏👏
Edited by mouramen - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--

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I do not blame you the episode was crap. Khushi annoyed me to no end.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Where do I begin... to tell the story of how great a chemistry could be ...

the sweet love story that was Arnav and Khushi ... where do I start...
Teardrop...
Warning!!!! I am going to be extra dramatic!!! I think Khushi's OTT is rubbing off on me.
What I liked:
Arnav coming down the stairs with Khushi behind him. Arnav fuming, the family's reaction to the Arnav's shirt. I have to say it was HILLARIOUS!!! Mamaji certainly has a knack of delivering his lines perfectly. Laughter has been introduced to the serious meal time conversations of the Raizada's. Loved that the "Swami" line even had Mamiji in splits. This is the only time I did not like Akash's reaction to Arnav's shirt. I mean Payal did a better job.
I didn't really understand the whole need for Khushi to put the tikka on Arnav in the first place. That being said I had butterflies when she did it, when she moved away only enough to be able to see his face, when Arnav gulped (testing the limits of his selfcontrol there Miss KKGSR). Then the husky whisper, "Khushi". Proof that the CV's still know how to do romance and do it VERY WELL.
Finally a little interaction between the Gupta sisters. Khushi teasing Payal much appreciated CV's.
An explaination about NK's absense, dude he has been gone for a month or so and now you tell us.
Paykash's affection.
The precap.
Those were the things I liked. To be precise the first half of the episode was good. The second Khushi stepped into the office it whole track went to hell.
WHAT I DID NOT LIKE!!!!
Khushi making a fool of herself. Quite frankly, I wasn't a fan of the dubba service idea, but I appreciated that the CV's have turned it into a business that is still operational. Yesterday, I condoned Khushi's behaviour because when a naughty kid gets important knowledge about their favorite target, no matter how hurtful, they have to have fun with it first. Hence I enjoyed the OTT Swami stuff, but today made no sense what so ever. I mean you make his life hell at home, but when you step into his office there is a limit. Is Khushi Kumar Gupta Singh Riazada also starting a clown business?
Yes, I know that the idea is that he doesn't eat lunch and then faints. But the first half of the episode and the second half seems like they were done very differently. More specifically one with taste and the other in haste.
Bubbly, who is she? why is she here? really is this the kind of suspense that is going to help recover the falling TRP's????
Are we trying to get under 12 bracket to watch this show now with all these kids and Khushi acting like a clown? Is this the new strategy?
The interesting things that happened in this episode
Anjali and Shyam are kept away. I don't think Anjali would take it lightly that Khushi is not only NOT taking the advice she gave her but is doing the exact opposite. Shyam quite frankly would not like the idea of Khushi doing any kind of seva for Arnav. And also Anjali, could have convinced Arnav to do wear the shirt for the entire day which would result in the sudden death of the ASR character. I am glad he did not wear Red shirt. Nani once again is there to see how much Khushi cares for Arnav. The family enjoying the changes in Arnav.
I am hoping that after reading everyone's analysis I will feel better but right now I just don't get where Khushi as a character is going. Why is she behaving like someone who has no self respect at all, who will go to any lengths to humilate her husband, this is not the girl who shoulders all her problems and faces them standing tall. I mean the showing up at the office should be addressed by the women in the house if Arnav complaints. I mean Payal ( you remember who she is don't you Her sister "dripping sarcasm") doesn't behave this way. She doesn't see the need to stop Khushi????
Ok I'm going to stop becasue I'm hoping that after reading this thread I will gain some clarity.
And finally,
Words of Advice to the PH and CV's (God I hope you read this thread)
1. Today I happened to catch EHMMBH, there was quite a significant story line being played out. What does the IPL not happen in their time slot??? Did you notice they climbed the TRP Chats today???? More specifically, I understand that you are building the relationship here, but ignoring the sword that hangs on Arnav's head ( the MU people) he should be trying to protect his family from Khushi should he not. You can't go so many episodes without it rearing its ugly head.
2. Chemistry doesn't only have to be between the leads. If you catch Na Bole Tum on Colours, I watch the show because I love the lead actors chemistry with lead actress daughter. ( If that was too coded for you, Bubbly and Akash didn't quite click for me, but I didn't like NK on the first go however he did grow on me, so benefit of the doubt I will give you this time)
3. This show has been so creative on so many aspects before, Mr. A really ???
4.I do know that Khushi is going to get a rude awakening to her childish pranks tomorrow when Arnav faints only because of her this time. But to get from point A to point B do you have to take such a juvenile route. DO YOU???
5. Please for the sake of everyones eyes hire a stylist for both Arnav and Khushi. I mean the dude needs a haircut asap and I don't know what is more annoying Khushi's hair or her outfits. Oh wait its that damn Salman Khan poster ( sorry I'm an SRK fanatic)
6.Kindly read Doods advice from yesterday she pointed ways to effectively get from point A in the story to point B.
7. Shyam Manohar Jha and Anjali Jha ki prem kahani would be better source of subplot at the time. Shyam doesn't feel the need to manipulate Arnav into hating Khushi some more like he did on the fancy dress day? Why not.
8. I need to know what these characters are thinking, so soliloquy scenes are a must.
9. Please strive for consistency, two days ago Khushi said she won't come in front of Arnav now she is every where what changed??? What is her motive, I'm not sure, and she had a ssoliloquy scene even.
As you can see guys I am kind of fed up with this yoyo behaviour what I think I need is a break from IPKKND ( wow guess I'm adding to the falling trp's eh) Anyways, they have till the end of this week and then I'll decide if I want to stay on on want out.
That was my two cents for the day. I haven't read anyposts yet and will update once I do.
Signing off one disillusioned fan
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@ Tant: your description of Khushi was perfection
@ Anna oh no what no analysis???
@ Doods: I'm going to call you the super hero of the thread today. Because only after reading your analysis I have some hope. I actually noticed the way Khushi greeted Bubbly and it sparked interest in me. But then came the office OTT and my opinion went to hell. So Doods my task for tomorrow is to pick a super hero name for you. Any suggestions???😉
@Pam: I thought it would take a miracle for me to not to hate where this track is doing to Khushi, I think I got it in your analysis. Great job, opened my mind to new possiblilities. Loved it
Edited by S003 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunflower52



