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Posted: 13 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: MsUniverse

It seems totally unlikely...but I am still hoping for some rituals next week...May be Arnie will feel bad about shutting the door on Anj's face...and make some concession...

CVs...the leads get married only once...You showed us the side charcaters getting married for more than 1 week...Come on...lets have at least 1 week for Arhi's wedding...contrcatis done ...point is made...Now lets us have a proper wedding...

Sush, may be they will show us flash back of Marriage rituals too. Kushi thinking how it all happened kind of later in the week. OH God I have become like Kushi eternal Optimist😆
YOu know Sush, this is not it. We will get to see ARHI grand marriage after she leaves him at the end of the term that is 6 months and he needs to as Doodle puts it go on his knees infront of Devi Miayya & Kushi to get her back. He needs to repent for all he did to Kushi from the beginning. And then when they real really get married for themselves for thier love Not as Sacrifice or for sisters welfare.
Again we can spend 1 month on these festives😊 with guest appearances from other stars and TRP rising people dancing
ASR in Lucknowi Sherwani😳 and his Princess
Kushi in Red Beautiful Bridal wear jissay dekh kar ASR kay hosh udjaying😆😉
I dream a lot, total nut case
Seriously, Sush we will get a grand wedding for our ARHI in the future don't know the time and date.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Sush, and terrific comments ladies! The writers did a nice job with keeping the pace tight and Barun and Sanaya kept us engaged in their story line. I liked that the writers let us in on the conversation between ArHi that sealed the deal.

I agree with many of you that the writers let us down today with the regressive plot developments. What is it about the character of Khushi that makes her the ideal punching bag in the eyes of the writers esp when the object of that violence is the fragile looking and ethereally beautiful Sanaya? sbk2, I could not agree with you more about the totally uncalled for violence, first Arnav literally twists her arm causing pain and Garima delivers a thunderous slap. Did we really need those contrivances to show that Arnav loves Khushi? ---- really?!? I have to get this off my chest :physical violence is NOT COOL - whether it's parent-child (give your adult child a time-out if necessary 😆) or lovers or spouses. ENOUGH ALREADY with the physical abuse of Khushi, NO MORE. It is absolutely not justified. I saw some posts on the forum lauding Garima for being a "real mom" by taking Khushi to task - my stomach turned over! 😭

Sari, great point girl on the the contract marriage being in spirit the same as a live-in relationship. From Khushi's PoV both are egregiously wrong and neither really affords her any protection or dignity.

Also, ALL of the Guptas and the Raizadas were shocked and condemning of ArHi! Not one among them had the trust or the compassion to say to the two people who bear the weight of the world on their shoulders for their families --- "I know you wouldn't have made this move if you didn't think you had just cause. I trust you implicitly but for the love of Devi Maiyya help me understand your decision! Maybe Nani wanted to play the heavy as the family elder, but surely Anjali could have said this. Maybe Garima wanted to be the disciplinarian mom, but buaji could've said this (or vice versa). Come on, writers there are more elegant ways to execute that scene. Today the writers simply insulted the intelligence of the audience!

O well, I hope for better on Monday! At least I can focus on enjoying my weekend. I'm not at the edge of my seat this time around!!! More than anything I want to know what Shyam's next move is 😛

ETA: The song in my head for this epi was for Arnav. Love or confusion by Jimi Hendrix
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Posted: 13 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: --Sari--



Sush - Somebody had a funny post today exactly along these lines. So what if she was slapped; did you see how angry ASR was at Garima😆😆😆 Garima's slap was completely trivialized😆


Wow...Sush my comment has been majorly misconstrued here...what I meant about Arnav's reaction in todays episode was...I felt it was highly inconsistent towards kushi...he was supposed to be fuming after finding out that she is cheating on him...he still believes that she is with Shyam in breaking his Sisters marriage..isnt it too quick to see him go soft on kushi...I am a bit puzzled there.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Radhe1085


