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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: deeps_92


@bold...I agree.. ..they need to explain things again an again to reach people
But again if they had showed chandu explaining it for five mins...
People would have said they felt bored and sleepy...they didn't sign up for this...pace is so slow...and what not


instead of making chandu say dialogue they could have made it show how the whole process is maybe through a video by advay to explain better. I think instead of crying over these things we should appreciate the team for using science and logic 👏, there are already hundred of people trying to create negativity around our show ,the least we can do is not go over board with criticism
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: petrichor.


Yes, I have heard about temple locks and reciting of certain mantras to open them, like you said their specific enunciation is like a password. So I really like the temple mystery plot they have.
I'm thankful that the show is going the logical way. They do seem to have put a lot of thought and research into this. But making it look convincing to the audience is an uphill task for the makers. Some stuff like cloud seeding, the general audience wouldn't understand it immediately but it definitely wasn't illogical because it does have a scientific explanation.

I think many people are used to simple direct stories and illogical stuff that when something logical comes up, it tends to throw them off.

Thank you for this post! 😊


@blue i completely agree. this temple mystery plot is interesting just presentation need to improve

@red i believe the problem is here. convincing the audience require a lot of time and scenes and good writing. its just lacking there.

@pink 😆😆🤣 i absolutely agree . people so much illogical stuff that they can't digest logic stuff. someone even said that if advay has prayed to Shivji to make rain and it rained they would have bought that but not the scientific technique of cloud seeding, i was like W*F . that shiv thing would have goner against advay's science teacher character and then people would have cried illogical, character butchering etc . they just cant be happy can they.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: petrichor.


Yes, I have heard about temple locks and reciting of certain mantras to open them, like you said their specific enunciation is like a password. So I really like the temple mystery plot they have.
I'm thankful that the show is going the logical way. They do seem to have put a lot of thought and research into this. But making it look convincing to the audience is an uphill task for the makers. Some stuff like cloud seeding, the general audience wouldn't understand it immediately but it definitely wasn't illogical because it does have a scientific explanation.

I think many people are used to simple direct stories and illogical stuff that when something logical comes up, it tends to throw them off.

Thank you for this post!😊


If you cannot explain it simply you don't understand well -Einstein
So if the explaination is not understood it only means the person explaining it does not know what they are trying to convey not that the listener is stupid 😆

No concept ever that cannot be explained to a 6th grader ... no concept ever that cannot be understood by a 6 th grader
Skill is in making it simple

PS did not watch the episode or the past few episodes ... but enjoy commenting on posts of especially the ones that say only intellectuals can understand the show :-)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1

Let me try and explain the passing posts that said the show lacks plot

The premise of the show is interesting ... old city, tradition , deception , etc ...the loss is supposed to be the base of the MLs character... till then agreed

What ever I watch in week one I could not see the plot moving anywhere in fact it was going everywhere...

One instance to begin with the entire anger is redirected towards a 8 year old ... it's shown as if ASR thinks she's the mastermind of this massive plot lol

I don't care if it's logically, they have to make me believe it's logical that's the way the character is
They failed in doing that ... instead of sounding interesting I found the character clueless

I, the hatred is understood they conveyed it well ... but assuming her to be responsible for a massive plot ... scheming at the age of 8 instead of seeming Inyeresting seemed very silly

If the plot was Using her a bait it should be shown ...it's missing ...all the dialogues are as if she cheated him ... when they say that it's diluting the plot ...too many dialogues all conveying different things

Coming to fantasy triller ... interesting again ... but this is not The way to execute it

Honestly I don't care whether ML is Barun or FL sananya or Shivani r ... the story n chancterization is interesting I watch it

I started off by watching The episodes on the same day but after 3 rd episode I lost interest ... because I could not understand where they are going with the plot ... n I am not going to watch the episode for leads chemistry or baruns dialogues
So gave the show a chance ... they couldn't retain my interest ...

If I feel the plot is building up I will be back to watching it again

pS had the lead been sananya n not Shivani ... my post would have been the same ...I don't think any actor has the power to override ridiculous writing n sustain interest ... probably the people arguing with me might be different

you are not really getting the point .advay is not blaming her for his parents death entirely he is blaming cause due to her the whole premise set up of his mother death started.and that anger is more cause she was only best friend of her one he use to share everything and seems like chandu was close to his mother too.that angers towards chandni is for that . We cant once forget if anyone said bad about our parents how can advay forget that? .and as he dont know who all were involved he has come to know who all are real master minds behind and what exactly happened.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1


If you cannot explain it simply you don't understand well -Einstein
So if the explaination is not understood it only means the person explaining it does not know what they are trying to convey not that the listener is stupid 😆

No concept ever that cannot be explained to a 6th grader ... no concept ever that cannot be understood by a 6 th grader
Skill is in making it simple

PS did not watch the episode or the past few episodes ... but enjoy commenting on posts of especially the ones that say only intellectuals can understand the show :-)



I never talked about intellectual or non intellectuals. I simply said people are used to stories that don't make them think much. Including myself.
That's why I said what I said @bold above in my comment.
The makers have an uphill task. They need to simplify the explanation so that people understand what they're trying to show.

