To those who are unsatisfied with everything - Page 9

Originally posted by: Hessa85

to be honest i found it funny that people would thuink someone is going to post something on the internet about a ficyional show just because they want to ruin someones mood. i also find it bizarre that criticizing a show is being compared to poking splinters in peoples eyes 😆 if you study media or you study literature you always criticize, you always look from the objective point of view. and the people that do criticize the show look at the similar things i would look at if was looking at the impact of ...for example...indian dramas and the portrayal of women. its a forums so people spend more time going into depths of the 'what whys and hows' of the show. similar to how you would write an essay because you have more time to think about it. that is healthy thinking. i dont believe we should ever accept anything just as it is handed to us. and in the media world thats good thing. it means as time goes on the industry cant keep feeding the public the same rubbish again and again...they have to be innovative, they have to develop...otherwise they wont pull in the punters.

and im also sure if we sat down, we would come to some mutual agreement.😊

Originally posted by: gheeshakkar

Agree with you on the need to stop nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

But completely disagree about Point 5. I play cricket for the under 16 girl's team (which btw only my mom and few other moms watch) and I can tell you how much of constant criticism we face on footwork, stance, fitness, catching, etc. Most of these comments come from people who can't even hold a cricket bat possibly. Does that make their comment any less valid? I don't think so. If you are putting yourself out there, better be prepared to be judged. You write a book, people WILL have an opinion about your writing. These people may never write a book or have the ability to write a book. But remember, you are putting your work out there for the same people -- they have every right to judge your work. Unlike working in an office, where perhaps you have greater no. of opportunities to correct your work, here once you put it out there, you can't take it back.

Also, I don't think anyone is saying ASR is a bad influence. Gosh! But the point about Television that you make is incorrect. There is a reason why some TV shows put a disclaimer. Lots of viewers are young people and there are pretty strong ways in which images that we see in popular culture influence our minds. As a reasonably stupid 16-year-old I can say for sure that I am pretty influenced by some of the things I watch on TV. And there is no reason for me not to think that others aren't ike me. TV sometimes romanticizes things that are not okay and people might have made that kind of point.

I know that nobody likes whining, but whining about others who whine is you know kinda ironic. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Just that, how is your complaint different from the original person who is dissatisfied? And one can't make sweeping conclusions based on what I post on the Internet about my personality. I am generally speaking an optimist, that doesn't mean I won't complain. I might never complain, but I could be very glass-half-empty in real life. Why must we all agree at all the times? What is up with that?

Originally posted by: gheeshakkar

Agree with you on the need to stop nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

But completely disagree about Point 5. I play cricket for the under 16 girl's team (which btw only my mom and few other moms watch) and I can tell you how much of constant criticism we face on footwork, stance, fitness, catching, etc. Most of these comments come from people who can't even hold a cricket bat possibly. Does that make their comment any less valid? I don't think so. If you are putting yourself out there, better be prepared to be judged. You write a book, people WILL have an opinion about your writing. These people may never write a book or have the ability to write a book. But remember, you are putting your work out there for the same people -- they have every right to judge your work. Unlike working in an office, where perhaps you have greater no. of opportunities to correct your work, here once you put it out there, you can't take it back.

Also, I don't think anyone is saying ASR is a bad influence. Gosh! But the point about Television that you make is incorrect. There is a reason why some TV shows put a disclaimer. Lots of viewers are young people and there are pretty strong ways in which images that we see in popular culture influence our minds. As a reasonably stupid 16-year-old I can say for sure that I am pretty influenced by some of the things I watch on TV. And there is no reason for me not to think that others aren't ike me. TV sometimes romanticizes things that are not okay and people might have made that kind of point.

I know that nobody likes whining, but whining about others who whine is you know kinda ironic. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Just that, how is your complaint different from the original person who is dissatisfied? And one can't make sweeping conclusions based on what I post on the Internet about my personality. I am generally speaking an optimist, that doesn't mean I won't complain. I might never complain, but I could be very glass-half-empty in real life. Why must we all agree at all the times? What is up with that?

Originally posted by: gheeshakkar

Agree with you on the need to stop nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

But completely disagree about Point 5. I play cricket for the under 16 girl's team (which btw only my mom and few other moms watch) and I can tell you how much of constant criticism we face on footwork, stance, fitness, catching, etc. Most of these comments come from people who can't even hold a cricket bat possibly. Does that make their comment any less valid? I don't think so. If you are putting yourself out there, better be prepared to be judged. You write a book, people WILL have an opinion about your writing. These people may never write a book or have the ability to write a book. But remember, you are putting your work out there for the same people -- they have every right to judge your work. Unlike working in an office, where perhaps you have greater no. of opportunities to correct your work, here once you put it out there, you can't take it back.

