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Posted: 13 years ago
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I AM NOT CHEAP >>>>>>>>>>>>> This one dialogue illustrated the difference between Arnav Singh Raizada and Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada for me..


Creatives, You are treading a very fine line here , in ur ardour to show a spirited and Sprightly Khushi , you are showing her as insensitive and Uncaring Girl...Remember insensitivity , unfeeling is ASR's department ...No, I am not asking her to sing lullabies for Arnav whilst he sleeps by the Poolside , Nor do I expect her to pace the floor , tearing down the curtains , Neither do I expect her to sit on the lounge and throw guilty , furtive glances at Arnav...I fully expect her to sleep peacefully on the bed , I do not expect her to apologize and she doesn't have to But I fully expect her to pause and reflect on her actions for a micro Milli second, I do not expect to see a all knowing smug smile hovering when a man is in pain .. A fleeting discomposure to be replaced by steely determination warring with dilemma ...

second ...How old is Khushi ?? I know ASR has a long list of faults but I definitely hope cradle snatching is NOT one of them... What did U say ..Khushi is in her twenties ... Ohhh and she is the one who has lost her parents and feels their presence amongst the stars ...Ahhh..she is also the sole bread winner , one who has taken hard blows, has learned to smile through out it ...Fine ..Are u getting the picture now ...Young Girl, sensitive, optimistic, mature , intelligent then Why the hell are u turning her into a shrieky , tantrum throwing spoilt brat ..which she is not ..

ASR is not cheap ..doesn't mean Khushi has to be cheap , Give her the higher ground ...


The Khushification of Arnav's world has become , The stark, austere room has been blitzed with glitzy, Blings .. Khushi has occupied the room and Arnav has been Kicked out [ deserving If I may say so] ...The T-J war commences and the battle for B is on with Arnav getting a strategic advantage ... his advantage is quickly repulsed by Khushi, Arnav has to retreat ..Khushi enters the B triumphant ..and there happens not one but 2 RV's..


Girlies..lets pat our self on our back ..here we were just talking , speculating, discussing in the previous thread saying that from now on we will see Khushi becoming aware of Arnav and Voila, We got the beginning !! 😃 ...And Pam ..Didn't I tell ya ..Arnav will pick up any vibes from Khushi hence Khushi is not shown having the Ahem ahem feelings...look at him today , he instantly picked on her hesitation after the first RV 😆😆... ** Getting Sober again** The RV's were interesting in that Khushi is getting conscious of Arnav, which is very vital for the future cos she must need a impetus to stay on, to fight for her position , for his love, Arnav must get involved cos his trust has to break again.. the trust of lover, of husband ...The water falling steadily ...the love has begin to shower back in her heart ...


Khushi arranging the rose when Both Arnav and Shyam comes down .. who will be the thorn and who will be the flower ... will Arnav be the initial thorn who will make the life hell only for him to repent later or will it be vice versa ...

The dining scene ..Loved the bickering of this two along with the way they both slipped into their Hubby-wifey mode ..Khushi serving all the while squabbling with him, Arnav accepting her ministration while forcefully telling her he does not want to see her ..😆😆😆...Arnav went away without food...will we see any repercussions on him ...

what will stop Khushi's antics ..>Seriously the OTT pranks have begun to grate rather than delight. Khushi enjoying playing with Arnav is in her character but her lack of concern when he leaves without breakfast esp knowing the effects of empty stomach previously somehow does not speak well of Khushi Kumari Gupta who cared for everyone irrespective of their attitude ..Stop butchering her , CV's ...



Shyam it is who is first of the mark... he is in the process of putting on the blinkers on Arnav Singh Raizada ... It is quite clear that he will convince Arnav that he is trying to make amends , get back his life but Khushi is not letting him go, situation may be created wherein the whole family or Arnav witnesses Khushi making a move towards Shyam ...This might provoke Arnav into throwing Khushi out of the house ..Khushi who had been saying 6 months may find herself out even sooner than that , Khushi might be unwilling to leave as she would like to see her name cleared but she will not be allowed to do so ..but later Shyam may himself let the cat out of the bag under the manipulations of Khushi ..Khushi will clear the stigma attached to her name , leave RM and herein will begin Arnav's repentance ..

