TRPs? A Result Of Bad Marketing Decisions? - Page 4

TRP is good for a start
It needs a few weeks to get stable
If by then it is not stable
Then we can say that the show is doing bad
Not before that

I really don't want to comment on trps, ipk1 & all.. But as a loyal barun fan..i will be honest...ipk3 is truly getting illogical day by day..!! Today's episode literally made me heartbroken..treasure, opening doors by mantras,snake bite, artificial rain...ufff 😔!!! Such crappy it was...!! It's been 2 weeks ...i couldn't even connect with the show...I'm totally confused lyk the characters in the show..!!!

Originally posted by: medha16

MBA already means that it is management...lol

In India, it's either MBA, PGDM, or PGP.

Anyway, I'm not here to take potshots at you, neither to question whatever it is that you do.

So good luck and good night.

'General Management', simply called as 'Management' is a 'major' in an MBA or a PGDM/PGP program. Just like Accounting, Finance, Marketing, Strategy etc are. It can also be your 'minor' depending on the school you attend and whether they offer minors.

I majored in Strategy, so I say I have an MBA in Strategy and similarly, you can also have an MBA in Management. 😊

https://mba.wharton.upenn.edu/mba-majors/

11th one in the list.

^^

Well said!
Everyone was waiting to watch Barun again, no matter who the female lead was.

But the problem begin, since the day they annonced that the show was going to be named as IPKKN3. Everyone assumed the show for being a sequal of season 1. When they are trying to re-create everything from IPK1 (from Barun to the bgm), it's natural that you expect Sanaya to be approached for the show. But when Barun and Gul say the new show has nothing to do with season 1, then why even take anything from that show into the new show?! This is exactly why people were protesting against the show. It's poor decision by Star Plus.

I don't know why an actor left a show and then come back to do exactly the same kind of character he did 5 years ago?

Gul has shown that she hasn't changed in these 5 years. She has the same love mantra in all her shows before IPK 1 aired and even after IPK1 ended. Hence I wasn't really surprised by the plot.

The viewers from IPKKND 1 will not watch the same kind of story all over again - especially when the lead pair is not the same! We are all grown up now. (Most of us were teenager at the time. Now we are grown up and matured enough to not waste our time to watch the same story). If their target group was teenager and the not their previous viewers of IPK1, then it was best NOT to name the show as IPK3 and use all the bgm from season 1. It would had helped them to just presented as a new show😕.

I feel they are just misusing the bgm in the show, it's not really adapted for this traditional ''religious'' setup. The tunes: Rabba Ve and Kyun Dard Hai seems to forced in IPK3. It's not suitable at all as the setup is totally different from IPK1. Because naming it IPK is not the worst thing, you will accept it as some point and get over it. But using all the kind of ''materials'' they had in IPK1, is just hard to bear🤢

Originally posted by: bahi.

Well said!
Everyone was waiting to watch Barun again, no matter who the female lead was.

But the problem begin, since the day they annonced that the show was going to be named as IPKKN3. Everyone assumed the show for being a sequal of season 1.When they are trying to re-create everything from IPK1 (from Barun to the bgm), it's natural that you expect Sanaya to be approached for the show. But when Barun and Gul say the new show has nothing to do with season 1, then why even take anything from that show into the new show?! This is exactly why people were protesting against the show. It's poor decision by Star Plus.

I don't know why an actor left a show and then come back to do exactly the same kind of character he did 5 years ago?

Gul has shown that she hasn't changed in these 5 years. She has the same love mantra in all her shows before IPK 1 aired and even after IPK1 ended. Hence I wasn't really surprised by the plot.

The viewers from IPKKND 1 will not watch the same kind of story all over again - especially when the lead pair is not the same! We are all grown up now. (Most of us were teenager at the time. Now we are grown up and matured enough to not waste our time to watch the same story). If their target group was teenager and the not their previous viewers of IPK1, then it was best NOT to name the show as IPK3 and use all the bgm from season 1. It would had helped them to just presented as a new show😕.

I feel they are just misusing the bgm in the show, it's not really adapted for this traditional ''religious'' setup. The tunes: Rabba Ve and Kyun Dard Hai seems to forced in IPK3. It's not suitable at all as the setup is totally different from IPK1. Because naming it IPK is not the worst thing, you will accept it as some point and get over it. But using all the kind of ''materials'' they had in IPK1, is just hard to bear🤢

Originally posted by: PSharada

@bold:- Just because you assume the season to be a sequel of IPPKND1 doesn't mean it has to be what you expected it to be. And makers have time and again clearly said that this is not a sequel. So why do people still assume it to be a sequel is very much beyond me.

@bold red:- My simple question is why? Why do people expect that Barun should act only with Sanaya? Is there any rule that has been written somewhere explicitly that Barun should and only act with Sanaya? It is your problem if you can't see anything beyond Arnav - Khushi and go onto weave fantasies with the actors offscreen but Barun is an actor first and foremost and second Barun is not married to Sanaya so that they can always come as package deal. Barun as well as Gul have told time and again that the casting is done according to script requirements and Barun suited the script and not Sanaya. Please de-tangle the emotions you have regarding a fictional couple and see that this is the way things do work in real life. You do get selected for work and projects based on your capability and capability only.