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Sush, may be they will show us flash back of Marriage rituals too. Kushi thinking how it all happened kind of later in the week. OH God I have become like Kushi eternal Optimist😆
<font face="Courier New">YOu know Sush, this is not it. We will get to see ARHI grand marriage after she leaves him at the end of the term that is 6 months and he needs to as Doodle puts it go on his knees infront of Devi Miayya & Kushi to get her back. He needs to repent for all he did to Kushi from the beginning. And then when they real really get married for themselves for thier love Not as Sacrifice or for sisters welfare.</font>

<font face="Courier New">Again we can spend 1 month on these festives😊with guest appearances from other stars and TRP rising people dancing</font>
<font face="Courier New">ASR in Lucknowi Sherwani😳and his Princess </font>
<font face="Courier New">Kushi in Red Beautiful Bridal wear jissay dekh kar ASR kay hosh udjaying😆😉</font>
<font face="Courier New">I dream a lot, total nut case</font>
<font face="Courier New">Seriously, Sush we will get a grand
wedding for our ARHI in the future don't know the time and date.</font>




Rahe dear that would be like celebrating the birth of a baby after he /she is 6 months old...No...I WANT A PROPER WEDDING NOW!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: Zuzana



Wow...Sush my comment has been majorly misconstrued here...what I meant about Arnav's reaction in todays episode was...I felt it was highly inconsistent towards kushi...he was supposed to be fuming after finding out that she is cheating on him...he still believes that she is with
Shyam in breaking his Sisters marriage..isnt it too quick to see him go soft on kushi...I am a bit puzzled there.






Sorry for making ligh of it Zuzi...I know what you meant...yes, the hate is already not as strong today as it was yesterday...although, the whole act of forcing her to accept a 6 month marriage is egregious enough...plus there was physical agression too...Arnie s not scorng too many points so far Zuzi...Does he have a reason? Yes...but is he being logical, fair or sensitive? No...
Edited by MsUniverse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse

Phew...It is not a Fake marriage...
I am relieved...I would have been really mad ifthey showed Arnie proposing a "live in" relationship to Khushi...I would have been more than mad...Furious...But any...way, don't need to worry about that...
I think by stating a definite term, it's as good as fake marriage... it's not a live-in, that would have outraged Indian sensibilities. So the next best thing that the CVs could show was this, IMO.

Now...the episode today...how melodramatic was that? And Garima's thappad...wel...what can I say, I realize why I don't watch soaps...where women are exploiting other women...and are their worst enemies...This could have been an episode from any of the other stereotypical...soaps...with high amount of drama playing in front of all the family members and hundreads of guest...I thought IPKKND was different...Well it really was, until now...This is the first time such a pathetic drama has taken place in public

Dramatic yes, slow moving very so, but I don't know if I could call it melodramatic. Melodramatic would've been Babuji getting another heart attack, Anjali fainting... Nani and Buaji beating their bosoms, Mamiji getting more hello hi bye, bye dialogues...

I think Garima's reaction was in line with what any traditional Indian mother who cares about society would do. If you go back to the earlier episodes as well, Garima is shown to be someone who gets affected when people around talk about Payal's broken marriage and Khushi's encounter with ASR when its splashed across channels.

Think about your daughter walking out in the middle of her sister's wedding, one where there already has been tension, to marry her sister's BIL. Your first reaction would be disbelief, shock "Kya?" The next, "Kyon?!" (Anjali asks this) and maybe "Kya majboori thi?" (natural to wonder this) Buaji says "Why did you take such a step?" and then when you don't get an answer, you'd either bang your head in frustration or slap her...

Also I noticed that the guests had left by then, it was just family that was present for these rituals. If it was another Sp type show, this would've happened in front of 100s of guests.

...but unlike Arnie...I am going to give the benefit of the doubt to the presumed guilty party here...I am going to give them (CVs) a chance to come back o their regular behavior and I am going to trust my judgement in the first place of why I fell in love with IPKKNDin the first place...and have been watching it day in and day out..(And I hate to say it folks...but if our Arnie boy was as mature as me...he would not be the hero of a soap...he he...).😉
Ok...lets come back to the episode...they showed us more of what transpired between Arhi...what was said and what wasn't ...They showed another convenient error the had Khushi made...just to sit their purpose of going with their story...When Arnie said...Marry me for 6months...I would have expected Khushi to say...for 6 months? in response...not Marry you...? in response...They just played on the words to slip in more confusion...