The second instance may happen when the whole family will see Khushi and Shyam in compromising situation ... the blame will fall on Khushi ...But Payal knows the truth about Shyam, She knows that things cannot be as they seem .. she will begin to ferret out, dig deeper .. She might be aided by her father too in this purpose and Payal will be the one who will begin to set things right ..This will begin the closure of the loop that was opened in Teej ...Payal joined later with Akash will begin clearing Khushi's name..Khushi will soon join them and the truth will be told to the Raizada's plain and bald without any softening ...This time Khushi will leave under her own steam ...Arnav will realize the worth of Khushi then and again his redemption track starts ...


Or Arnav the lover may break down, he will lash out at Khushi revealing the actual reason...Khushi will then get the shock to jolt her out of her no brainy land.. she will fight back not just against Arnav who would have become a machine but also against Shyam ...leading to the truth ...

A final note to CV's ... I agree the leads are eye candies in their own right, they have a sizzling chemistry which captivates us... Both are capable actors ... BUT this factors will not keep us riveted to ur show, Give us a well structured track !! It's not just Arnav Singh Raizada BUT we are not Cheap either and our Loyalties do not come Cheap too ...

A eminently forgettable episode !!


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Satya..
So well said yaar. WE ARE NOT CHEAP either. We have our toleration level set and its reaching its optimum level. They are butchering the characters to no end... Now its Khushi's turn. She showed no feelings when he was in pain.Its first red flag. And second one is going to come soon. What are they doing to ASR/Arnav these days. Are they trying to show his level of patience towards Khushi and bearing all her antics or are they trying to show us that he know Khushi is irritating him as she is on a mission and he should not heed. The second red flag what I was talking about is IF ASR will believe his jijaji that he is on the reformation path and push the blame on Khushi.. I totally had it. Because how many proofs does ASR need to start his thinking process yaar. Didn't he see on Holi how Shyam was manipulating the entire crowd to smear gulal on Khushi.
These CVs are going on very high end road. Too complex. The thing is too many open loops does no good. Audience patience is running thin at moment. It was such a forced Rabba Ve...
My only suggestion to CVs please keep it simple. Dont try to complicate things then what it is. Its a very beautiful love story, misunderstandings are bound to happen, villain needs to be there and other characters need their screen space too. We get everything. But not at the cost of ruining the characterization of the soul.(ASR and Khushi)

Satya on a side note I am going to buy a power ball lottery today as I was the first one to comment on your post ...that means lady luck is showering her blessings on me!!!
Edited by mommamia - 13 years ago
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i am glad Cvs show Khushi smitten by Arnav's body..Yesterday was arnie's turn..

But i am disappointed with ASR sleeping at poolside..I mean we all waited for post HOLI that sleeping arrangement will change..but what we got..he went out!!😕
I will say too early say khushi does not have feelings..wait tomorrow ..she will go to office with lunch for him..
REMEMBER HOW LAVANYA WENT AND ASR THREW HER OUT!!
But for khushi he will not do that. She will feed him😊
Edited by Shastradhari - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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very well written sathya !!


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Well instead of as usual analyzing the whole episode (well there wasn't much to do and Sathya u have as usual covered every important point so perfectly that there is hardly anything that needs to be analyzed..i loved all the small nuances u brought about the hubby-wife behavior patterns they display and stuff👏⭐️👏..)i thought of posting something i was thinking whole evening long while bwosing through the forum..

Ok so i have seen posts bashing (or in polite terms criticizing) her behavior today.
And i have also read posts that were defending her and showing that Arnav was still way ahead on the torture department..

but this post is not about either! i say why justify either way!! cz for a change i believe the CVs have done a perfect job!!


Ok so people found her behavior way way OTT right? u all thought she went too far? it was almost grating and insolent, now the criticizers that is ur view right? so i say yes up to a certain extent there was a very jarring sore thumb kind nature to the behavior..

But now let us put the mein mein tu tu to a side and see what Mrs. Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada set out to do today!

