IP REDUX ; Khamosh Dil Ki Dhadkan *Updtd* - Page 8

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Posted: 13 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: riyya6

awesome analysis & episode 👏




Thank You, Riyya😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: malsub

@Pam - Simply loved your explanation about Arnav's ranjha dialogues. It accurately fleshes out the underlying intensity of his emotions and helps to understand what he is feeling.


Thank you, Mal!!!😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#73
Hello girls,Lizzy back.I had two questions on the episode and the show as a whole posted on pg5..g
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Posted: 13 years ago
#74
@sathya,doods,pam and all other who wrote the analysis ,simply brilliant and i loved them all.
@pam ur POV is totally diff abt arnav's ranjha dialogue that somelines r meant for kushi
AAJ KISI AUR CHEEZ KA KOI MATLAB NAHI
KISI JOOT KA,KISI SACH KA
BAS EK CHEEZ KA MATLAB HAI,AGAR TUM NAHI
THO MEIN NAHI
HOW I'VE WAITING TO HEAR THIS LINES FROM ARNAV
without u iam nothing😭
when i watch the heer ranjha act mein phoot phoot kar roh rahi thi,and once again it reminded me why i HATE BAD ENDINGS THATS IT no matter how EPIC/ETERNAL the jodi are.
lovd kushi taunts to arnav when he asked her ab kya,
AAPKI ZINDAGI KI SABSE ACHCHE AUR RANJHA KE ZINDAGI KE SABSE BURA DIN ,MEIN MARJAOONGI-I WAS LIKE U ASKED FOR IT ARNAV BITWA
hIGH HOPES ON KUSHI THAT THIS TIME SHE WONT LET HIM OFF THE HOOK THAT EASILY,BY HOOK OR CROOK SHE HAS TO MAKE HIM TALK ATLEAST START HER MISSION TRUTH.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Doodles great post! Yes Shyam has been written rather poorly these past few episodes. Though I give a pass on the wallet scene simply for the fact that a clue was left behind, hopefully only confirming what Arnav already knows that Shyam never changed and he needs to be more alert now more than ever

It seems in the coming days the CVs are going to focus more of getting Arnav and Khushi to move past the MU rather than on Shyam. The focus will shift back on him once Arnav realizes he was wrong about Khushi. That is when the battle between Shyam and ASR will really heat up
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Posted: 13 years ago
#76
Hi girls, loved all u're views.I have posted my views on pg5 and posed my doubts too.
@Pam-loved your noveau insight on Arnav's dialogue
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Posted: 13 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012


but has Nani really sensed the magnitude of problem between Khushi and Arnav? What do you feel my mates?

Exactly my point of view as well Lizzy.. Thats why I felt the scene between Nani and Anjali didnt sit well.. they are helping the couple as if they knew the magnitude of problem between the pair... not actually the problem but the intensity of problems between them.. which is not so... whatever they witnessed can very well be taken as a normal Hubby wifey fight, taken into account that how hot headed Arnav is...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Sathya...🤗 Beautiful as always! Today I cannot do an analysis of the episode atleast I think I cannot because I hardly could see anything today since I was crying buckets and rivers the whole episode ! 😭 Yess! I am an idiotic emotional fool -- I just could not help myself today! Coming to your analysis - Brilliant as usual! 👏 I agree with you Shyam's reaction were a bit let down. I do not know why but I am not able to see the proper Arnav Shyam and Khushi equation and that is what I expected this track to focus on! However I am very much disappointed with Aabhas here - his reactions were so out of the place and once I saw him smiling also! 😕 Also love your song selection - one of my favorite songs and I always play it on my way to work - love it so much and so apt to the situation today! 😃


Like I said - I am in no position to write anything because I hardly concentrated on anything - however I will - that is what I do - say I would not write and then end up writing an essay! 😆😆 So coming to my analysis, quick points :

- Starting of the episode - Arnav on a crossroad - he has two choices that Nani gives him when he decides to not participate - one to leave the premises and go away and second to save his wife from being humiliated on stage. And what does he chose!? Standing by his wife when she most needs him. That is why I never brought in the whole sit-ups issue in my post when it had happened. I personally belief that a girl's self respect is in her own hands - Arnav did not force Khushi that day - she did of her will - if she had refused - would the mighty Arnav Singh Raizada let his wife go to jail with the traffic policeman!? No! He would have gotten frustrated - helped her out then and there and her self respect would be intact. And that is what we saw today again - when it comes to choosing - he will always stand by Khushi in times of trouble! He might not show it but he will always be there like a shadow lurking around always ready to help - even if it frustrates him to no extent.