Edited by petrichor. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post! You're absolutely right. The kind of absurdities that are shown in daily soaps are lapped up like crazy. And here is a show which has so much depth, strong characterizations and all we do is nitpick! Its a daily soap not a Hollywood film. Phew! can we please give importance to these kinds of posts rather than giving all undue attention to negative posts! The first page is a horror to go through😡
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Channa_mereyaa

you are not really getting the point .advay is not blaming her for his parents death entirely he is blaming cause due to her the whole premise set up of his mother death started.and that anger is more cause she was only best friend of her one he use to share everything and seems like chandu was close to his mother too.that angers towards chandni is for that . We cant once forget if anyone said bad about our parents how can advay forget that? .and as he dont know who all were involved he has come to know who all are real master minds behind and what exactly happened.



Please read the post again
I am not saying the hatred is unreasonable... I am saying the hatred is justified the execution post that hasn't been able to keep me hooked

I think they are trying to say why he's reasonable in using her as bait ... but again lacks fluidity in conveying that


I am not looking for logic I am looking for involvement ... so i don't think it's necessary for people to relate to the characters to understand the characters ..: I think it's necessary to understand the character to relate to them that this is the way this character will behave ( irrespective of whether it's a story of a physopath or a house wife )
I personal found the explaination of the characters throgh their actions hasn't been consistent ... atleast till I watched it

PS -since my post is not understood ... I would say I should practice what I preach ... if I haven't been able to convey my thought well I seem to have not understood the issue well too :-) just like the makers
if what I am trying to say is ending up as read as something else

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Edited by tttttt1 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: petrichor.



I never talked about intellectual or non intellectuals. I simply said people are used to stories that don't make them think much. Including myself.
That's why I said what I said @bold above in my comment.
The makers have an uphill task. They need to simplify the explanation so that people understand what they're trying to show.

Agree



Agreed :-)

And I didnt mean your post too
No offense intended or taken

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome post.
I am really loving the show and the actors.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1



Please read the post again
I am not saying the hatred is unreasonable... I am saying the hatred is justified the execution post that hasn't been able to keep me hooked

I think they are trying to say why he's reasonable in using her as bait ... but again lacks fluidity in conveying that


I am not looking for logic I am looking for involvement ... so i don't think it's necessary for people to relate to the characters to understand the characters ..: I think it's necessary to understand the character to relate to them that this is the way this character will behave ( irrespective of whether it's a story of a physopath or a house wife )
I personal found the explaination of the characters throgh their actions hasn't been consistent ... atleast till I watched it

PS -since my post is not understood ... I would say I should practice what I preach ... if I haven't been able to convey my thought well I seem to have not understood the issue well too :-) just like the makers
if what I am trying to say is ending up as read as something else

😆



I got what you are trying to say ... Its not that show at times lack logic, its just that they fail in making us connect to the characters so that we will take a few bloopers on the stride.

Let me just take an example ... take movie like ET... its clearly set on a Si-Fi or fantasy (since none has seen aliens yet)... but even ppl who thinks Sci-Fi is trash will agree that the emotional satisfaction the movie gives ... that is coz they made the characters endearing ... same with all the Pixar/Disney movies... its not logic or realistic that matters ... its the character building which make audience love them...

Not that I am comparing a Hindi soap with HW. That was just to explain the situation. First of all the plot of story is interesting but its all too obvious. Nothing done so far is original, but then again no one expected original...So all bets are on the way it is implemented. Now they want to show how Advay is broken by the tragedy of past... instead of making his say this a million times in monologues why cant the makes show the person he is... show what all he went through ... show his loneliness ... A silent scene of him looking at his parents photo or grave ...a scene of him looking at an old couple...something more simple and relatable . Instead they go over board with him repeating same revenge dialogue and its up to viewers to work out the emotions behind that by themselves...

Just to add... the logic of opening a door based on shadow is not that strange...temples in India has such architecture from older days... its just that such points gets lost in a lot of other senseless logics...

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