Let me quote her on 19th March episode where she sat down on the coffee table after having pleaded with Arnav to not hurt her sister, she wiped her tears and told herself "bas khushi,ab bohot hogaya rhona. apne humse kahathana ki che mahine tak humme yeh shadhi nibani hogi, ab hum apse wada karte hai Mr. Raizada ki bohoti jald aap khud humme iss gharse jaane keliye kahengi "
than meant, "enough crying Khushi. u told me that i have to carry this marriage until 6 months, now let me make u a promise Mr. Raizada that, before long u urself will ask me to leave this house"


So what did she do today? became a complete and utter nuisance to Arnav, a complete pest. So is she wrong? NAH SHE IS NOT!!
She in her despair decided to rebel..and rebel she did and she is utterly unapologetic about her behavior, cz truly she set out to do it purposely so that he would let her free..
So why would she feel sorry for him? or actually show it if she was actually sorry?

And if her antics were cheep, they were cheep shots for a reason! to make sure he was annoyed and fed up enough to throw her out of the house!!

So i have a feeling that most of the people in the forum actually have the problem with Khushi actually seeming to have a good time and enjoying her antics as she plays them on him!
So that is Khushi..that is the Khushi we have been promised by the CVs, the girl who would have a smile lighting up her face in even the most dire circumstances..


So stop this search for justifications, cz truly why would we need to justify her behavior when it is not inconsistent, it is well thought out and a sure shot plan of action that would ruffle his feathers the most! it is not how she would have behaved if she hadn't purposely gone ahead with conscious thought!had she actually behaved so without this single mindedness to be thrown out, there would be justified reasons to call her behavior childish or inconsistent..

So now look at it from this angle instead of saying her character is inconsistent cz this time for a change her character stays true to her form..

Edited by princessunara - 13 years ago
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I. Am. So. Confused.

I really wonder if the CV's had Khushi turn the tables on Arnav because they were bombarded with the complaints that Arnav was being too mean to Khushi. And if that is the case? Then that makes me really, really mad. What could have been a really amazing story is now being watered down with comedy galore. What is this a circus?

WHEN are we going to get viewpoints of the characters? WHEN is there going to be consistency? The CV's really need to buck up and ignore the detractors and STICK to the story they want to tell. Because I can't tell you how much longer I am willing to tolerate watching a story that makes absolute no sense. There are more holes in this story than swiss cheese.

I am sick of trying to reason why Arnav or Khushi are acting in certain ways. The CV's should be telling us what their justification is behind their actions. I shouldn't be scratching my head after every episode trying to figure out how it relates to the previous one.

I get that Khushi is young, but this is getting ridiculous. 18 or not, this sort of behaviour does not befit Khushi. Frankly, I am also getting sick of getting thrown random rabba ve's as if a scrap here and there will appease the viewers instead of giving some actual logic to this storyline. For the first time since I started watching the show I felt the rabba ve was truly forced (the bathroom one). I felt like I was SI and BS, and was just watching two people stare at each other wondering when is this going to end? I WANT A STORY. Yes, I love the chemistry between the leads, but I also love the story that has progressed so far. Key word - progressed.

Seriously lol, the only thing I am asking for at this point is just ONE discussion about what the heck is going on in Arnav's mind. What does he blame Khushi for? Where does he stand??? I can't believe that after a month I STILL do not know what the MU is on his side. It is ridiculous.

Okay, frustration over. Now onto the track and the key scenes that stood out.

"Tumhari taran cheap nahin hoon main." This is just another statement we can add onto the double entendre list of lines that Arnav has spoken to Khushi. His opinion of Khushi's character has dropped so low, and frankly with these stunts I feel as if the CVs are trying to keep Arnav's opinion of Khushi low. I agree Tantya, I honestly wonder if Khushi's behaviour is supposed to feed into whatever Shyam wants Arnav to think. Shyam will portray himself as being pristine, and a day will come when he will set-up Khushi in a situation where Arnav will once again misunderstand her. However, this time I feel as if it will be when Khushi will learn the truth about what Shyam is doing. Maybe she will try to convince Arnav that what he sees is not the truth, and she is innocent. Arnav will not believe her - and kick her out? Then upon learning the truth a repentance track will begin?

