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Posted: 13 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: incandescent

Doodles, Sathu, Lucky...great analysis.



Thanks Fari. Hugzzz 🤗

I am now replying all the posts...how you doing??? 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
#82
😊😊

Originally posted by: doodleberry


Oh SS you from Dhaka??? Aah my next place. 😃 Now I am missing Kolkata more. Oh yeah Sunil is still my one of the fav. authors...

I got PMs on this and seriously I don't know who gave this news??? but I do know that ASR will at the fancy dress competition as FB IPK fan page posted pictures..I saw them...

Can you gimme the link of the new promo??? Then I can say something.

No link has been posted. But, it show khushi on stage denying to accept the prize saying I can't accept this prize that I won with my husband and then nani comes and asks why?? And voice over say what is the reason behind khushi not accepting. That's it.
Sunil and Purbo-Pashchim is one of my most favorite till to date😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: doodleberry


Thanks Fari. Hugzzz 🤗

I am now replying all the posts...how you doing??? 😃


Hey Doods 🤗

I am good...how are you ??
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Posted: 13 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: sree07

Res

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Awesome Analysis by everyone. Kudos.👏👏👏.
Adding my thoughts on two scenes which i I liked most.

Khushi and her hop-skipping

Today's car apology scene just cemented two traits of khushi. the fickleness and restlessness in khushi's character.Oh my gosh, she can not sit idle even for a minute :). Hoped into the driver seat and started fidgeting. And did she stop at that? No. In the next second, she went to her little diary friend and confessed the crime she committed. Her actions were just similar to her emotions which jump around like a monkey these days, no consistency. And this completely justifies it.

For me today's episode presented me a righteous khushi as well as a confused soul who is caught up in a whirlpool of emotions and not exactly know which one to handle first. All these week, she was on defense mode unlike last week. Reason may be the Monday 'big-fight' near the pool side. She was hurt both physically and emotionally. Then the puppet dance, I am sure she was hurt the way he puppeteer-ed her all along the dance. But she did not react to that properly (!).

Is the CVs missing the continuous portrayal of khushi's emotions? Or is it in khushi's character to be evasive?
Such a dance with vengeance did not evoke any reaction from her?😕.

Anyway again she jumped from being hurt to chirpy and evasive. Being chirpy and evasive about the true emotions, is it her way of running away from problems?


ASR and 'Paint you black' dialogue

The true ASR colors at the end of episode just gave me an interesting thought. I am sure people here might have already explored that root. Adding one more proof to that.

Arnav always hated-loved khushi. Both emotions were equally strong. But how about the hate element, where is it coming from? Todays dialogue 'I don't want to give you credit for it', somehow it points the anwer?

A person always sees what he wants to see even though the truth is displayed on a hoarding. Whatever happened in Arnav-Khushi relationship since the terrace hug is not because of the misunderstanding or bad timing.It is because of Arnav. No doubt about it. He choose to see khushi in bad light. He painted khushi in black deliberately even though he has enough reasons to do otherwise. He choose to forget all those and put the culprit hat on her deliberately.

Now whatever color khushi dons, its invisible to him. He decided to be blind towards khushi. So no matter what she does, he is not going to , I should say, not willing to see the good khushi. It is not a surprise. He always loved to see khushi in a bad light since the beginning. Whatever the situation be he have a strong urge to portray her in bad light.

I think that urge to see bad in khushi comes from the Arnav's complex about himself. He is the confident and ruth less ASR. But deep down he is all confused about what he is. He confessed to anjali 'Mom will not even recognize me now'. He shared his worry to khushi 'Will my mom be proud of me?' Even khushi could not answer him affirmatively. Deep down he knows he is dark.

I think Unconsciously he is trying to pull khushi down from her righteous place, may be to make her equal to him? May be to make her worthy of him? May be he was never convinced deep down that he is worthy of khushi? The hatred between them is emanating from his complex. No where else.

Tis dialogue just cemented those. He neither wants to see her good side and nor let others see it.

I HAVE PAINTED YOU BLACK AND YOU ARE BLACK.


Shree, we have come a long way from the first episode. If you see the episode the you can figure out ASR is always like this. He is never expressive and he never gave her any kinda explanation for anything. When she went away with the salary when her dad was hospitalized, ASR was upset but he didn't run after rather he went to the hospital and paid the bill. Didn't he??? That's ASR. They both are polar opposites - one is a man of less words and one is loquacious. If Arnav never credits her openly, then Khushi knows to credit on every single thing. There is one another aspect is that ASR when caught redhanded always runs away and he never loves to face the reality named "KKG". Yes, its the same from the beginning but he will run after her after he verbally put her in place; This is the reason we all love his character...he sounds like kinda schizophrenic - isn't it??? But he is not. And never judge with one episode ---see how monday he plays out with the Credit thingy. There is definitely a loop open but today he actually said his "dil ki baat"... he actually said that he desn't wanna give her credit...a big step from ASR who never voices his opinion and always uses reverse psychology.