Also, I don't think anyone is saying ASR is a bad influence. Gosh! But the point about Television that you make is incorrect. There is a reason why some TV shows put a disclaimer. Lots of viewers are young people and there are pretty strong ways in which images that we see in popular culture influence our minds. As a reasonably stupid 16-year-old I can say for sure that I am pretty influenced by some of the things I watch on TV. And there is no reason for me not to think that others aren't ike me. TV sometimes romanticizes things that are not okay and people might have made that kind of point.

I know that nobody likes whining, but whining about others who whine is you know kinda ironic. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Just that, how is your complaint different from the original person who is dissatisfied? And one can't make sweeping conclusions based on what I post on the Internet about my personality. I am generally speaking an optimist, that doesn't mean I won't complain. I might never complain, but I could be very glass-half-empty in real life. Why must we all agree at all the times? What is up with that?

Originally posted by: tiya229

Hey, Nice post... you have made some valid points, but i agree with some in parts and some i dont.

Firstly, this is aforum... you are gonna find a billion people with mixed opinions. I myself like some episodes in parts, and some i am like what the f**k was that... the point is that, opinions are just that...

Next, I neccesarily dont find "bashing" posst. If i were to analyse it, i'd say, for every "bashing" post, there is one that'll say " OMG! i loved todays episode" or " Arnav-Khushi were too good!"... In that way, I think this forum is balanced... yes, on some days the scale tips,but in general.. i think despite our age differences, we get along better than most 'ACTIVE" forums.

That said, I dislike the word bashing. Its a wrong word to use in a public forum... Short of being rude and maligining the actors, bashing doesnt apply in a public forum... yes, some posts are negative saying " i didnt like this" "OMG, why are they dragging" but thats perspective. you cant change it! the best thing to do, obviously, is to find posts that fit your vibe and be active there. Bashing, drooling, those words are a big NO-NO for me... I personally, will go gaga over a rabba vey, but i'll flip back and be like W*F, that didnt make sense... that doesnt make me a drooler or a basher...Lets face it, we are all here because we love this show. Fortunately, we are also a VERY active forum, with a WIDE range of people. Lets celebrate that.

With point #3: I agree. barring the whole, sleeping outside fiasco, I dont think I personally have took a social stance to anything shown in IPK. I think, we need people SHOULD address social issues.. again, we are a forum and different strokes for different people. BUT to say, what arnav does, or Khushi deals with is some of bad Vs good influence... I have say : cut it! This show is in NO WAY realistic. So, we have to take most things with a pinch of salt. IF we cant handle it, then skip it!

Many shows ( not only indian) show many things worse.. I personally think, IPK is better compared to most in that aspect... But I cannot dissect every move of Arnav call it immoral and or keep quiet in the extreme cases ( like kicking her out!)

I have immense respect for those who in Indian TV shows. Not only is it hard work but to keep up with the pace is hard. They are there as much time as the actors, working with them for them so we can have fun! Watch this video if you can! tells me, how much effort goes into one scene

[YOUTUBE] www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqFiof_vTBo [/YOUTUBE]

i just want to say, 4lions and SP give us a show; some things I agree with, some i dont.. but in general want to just watch it play out! the day i loose interest, i'll start watching another show. but if i dont agree with something, that shouldnt make me a basher...

Originally posted by: angelofillusion

The way I got introduced to this forum was b/c sometimes (actually most of the times) I'm on the run & want to read the reviews to see if it's worth watching the episode. Initially, it was alright. But then it started to get too much.

I don't know much about media studies. But I do agree with you that we must never take things handed out on our plate. Always criticize! When I made this post, it was for people who spread unncessary negativity. By that, I mean saying things like "CVs buckled up before you lose another loyal fan!" "I'm going to QUIT watching this bullshit" "That was absolutely disgusting." To me, criticisms of this sort are not acceptable.

When I say I appreciate criticism, I mean someone telling WHERE I'm going wrong & maybe (if possible), tell my how to fix it. When I make mistakes in my lab, my prof points out my mistakes too. I take every criticism VERY well (I guess that's evident since I don't think you are a "basher" for disagreeing with me).

There are individuals like Shy, Crooner, Sushpective who provide ABSOLUTELY wonderful criticisms. There are more but these 3 are famous & well-known. Even if they didn't like the episode or didn't agree, the way they word it is what makes a difference at the end of the day.

If people reallly do disagree, they must explain themselves with logic. There must be some sort of constructive feedback. Being an eternal optimist, I think there's ALWAYS a way to word things positively (don't know if it's true since I don't know EVERYTHING that goes on in the world).

Glad you can disagree with me YET talk to me like a human being and not like we're eternal enemies out to cut each other's throats.

Originally posted by: sman

loved ur post...I am actually scared of bashers as they might take it off the air..sometimes I feel are they the fans or rivals from other shows..!!!!

Originally posted by: angelofillusion

Thank you thank you :D Glad I could bring a smile on someone's face!

Definitely come back to this whenever dosage of bashing overflows your limit :P

In fact, I think after every episode, I should make an anti-bashing post where I'll defend the bloopers, I'll defend the bad editing, I'll defend the mistakes, I'll cover up for ASR's actions & so on & so forth :p