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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: PSharada


Deeps - I am so so proud of you. I totally understand what you are saying. Our circumstances do shape us to the people we are. But I am proud of you girl for making the best of your life and moving forward. I wish you all the best in your life and hope you always have happiness in your personal and professional life.


Ditto Deeps you are a rockstar and the real hero. No wonder your female leads are all heroes 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Bhavi


Ditto Deeps you are a rockstar and the real hero. No wonder your female leads are all heroes 👏



Thank you for the kind words Yaar. I just couldnt hold myself back today! Was quiet upset all day reading some useless thread. Made me cringe and nearly bit my tongue to hold myself back! Just hope people could become a little more compassionate and believe in the existence of less fortunate lives.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


For me...it is very simple...
Chandani is a good soul...who has been manipulated by Indrani as a child...she has innocently said things that have helped Indranis wicked plans to destroy Devs family...
CHandani trusted Dev...and is still hopeful that he will show up to save her...
She feels very indebted to her step mother for providing her a family, and protecting her...
She feels she has to do whatever she can to pay back to the family who has been so good to her...

The kidnapping has traumatized her...but she has kept her fighting spirit...
I don't see her as a broken soul...A broken soul is not full of care for others...Chandani is like a gentle light that takes away darkness...soothing to everyone...meaning no harm...
She is unsure why Advay says the things he says about her...as far as she knows...he doesn't even know her...so she brushes off what she can't explain...
She knows the thought of PP touching her makes her cringe...
She knows...somehow that's not the case with Advay...she feels physically attracted to him...
Although she brushes that aside...she is too traditional ...She does know that Advay does not like her family...and is not only holding grudges against them...he is deliberatily trying to show them down...
She doesn't like that...
She protects her family in every way she can...Protecting Megha from being social outcast for being an unwed mother was also a part of that...She wasn't thinking what is right ...what is wrong...she wanted to protect Meghna and Indrani ...and she thought that she could do that only by giving up the baby and not telling Meghna ..and that was that.

THere you have it...Chandani in a nutshell...what I didn't understand is why so many people on IF have such a tough time figuring Chandani ...I have made a mental note to ask my mom in India ...what she thinks about. Chandani...provided she is still watching IPK...😃

Oh...BTW...I do not understand the Sati Savitri comment...How can Chandani be Sati Savitri if there is no Satyavan in the picture? On the contrary...she is one of the very few FL who is actually displaying physical attraction to a guy ...who is not the "good boy" by any books...😆

Beautifully explained Sush! Sushpective always helped to understand chandu...prob is most of FL character are created targeting last generation that it is difficult for us to understand them..
@bold ...so true
I agree chandu is kind of mahan character who puts others before her...but sati savitri? hell no because this girl is going to chose her mom over her husband after marriage

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ToxicLove

Oh I love this post. I am going to come back and see if I can try explaining Chandini, esp on giving the baby away...😳

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I am back to write my 2 cents on Chandini but before I get to her characterization...there is something I wanna share.


Coming from a broken/disoriented family, I grew up as a timid, shy, silent girl. At a very very very young age, I watched my mother break down, fight against the life she was forced into, fight against every single person who planned to get me and my sister married after we complete 10th grade. She became fierce, independent, didnt care who supported her and who didnt. I was so proud of her, still am!


I have to admit, I was never into studies but seeing her struggle so hard to get us to a position where we could stand on our own feet, made me zealous and accomplish something that she could be proud of. And that's where it all started, as a token of gratitude for not abandoning us, I began to do things that would please her, that would make her happy. Over the years, she took some decisions that I was not really thrilled about but I chose to stay silent because that's what made her content, and ultimately happy.


As I entered into pre-teen years, my maternal family who initially showed their backs to us, started showing up at our doors, visiting us for vacations. That's where I fell weak further. Before that moment, I and my sister spent several summers/ celebrated festivals without cousins or the extended family. Our life was pretty much limited to four walls because basically we had none. So when they came back to us whether to show love or fake love, I was thrilled, I craved for their attention, and wanted to do things that would make them stick to us, to love us longer. We would give away all our (hard-earned) toys to our cousins (without mom's knowledge) simply because they would come back to us next summer at least for the new toys, if not for us! Does this emotionally connect me to Chandini? Oh Hell Yes!


Now that pleasing thingy went on for years, until one day I decided to go against my mother. It was the time my family was looking for suitor for my little sister. A guy was chosen, my family (except me and my sister) met them, they all liked his family and the guy himself. Since I was living in another town, (happily married) were asked to fly down to meet the guy. I along with my husband flew down to the guy's town and 5 mins into the meeting I knew what would be the fate of my sister if she end up marrying that guy. I returned home and told my mom that that guy is not a fit. Now remember, I didnt even discuss this with my sister who is supposed to have a say. I didnt ask her because I simply knew she would be better off without that guy. Now you can question me who am I to decide on my sister's behalf? Fair enough, it's a very valid question! But but...


