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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Screwtape.

But the fact that she has to be so complex for regular folks to understand is the biggest issue. I honestly can't relate with her. 😆


Hi Luv,

Now i am at peace , as i understand Chandini better, thanks to some amazing people on this forum

What i have learnt , is that , there is no need to relate to her, coz most of us cannot , its simply not possible, But nevertheless we can Sympathise with her and try and understand where she is coming from
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There are some people who resort to suicide lets say for example, Can i relate to such a person, Absolutely not , I always believed to be a cowardly act to go down that route,

But one of my lecturers at Uni, whom we all really loved and respected, Once told us that life had pushed him to a point where he got to the railway tracks waiting for the next train to hit him.

But something snapped, and he turned back. I cud have never imagined this " Sir " of ours to have had suicidal tendencies ever coz he was just such a happy sweet person. But for the first time he opened my eyes, to a parallel reality.
Could i empathise with him , absolutely not , BUT yes i did sympathise with him and cud appreciate that life had pushed him to consider suicide as the only alternative.
Hope this example helps you better understand chandini, like how I am able to now, thanks to the posts on this thread

Cheer,s Chitra
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: ToxicLove



Thank you for the kind words Yaar. I just couldnt hold myself back today! Was quiet upset all day reading some useless thread. Made me cringe and nearly bit my tongue to hold myself back! Just hope people could become a little more compassionate and believe in the existence of less fortunate lives.



I hope its not one of my posts that have made you cringe, If so i am really sorry darling , I was only referring to Chandini as a character instead of as a person. 🤗
Trust me love, everyone has a story, I do too , may not be same as yours, but each one' s story is different.
We look at others lives and think that it is perfect, but turns out everyone seems to have a story.
I remember once i got into an argument with a friend of mine at work over the British Royal family , she thought they were privileged, i thought otherwise, COZ the so called Crown prince
Couldn't marry the woman he loved ( Camilla ) and had to marry Diana whom he never loved,
The princess of wales Diana never got any love from the Man she loved the most ( charles, coz his heart belonged to Camilla) and the worst bit is
future hier to the throne William and Harry were just 15 and 12 when they lost their mother .
Would i want a to trade my life with theirs , absolutely not,
so even tho it seems all glittery from the outside, everyone has struggles, trials and tribulations,
Hence why i try to focus on all the things i have instead of the things i dont have !!

Cheers, Chitra

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deeps_92

Beautifully explained Sush! Sushpective always helped to understand chandu...prob is most of FL character are created targeting last generation that it is difficult for us to understand them..
@bold ...so true
I agree chandu is kind of mahan character who puts others before her...but sati savitri? hell no because this girl is going to chose her mom over her husband after marriage


Hi Deeps and Sush ,

Sorry , my mistake .
I mis quoted the sati savitri word. I was writing this post quite late at night, and in a frustrated state of mind
By wanted to say , Maaa Bhakt mahaan FL , but somehow it came out as Sati Savitri,
yes i agree Chandu is def not a Sati Savitri , at least not till now , tho lets see what the CV's plan to do to her post marriage 😕

Cheers, Chitra
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Posted: 8 years ago
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ToxicLove ( Deepa ) I am so inspired by your story
I just want to hug you and salute you for your tenacity and courage
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Candy and Juhi I agree with you both
Now I am understanding Chandni better from the posts
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Posted: 8 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: _Chaverah_

Disclaimer: long ass comment. Prepare yourselves!


Okay, so before I comment, let me be clear that, I am one of those people who can not connect with Chandni.

But...

But I do understand her. Atleast a good portion of her (untill d CVS decide to butcher her characterization n add a total tangent shade again)


What I assumed of Chandni from d initial episodes is...she's like that swan amongst a murder.

Pure, brave, head-heart in right places - warrior in every sense.

She was a perfect blend of wisdom n naivety, maturity n innocence, vulnerabilities n strength, pain n fun. N I really really loved her for that.

She, IMO, was one hell of a strong character. A one that is really inspiring sorts. N pretty close to reality.


But then either CVS began to add layers to her, or d trps r forced them to do so, and we had shades of Gray induced n introduced.