Next comes, Khushi's emotional continuation. It was happened due to the sudden change in the story line. the dance was added later and the bedroom scene was shot earlier. I here instead of criticizing will applaud them for rectifying the storyline here... yes, on monday I asked to give them till thursday and they will be back n track. Aren't they back on track??? See how they managed to hold a grip in the stroryline by thursday and friday. Don't you think so??? We should be giving them the credit for this immediate correction instead of blaming them.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: incandescent


Hey Doods 🤗

I am good...how are you ??


I am good Fari.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: showstruck

😊😊

No link has been posted. But, it show khushi on stage denying to accept the prize saying I can't accept this prize that I won with my husband and then nani comes and asks why?? And voice over say what is the reason behind khushi not accepting. That's it.
Sunil and Purbo-Pashchim is one of my most favorite till to date😊


Yup, PP is a good novel.

Oh I see... so, ASR will help her in dance...let's see how they show it and I am sure there will some kinda prelude to that fancy dress... So, heer ranjha is confirmed??? I have no qualms actually as long as it is logical...😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: TeriMeriKhushi

Will wait for your update Tanthya!

Doodle berry - loved your take on the scenes! Especially the comparison between the ghar ad the office. That similarity did not even strike me! Awesome analysis! You are so right - we saw two sides of the equation over the course of these days. Can't wait to see how the story unfolds now!

-updated

I'm not feeling well today, so won't talk too much about yesterday's episode. It was a bit of a light episode, but unlike last week's blend, this week had an almost perfect mix of comedy and drama. The CV's did a good job today of keeping the MU track progressing while still keeping the magic of IPKKND alive. This week I finally felt that I was once again watching the show that I have been watching since June.

"His whole life was a sham, a fairy tale. The truth hidden behind a wall of lies, each lie another brick in the wall until he probably couldn't see the truth anymore."

Starting from the beginning, Arnav is clearly bothered by any mention of lies or honesty from Khushi. He is the judge, jury, and executioner. He's already declared Khushi guilty in his mind, and any reminder of the crime that she has committed brings back memories of her betrayal. The moment she mentions that he should "thank her" you can see his entire demeanour change. He refuses to be indebted to Khushi for any reason. He doesn't want to give her that importance in his life - a place once given - would give her the ability to hurt him. In fact, his intention becomes to punish her not only for withholding the truth at the office, but for the hurt that he lives with every day.

For Arnav, every word out of Khushi's mouth is laced with deceit and every time he is reminded of the woman that he fell in love with'the woman he thought that she was, he simply adds another brick to the wall that he has once again resurrected around his heart.

As far as the utthak bhaitak in public. Well, some have no big problem with it, and some do. Totally understandable. Here's my reasoning as to why it was done - I am not condoning it, but I am trying to understand the perspective behind why it was done. The mere mention of honesty drew a reaction from Arnav where he just needed to be away from Khushi as he could not believe that the person who had betrayed him was lecturing him on honesty. That embarassing (it was meant to embarass her) act was not just for her lying to him at work, but also her lies in regards to Shyam. He wanted to show that he has nothing to thank her for, as he owes her nothing but heartache.
Now why did Khushi agree to it? What was the scene preceding that one? Khushi mentions the chot that she has again given Arnav. Khushi NEVER agrees to apologizing to Arnav when she feels that she is not at fault. Remember the scene when he found out that she was engaged? Khushi said she would not put her self-respect on the line for some ring. The only reason she agreed so readily today is because she feels an immense amount of guilt for whatever other chot she has given Arnav. The utthak bhaitak was not just for what happened at work - it is for that unknown chot that she knows has caused him a lot of pain.
"The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head."

I just want to post a bit of my thoughts on the notion that Arnav should realize that anyone caring this much for him - where she even hears him call her name without his voicing it - would never lie to him. When your entire world has been blown apart - everything becomes distorted. The truth about Khushi is all around him, but he refuses to acknowledge it. Because once you have decided to hate someone, everything they do is offensive. You feel they are being deceitful in every kind gesture, and refuse to show any gratitude for anything that they do.

Does that mean that Arnav will never believe Khushi? Not at all. But just right now, he has convinced himself that she is a fraud, and his entire life has been focused on never letting anyone get the best of him - especially when it comes to his heart. Soon there will come a moment when Arnav will realize that he was wrong, and he will flash back to every moment where he misunderstood Khushi. He will once again see her actions, but this time they will be reflected through a different lens. A clear lens. One which won't be obscured by anger, betrayal, and hurt.

"But you can't make people listen. They have to come round in their own time, wondering what happened and why the world blew up around them. It can't last."

It was really endearing to see Khushi try and "fix" the mistake she had made. It makes me wonder to what lengths will Khushi go to alleviate her "mistake" of not telling Arnav the truth about Shyam? This is the Khushi that we all know and love. The police officer had her pegged correctly - she is in fact a choti bachi'one who is trapped in a woman's body lol. I loved seeing her worry about Arnav not just because she was responsible for him losing his voice, but also because she feared never hearing his voice again. I just want to thank the CV's again for hearing our words about having Khushi depict her love for Arnav through her actions. Also, I loved the mention of the "chot". I feel that once the situation about this papers begins to unfold, Khushi will decide to uncover the matter of this "chot" once again. She will want to "fix" whatever mistake that she has made to upset Arnav to this extreme. Also, there was again mention of Arnav's naatuk. I wonder if when the truth comes out Khushi does not believe that Arnav cares for her - instead believes that he did all of this solely for Anjali.

