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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: doodleberry



A big Thank You Sunara 🤗 🤗 🤗

I love reading you. Keep writing and take some time out to post your views out of your study schedule... 😃



thanks darling!
🤗🤗🤗
and i try my best..the biggest problem is when Satya usually posts it is after abt 2am my time and if i have to go to college the time i get to open the topic again is around 6pm and then the chatting has started and all seriousness gone!!
but i love to read everything u guys have written that i i usually spend a whole while at college b/w lectures(thank god for mobile phones!:p) explaining to my best friend all the new dynamics u guys have brought out and i end up doing a verbal full discussion!!😆


and btw i am really gonna miss ur reviews on the symbolism and the loops next week!!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: pearlo

RES...😊

I always follow your takes tant...n then doodle's...infact i have followed doodle's takes/jabs since GHSP days!!!...n i must say i look forward to both your takes...infact alot of times i dont get i few things...but then i read your takes n then abuse the rewind button...!!! you definately pump the much required positivity in the forum which i much required at times...keep up the good work both of you...n stay blessed !!!



Thank You, Pearlo


yes, I have heard that Doods gave pretty sharp jabs too 😃..

Don't fear , Pearlo as long as there is even a ray of light ..we will hold on to it and elaborate on that ..
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Supna9


when u wrote u sent me pm n i got but sathya didnt . N I couldnt blame her i never say her pm me hehehe. But tum khud se kr deti ho i never said to u also 4 pming but i m thankful to u . U pm me na thanks doods .



Lo ji, Ulta chor kotwal ko dhaante, kabhi tumne yeh nahi kaha ki mujhe link bhej do..ek baar kehdiya hotha tho aapki hukum sar aakhon pe lekar hum kardethen...Aage se link daud ke aayega tumhari paas 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
wow! taths, doods... lovely analysis!👏
I love doods' analysis today!
It matched my mental opinion abt the episode...⭐️

👍🏼Things I liked👍🏼

1. lovely continuation from prev episode.

2. Arnav, confessing his heart to Khushi..

3.
The ziddi singh raizada who does nt want Khushi to go from her have u guys noticed, even when his Di called, he was reluctant to let her go.
I said in my prev episodic analysis, when ASR walked towards dancing khushi, he was walking towards his own happiness from his past(nani) & his responisbility(Anji)
Today he did the same. He wants khushi to be HIS, want her to be with HIM. Even when his rsponsibility is calling him, he chose to be with HIS khushi!

4. Arnav waiting for khushi outside!
Somehow to me it depicted ASR always knows thngs from its outward shell, he does nt know whts happening in reality.

5. Shyam - Khushi scene
well I loved it bcoz, Shyam is the greatest cupid Villain I have ever seen. So let him do some of his tricks to unite KKG and ASR😆

6. Mami-Payal-Mama
a refresing one. Still nthng important to me.. except mami will be now on Uptaan😆

👎🏼Things I did not liked👎🏼

1.
Arnav and khushi, were together coming down to the hall to eat nimbu achaar... Arnav was in no mood to leave his Khushi... so how come, even before bhaang nasha is gone.. they r sitting so far away😆
I wanted them to hold hands together n then eat nimbu, wanted to see ASR's expression after that🤣

2.
Anjali coming and seeing Khushi crying with Shyam again hiding... kyaa yaar yeh insaan hai ya superman😆

3.
In the CD, why only Arhi? ANji has totally forgotten that Payash are also married😕

4.
Shyam babu-- Please work on ur expressions... its sometimes pathetic


⭐️New Addition⭐️
[Will be sharing a song which I wl feel apt for the episode.
Whoever wants to make VM from that please pm me too😳]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbK8KW-1D34[/YOUTUBE]

Abhi na jaao chod kar ke dil abhi bhara nahin -2
Abhi abhi to aayi hoo abhi abhi to
Abhi abhi to aayi ho bahar banke chhayi ho
Hawa zara mahak to le nazar jara bahek to le
Ye shaam dhal to le zara - 2
Ye dil samhal to le zara
Main thorhi der jee too lun nashe ke ghuunt pi to lun
Nash eke ghunt pi to lun abhi to kuchh kuchh kaha nahin
Abhi to kuchh suna nahin
Abhi na jaao chod kar ke dil abhi bhara nahin
Edited by anjani-pagli - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Awesome Analysis Tant!!

