CHRONICLES OF 'D CURIOUS CASE OF PER DIEM ISHQBAAAZ' CUE#16 - Page 11

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Posted: 7 years ago
Annika's face is haunting me... I really wish they kept Shivika personal life out of this preaching. I agree with everything Shivaay said. But when I am looking at Annika and what she might be going though... I am feeling like I am going to collapse myself. I am more eager to see how Shivaay will react tomorrow.

Tomorrow is going to be a long wait...
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Posted: 7 years ago
And what is he going to say privately? She demanded it too he could have grabbed her hand and took her to room and be like his on people and delayed his drama for later not like ghar wale were running away they are forever there to watch drama
It is so stupid and out of character for him

This is the shivaay who once told pinky he never knew how it feels to have broken sapne . Today he is like oh mere se bada mahaan koi hai nahi saari kurbani maine di. I thought he liked taking responsibility being Sab Theek Kar Dene Wala Billu. Yes Pressures Were There Thabks To The Elders Who Were SO Irresponsible He DidBecame Old BefOre HiS Time Yet He Never Regretted It. Again Agar Yeh Bhi Dikhana Tha So This Could've Been Great Great Private Conversation Him Finally Opening Up To Anika Talking ABout His StruggleS This Was No Way To Wrap TheM Up Sorry I Did Not Feel Sorry For Him And I Melt At Slighest Bechara Face Of Billu

And who even otessurized them

You are telling me this is the shivaay who so maturely handled this issue back before laal ishq that aapne poocha so am answering to shut everyone otherwise it is private between us..sirf kehne ke liye humare beech jo hai humara hai baaki sab public tamasha

Aaj toh don't want it she should oblige kal toh want it she should oblige. Where is the equal counterpart. So you are basically using her body as a human incubator bacha paida karne ki machine

Sorry I am one of the biggest shivaay supporters but yeh kya tha?

Idk this shivaay I just don't

Also why does anika need an advocate to question him on her behalf about whether he is denying her the sukh of motherhood or not? Why suddenly the sister needs to do all this for anika. Anika ki apni zabaan kya ghaas charne chali gayi hai?

She should be a meek cow ab everyone speaking on her behalf taking decisions for her

What will they show as her POV? Same old main darr gayi thi sorry your wish is my command

This was such a good topic to build the conflict between the 2 they could've used it so well to make a good track out if it as it is no matter how prepared or not prepared you are it always is a roller coaster of emotions not an easy journey at all. Itne ache se dono sides dikha sakte thay maturely but nahi social bhashan dene hai. Chatacters gaye tel lene

P.S Feel Free To Call Me Negative Idc I Can Take Anything Not Playing Around With Shivika And Their Basics

P.P.S This Is The Same Shivaay Whi Was Ready To Uthao Tia Ke Bache Ki Zimeedari But Anika Ka Bacha Who Cares He Wants Ti Be FlyingBird

I Am Even More Amazed That Moments Before Breaki G Anika Into Pieces He Appologized TO Bhavya On Rudy's Behalf For His Insensitivity

And Yes For The First Time I Felt Bad For Bhavya Too The Way He Went Bas Nahi Chahiye As If Raat Ki Roti Hai Aaj Nahi Khani

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Posted: 7 years ago
I am sorry but i liked yesterday Rudy crying better than Shivaay staging a gnyaan show! So unrealistic! Why did they miss the popcorn?
Poor Annika, her face reflected so much disappointment and hurt! And Shivaay was oblivious to that?
I thought looking at yesterdays precap, perhaps he will say, mujhe bacchaa nahi, bacchi chaahiye! But no, this duffer gives a mile long lecture!

Would have made an impact if daadi had asked both of them and if Annika had also said that there is still time or something!
Agree with his points that there is always outside pressure but this came up with so much negative vobes! Not to mention highly insensitive!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: swash2

I am sorry but i liked yesterday Rudy crying better than Shivaay staging a gnyaan show! So unrealistic! Why did they miss the popcorn?

Poor Annika, her face reflected so much disappointment and hurt! And Shivaay was oblivious to that?
I thought looking at yesterdays precap, perhaps he will say, mujhe bacchaa nahi, bacchi chaahiye! But no, this duffer gives a mile long lecture!

Would have made an impact if daadi had asked both of them and if Annika had also said that there is still time or something!
Agree with his points that there is always outside pressure but this came up with so much negative vobes! Not to mention highly insensitive!