Because, I knew my mother, my family, and how my sister is, and the kind of struggles we went through the childhood, I took a decision in the best interest of her. And this is exactly what Chandini had done. She didnt think if she was taking right decision or wrong decision giving the baby away. As far she knew she took a decision in the best interest of Meghu, with no malign intent.

Tomorrow my sister can come back to me and question me why had I interfered in her life. Honestly I will not have a concrete answer but as an elder sister/well wisher I did what I thought was best for her. Same way, Chandini may not have an answer for Meghana but she did what she thought was best for her little sister.


That being said, if we still want to give it a logical approach then I have to point this out...Chandini knows how it feels like to live every single day without having a true motherly love. If a woman like her had taken such a drastic decision, then don't you think it suggests there could probably be something more to the story? Something more compromising might have happened with Vashisht family or at least with Meghana that forced Chandini to do this?


We still do not know what exactly happened to Meghu at that time. So it is too early and very unfair for everyone in the forum to judge her (and Meghu for being the way she is now) But whatever might have happened, when a person (not just Chandini but anyone around us) does something like that, instead of passing a logical judgement that she shouldn't have done it or he should have done it that way...It is very important to understand there must be a reason for them (Chandini) to react that way, to decide that way. And the only person who can decide if Chandini's decision is wrong or right in this case is strictly Meghana's but no one else!



I don't mean to offend anyone with my take, but I have been waiting patiently for so many days hoping people will understand and connect to Chandini. But as days pass by I am more and more baffled as to why no one is able to relate to her. Do we have to go through something so miserable like her to understand the way she is behaving? A question that we all need to question ourselves!


PS: Chitra, thank you for posting this question. I ended up writing a composition here😆...So rambled alot! 😆😆 But calling Chandini as AblaNari and Sati Savriti kinda rubbed me in a wrong way, made me abit emotional too...but No hard feelings, I understand every one has their perspective. I just want to put mine across.





Akka ...big hug to you🤗...u and ur mother r such a strong people...I already guessed it reading ur ff's...
coming from male dominated family and having strong mother, I can relate to most of it

I agree with u akka...i really feel we should not judge chandu or meghu until we know the full story...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Chandu is one hell of complex FL.
She has broken family...made of glasses..
Glass House which glows only with her light.

Simple tides and tribulations may break it into pieces.
She want to hold it together for her own sanity.

She is longing for true belongness, connected..
Searching for it in treacherous viper, step-mom...
Like Ma toh Ma hain. Like seriously..

Our past metaphors us..
It plays major role in constructing us,strong yet fragile.. or weak yet helpless...

Chandu is gold hearted soul with longing for unconditional love.

I wish Yash, should help in heal her...
But,no,he is in witch's trap..
Whole Vashisht is under witch's hat.. playing for her tunes.

She feel connected to whom she shouldn't...
She feel trusted with whom she must be averted.
She felt unusual happenings to her heart,mind & soul to this Ajeeb Rowdy Professor.

Hope Chandu finally built her home with rocky walls with this Tormented... Who gonna show her what really hell is & also paradise is..

She is just simple girl, wishing for simple love...
But Alas,her path is too thorny with witch's curses, underplayed acts...

Anyway,Her Devil give her Roses too...
But only with thorns...

Hope I helped somewhat, Chitra
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deeps_92


Akka ...big hug to you🤗...u and ur mother r such a strong people...I already guessed it reading ur ff's...
coming from male dominated family and having strong mother, I can relate to most of it

I agree with u akka...i really feel we should not judge chandu or meghu until we know the full story...


I agree Deeps...

Her story speaks of her confidence, determination & lovable soul.

Take a bow Deeps aka Toxiclove
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My pleasure 😊 .. Stay strong like this .. ❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Disclaimer: long ass comment. Prepare yourselves!


Okay, so before I comment, let me be clear that, I am one of those people who can not connect with Chandni.

But...

But I do understand her. Atleast a good portion of her (untill d CVS decide to butcher her characterization n add a total tangent shade again)


What I assumed of Chandni from d initial episodes is...she's like that swan amongst a murder.

Pure, brave, head-heart in right places - warrior in every sense.

She was a perfect blend of wisdom n naivety, maturity n innocence, vulnerabilities n strength, pain n fun. N I really really loved her for that.

She, IMO, was one hell of a strong character. A one that is really inspiring sorts. N pretty close to reality.


But then either CVS began to add layers to her, or d trps r forced them to do so, and we had shades of Gray induced n introduced.

N trust me, that was d best time I had understanding this character - Chandni.

Coz..no person is entirely white it black. We're all in d shades of Gray.