Loved the episode and your analysis and interpretation of the scenes makesit all more good!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: doodleberry

Tant, how do you manage to write so beautifully??? Every time you exceed your own excellence. The episode was nice and yeah a light hearted one. I will try to read your analysis next week on phone 'coz I cannot miss them. It's my daily manna. As usual, it's TANTASTIC. 👏 👏 👏

Confusing episode. Well these are the two words that I typed first. There were so many scenes that mixed and matched and intertwined with each other left me completely muddled. There were Khushi-Arnav scenes, Shyaam-Khushi scene, Anjali with Khushi scene, family lounge scene and lastly, Payal with in-laws scene. All these scenes were important and making me flummoxed hence let me pen down slowly and see what comes out of it. Definitely Khushi and Arnav is in insanity and that is why Khushi disclosed the truth to Shyaam which is the proof of whatever that happened between her and Arnav they hardly will remember. Good touch by the creative team here to put Shyaam - Khushi scene at the last. It will be easy to prove that they will not remember anything but may suspect something happened or if the truth is spilled. What they spilled??? They might not figure out.

"And if you don't have your ears open, you're not going to be able to figure out what you should be doing" ~ Walter Isaacson

The moment I watched Shyaam - Khushi scene, the above quote came to my mind. Yes, you know what the problem with human mind is??? It's that we only see what our eyes want to see and only hear what our ears want to hear. These facts are related to our subconscious mind. See this is how it works. Our subjective mind is completely under the control of our objective mind and hence our subjective mind works towards the attainment of the goals set by our objective mind. Whatever our objective minds is impressed upon, the subjective minds with complete devotion work towards its final consequences. Yeah, Shyaam's objective mind has only one goal, by hook or crook he needs to attain Khushi. For this, his subjective mind only work towards listening or seeing what is necessary to attain that goal but overlooks many important facts. Shyaam pulled Khushi to a nook just to get to know the truth behind the sudden wedding of Khushi and Arnav, and Nothing Else. Yes, a learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one. Shyaam believes that in the intoxicated state or in insanity whatever a person speaks, speak the truth and nothing else. When Khushi spoke many truths in the intoxicated mind, Shyaam only picked those data that he wanted to believe and he thought is a very important parameter for solving the riddle of the sudden wedding. Khushi gave out many truths to Shyaam since last two days and these all truths are the most important clues, some are her perceptions and judgments and some are facts '

1. Aap bure insaan ho

2. Aap mujhe iss tarah mat chuiyye

3. Ek ho gayi humari dhadkanein - pata hain kyun??? Kya fark padta hain??? (regarding her and Arnav)

4. Khushi lamented and covered her face;

5. Arnavji Kahan hain???

6. Arnavji dhamki deke humse Shaadi ki

7. par pata nehin kyun???

A generally intelligent and calculative person will consider all the clues but Shyaam Manohar Jha picked out the last two, as that truth, according to him will lead him to his prized possession, Khushi. He wanted to know Khushi and Arnav are not together as he suspected earlier before the terrace revelation and most importantly, Khushi is aloof of this entire crux of the situation. Is he happy??? Of course he is as according to him, he has four jobs in his hands now just to attain success.

1. To gloat in front of Khushi that she spilled the beans to him and that he will take care of this problem;

2. Work on the reason based on which Arnav threatened her for the wedding and put the blame on Arnav and act as a catalyst for their separation;

3. To gloat in front of Arnav that Khushi told him everything and how much they are together in turn increasing the MU between Arnav-Khushi;

4. I am suspecting he will try to interfere in the sleeping arrangements as he knows the truth now with the motive of exposing the "Deal" of the wedding in front of the family; Khushi's unknowing of the main reason gave him strength to take this action.

Now these are the main works that he will be currently occupied with. Can you foresee the drawbacks in all these possibilities??? There is one very important equation that he will NOT be considering here. That is "Arnav-Khushi Equation". The last scene where he called Khushi from behind, his monologue that still there is some hope for him to reunite with her in future proved how he had affected his subconscious mind by verbal repetition. This proved what he heard from Khushi and what actually he had taken into consideration. Khushi even in her intoxicated state of mind declared him that he is pathetic; warned him not to touch her; informed him that she and Arnav have become "One in Soul"; time and again in conscious state and subconscious state of mind she had put him in place;