- Coming to the crowd at the community - Really!? Have the creatives forgotten that the Raizada's are the top most business families or something!? This is the crowd they hang out with and parties they participate in!? I was a bit disappointed here to the reaction that I felt was way over the top from the crowd.

- Coming to the scene when Khushi decides and prays to Devi Maiyya to help her out and she tries again - a failed attempt - and who does Devi Maiyya send - her husband - Arnav Singh Raizada. What really I liked in this scene was the comfort level they both had with each other. Arnav Singh Raizada aka ASR who never asks for help - especially from Khushi - asks her to help him for he does not know what to do - no pretense, no shame - he asks her and she asks him to follow her - as simple as that! Love your analysis here again Sathya! 👏

-- Khushi starts with her dialogues and I must say I did not like them. I wish they had given her a bit better dialogues for Heer - it sounded strange to my ears! 😆 But Arnav sure looked enthralled - he was drinking in every word she said. His eyes never leaving her. Then comes the humor in one of the most significant scenes :

"Khushi bata dena kab aana hai..." Khushi looks at him and smiles

"bas thode hi der mein"

"aur phir" Arnav asks confused

"Aur phir aapki zindagi ki sabse achi aur Ranjhe ki zindagi ki sabse buri ghadi aaegi"

Arnav shocked. " Matlab"

" Hum marjayenge"

This was one scene which showed that how affected Arnav is with the talk of her dying! He was shocked and tears came in his eyes as she saw Khushi move forward and continued her act.

-- The poison scene - Khushi eats the sweet of poison and falls down. We see everyone in shock and that is when Arnav needs to come in to play his role. He comes in initially as Ranjha calling out to Heer - here he is acting - and by that I mean role playing Ranjha. But when he reaches close to her and takes her in his laps that is when Arnav surfaces out of him and after that the emotional fool I am - I start crying! 😭

"Heer... Heer...utho Heer...Heer ek baar aankhein khol ke mujhe dekho... tumhare bina main jee nahi sakta...tumhare bina ranjha kuch nahi hai Heer (Khushi's tears falls from her eyes and Arnav wipes them) .. Heer main tumhe chod ke chala gaya tha.. apne man ko behla raha tha ki mujhe koi frak nahi padta... par tum toh jaanti ho... main tumhare bina jee nahi sakta...jab jo kiya, jab jo kaha, sab bhool jao... aaj kisi aur cheez ka koi matlab nahi.. kisi jhooth ka...kisi sach ka.. bas ek cheez ka matlab hai... agar tum nahi...toh main nahi...tumne hi kaha tha na Heer ki heer ke bina Ranjha ka koi wajood nahi...(he says that from the last episode when he heard Khushi talk about Heer and Ranjha love story) ... agar Heer hi zinda nahi hai toh ranjhe ki zindagi ka koi matlab nahi...(Khushi is confused her - her eyebrows twitch) yahan na sahin... shayad kahin aur ek duniya hogi jahan tum aur main kabhi alag nahi honge..."

And by now I am howling! 😭 - And then he eats the sweet and the last line...

"Jab jo bura kaha - uska koi matlab nahi hai - jab jo bura kia - uska koi matlab nahi hai -- Iss pyaar mein sahi aur galat ka koi matlab nahin hain..ki main hameshe hamesha tumse..."