I agree - she could've asked - "chhe mehne hi kyon?" she could've called his bluff "agar aap yeh shaadi rokte hain, to Aakash ji ka kya hoga?" This was after all the same guy who put his differences aside to bring the two lovers together...

I'll try and explain the warped logic here 😉 - when a girl like KKG who believes in the ideals of marriage is made an outrageous offer like this, she's going to be stunned and that too, when it comes across as blackmail. So uske hosh udd gaye the!! 😆

Oh...welll...whatever...tight script has never been a forte when it comes to IPKKND or any other daly soaps...and the brilliant people on this forum think that it is a Khushi issue...why she did not behave in a certain way...😆😆😆
Agree. Same goes for Arnav's characterisation... when she breaks away from his hold (by the poolside) she asks him "Kya samajhte hain aap shaadi ke rishte ko?"

The quick-on-the-uptake Arnav would've immediately caught on, "Tum kya samajhti ho?" or "Really that coming from someone like you?"
But what was more than a blunder to suit the story was...Arnies condition to have the marriage for 6 months...Is this man really this clueless? Babies need more than 6 months to get ready to come out...and it does not take 3 months for a woman to figure out that ...

That's my beef with the CVs too... why 6 months? And if it's just to protect Anjali wouldn't 8 - 9 months or maybe even a year be better?
There was not much to like in todays episode...but one hing I did like was that they gave ius a glimpse of Arnies frame of mind in arriving atthis point as well as Khushi's...

Yes. They showed her question him even if it was dumb one... she put up her fight. I also liked that the scene where he holds her was so like the second episode when he confronts her after the fashion show... and the circumstances were similar (Payal ki shaadi)
It was an emotional reaction, and a knee jerk one too...tit for tat...
You are destroying my sisters life...I will destroy your sisters...unless you cooperate in my plan which is not much ...but it is the best I could come up with right now...and hell it suits the IPKKND story...so lets just go with it...
Yeah, expected better from the tycoon ASR... but I think an emotionally wraught Arnav did the planning in this case. I felt he would handle the questions better and silence the families... and when he didn't I thought he might be doing it so Khushi could face the wrath (after all his family is scared of him, and her's definitely won't bug him)

But your explanation makes more sense... he just thought about Di and what needed to be done. He didn't anticipate the reactions...

I wish they'd shown this slightly differently.. but then if he had answered them and shut them up... Garima would not have had a chance to slap Khushi and we wouldn't have had the fortune of seeing seething ASR/ Arnav giving his new MIL murderous looks!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse




Rahe dear that would be like celebrating the birth of a baby after he /she is 6 months old...No...I WANT A PROPER WEDDING NOW!!!

Tu bhi na Sush peeche hi padi hai😆 Dulha aur Dulhannn mood mein nahi hai and you are asking for proper wedding.
Actually I thought they will be showing the ritual today and in the last clip ARHI will be entering but BAM!!! firs clip mein hi tapak gaya dono😆
I do hope they do some kind of Rasam for the newly weds and ASR bituwa has to do along with Kushi atleast to show Snake.
And I am hoping that they will give us flashbacks of the actual wedding, am i being too optimistic??
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sush I think Radhe is right the most we may get is Khushi remembering in flashbacks her marriage to Arnav.

I'm actually looking forward to next week, I am hoping there are more promising twists in store for viewers and that this is not the end. Let the tables be turned next week where Khushi is the one questioning Arnav and torturing him until he gives her an explaination. Let her to take a page out of his book and make an ASR type move to get him to talk, that would be interesting to watch.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sbk2

Hi Sush..


I am mighty relieved that it is not a live in.