Confession, whatever it is, in subconscious state of mind is way more important than in the conscious state of mind for in conscious state, one can deceit but one can never ever deceit in subconscious state of mind. You will be not in a position to even think of deceiving others or satisfy others. Khushi in that state confessed what she and Arnav feel for each other and that is in my opinion is "THE MOST" important clue to Shyaam Manohar Jha. The clue where she said so lovingly - "koi tanav nehin hai... ek ho gaye hain humari dhadkanein". That clue will prove why after knowing the truth Khushi will forgive ASR in a snap of a finger; that clue will prove why Khushi cried just after disclosing the truth to Shyaam and clasped her face with her palms for she remembered that she had hurt Arnav and still she doesn't know why and immediately she called for "Arnavji"; that clue will provide when Khushi will learn the truth between Shyaam and Arnav she will support Arnav even after what Arnav had done to her for she understands him and his actions; for hurting him is what she would never think of even in her worst nightmare. Yes, Shyaam Manohar Jha is only seeing what he wants to see now for he doesn't know the Love that Khushi and Arnav share is "Unconditional" and will feel as if he achieved triumph but that will be temporary for as Martin Luther King, Jr. says ~ "I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. This is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant".

The possible track that we are progressing as I have mentioned many a times and even yesterday, that we are heading towards the truth revelation and I still feel it will be simultaneously and today's episode kinda proved me that; both Khushi and Arnav will learn the truth separately from Shyaam but almost at parallel times. Arnav's repentance and their confession will take place IMO and it will be Khushi who will forgive him and bring him back from the Temple. The loop where Arnav said about the phone that he will not search for her next time, remember that??? It will be Khushi this time searching for him in the repentance scene. Yes, that loop was opened that day and will end later on as I mentioned in my analysis, early this month, somewhere. But, she will walk away when Anjali will learn the truth and Guptas will be exposed.

Another important scene I loved is Payal-Mama and Mami scene. It's a no brainer to realize that now Shyaam will use Payal as a his "Bait" to separate Arnav and Khushi and to expose the crude truth of their wedding with painting a pretty bad picture of Arnav in front of Khushi and the world. Payal covering up Mami in front of Mama will help in the track when some understanding will be required in the track. Well, as I said above, whatever the evil does it's the unarmed truth that succeeds. Yes, by Shyaam using Payal as a pawn will eventually prove Arnav "JUST" in the eyes of Khushi. Remember, Aakash still has to deliver the deal papers to Arnav and Khushi will learn that Arnav never even intended to break Payal's wedding. That truth of Arnav will lead to Khushi's learning of the truth.

One thing I want to state here, I have invested 2 pages on MS Word here to describe the characteristic of Shyaam and his probable actions in the story line. But does Abhaas deserve this??? When finally he is getting an important track why is he delivering a sloppy performance??? This is your track Abhaas and if you don't gear up now, when will you do??? Concentrate on your acting please as we need a terrific performance in the coming months from you. It should be justifiable and convincing.

Now I want to describe one scene that really touched me today even more than yesterday's "Subconscious Realization". Today's one scene by Arnav - Khushi made me revisit the Diwali episode in my memory. One gesture, by Arnav, was so perfect that I couldn't stop myself from penning down my thoughts here. No, neither there is any loop that was closed today nor any loop is opened today. There are some things in love that we do and we don't realize why we do. Sometimes in trance, sometimes in consciousness and sometimes in subconscious mind, we do behave like stubborn and selfish children for our own happiness. Just for ourselves we love to live a "Moment".

"The greatest gift that you can give to others is the gift of unconditional love and acceptance" ~ Brian Tracy


That was Diwali day, yeah my favorite episode. That day the mighty Mr. Arnav Singh Raizada opened his heart out to his "lady love", Khushi Kumari Gupta. That was the day he felt the urge towards this lady but he was not ready to open up completely. Yes, he was mesmerized by her beauty and found himself attracted towards her; brought her out from the circle of diyas; found out that the "Payal" which he had treasured is actually her Mother's keepsake that she lost and holds dearly. Upon knowing that she never adorns herself with any other anklet, the dark prince decided to let go off this treasure of hers. Yes, he couldn't understand that the love had already began and in which moment, he was not aware of but he knew that he cannot keep her unhappy; a smile on her face was more important for him than this treasure; She was hurt that day and he helped her heel from the pain of her ankle but then when she was about to take off her foot from his knee, he stopped her. I loved this gesture that day, he stopped her from removing her foot not for himself but for her happiness; he stopped her to return her Mom's anklet; he stopped her to adorn her with the "Payal"; that day all this gesture was for her happiness and not for himself; He didn't know what he did at that "Moment", why he did but he did. It was for her, solely for her.