I don't even know anymore lol. I just want these childish stunts to end, and for us to actually get to the meat of the story.
Edited by TeriMeriKhushi - 13 years ago
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Tanthya,

Woh!! Someone seems to be very pissed with the CV's today and I do not blame you at all. What are they doing with Khushi's character? Is she the same girl who got totally flabbergasted and forgot everything ASR has done to her just because he hinted that she has given him "Dukh"? Today, that same guy is in pain, and she is smiling. (at one moment she made Shyam look good) Second, he leaves the table without eating anything and she is not even bothered. Pain and food are two things anyone and especially Khushi Kumari Gupta would inquire about even if the person is her nemesis, and he is definitely more than that, right? Leave the love part aside, this is simple human courtesy!!!

Well, at least we have the answer about the attraction thing. Tants, you were absolutely right he did catch on, tussi great ho 👍🏼aapke feet kidhar hain😆 but, damn damn, damn, his brain is still on vacation, he is not speculating. 😒 I know, I know, we cannot have everything.😉


I still maintain that both should know the truth simultaneously. If the CV's make this into another SP saga where the girl has to prove her innocence, I will never ever forgive them. But out of all the options, you have given, I choose the third one. I feel that as Arnav was standing next to her, when fingers were pointed at her the first time, it should be Arnav who should be standing next to her when fingers are pointed at her again but this time the difference would be that he will know she is totally innocent. Hopefully, Payal will be with her and not on the other side. But will Aakash stand with his wife and brother or will he be with his sister and mother? I think, he will support only his brother not his wife because if she is with her sister, she will break his trust right along with her silence.

Thus, let me repeat my daily mantra, "Fantastic post, Tanthya"


Below is my analysis:

Shyam vs Arnav


Today, on the surface it looked like, Shyam is the one who is at an advantage but is he really? Yes, he is the only one who is going to decide when Arnav enters this game, when the battle starts and he is not going to do it unless and until he is absolutely sure he is going to win. He has time on his side as well as Arnav's tunnel vision which believes only what he sees. But is this really going to be a disadvantage for Arnav? I think not. Let me explain with all the subtle hints that were given in today's episode:

  1. Arnav promised Khushi that he will let her use the shower first, but he broke it without a second thought. Thus promises or his word to people who are using false means really do not matter to him, if losing is the other option.
  2. Arnav, today with the shower tap, gave in to Khushi's demands as he knew there was no other way. He bowed to the situation but as soon as he was out of it, he threatened and scared her. Similarly, when situation demands he will bow but it will be just to get out of it. It will never be in defeat.
  3. Arnav's said two significant sentences today, "They are cheaters" and "I intend to make them pay". The moment he realized that he has been cheated, he forgot all about his surroundings. His only focus then was to make the thieves pay. Thus,the moment Shyam reveals the truth to Arnav, he is going to forget everything and his only focus is going to be to destroy the cheaters and make them pay.
  4. Arnav is a man of vison and action. He believes only what he sees and he acts accordingly. Today, he saw Shyam was buying the flowers for his wife (Noticed how reacted as a lover and not as a brother), he connected the dots and decided to act. He did not pause to think or plan. Just acted. But when he realized that Shyam was doing something for Anjali and his baby, did he do damage control? No, he did not even bother to apologize or repeat his warnings. Why? Because he does not need to, everything is in his control, his goal is secured. His, this ability to react based on the situation without requiring any planning, is his greatest strength. For him, the goal is important, as long as that is secured, he does not care who gets hurt.

Saying all this, is "not knowing" really a disadvantage for Arnav. The guy who sees, assesses, analyzes and reacts as per the situation in a space of some moments (or hours) and still comes out a winner, really does not need any intimation of the danger lurking around him nor does he need the time to prepare. For him, his fear is only his failure at achieving his goal other than that he is not at all scared of anyone and especially not his opponent.

Same cannot be said for Shyam. Time and again, it has been shown to us that Shyam is scared of Arnav, and thus his survival instincts will force him to initiate Arnav's entry into this game only when he is absolutely certain his strike will be the killing blow. But will it really be? It will be a major strike, no doubt about it, it will stagger Arnav, but when Arnav strikes back, all the time, all the preparation, everything that Shyam has done in the past, will be irrelevant.

We have seen this before. In the first round, Shyam had began his quest for Khushi as soon as he saw her. It took him months to build his castle, place his army and create his kingdom of dreams, lies, and hope which he did with both legal and illegal means. Though it was struck once by Khushi, his castle of hopes and dreams remained strong and erect but Arnav within a few hours and with just one strike crumbled it to pieces. Will this time be different?