N so was Chandni.


Though it took me by surprise, her sass, her lies, her fake videos..though they contradict d previous weeks, they showed how Chandni any other girl, who would not hesitate to do stuff that would protect her family.

And why not? What has Advay been to her?

Downright s Challenger who owed to destroy her. N she has had no reason to believe that he too might b a good person behind n beneath all his manipulative stuff. N I really appreciate that.

Coz hey, if a man comes n owes to destroy my family n me, I wouldn't give him a benefit of doubt that may be he's good n I can talk him out. Hell no. I'll try my best to get rid of him, or get us out of his path.


It was d nails thing that completely threw me off my feet. I lost whatever understanding I had of her till then. Or rather. my understanding came to a stand still with way too stark contradiction of staring wide eyed at me.

Irrespective of whether she thought he'd not walk ahead or not, planting nails on d path that physically hurt some one...was too much for me. N honestly I can't understand that bit even to this day. (so, I guess I choose to ignore it)


And from then on, it was On-Off, almost like whiplashes with every episode. The CVS just loved, love to experiment with Chandni's character to a point of butchering it that, now I don't find any solid pillar of her characterization that I can lean upon n understand d rest of her based on this pillar.


But that being said, I guess in all this hullabaloo mess they made of her, there are a few things I understood of her. May b that's coz I'm trying hard to figure her out, or may b coz she's really there but I've been dumb n blind all this long (still am?)


  1. Chandini is a broken soul herself. : Okay I am willing to give her that. She has had a lot to deal with with her dad, mum ,stepmum , Dev and above all with Meghu recently while having to deal with her own kidnapping trauma and PTSD.

Broken soul but a really brave n dare I add, stubborn fighter. The initial characterization of Chandni was really astounding. At least for me. Coz despite all d crap she's in, she manages to stand back, walk with a smile, take n face life with a pinch of zest that's hers innately.
I really loved her characterization in d initial episodes, where she was mix of vulnerability n undeniable strength.
  1. Chandini loves Aday : No I dont think she loves him , tho she is attracted towards him and is confused why. She is clearly torn between her love for Dev and her attraction for Advay, Dont blame her coz Advay is way ttooo hottt to handle😳 !! HEHE😉

Agree with this. She ain't in no love with Advay but she's attracted. Hell,did u see that guy n d moves he makes n d words he uses? There'd b something really wrong if one's not attracted to him n his charms.

But, I don't really think she's torn between her love for Dev n attraction for Advay. That part hasn't begun yet.
She loves Dev, period.
She's attracted (or getting) to Advay, but not to a point that she's disturbed or torn or pushed to a introspection alley or something. Not yet.

  1. Chandini trusts Advay (not)

Again, I agree. She doesn't trust him. Not to a point that it can be labelled as 'trust'.

  1. Also I read somewhere that Advay only speaks the truth to chandini, I disagree on that too, coz Advay hasn't first of all told his reality to her. ( AKA abt DEV ) , also Advay always puts Chandini in trouble with her family,

Now, who d hell said Advay doesn't effing lie? That guy is a goddamn pro at it. He's a manipulative ass for crying out loud. A kameena n a battameez ladka. Of course he lies. Blatantly that too.

But...he doesn't lie to Chandni.

Yes, omission of truth is lie. I agree with just that one bit.
But apart that, naw, this guy loves to b upfront, honest n reveal his Motto, mission n plans to his lady.
He promised he'd destroy her family. Its pride n bring afore d reality.
He promised he'd Marry get.
He promised she's his be that in anyway that she is.
N awww, he Even promised that he's hers!
He dint promise her of anything he doesn't mean. Nor lied about anything he was gonna do.

So yeah, Advay never lies to Chandni. But this honest (or rather psycho) streak of him is reserved only n only to Chandni!

  1. Chandini decided to give the baby away and did Meghu a favor :

Okay, this...I have mixed views.
I am an elder sister n there are times I have taken decisions for my brother. At times, decisions that prolly he should've had d first right upon.
But then, I did n do believe that I've taken them, not coz I think he's incapable of facing d otherwise, but because I know what's d better thing for him (I sound so much like a soap opera Momma here). So I kinda relate to her, taking up decisions for her sister. In her best interest.

But again, a baby's adoption is a huge decision.
N I would've loved it had CVS concentrated on highlighting Chandni taking this step in order to protect her sister n not her mother's pride.

But that being said, I don't really understand d intensity of d whiplash about this topic, coz we don't entirely know d story of d baby adoption. What if Meghna did not want d baby even before she delivered n hence Chandni did not reveal that her baby is alive?
Yes, irrespective, d mother must b aware. But again, we don't know d entire story. So, I'm not gonna jump to anything as of now.
I do hope that Chandni has a reason, a valid one and a bloody strong one to convince me that she did whatever she did for the baby and its Mother.