Today, is the day they are back again in the same pool. They are in an intoxicated state of mind at this moment; they poured their hearts out this moment; they declared their hearts beat together and that in soul they are united; this moment is theirs. Yeah, it was difficult that day for them to realize the love which was binding them but, today it is easy for them to realize that the love has begun. Indeed. When Khushi was about to get up from the pool, he stopped her and today he did it not because he had to return something to her; not because of her happiness; but because of himself. Today he wanted her to stay just because of his own happiness for he wanted to live in this moment; for this "Moment" is theirs. This moment is his and hers. He stopped her not once but twice and it was for him, solely for himself. Solely for Arnav Singh Raizada, the dark prince and it was silently gifted by Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada.

That day he had given her respect by kneeling down as if he was seeking her love but today they sat together at the same level, side by side, as if she had accepted his proposal, his Love with full consciousness. That Diwali day even after that gesture he rejected her plight for answers and thrashed her heart and now even after he'd broken her heart for the second time, today also, she loves her truly as in subconscious mind your heart speaks the truth; speaks your feelings. Whatever the dark prince did to her and still treating her, she still loves him and if that is not the greatest gift by her to him then what is??? Yes, even Arnav after witnessing what she did to his dear sister, deep down he still loves her truly and if this is not the greatest gift by him to her then what is??? For "The only love worthy of a name is unconditional"; for Iss Pyaar ko kya Naam Doon when that pyaar is "Unconditional"???

Yesterday we saw their hearts that connected them at the Gazebo months back was finally acknowledged by them at the same Gazebo and the Pool. Now we will see their journey that had started from the Terrace to the Temple will be fulfilled again from the Terrace to the Temple when they will consciously accept each other and solemnize their togetherness.


P.S. Sorry, I won't be analysing whole next week but will do a weekly review on next friday.



A Dantastic Post, Doods


Shyam has always been a fav character of mine...[irrespective of how Abhaas portrays him ]...He is the only Villain , I know whose every action results in a totally opposite reaction... Loved ur take on him😃
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: areeba_blossom

Awesome Analysis Tant!!


Loved the episode and your analysis and interpretation of the scenes makesit all more good!



Thank You, Areeba 😃

Same here, I loved the episode..right from the beginning to the moment when Shyam blows his own trumpet ..😛
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hey Tanthya! :))


No need to say - but a brillinat analysis of yesterday's episode! Had forgotten all about it with BS's interview (cannot blame myself - It was fab!). However reading your post brought back yesterday's episode again. How does it happen that you notice the small nuances that I miss out on!? Will watch the episode again later now :))

Coming to the episode - I guess in one of your previous analysis you did say that when Arnav smiles - the next moment there is something wrong that will happen to wipe it of his face. Yesterday reminded me of it. Arnav and Khushi - two pure souls intoxicated in love - realizing what it meant to be with each other - realizing that they cannot live without each other - realizing that they belong with each other - were drifted apart involuntarily by the darkness. Arnav waiting for Khushi while she got her dupatta was adorable at first and then I could see that he will wait for her always. Khushi on the other hand - scared - yet being herself let go of the biggest secret of her married life to the man who will be hell bent on trying to break it up. But will he be successful!? Nah! I do not think so! And that I say from how well you have explained Anjali's role here.

If Shyam is the darkness - Anjali is the light. If Shyam wants to break them up - Anjali wants to keep them together. And inadverntly both of them - Shyam and Anjali will do the same thing - bring the two souls together. Shyam will do it - again without realizing - his overconfidence is what will take his down. Arnav may be in for some bad time and so maybe Khushi - because this truth can change many things - yet I personally think this will push the two together and more closer. And I for one am glad that Shyam got to know the truth - his gloating will show him the way out of RM and soon.


Coming to Mami and Payal - I do not know but I feel Mami does not hate payal persay - its just a pretense that she keeps. I do not know why I feel this. Yes sometimes it does irritate me to see her but somehow I think she has accepted Payal in her heart - its her mind which refuses to do so. Maybe there is some insecurities coming into play here!? Mama is hilarious - I would love to see him more.

Rest - I guess, depends on how Shyam plans to react to this particular news. If I have to guess - he is gonna gloat like hell! And that I would call is digging up his own grave. Like you said - the ace is in Shyam's hand - how he uses it changes the way the game will be played but then yes The Joker - Anjali - will be there to equalise whatever the ace does wrong.