I do not blame you the episode was crap. Khushi annoyed me to no end.


The point is I just do not understand why is the story NOT moving! And this Ms.B irritated me even more than Khushi. She seems like such a dheela character!

Shyam toh pata nahi kahan gayab hogaya hai! Does he even lust after Khushi or once in a week he realises that he wants Khushi to himself!

Continue with the drama - but atleast run a proper parallel track with it!

The only reason I am tolerating it is for Khushi's redemption. She has to realize the blunder she is making!
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Originally posted by: sunflower52

Tanthya fantastic analysis of Khushi once I knew.

I can not relate to this girl now at all. I am telling you tonight's episode made me want to strangle her

I hope after Asr faints because of her, she learn her lesson.

If only she applied her brains in the right direction she would have gotten her answers.

Also realize that a successful marriage takes a lot of work and patience.

I have to applaud Asr for tolerating her nonsense



Salma...i soo knew u wouldnt like the epi n feel like strangling her...😆...the only thing i liked in today's epi was the one n only...the ravishing...the hot-shot...MANORAMA MAAMi...😆😆😆...loved her dialoguewas and actingwa...😆😆...yes !! other than tht...it was total crap for me atleast

*head desk*

*face palm*

😆

n also i didnt understand the "RUB AWAY" ( In sathu's language)😆😆

😆
Edited by garima_IPKKND - 13 years ago
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arnav hot cold behaviour is shown because they are trying to show his feeling
even with so called MU because we ve seen kushi grow feelings evn when ASR and La
were in a relationship.It triggers badly when put under the same frame with his sis due to known reasons
thats the reason he not been able to hate her completely
next with his soften behaviour thats the trust which is developing somewhere he beleives she s not involved
again if he s going to hear and change his opinion under diff situations later
might jump to negative conclusions so some kind of understandins within should be shown
which is shown now The revisit Terrace scene should be a confirmation on his thought process
and not the beginning of kushi s innocence.
arnav s extreme anger was tolerated by kushi so now
kushi s OTT antics is been taken by him which is fair.character change cannot be shown overnight
it needs a gradual change which is in process now.
IT is a tv show so the heroine brings the change in hero and we cannot see arnav ruthless
throughout the show so needs to change
regarding his brain they are trying to show that he does nt wants to think because again
that might make him think the worst again
these kind of people when they fall in love they fall so deeply and are extremely
possesive.

i am bad at expressing my views but this is my point of view and not to support one character.

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