Throughout this week we have seen that Arnav and Khushi are realizing the importance that they each play for each other. I can only wait for Arnav to realize this importance to the same extent that Khushi has today. Isn't Khushi supposed to get sick? Eager to see those scenes (if true).

Additionally, I loved Naani's mention of how if Anjali was here - Arnav would have drank the garda without question. Khushi was once again reminded of the lengths that Arnav will go for Anjali, and I believe it will help her piece together the "chot" that she has inflicted on him.

My only complaint is that I wish that Arnav's final line had been a bit more intense. Yes, it is hurtful that he said that he didn't want her to get any credit, but I would have loved a lengthier dramatic dialogue between the two.


Thanks TM.

I liked your analysis. On the credit thingy, I'll say let's not judge so soon and let u see how they play it out. Since the story is moving forward it will also have a catch in it. That's my opinion. 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: anjani-pagli

Lovely analysis doods... 🤗

will update mine in a while!

[Updated]

Before I list down my likes and dislikes... I just wanna say somethng
All the ppl who watch IPKKND, don't read IP-REDUX thread😆
So, as a layman, when I watched the whole episode, it was kinda pathetic
Will tell the reason in my dislike section

👍🏼Things I liked👍🏼

1.
Khushi gaining her victory. I loved the dialogue exchange in the car.. well although only khushi was speaking😆
What she said is, "Do you agree that anybody can do mistake, even you can do mistake?" n Arnav gt angry.
Well later this is what wl ASR thnk when he wl know the mistake he did in analysing Khushi.

One more dialogue,
"Ab aap humse maafi maang sakte hai"
Yes... he has to admit his fault.

2.
Payal-mamiji scene
good. I liked the duo

3
Shyam in his evil Mischief again😈
Payal entering the room to give tea. Will she be blamed again

4.Khushi's concern for ASR, indirectly to rectify her own mistake

5.
ASR in his smirk mode...

6.
Khushi asking for explanation from ASR.

7.
The last scene when all family gathers.. n mamaji's dialogue for Khushi
hisaab-kitaab😆


👎🏼Things I don't like👎🏼

1.
Well, thruout the day, Khushi ws helping ASR.
Be it in being her voice, or helping him in identifying the fraud duo.

Now what she got? uthak baithak (sit ups) in public road?

See ppl dnt read IP-REDUX thread
There r ppl who r nt immature teenagers and watch this serial

The whole scene is un-acceptable
Khushi giving in for whatvr ASR wants
I know later this wl help ASR in repent more..
bt what happened to the self-independent girl??

Even who are illiterate and can't read a line, have better self-respect than Khushi
Okay.. yes I am ranting.

2.
After coming back home. What khushi did? Being more concern than ever.😡
She is not at all feeling like an idiot at all

3. Anji going alone for checkup?😕

4. Mami changing to Krishna attire from doll, that was decided in prev episode
How come from doll, krishna bhagwaan came
yeh CVs mujhe pagal kar denge😆

Song pick for the day

{Whatever happens, khushi will always continue to love him}




AP, I typed the whole answer under your every point and it didn't get post saying I used some words that is invalid 😡...hahahhhaha 🤣

Well something imp wanted to tell you.


The sit-up scene apart from the Pati-patni connection reminded me f the water bucket scene at the office. That day when Khushi threw water in front of the guards made me think has disrespected ASR (both the boss and the husband) and the same way friday's scene disrespected Khushi in front of the Cop. But, the difference is the security guards know ASR and the cop doesn't know Khushi. Logically, what Khushi did to ASR in front of AR was also disrespectful like the sit-up of Khushi in the road. So, they are equal now. Nice jodi.

These two are always like this naa...did they ever think of place and situation???

Nice Post AP... I liked it and I hope this time it gets posted.
Edited by doodleberry - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: JRia

awesome analysis dear

didn't know that there was so much into it
kuddos to u


Thanks Ria. I appreciate so much. 🤗 yeah, every epi does deliver some message. Bas we need to figure it out.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: truthlover

Dood, excellent post, makes me think all is not lost, and there is hope

the MU is stretching longer than usual, i think PH and CVs are laying the foundation to reveal it to both the leads simulaneously...
Do you think shyam will be able to peek into arnav's locker? he is getting bolder, with arnav present he dared to sneak in.


Thanks TL. 😃

it's a soap opera and thoda toh lamba chalega..but they are getting closer though. Yah, I always mentioned the truth will be revealed to them simultaneously. But I guess after a week I can say, whether our predictions are right or wrong.

We need Shyaam to be bolder and he needs to save his A**... Ab we require him to do some mistake and then only he will be doing a big fiasco and the truth will come out.

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