Love ;)

P.S : After so many days I made it to the first page!! Phew!! But yayyy! I am happy! :)

One more point -

I really liked how Khushi held on to Arnav after she realized that she had said something wrong to Shyam. The way she held him was cute and trusting. And when Arnav cupped her face and asked her what was wrong that was again a sign of how he feels all her pains and wants to remove them - no matter what.







Hi Anna,

I know , I can understand how u must have felt hearing the live interview ... 😃


Indeed , Anna..Shyam it will be who will try to separate Arnav-Khushi but actually will end up bringing them closer than ever, while Anjali will ensure that they come together [ for now] and PAYASH will ensure that they stay together ..



Shyam is a bad bluff player .. he overdraws and is over confident , has supreme confidence on his abilities and this are the factors that will lead to his downfall...


Yes, I liked the tight way she clutched on to Arnav, seeking sanctuary in his arms, trying to hide away from the evil..😃
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mouramen

wonderful analysis. was waiting for it. some how got an answer of my views too.

super end to a super week. all loops open. let me talk about them one by one. fabulous Arhi moments. very delicately shot. nice BG score.
1. Arnav and Khushi talks about hamare dhadkan. ... for d first time Arnav did not jump at Anjali's call. like i had already mentioned yesterday about Lavanya's parting dialogue... Arnav reacted d same. the day he understood his love , his feelings he will not let go his love however intoxicated he might be. jo tum mehsoos karte ho woh hum b he mehsoos karte hai. while they r close to each other and break away to answer Ajali d dupatta falls off. is it a sign of d days to come when they live as husband and wife or is it d signal of something dangerous? Shyam trying any physical assault on any one of them...i always remember that initially IPK was named VAIDEHI which means Sita...is there a agnipariksha Khushi also has to go thru to prove her innocence... but i loved it when d stubborn kid is arnav insists on waiting for Khushi. he is waiting for ages and ages my love and Khushi will always find him waiting for her at d end of d road... they will hold hands and completely d journey together.

The first call of Anjali, they move away , Anjali brings them together again... Second , Duppatta has usually stood for honor !! Both remain oblivious of the danger , of the impending hazard ...Shyam strikes just at the moment when she is regaining the Honor , couple this with the Haldi ceremony where Shyam tries to erase teh Haldi stain.. I am thinking that it will be some abortive attempt of Shyam to instigate Khushi/Arnav against one another ... Abortive in the sense, Anjali steps in between and prevents total breakdown
2. Anjali was not drinking Bhaang becos of her pregnancy. she had already accepted Khushi as her bhabhi... they why she goes back to calling her khushiji again ?is all d equations and realations r going to get ruffled once again? but according to me a very positive sign was thatAnjali sporting yellow gulaal on her cheeks. she gets Khushi back to ARnav is clearly indicating what a pivotal part she is going to play in ARHI's life.


Moura, I think it was the negative feedback on Anjali calling Khushi Bhabhi that lead to Anjali reverting back to Khushi ..

3. Khushi used to have major fights with Arnav...one of d reason being she wanted to finish d job in hand alone without his help. time and again i keep refering to Arnav's tum har kaaam akeli nehi kar sakte... will we see frm now onwards khushi will hold arnav's hand to cross d bridge? today every step she took she held onto her husband's arm. TOGETHER WE FIGHT.

Would love to see this scenario playing out and yes, It will happen ..

4. Arnav waiting for Khushi but turning his back. that wedding night on d terrace too he turned his back and didnt listen to d full conversation. he is being oblivious or is it d nature of any villain a RAVAAN like Shyam trying his antics frm behind. every time that snake is hiding behind a tree.
5. Mamaji suddenly gets into talking. refers to d start of ULTI GANGA in d Raizada family...two statements he made Arnav bitwa running behind his wife and according to me d more important one tum dono kaha furrr ho gaye? will that bring some memories back to these bhanngofied couple who have just surrendered to their DHADKAN????



Thank You, Moura😃


I am in Blue 😊




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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mishti_17

I was waiting to read your analysis Sathya..

Wonderful one.. ArHi moments rocked.. I loved the way they were sitting by the poolside holding each other.. It was such a soothing scene..




Thank You, Mishti 😃..I agree ..This scene was quite soothing and heart filling too 😃


Haayi, Ur Siggies 😍


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