Again, I'm on mixed views with d Mahaan-Aatma track introduced to chandni's character.(apologies, I don't really understand what sati-savitri means, or rather why she's brought here. Isn't sati-savitri someone who is uber loyal to her hubby? Apologies again . Its my ignorance, not my intention to offend or something)


While I could NOT connect initially, over a detailed musing n discussion with Uthra Akka, I've realised ki...I kinda understand her? Or may be from where she's coming?


See, *Touchwood* I'm from an extremely happy family. Just d 4 of us. Details left uncovered, I haven't grown up amongst relatives whom one can rely upon. Even to this day. So, even though I have an extremely huge family that could make up a mini town or something, when I say family, I mean just d 4 of us.

But when I was a kid, I was thrilled with d idea of having relatives visit us. Looking back, despite d love I had from my parents, I think I wanted their love, appreciation n acceptance too. But then I grew up. Saw a few things, learnt a few things n I realised that..I don't want anything more than I already have.


So, if I were to think of Chandni that way, I understand her need n will to impress her mom, to get her acceptance n love, b that at any cost.

But the problem is, I can connect that with a kiddo Chandni not d grown up one.

So yeah, there are times I understand her n there are times I just facepalm myself.


But then I realised...Chandni knows her mom doesn't really love Her.

But that's that. She doesn't know that her mom has an evil side to her.

And then it again began to make sense, well, with a face-palm here n there. But sensible, nevertheless at least to an extent.

So, once d real or rather dark shade of her mom comes out, this 'my Pyaar will make her majboor to pyaar me back' is gonna break! (I hope so)

So yes, I do understand this bit of her now.


Advay does bring out d real self of her. Be that d best or d worst; he challenges her, makes her face her fears n win them, even if indirectly n unintentionally.

N I believe that women have his innate intuition about people. Gut feeling? That's what makes or rather pushes Chandni stand back against advay. N be her innate, real self around him.

Coz deep down, she knows he's many a things that she's both privy n not privy to, but not a perv or a sleazebag.


See, Chandni as a wholesome character is difficult to understand n analyse n connect to, atleast for me. But when taken bits n pieces of her, she's actually a regular normal girl.

A girl with a shade n two of gray. A girl who has been through hell n is still standing up with a smile.

She intact is an extremely strong character with heck loads of potential.


Now, if d CVS would brew her character in d proper channel;

Chandni Yash Narayan vashist will b one really admirable character.


That's what I understood of Chandni so far. It's all half baked but hey, I'm trying!



~~~~~edited


@Deepthi Akka, there's a reason I not just admire you, but also respect you. And...lets just say that my respect has multiplied and cemented stronger than before.

Edited by _Chaverah_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Deeps yes we are as our circumstances shape us. Proud of you to come out so strong.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hiii Chitra!! 🤗I finally watched the episode and I found it total paisa vasool re.
Trust me I as so sceptical because I could never forgive...well that's not the right word I guess! Who am I to forgive anyway😆but I would never relate to her ever if she saw her mother breaking the bottle on advay's head and still had not reacted!!! But thankfully that was not the case!
I can't relate to her generally and there are still a lot of compliants I have with her characterisation but yesterday she was spot on. She was concerned when Advay fell unconscious. All she knew was the fact that Advay was drugged and he would be just fine some hours later . I am not saying that's fine but I am willing to look past the maa Bhakti because she knew it wasn't something lethal.The concern and care she showed despite what Advay is putting her through on a daily basis was endearing . So i am satisfied with her reactions for yesterday's episode!
Coming to meghna's case I think I would have sympathised with her (not relate to her at all)if she said she did it all for Meghna but no, she said it was to keep her mother's position intact in the society!
I told you when I think of the baby in the orphanage my blood boils! 😡
And I was actually surprised that some people in some posts are thinking that we cannot relate to chandni's character or are not being able to connect with her is because we are looking for a regular mahaan soap Bahuraani or beti! Hain!!! 😲Where is that coming from.
Meera is my most favourite character from the 4 lions department and she is a far cry from all the meddling preachy FLS we see in daily soaps. So I don't know where from that notion has come that we are confused about her because we are looking for adarshvaadi heroine!😕 I just don't feel you have the right to play with a child's life. It's as simple as that.
And as candy mentioned in her post putting nails on someone's path that still,is a sore point for me😕
Anyway I would not want to go deeper into that stufft but this blatant categorisation that we are looking for an obtruding know it all heroine and hence not being able to connect to Chandni is hurtful
I love your updates and would visit your posts and some other ones regularly. But other than that I don't think I am coming here very often!
I loved Shivani, Barun , Ritu in yesterday's episode so yeah
Love
Juhi😊
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