The last line - specifically spoken or should I say whispered into Khushi's ears - and it was Arnav alone in it. It was his sorry to her - it was his confession of love to her - it was his confession when he said "Iss pyaar" -- And that is why from all of his dialogues Khushi picked up only this line! I loved how they got up when the act finished. The way Khushi opened her eyes first and then Arnav and they got up their hands held together. That was beautiful

-- Next comes Khushi questioning Arnav Again! Did I expect Arnav to reply straight to her - ofcourse not! I cannot forget he is Arnav Singh Raizada who if he lets out his emotions - runs away from them asap - so I am not disappointed with Arnav here - but I am glad that Khushi tried. Sathya loved how you have explained the earring scene and the mangtika connection here. 👏 Also the whole Heer Ranjha act was for the world to see - and I am sure Anjali and Nani could very well establish the connection Arnav and Khushi have - and so does Akash and Mamaji. Shyam was a disappointment so no comments on him.

I guess this was it! Will be waiting for Doodhs and Pam's analysis! 😃

Love:)

P.S : Note to the creatives : Okay even though I loved the whole confession to bits - cried, howled everything - I really am done seeing Arnav confess indirectly everytime and his realization of feelings! No doubt I love it - but why is he the only one who keeps realizing he is in love and confessing it. One was during the bhaang scene - Khushi was confused there - Arnav was sure - and one again today - Arnav again confessed his love (indirectly but he did) -- can we please have a Khushi realization scene now!? We need to move over the dhak dhak. What is the point if she comes to know that Arnav loves her but she has not even been shown to realize the meaning of her feelings!? 😕

P.P.S : Okay the precap nearly spoiled the episode for me. I get it Khushi has some strong reason to not take the award - must be mami and payal - yet if that dhokebaaz dialogues was directed at Arnav alone tomorrow - I am gonna be pissed! She can do it in the four corners of her room - slap him even if she wants to but I do not think her proclaiming her husband as a dhokebaaz will go well with me and her character. My fingers are crossed - I hope the scene plays out very very differently! I know something big might happen and it might just be a setup also but I really hope I am proven wrong and Khushi does not do what I think she is doing.


See ya guys at REDUX tomorrow! Gnite! :)))





Anna!!! 👏 if you were good with analysis till yesterday- today you were amazing!
true- heer should've been give a little more deeper dialogues and also- when Ranjha left and Aranv came i never knew- the transformation was soo smooth and natural- made me wonder if Arnav ever stepped on to the stage as ranjha.

Nani proved she was Arnav's nani! 😆 what nautanki!!

What i dint like was the crowd - nothing at par with the Raizada standard they 'claim'. Also, like you said- Shyam was lost and replaced by a sweet husband! (WTH) :D :P

every thing in brown- the dialogues were bang on!! amazing and too good- and again the BG score guys did a great job! light and subtle music!

the precap did spoil the episode but yes- i definately hope she did it for payal and mami and not to get back on Arnav!


"iss pyaar" soo true- the key to khushi's understanding.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mommamia

Satya,

Beautiful Analysis as usual. You guys should get a special mention in the show at some point. When Barun can wear a fan's gift(watch).. you guys deserve this. I know some one from PH/CV visits this forum and I know they do read your posts.. I so wish it strikes their mind too..
You know when Khushi said.. OK now as usual walk away from me..thats when I felt how much of angst she is carrying. She is frustrated with his incomplete stance. She displayed it today. She threw that earring. His attitude towards her is driving her to the edge. She is at that stage where she cannot handle anymore and she needs answers and NOW. He is so confused with things going on around him... what stalling him to analyse I dont understand.(Of course CVs I do know 😉).
Again the contrast between Anjali and Shyam was befitting.. Sitting next to each other and just the opposite reaction. She was all tears and so contented that finally its all happening in front of her and he was sulking, seething and fuming. (At times Abhaas looked so disinterested..)
And one more thing was Anjali was bonding more with Aakash than her hubby dear.
And the precap. Misleading.I am really hoping against hope that she doesn't refer to Arnav as Dhoke baaz and there is something more to it. Well if she says that also fine but let her be justified.We have already had lots of such let downs and since we have requested for tighter script when leads are concerned, I hope they get our point.
Side Note:Mamaji is actor par excellence. So far he has never let us down. I so wish his character was woven in the story which had some meaty role. I love his acting..Kudos to you mamaji.




Thank You, sandy ..

hehehe..That would be great indeed but Redux is mainly for analytical purpose without looking for rewards ...So will not be disappointed if our efforts are not publicly acknowledged ..