@bold blue:- Exactly same kind of character? Are you sure you are watching the show? Advay is not same character - Advay is a ruthless person who wants revenge. Arnav was a business tycoon who was cynical. I don't know why you think it is same character. And the main thing is this show is a finite series and Barun did say he picked this show up because it was finite series. And why he came back to same show ? Barun did say the show was not named IPK3 when he signed it was SP who changed it to IPK3 after the show got commissioned. So yes Barun didn't come back to IPK3 rather it is SP which named its show to IPK3 after they got Barun on board. Hell lot of difference is there in both of them.

And the rest of the post - Have you never seen any of franchise movies ? Be it Star Wars, James Bond or the latest Fast and Furious, Dhoom Series. Franchises do work in the same way. They don't make show to hook in the original viewers or only for viewers who are fans of the first movie. They create a fan base and then use the same elements in the next films to entice new people and slowly they grow. Star Wars started in 1970s and hey it is still using the same BGM in the latest movie that is going to come out in Dec 2017. This is how franchises work.

And in the end I say this - Some people are just not able to see anything beyond Arnav - Khushi. But the truth is if Arnav - Khushi and IPK was made now with barun - sanaya I don't think it would have clicked as it clicked 5 yrs back. 5 yrs is a long time and actors do change and their appearances change. So what clicked 5 yrs back need not/may not click now. I am glad that Gul is at least trying to create something different with a new jodi and not being complacent and just casting the same old jodi and making the show the easy way. No one said you should watch the show because you liked the first one. And trust me neither Gul nor SP is doing show for online audience. They are doing it for common TRP audience and if they like it the show will click.

Given that the show TRPs for first week was 1.4 - it shows that common TRP audience are not that hung up on Barun should be with Sanaya kind of thing. So with time and story the show will get decent TRPs.

Let me gate break in this conversation.@Bold i posted something in my main comment ,exactly for you guys.Copy pasting the whole comment.


For this season of IPKKND, fans did not demand Sanaya to be roped in because they don't want to see Sanaya with any one other actor than Sobti.We all know Sanaya has worked with Ashish Sharma and Anuj after that and made a spectacular pairing with them.She worked in 2 reality shows and appeared in different episodes of some reality shows,did hosting and always appeared in award shows and no fan of her wanted Barun to be there necessarily. And same goes for Barun.He did a movie and a web series,was any Sanaya fan bothered? HELL NO!

This time people demanded her presence because it is the same show that was made a hit by both Sanaya and Barun.Of course writing,production,direction,presentation are way more important than anything but their pairing too was a strong factor and it should go without saying. So basically fans happen to attach the names of both Sanaya and Barun with ipkknd 1 ,the very reason of her fans demand,about her being in this show. People may not know Sanaya's real name but they do know Khushi andsame goes for Barun aka Arnav.So people do remember the ipkknd of Arnav and Khushi and we can't deny that.


Coming to your post,i believe that the very promotions of the show were all wrong.The show was promoted as ipkknd 3 then why after going on air it claims to be just ipkknd? It should have been ipkknd 3 , just as second season carried 'ek bar phir ' tag or ipkknd hot star version carried "ek jashan" tag.
The current title it self is a depiction of how badly they want to cash on the previous season only.And same goes for the usage of "ASR" and esp the love tune Rabba ve.They used it only so that old audiences return to it but instead most people are irritated.Such a desperate attempt that backfired.


Besides, promotions only included the male lead.I don't understand what the channel people had in their minds.Because lets get real,sp and PH, do you really think whole audience is/was waiting for Barun's comeback ??? From IB to YHM only return of Barun was focused instead of his character,instead of what the show is,instead of how the rest of the characters are.i still remember first few promos of season 1 presented the lead characters and their differences of personalities ,then they focused on the main theme of "nafrat paas anay na day muhabbt door janay na day". They intrigued audience with all the factors instead of just going with how hot the male lead is or how beautiful the female lead is.


Lousy script, tacky and illogical revenge plot,confused and unreal characters(male lead with kind of super powers) and poor presentation,i don't understand why fans are denying these things.Such a forced in the throat story it is.
They have completely wrecked the brand name called ipkknd,they could have achieved wonders with it again.


Last but not the least i too feel that audiences are fed up of these revenge stories of aggressive hero and innocent heroine. As you said it was a different case five years ago.


The one thing i don't agree with is ,same characterization. The characters may look similar if you don't watch the show,but if you do then you figure out that previous season had a depth to its characters be it any character.These characters are all poorly written ..confused writing.


Yes I too think TRP is less, but whatever i said i didn't say it on the basis of TRPs at all. If the script was digestible TRPs wouldn't have mattered ,at least to me,because good shows don't always get decent TRPs. Channel do cares about it though.

I read the whole post properly now@TM...about chandni being insipid...she definitely needs to be stronger...and may be the PH and channel have realized this too...that is why it seems like she will go a transformation in the third week itself(the latest promo and the BTS)...I am not trying to undermine what chandni has went through...but not stepping out of the house for an entire year is a bit too much...she needs to be stronger,for her own good...otherwise men like advay will sexually intimidate her in her own house and she will only be able to cry.

