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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Freebird_91


Word Nihara 👏

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Nihara...

I am not defending NM but i am laughing at whenever this gender inequality and women empowerment issue comes everywhere even if related to the situation or not 🤣.


If you Say Gul obsessed with male leads and doesnt give hoot about FLs giving example of Neha,Vrushy,SC being Chucked out i agree about Gul😆

But where did NM shown Gender inequality?🤣.I dont think this issue is related here at all😆.I dont think NM shows partiality towards women and men😆.I think he treats men and women equally as far as i observed.Then from where this discussion is coming i dont know😆.

Regarding Women empowerment,First of all i want perfect definition of it😆.Using telugu word here "Sangha sankartha" idk which word is apt to use for it in English,someone can help me here)He is not some sangha samskartha to change the whole society and fighting for social issues is not his single goal of life😆.And he never claimed that it is his life goal anywhere i guess and also how this women empowerment issue applicable here i really couldnt relate😆.And i feel SC wouldn't have quit the show if others are being chucked out.And it not anywhere related to gender inequality😆.

I think he is normal guy like us who have his own goals in life like satisfying his wife,his parents,his career,his needs,his bread & butter.So first we have to satisfy family before doing social service as far as i believe😆.

I only said its not profitable decision for him to continue and if max extent i can say actors doesn't care about their roles in the show as far as they get paycheck.Beyond this extent i couldn't blame them and i couldn't relate with these two issues like GI,WE popping up everywhere😆


Nihara...I love you for saying this aloud and clear ! Well said...👏

yes I understand that telugu word - they are social reformers...whose sole goal is to bring those reforms and work for the betterment of society...

What NM does on SM and what his ideals are that he posted on SM are things he believes ...acting is his first love and he has unashamedly accepted on media that he does this bcoz he gets hefty paycheck which he can use to fulfil his desires like travelling around the world...
He as an individual believes that he needs to contribute to society and our country ! Didn't he not do collab with his friend for Bhaag Anil Bhaag campaign ? That is something he does outside his regular work which is acting...

No way I am saying fighting for SC is wrong...but then dragging NM into this thing is no way acceptable...
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Nihara...

I am not defending NM but i am laughing at whenever this gender inequality and women empowerment issue comes everywhere even if related to the situation or not 🤣.





Same. I mean do people realize how serious the GI/WE debate is jo they are using it in such a frivolous manner? Those are the only kinda fans I feel mad about. If you really want to fight for GI then there are 83580757234 cases that are more urgent and require the level of passion seen by some of the delusional fans fighting for the "cause" as they term it.


Seriously, if you want to go to the bloody UN, pick a better "cause"
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ithihaas


Nihara...I love you for saying this aloud and clear ! Well said...👏

yes I understand that telugu word - they are social reformers...whose sole goal is to bring those reforms and work for the betterment of society...

What NM does on SM and what his ideals are that he posted on SM are things he believes ...acting is his first love and he has unashamedly accepted on media that he does this bcoz he gets hefty paycheck which he can use to fulfil his desires like travelling around the world...
He as an individual believes that he needs to contribute to society and our country ! Didn't he not do collab with his friend for Bhaag Anil Bhaag campaign ? That is something he does outside his regular work which is acting...

No way I am saying fighting for SC is wrong...but then dragging NM into this thing is no way acceptable...


Even if he as an individual believes that he needs to contribute to society and our country i think he didnt claim anywhere that he would it at the cost of his own needs😆 ofcourse i dont do myself anything at the cost of my needs😆.How do i expect from him😆.

He is not politician fighting for some CM or PM seat to sacrifice everything for social service and i agree actors doesnt care fans emotions at cost of their needs i mentioned already i didn't blame him for that😆.But i am not surprised as i already saw actors IVs saying we r just doing our job when we are cribbing about butchering of characters and how we emotionally connected to them,then after seeing all those videos how can i ask them to do something for me and ofcourse i dont support the projects if they are against my (or fans) sentiments thats it, as my emotions are important than actor's success😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
Full disclosure before I start so not to be accused later. I am here for NM, Shivika and Narbhi. I am one of the rare fans who likes all the characters and actors. I am a glutton for punishment and have watched Geet and IPK 1. I know the drill with GK an I'm not surprised this has happened. People think she doesn't learn lessons but it has taken her longer to ruin IB than previous shows so she's clearly learning something! Guls behaviour towards SC has been unprofessional, unethical and insulting to say the least. All my points below would apply for SC if she was retained and NM had been asked to leave.