The neglect of Shyam has been a sore point with me and Doods ..Sandy ... Has Arshad forgotten the MU exists bec of Shyam and Shyam is a obsessed man...This track is totally failing on this front ..


Precap, I never comment cos it usually is a hook to pull the viewer's and not a correct picture
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Posted: 13 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: abavi

Hello Dear Reduxians!

Tants - Fabulous job as usual!
Doods! The PH need this whip! completely agree with you!
Pam- I loved your Analysis today- the green room part was spot on!
Shai, terimerikushi and Anna- Good one dears!

Thank you Abavi!!!
For some reason, yesterday's epi didnt connect well with me... Its purely my opinion... perhaps got to do with my own mood while watching the epi! or perhaps the actors have done exceptionally well in the past, that I have raised my bar of expectations from them... I cannot take a ok ok performance from Barun and Sanaya
1. The HR act, have got a lot of praises from viewers and lot of you in redux as well... But somehow I was not impressed. It could have been done better... that intensity was missing... probably the way it was picturized, with intercepting between the dialogues between them and the actual dialogues to be said for the play, somewhere the two missed out on the apt expressions when needed... I know as per the show they didnt practice, and it has to appear lame... But with those dialogues which were so powerful, somewhere the actors lost it. - Sanaya, I was reminded of ametuer school plays when she fell down...
- Barun should have been a little louder when he says his dialogues for the play and little lower in pitch when he actually speaks to Kushi- no difference at all... same pitch for everything...
- Abhas😡 was Shyam's expressions reused from previous day's episode? Not at all in sink...
I also did not feel the correct emotions flowing through and it was not the acting this time or direction was wrong, I am not sure but something that was there in TeriMeri or holi confession was missing.
2. Daljeet, did she forget that Anjali's character limps? When Anjali rushed towards Nani, she just walked! 😕 and the scene between Nani and Anjali was very forgettable!

Yes, she did forget😆
3. The only part that stood out was the green room scene... Arnav who didnt know what to do during the start of the skit, started blurting out dialogues triggered probably by Kushi saying "she will die then", he might have revisited the day when he thought he lost her. Kushi is confused by the flow of his dialogues, tries to get answers and gets rejected once again...
4. There are other viewers who are not a part of IF or any forum which analyze the episode on a much deeper level.. My in-laws for example felt that the serial is getting dragged without any logic, the normal viewers dont get the logic behind these scenes- they didnt get the logic behind Delhi bali episode or this... Thats why I felt if the play had to convey something, to the story, the significance of including the play in the plot was not well done.
5. This point is not on yesterday's episode...but the previous one.. Well Shyam left the sacred thread on Arnav/Kushi's wardrobe, but how do they expect Arnav or Kushi to recognise the thread belonging to Shyam? for all reasons it could be HP's thread as well when he is putting Arnav's pressed clothes into the wardrobe.. My logical eye says that Anjali might notice it and may mention that its Shyam's and he was searching for his kurta amongst Arnav's clothes... which will trigger fome thinking out of the other two or one of the other two... will have to wait and watch how it will be handled.

Reading your view, I think Anjali might be the one to recognize it or it can be Arnav also because he was present when his dhaaga was tied, in fact Arnav has FB's of this moment since the Shyam revelation to him. We will have to wait and see how they play it out . Another thought would be that Arnav might think that Shyam was in the room with Khushi instead of thinking about the file.
6. Should actually wait for tomorrow's epi before I comment on this... But couldnt help drawing a line of comparison between the terimeri dance sequence and this... similar situation, but then Arnav volunteered and now he was forced! and then Kushi accepted his help and now it seems she wont accept it. And Haan, Abhaas a small suggestion, you dont have to observe someone else's performance, watch your own performance in that epi again... what a contrast, you should have given that kind of expression yesterday as well...
Trivia
1. Did any one feel Sanaya was looking her age when Barun lifted her into his lap?
2. Not expecting much of today's episode as well.. Probably Mami Payal show and then Kushi denying the prize.. We might have to wait till wednesday for the blast between the lead pair!



Abavi,

Nicely written😊

I am in blue.


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