I rest my case with quoting something that Tanthya, you said to me yesterday, " Arnav is one of those players who comes in the dead heat and changes the whole game within a second , he is the soaring eagle who will have the birds eye-view and can dive in for the Kill in a moment !! Ruthless, intelligent, clinical and a hunter.."

Khushi as a weapon:

Khushi is currently attacking Arnav but is it really affecting him? No. He listens, he sees, he adapts and he moves on. But the only thing about her, that hurts him like hell is when she declares , "Mein aapse nafrat karti hu".This one sentence can be Shyam's formidable weapon if he is made aware of it and he might use it time and again, against Arnav before makes his killing strike. Similarly, unknown to Arnav, his weapon against Shyam, is his ever increasing closeness to Khushi (we are in for loads of eye twitches) and Khushi's uncanny habit of reacting before confirming. (which we saw the other day with Payal as well as with her shower today)

I hope when Arnav turns bitter, this time Khushi Kumari Gupta- Singh Raizada will compare his current sweetness to his then bitterness, start adding two plus two and hopefully does not let it go (like this time) until and unless she comes up with a five, which will eventually lead her straight to Shyam Manahor Jha and the terrace.

I might sound like a broken record but I really want the terrace scene revisited, in exactly the same way but this time both of them, at the end, should know the actual and the only truth, thus giving rise to his redemption which should happen before the family is made aware of the truth.


PS: On a lighter note,

  • Imagine Snakewa face😡, if Anjali would have revealed the reason for Arnav's neck sprain as she interpreted it.😉
  • "Grass is always greener on the other side", right? More than half of IPPKND fandom is drooling over her hotwa husband and she is drooling over Salman Khan. Can it be anymore ironicwa?😛😆

Edited by pamk06 - 13 years ago
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Nice analysis as usual, so true that v r not cheap either, whereas I loved yesterdays episode todays episode did not work 4me 4the most part.

I assume post Arnavs holi confession which he remembers part if not all of they r tryin to show a more mellow Arnav to contrast him to wat he was like at the time they got married and that is y he is putting up wit everything K is doing with relative restraint. I am going on the assumption that after Khushi thought that Arnav was tryin to mess wit Payals marriage again she is doin everything she can to annoy him and get kicked out quicker than 6 months and that is y her behaviour is bein shown as OTT and crass because one would assume that someone who was the breadwinner in the family and who has dealt wit so much in her life while being exuberant would know how to behave appropriately. Again I assume they are showing a contrast to her behaviour from a couple of days ago when she found out about the tablet her first concern was Arna and contrast that to todays when she does not show any concern about the crick in his neck or not having breakfast.

Yesterday they showed he was attracted to her with the RV and today it was her turn, they are showing that both are attracted to each other, which is a start that needs to be built upon. The conversation between the two at breakfast was nice.

Shayam has put his plan into action and only time will tell whether it would go down the expected route and create more misunderstandings or if the CVS surprise us with the unexpected but that depends on whether Arnavs brain is in gear, I hope the CVS keep his initial character sketch intact when they showed him as being intelligent and calculating. The second half of the show I enjoyed more than the first half. Shall c what tomorrow brings in terms of repaying the loan.

I wish the CVS were more consistent with their approach, it was only a few days ago she was trying to find out why he had married her and how she had hurt him and now its like she does not remember that. If it was a case of that she doesn't want to rock the boat because Arnav would threaten Payals marriage than all they needed to do was put in a quick scene where she is having that conversation with herself to show that she has not gotten amnesia. It was yesterdays episode that she thought Shayam was getting to much and something needed to be done but no mention of it today. I don't expect the plan to be revealed at this stage but some continuity would be nice.

The new banner at the adverts is interesting and with the msngalsuter being stuck between the two it will b interesting to c if it has any deeper meaning than the current battle of wills. The cvs are moving the story forward with Shayams plan so I'm going on the assumption that they have a plan and are showing all this for a reason which will unfold later.


Edited by sarra0 - 13 years ago
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I so agree with you! Love the way you have given us future insight by just the analysing shyam's intentions! I mean there was no other thing to analyse :|
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I think your last line said it all! One episode I wish I'd missed...

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