N trust me, that was d best time I had understanding this character - Chandni.

Coz..no person is entirely white it black. We're all in d shades of Gray.

N so was Chandni.


Though it took me by surprise, her sass, her lies, her fake videos..though they contradict d previous weeks, they showed how Chandni any other girl, who would not hesitate to do stuff that would protect her family.

And why not? What has Advay been to her?

Downright s Challenger who owed to destroy her. N she has had no reason to believe that he too might b a good person behind n beneath all his manipulative stuff. N I really appreciate that.

Coz hey, if a man comes n owes to destroy my family n me, I wouldn't give him a benefit of doubt that may be he's good n I can talk him out. Hell no. I'll try my best to get rid of him, or get us out of his path.


It was d nails thing that completely threw me off my feet. I lost whatever understanding I had of her till then. Or rather. my understanding came to a stand still with way too stark contradiction of staring wide eyed at me.

Irrespective of whether she thought he'd not walk ahead or not, planting nails on d path that physically hurt some one...was too much for me. N honestly I can't understand that bit even to this day. (so, I guess I choose to ignore it)


And from then on, it was On-Off, almost like whiplashes with every episode. The CVS just loved, love to experiment with Chandni's character to a point of butchering it that, now I don't find any solid pillar of her characterization that I can lean upon n understand d rest of her based on this pillar.


But that being said, I guess in all this hullabaloo mess they made of her, there are a few things I understood of her. May b that's coz I'm trying hard to figure her out, or may b coz she's really there but I've been dumb n blind all this long (still am?)


  1. Chandini is a broken soul herself. : Okay I am willing to give her that. She has had a lot to deal with with her dad, mum ,stepmum , Dev and above all with Meghu recently while having to deal with her own kidnapping trauma and PTSD.

Broken soul but a really brave n dare I add, stubborn fighter. The initial characterization of Chandni was really astounding. At least for me. Coz despite all d crap she's in, she manages to stand back, walk with a smile, take n face life with a pinch of zest that's hers innately.
I really loved her characterization in d initial episodes, where she was mix of vulnerability n undeniable strength.
  1. Chandini loves Aday : No I dont think she loves him , tho she is attracted towards him and is confused why. She is clearly torn between her love for Dev and her attraction for Advay, Dont blame her coz Advay is way ttooo hottt to handle😳 !! HEHE😉

Agree with this. She ain't in no love with Advay but she's attracted. Hell,did u see that guy n d moves he makes n d words he uses? There'd b something really wrong if one's not attracted to him n his charms.

But, I don't really think she's torn between her love for Dev n attraction for Advay. That part hasn't begun yet.
She loves Dev, period.
She's attracted (or getting) to Advay, but not to a point that she's disturbed or torn or pushed to a introspection alley or something. Not yet.

  1. Chandini trusts Advay (not)

Again, I agree. She doesn't trust him. Not to a point that it can be labelled as 'trust'.

  1. Also I read somewhere that Advay only speaks the truth to chandini, I disagree on that too, coz Advay hasn't first of all told his reality to her. ( AKA abt DEV ) , also Advay always puts Chandini in trouble with her family,

Now, who d hell said Advay doesn't effing lie? That guy is a goddamn pro at it. He's a manipulative ass for crying out loud. A kameena n a battameez ladka. Of course he lies. Blatantly that too.

But...he doesn't lie to Chandni.

Yes, omission of truth is lie. I agree with just that one bit.
But apart that, naw, this guy loves to b upfront, honest n reveal his Motto, mission n plans to his lady.
He promised he'd destroy her family. Its pride n bring afore d reality.
He promised he'd Marry get.
He promised she's his be that in anyway that she is.
N awww, he Even promised that he's hers!
He dint promise her of anything he doesn't mean. Nor lied about anything he was gonna do.

So yeah, Advay never lies to Chandni. But this honest (or rather psycho) streak of him is reserved only n only to Chandni!