Originally posted by: OnepoundChic

Let me gate break in this conversation.@Bold i posted something in my main comment ,exactly for you guys.Copy pasting the whole comment.


For this season of IPKKND, fans did not demand Sanaya to be roped in because they don't want to see Sanaya with any one other actor than Sobti.We all know Sanaya has worked with Ashish Sharma and Anuj after that and made a spectacular pairing with them.She worked in 2 reality shows and appeared in different episodes of some reality shows,did hosting and always appeared in award shows and no fan of her wanted Barun to be there necessarily. And same goes for Barun.He did a movie and a web series,was any Sanaya fan bothered? HELL NO!

This time people demanded her presence because it is the same show that was made a hit by both Sanaya and Barun.Of course writing,production,direction,presentation are way more important than anything but their pairing too was a strong factor and it should go without saying. So basically fans happen to attach the names of both Sanaya and Barun with ipkknd 1 ,the very reason of her fans demand,about her being in this show. People may not know Sanaya's real name but they do know Khushi andsame goes for Barun aka Arnav.So people do remember the ipkknd of Arnav and Khushi and we can't deny that.


Coming to your post,i believe that the very promotions of the show were all wrong.The show was promoted as ipkknd 3 then why after going on air it claims to be just ipkknd? It should have been ipkknd 3 , just as second season carried 'ek bar phir ' tag or ipkknd hot star version carried "ek jashan" tag.
The current title it self is a depiction of how badly they want to cash on the previous season only.And same goes for the usage of "ASR" and esp the love tune Rabba ve.They used it only so that old audiences return to it but instead most people are irritated.Such a desperate attempt that backfired.


Besides, promotions only included the male lead.I don't understand what the channel people had in their minds.Because lets get real,sp and PH, do you really think whole audience is/was waiting for Barun's comeback ??? From IB to YHM only return of Barun was focused instead of his character,instead of what the show is,instead of how the rest of the characters are.i still remember first few promos of season 1 presented the lead characters and their differences of personalities ,then they focused on the main theme of "nafrat paas anay na day muhabbt door janay na day". They intrigued audience with all the factors instead of just going with how hot the male lead is or how beautiful the female lead is.


Lousy script, tacky and illogical revenge plot,confused and unreal characters(male lead with kind of super powers) and poor presentation,i don't understand why fans are denying these things.Such a forced in the throat story it is.
They have completely wrecked the brand name called ipkknd,they could have achieved wonders with it again.


Last but not the least i too feel that audiences are fed up of these revenge stories of aggressive hero and innocent heroine. As you said it was a different case five years ago.


The one thing i don't agree with is ,same characterization. The characters may look similar if you don't watch the show,but if you do then you figure out that previous season had a depth to its characters be it any character.These characters are all poorly written ..confused writing.


Yes I too think TRP is less, but whatever i said i didn't say it on the basis of TRPs at all. If the script was digestible TRPs wouldn't have mattered ,at least to me,because good shows don't always get decent TRPs. Channel do cares about it though.

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Seriously who on the earth is saying Barun should work with Sanaya only?😆First of all you need to stop twisting the words.All i saw was people asking Gul to cast Sanaya in the show ,because its THE IPK once again.No one said Barun should always work with Sanaya. If you want to go by that then let me tell you both Ashish and anuj have been recklessly bashed by Barun fans claiming that Sanaya should work with Barun only.And now if you are going to tell me "those" weren't his fans then i am saying the same thing," these" aren't her fans either.You do get my point right.Damn its such a useless thing to talk about but your post claiming that people want barun to work with sanaya only,forced me to.


Well if you know things work differently in India then they should have simply changed the name of the drama or could have some changes to the title ,at least keeping their words that its a different show altogether. Just like ipk ek bar phir. Keeping the same music and not even having the guts to change the name of lead (ASR i am talking about) so that you can milk it and then you tell fans that its a different show altogether and move on.


And you must be kidding telling me that SP didn't promote Shivani because they care about the fact that she is being bashed. If SP cared about anything like that Shivani wouldn't have been there in the first place.All sp cares about is ,the business. They didn't promote Shivani because they wanted to milk it as a Barun's show,not giving any importance to rest of the cast.Which is quite ridiculous and would have worked may be if the show had anything to offer like last season.No matter how much you keep on denying the fact that only popular actors can't save the show,the fact will still remain the same.


Initial promos of first season highlighted the differences of lead characters first with that they focused on the nafrat muhabbat theme.(And Shyam being portrayed as a positive character then turned out to be worst of villain was a very smart thing to do.)
And here we didn't get any promo for the female lead at all and i am talking about a promo alone. And seriously its high time,the people who claim to be fans stop defending shit just to prove a point.The show has quite a lot of blunders in all department and two weeks are not that less to not make a judgment.


Its not the online audiences its the producer lady who is still in the ipk 1 hang over.If they want audience to move on and watch a fresh show they need to move on their selves first 😆



Anyways, i won't be replying any further because it won't leading anywhere.I just wanted to clear your people can't see barun working with anyone else" false rants. 😊