In answer to your question yes he can play the character of Shivaansh and yes the bashing is wrong. Maybe I empathise with him more because I was put in similar situation when a colleague of mine who was made redundant after working for the company for 20 years. We all voiced our grievances to management but no one left. I have strong principles and morals so does that make me a hypocrite for not leaving? No i don't believe it does. On the end of the day I have a house to run and bills to pay and that's just real life. He is being accused of 'buttering', being money minded and being called the 'golden boy' of star plus and fake feminist. Let me take each of these accusations individually. Firstly what you call 'buttering' is called networking. This is common practice in the real world and every actor worth their salt does it. The difference is NM does it openly and is better than others at it because he is well read and well travelled. He is eloquently spoken and is likely to get on better with people on the top because of these skills.
Of the six main cast members NM appears to be the only one running his house. He clearly has other business interests as well. Do people just expect him to sit at home unemployed? NM is in his mid 30's and most likely will be asked to play a father to grown up children soon. If he's offered an opportunity to play a strong young male character in a female dominated industry I personally don't see anything wrong with this. Yes, I understand that with HS amazing emotionally evolved writing the leap will most likely fail but at least he gets to essay a role which will help showcase a different side to him and at the same time not be called unprofessional for leaving. In an industry that seems to be filled with morally corrupt people it may just be a matter of the better devil you know with Gulneet.
In terms of people using the term 'golden boy' derogatorily, I don't personally see anything wrong him being the 'golden boy ' for the channel. In the UK a number of actors have a personal preference for a particular channel. We have something called 'golden handcuffs ' whereby a contract is made for an actor/ actress to work exclusively for that channel for a x number of years. This is NM's second successful outing with Star Plus. He does hosting gigs and other work as well for them. If he has managed build a successful partnership with them through his hard work I fail to understand the issue with this. If SC builds a successful partnership with a channel in the future would you also bash her or feel proud that she has done this through hard work and diligence. The double standards at play are painful to read.
I will talk about this 'fake feminist title he has acquired in the next post.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I honestly confessing i myself participated in trend NoSurbhiNoIshqbaaaz for 1 hr on 1st day and half an hour for second day but i got tired and i gave up 😆.But i still had some discontent or some uneasiness for what happened to SC then and i supported in my head whoever trending for her then😆,but when SC herself said in IVs that she is quite content and supporting Gul's decision i feel why the heck we are bothering about her then and i couldn't relate with people still fighing for justice for Surbhi😆.If victim is against our witness in the court and not at all bothered about justice for himself or herself what we would do?We would get justice when victim herself is supporting it?We still show interest?😆.So i think i moved on from the actors😆.And feeling bad for myself as injustuce happened to my Shivika 😆. and fans .ofcourse they are fictional but i am emotionally connected to them😆.

But if people ask me for whom who i have soft corner😆.I would say SC as she agrees or not she is not given any credit as a FL on the montage after all that dedication she shown for 2.7 yrs atleast not as much as NM got either from PH or in awards😆.And am personally more of a fan of SC than NM for her acting but i am not a blind fan who blindly supports everything what they do😆


Edited by ...Nihara... - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
@Nihara

I do not think SC wasn't unfairly treated throughout IB's run. I spoke about it myself when I was an active member here and on twitter. I do feel Gul is male-lead obsessed; I mean it's very clear in every show she does

But I find it incredibly stupid how people are making this a GI issue because let's be frank, if it's GI you care so passionate about, you'd not even be watching IB. (and be 'you' I mean audiences in general, not YOU in particular 😆).

I understand people participating in the trend when the news first broke. It was a spontaneous reaction and I'm glad SC was shown that she is cared for. I'm very glad it trended, too. Because that trend didn't pretend to be something it wasn't. Everyone was clear that it was a stan thing - nothing more, nothing less - and there's nothing wrong with that because this show has made people so passionate about the lead pair. But when people start confusing real with reel, it's hilarious and stupid.

Also, since everyone is talking about what is right and what is wrong so unabashedly, I might as well do so, too. I think NM might taint his legacy as SSO and does take advantage of his better position with the channel but in no way do I think this should stop him from playing Shivaansh as that role will pay for his expensive and "exotic" trips 😆 which seem to be important for him. For SC, I think she was very unfairly treated. Always has been and always will if she continues despite being an equal partner but I also think she is too much of a pillu bacha who takes no stand for herself. Also through her IVs, she seemed to me to be under the delusion that fans were fighting to get her back (she kept telling everyone it's okay I will do more shows, you'll see me elsewhere 😆) when fans were actually fighting for SHivIka. NO ONE cares about the fans, clearly and fans themselves are getting nothing but added tension by still fighting for people who don't give two hoots about anything but "doing business". Which is another reason why I see this "GI cause" as useless and frankly - dumb - because it isn't a GI cause at all. Of course if you're doing this to vent out your anger and feel better in the process, then, there's nothing like catharsis but don't pretend to be fighting for something you OBVIOUSLY don't give a shit about . :P

For me, PERSONALLY, I don't give a shit about the actors' personal choices. I cared about ShivIka and the story that revolved around them. When that went, so did I. I hated AU and never bothered watching it. For me RU ShivIka are safe and happy, grew old together and had a cricket team of kids and 3 cricket teams of grand kids 😆 I can revisit them whenever I want to and that's that. 😆

P.S. I apologize if this offended someone. That wasn't the intention since this is just my personal opinion
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Nihara...

@Risha

I honestly confessing i myself participated in trend NoSurbhiNoIshqbaaaz for 1 hr on 1st day and half an hour for second day but i got tired and i gave up 😆.But i still had some discontent or some uneasiness for what happened to SC then and i supported in my head whoever trending for her then😆,but when SC herself said in IVs that she is quite content and supporting Gul's decision i feel why the heck we are bothering about her then and i couldn't relate with people still fighing for justice for Surbhi😆.If victim is against our witness in the court and not at all bothered about justice for himself or herself what we would do?We would get justice when victim herself is supporting it?We still show interest?😆.So i think i moved on from the actors😆.And feeling bad for myself as injustuce happened to my Shivika 😆. and fans .ofcourse they are fictional but i am emotionally connected to them😆.

But if people ask me for whom who i have soft corner😆.I would say SC as she agrees or not she is not given any credit as a FL on the montage after all that dedication she shown for 2.7 yrs atleast not as much as NM got either from PH or in awards😆.And am personally more of a fan of SC than NM for her acting but i am not a blind fan who blindly supports everything what they do😆



Behen rulaoge kya 😭 aaja gale lag jaa 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Even if they want to fight about gender inequality for what gul is doing but they should tag the channel but tagging UN 🤣.And one more thing they are tagging #Workplacebullying #Workplaceharassement 🤣.If we assume they were mentally harassed how do you show proofs to UN when SC,Neha happily seen chilling out there with gul🤣
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Freebird_91


Behen rulaoge kya 😭 aaja gale lag jaa 😆


haha...being a DQ again...😆

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