But Garima slapping Khushi?! In front of that crowd and her in-laws?! And knowing how Khushi's nature is?!
I was stunned and disgusted at that scene and was wondering why Arnav stood there silently while Khushi was being berated and interrogated like that.
Also, Arnie's expressions and tears in his eyes kind of stymied me...he stood there like he had commited blasphemy...where was his ASR attitude? While the family's shock and anger is justified, Nani and Anji's overdramatic interrogation seemed jarring to me, as if Arnie had picked up some random woman from the bar and got married to her! That had me worried..how are Nani and the rest of the clan going to treat Khushi?!

I can only hope on Monday ASR recomposes himself and steps in to save Khushi from further public questioning...if her family needs answers, take her aside and ask her in private...
And I realize I may be in the minority here...since I read a lot of posts saying that the family's reaction was perfect and as expected...with which I respectfully disagree.


Another thing... Arnav twisting her arm painfully to get her to agree was another shocker for me...

I agree with what all you have to say with a bit of modification😛... Garima's slap was somehow justified...the Gupta's are already aware of the fact that they are not of equal status with the Raizada's, so KKG appearing, after being sought, married to the head of the family is a shocker and perhaps at the same time subconsciously making the Gupta's realize that the Raizada's might end up thinking the whole family an opportunist and gold diggers. Plus we cannot forget where Garima's true sincerity lies...! oh she loves KKG alot but compared to Payal's khushi, KKG shall always be a back seater in Garima's heart. Ok ok ...lets forget that KKG is adopted...you just dont go around creating situations on a wedding of your elder sister where her new life might just turn into hell because the extra toppings of mami ji's sarcasm and the very fresh reminder and drama of Payal's broken marriage constantly haunts them. and then VOILA KKG married so scandalously to ASR? hell I would have a nervous breakdown thinking what the what the😆

Second ASR didnt come to KKG's rescue...because THAT IS WHAT HE WANTS. he has been hurt deeply..he WITNESSED(poor thing) the awful disgusting hug...think of our reactions over the weekend and we are just the audience...😃 ASR is IN LOVE and LOVES KKG...he must have been shattered, angry, helpless oh gosh and so many other things all at the same time...how the hell can he manage that. i think for a while ASR has gone CUCKOO😳. and he shall do his level best to make KKG suffer...because like someone earlier said...it is a TIT FOR TAT for ASR and if he suffers then KKG is naturally going to suffer with him...
KKG held her own..she was awesome in saying so repeated but i think she was also justified in saying yes when she realized how it would be for Payal if THIS marriage broke...and since she couldn't help her the first time I felt KKG feels that this time it is in her hands and she WILL do something about it...
Twisting the arm scene...well i was...infact i am constantly impressed by the IPK team...the writers make the connections so often and remind us that there is a PATTERN, that the couple follows...maybe that has sth to do with KKG's davi mayya...😛 but they bring us round full circle. the second epi where ASR twists KKG arm and then breaks her pearl strings led to Payal's broken marriage...this time it was a different ending...this time both of them got Payal married...same fashion, same positions only different location.
well that is all I have to say...😃 sorry for such a looong reply post...realized only now that I quoted you with the reply.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MsUniverse






Sorry for making ligh of it Zuzi...I know what you meant...yes, the hate is already not as strong today as it was yesterday...although, the whole act of forcing her to accept a 6 month marriage is egregious enough...plus there was physical agression too...Arnie s not scorng too many points so far Zuzi...Does he have a reason? Yes...but is he being logical, fair or sensitive? No...


Sush I have stopped to look for logics in these shows...what he did was completely illogical atleast when she mentioned "shaadi mazak hai kya"I thought bells may ring..but NO...unfair in not attempting to talk to her...if they had talked out where would be the story going...
and he needs to score bad points Sush..he still has lot of arrogance in him which needs to come crumbling down..he needs to get deserving of kushi...the process of getting humble is always difficult...he is getting into this vicious circle of making mistakes after mistake ..here only sad part being kushi is unnecessarily facing the brunt for no fault of hers...even if she forgives him ...will he be able to forgive himself for causing such hurt and pain to her??

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