  1. Chandini decided to give the baby away and did Meghu a favor :

Okay, this...I have mixed views.
I am an elder sister n there are times I have taken decisions for my brother. At times, decisions that prolly he should've had d first right upon.
But then, I did n do believe that I've taken them, not coz I think he's incapable of facing d otherwise, but because I know what's d better thing for him (I sound so much like a soap opera Momma here). So I kinda relate to her, taking up decisions for her sister. In her best interest.

But again, a baby's adoption is a huge decision.
N I would've loved it had CVS concentrated on highlighting Chandni taking this step in order to protect her sister n not her mother's pride.

But that being said, I don't really understand d intensity of d whiplash about this topic, coz we don't entirely know d story of d baby adoption. What if Meghna did not want d baby even before she delivered n hence Chandni did not reveal that her baby is alive?
Yes, irrespective, d mother must b aware. But again, we don't know d entire story. So, I'm not gonna jump to anything as of now.
I do hope that Chandni has a reason, a valid one and a bloody strong one to convince me that she did whatever she did for the baby and its Mother.


Again, I'm on mixed views with d Mahaan-Aatma track introduced to chandni's character.(apologies, I don't really understand what sati-savitri means, or rather why she's brought here. Isn't sati-savitri someone who is uber loyal to her hubby? Apologies again . Its my ignorance, not my intention to offend or something)


While I could NOT connect initially, over a detailed musing n discussion with Uthra Akka, I've realised ki...I kinda understand her? Or may be from where she's coming?


See, *Touchwood* I'm from an extremely happy family. Just d 4 of us. Details left uncovered, I haven't grown up amongst relatives whom one can rely upon. Even to this day. So, even though I have an extremely huge family that could make up a mini town or something, when I say family, I mean just d 4 of us.

But when I was a kid, I was thrilled with d idea of having relatives visit us. Looking back, despite d love I had from my parents, I think I wanted their love, appreciation n acceptance too. But then I grew up. Saw a few things, learnt a few things n I realised that..I don't want anything more than I already have.


So, if I were to think of Chandni that way, I understand her need n will to impress her mom, to get her acceptance n love, b that at any cost.

But the problem is, I can connect that with a kiddo Chandni not d grown up one.

So yeah, there are times I understand her n there are times I just facepalm myself.


But then I realised...Chandni knows her mom doesn't really love Her.

But that's that. She doesn't know that her mom has an evil side to her.

And then it again began to make sense, well, with a face-palm here n there. But sensible, nevertheless at least to an extent.

So, once d real or rather dark shade of her mom comes out, this 'my Pyaar will make her majboor to pyaar me back' is gonna break! (I hope so)

So yes, I do understand this bit of her now.


Advay does bring out d real self of her. Be that d best or d worst; he challenges her, makes her face her fears n win them, even if indirectly n unintentionally.

N I believe that women have his innate intuition about people. Gut feeling? That's what makes or rather pushes Chandni stand back against advay. N be her innate, real self around him.

Coz deep down, she knows he's many a things that she's both privy n not privy to, but not a perv or a sleazebag.


See, Chandni as a wholesome character is difficult to understand n analyse n connect to, atleast for me. But when taken bits n pieces of her, she's actually a regular normal girl.

A girl with a shade n two of gray. A girl who has been through hell n is still standing up with a smile.

She intact is an extremely strong character with heck loads of potential.


Now, if d CVS would brew her character in d proper channel;

Chandni Yash Narayan vashist will b one really admirable character.


That's what I understood of Chandni so far. It's all half baked but hey, I'm trying!



~~~~~edited


@Deepthi Akka, there's a reason I not just admire you, but also respect you. And...lets just say that my respect has multiplied and cemented stronger than before.


Hi Candy my love, So good to hear from you too !!!


Trust me I always look forward to your long ass comments HAHA !!!


Yes i totally see Chandini in new light now.

You are right, she only perceives her mum to be someone who dislikes her, but not actually as someone who is murderous or evil. Will be interesting to see how chandu will react when the masks fall off


Also yes you do make a valid point that she is probably still not struggling between her love for Dev and her attraction towards Advay. Nevertheless she is struggling to come to terms with the fact that she is attracted to Advay when in reality she shud be smacking him across the face.


I too really liked her in the beginning, its only post baby track that the doubt seems to have crept in.

yeah i can totally understand when siblings decide for each other , tho this was taking it a bit too far wrt the baby. Nevertheless as you mention, we need to wait to see the backstory to this decision, I guess i am willing to give her a benefit of doubt there,


I have it is common for family members to meddle into each others affairs especially in an Indian society, tho i dont necessarily agree with that, but nevertheless I can see where Chandini is coming from. But the point remains that Meghu is not going to see this in a positive light for sure HAH !! and i wont blame her for that.

Cheers, Chitra





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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thanks for making this post Chitra
Reading all the replies made me see Chandni in a different light
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: ChitraGS


I hope its not one of my posts that have made you cringe, If so i am really sorry darling , I was only referring to Chandini as a character instead of as a person. 🤗
Trust me love, everyone has a story, I do too , may not be same as yours, but each one' s story is different.
We look at others lives and think that it is perfect, but turns out everyone seems to have a story.
I remember once i got into an argument with a friend of mine at work over the British Royal family , she thought they were privileged, i thought otherwise, COZ the so called Crown prince
Couldn't marry the woman he loved ( Camilla ) and had to marry Diana whom he never loved,
The princess of wales Diana never got any love from the Man she loved the most ( charles, coz his heart belonged to Camilla) and the worst bit is
future hier to the throne William and Harry were just 15 and 12 when they lost their mother .
Would i want a to trade my life with theirs , absolutely not,
so even tho it seems all glittery from the outside, everyone has struggles, trials and tribulations,
Hence why i try to focus on all the things i have instead of the things i dont have !!

Cheers, Chitra



Chitra, first of all a huge respect (and a hug and a kiss 😆) for you, for being so open minded and for willing to put your thoughts aside and sincerely trying to understand everyone's perspective.


Coming to your posts, I never found your threads/posts or opinions as biased, condescending, or written simply to instigate negativity. I always look forward to your posts because I simply love the way you break down each scene/character and lay them out through magnified glass.

Love, Deeps (if there are too many Deeps in the forum😆 you can call me Deepthi) 🤗
Edited by ToxicLove - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ToxicLove



Thank you for the kind words Yaar. I just couldnt hold myself back today! Was quiet upset all day reading some useless thread. Made me cringe and nearly bit my tongue to hold myself back! Just hope people could become a little more compassionate and believe in the existence of less fortunate lives.


Deepthi I understand where you come from. I understand that tough life do exists even in this modern world that is why people go into their sapno ki duniya so that they can face their harsh realities of life.

What you said about you and your journey I am not going to compare that with this goddamn character of Chandni yet I will just say one thing and that is one needs to connect. Your story just in a paragraph most of the readers could connect whereas Chandni's character despite being 38 episodes is hard to connect with. She can face all the issues of the world but what she can not be is a cry baby.
She is strong enough to take decisions so its better she stops crying and then that will make her connect to audience at a level.

Will you be able to inflict physical pain to anyone? She is a good soul on one day, kind hearted and all and one fine day she decides to throw nails? (Yeh baat kuch hazam nahi hui)

With help of her sisters she can make a video but can not tell others about all those fake identities of ASR? Did she ever say that to anyone?

Well she wants to be the sacrificial goat for her mother although she is repulsive to his touch and yet i am ok with that as that falls under the duty to save family.

Where is that strong woman who survived PTSD and yet is crying buckets when ASR is around? That promise that she gave to ASR: was it a promise or plead or some joke?

As a character Chandni has a lot of potential just like Advay and Indrani and so does the show. Its upto the writers and directors to explore it and present it.

I can understand that things happens. Schedule gets deflated due to circumstances. Plan changes due to the strikes, rain etc etc... What i can not handle is inconsistency that the character has. Its not Chandni that is difficult its the CVs that are undecided. They don't know what their brain child has to be. To me that is frustrating and hence its not connecting.

Uff - Like ASR you are the only one who can instigate so much reaction out of me😆 and that too on fictional character

Edited by -Bhavi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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totally agreed with Sush, Psharada, Toxiclove(Deepa)👏
Thanks Chitra for making this post.🤗
Much needed ...

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