It becomes worse because he knows how much she craves for family for someone to call truly her apna to have that khoon ka rishta eith

Chutki foesn't count caz hardly any bond yeah she found her now but that cord was broken long ago itne bada hoke rishte banana becomes really mushkil idk how close she can get to gauri at this stage and even if she does idk if they can ever be like normal sisters forgetting the trauma caz the timegap will always come in between. Personally idt I am capable of restarting thinking oh I have a sibling Ididn't knew of and be really myself with him/her now .the bond will be different then what I have with the ones I've lived with

So in that sense a bacha can be truly her own in every sense so the shivaay who wants her to feel poora find her identity wants her to feel the family love knowing she wants that something of her own something she can in a way be a proud owner of and be like haan yeh ye mera hai in every sense is taking away from her. he could've easily talked and came to conclusion that we need thoda time to take that step without this I just don't want
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Posted: 7 years ago
I read everybody's POV.I do agree with a few points but disagree with a few too😳. Allow me to explain further.

1. First things first, The man has a Pov which stands correct from his point, I m sure Anika has her fears too which is why this situation is created for them to talk.

2. Coming to character assassination, caring for a child n having one of your own are two different things.From his theatrical monolouge its clear, he had to take the responsibilty being the eldest son.There wasnt much choice. Om n rudra could sit there n enjoy the show coz he gave them freedom to do what they wanted to. But making a child n taking such a huge responsibilty is his choice today n thus he needs a little more time.

3. Shivaay has always needed a push on the marriage front. First accepting it n then being an equal partner in it. So there is nothing New in his reaction. During ML track he had shown, resistance n now also he did show.its in his mind since he mentioned, he now feels Anika is the mother of his children. In the course of 500 episodes this is the first time this issue is raised so openly so let them talk atleast.

4. Insenstivity, it did look initially esp at Rudra front n a bit from Shivaay too. But like i said before, Its a matter of choice, he doesnt know anika is pregnant,neither she is.he wanted to talk later in their room. That was being private n sensitive.Twice he said that but dadi n anika pushed him for now, wasnt that a bit insensitive? Infact When Anika was moving out without looking at him he stopped her to clarify, which was him being sensitive again.

5. When is he saying he doesnt want kids, he wants them out of Love, not out of pressure. This ia a Great topic n something I m very close to. Its not a social cause, its damn personal😳

6. You want to raise a Child in The right environment n for that both Need to be ready together. Its fine if one partner needs a little more time. He is not dictating neither preaching, he is keping hIs Pov n after this will listen to hers too n then come to a mid point but before that we need to relax a little n let it play for our sanity😆

7. Kids who are born without planning can be often a burden, but again depends individually.there is a reason ppl say, children born to older parents are better reared. Even if one is born early, he or she feels the younger one is getting better treated coz obviously the parents are older n more experienced now.

8. As far as I know he is a partner who cares about Anika pov The most.we cant take that away from him just coz of Having an opinion for a Child. So eventually he will come around too, just let the talk happen between them, The some touch Can pour in too😉

I hope i have not hurt anybody's feelings.I m sorry if i have but that wasnt my intention at all.Pardon Me if i have. We Have felt bad for AnIkA, I Agree but He Does have a right to SaY So SHe NeEdS To HeAr HiM OuT ToO WiTh AN OpEn MiNd.As FaR As gaUrI Is CoNcErNeD ShE Is JuSt ThErE FrOm anIka side of FaMiLy.noThInG MoRe,noThInG else.n heR RoLe is miNiMuM In ShIvIkA DeCiSiOn Of HaViNg A BaBy.😳

Edited by Thwisha617 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Thwisha617

I read everybody's POV.I do agree with a few points but disagree with a few too😳. Allow me to explain further.


1. First things first, The man has a Pov which stands correct from his point, I m sure Anika has her fears too which is why this situation is created for them to talk.

2. Coming to character assassination, caring for a child n having one of your own are two different things.From his theatrical monolouge its clear, he had to take the responsibilty being the eldest son.There wasnt much choice. Om n rudra could sit there n enjoy the show coz he gave them freedom to do what they wanted to. But making a child n taking such a huge responsibilty is his choice today n thus he needs a little more time.

3. Shivaay has always needed a push on the marriage front. First accepting it n then being an equal partner in it. So there is nothing New in his reaction. During ML track he had shown, resistance n now also he did show.its in his mind since he mentioned, he now feels Anika is the mother of his children. In the course of 500 episodes this is the first time this issue is raised so openly so let them talk atleast.

4. Insenstivity, it did look initially esp at Rudra front n a bit from Shivaay too. But like i said before, Its a matter of choice, he doesnt know anika is pregnant,neither she is.he wanted to talk later in their room. That was being private n sensitive.Twice he said that but dadi n anika pushed him for now, wasnt that a bit insensitive? Infact When Anika was moving out without looking at him he stopped her to clarify, which was him being sensitive again.

5. When is he saying he doesnt want kids, he wants them out of Love, not out of pressure. This ia a Great topic n something I m very close to. Its not a social cause, its damn personal😳

6. You want to raise a Child in The right environment n for that both Need to be ready together. Its fine if one partner needs a little more time. He is not dictating neither preaching, he is keping hIs Pov n after this will listen to hers too n then come to a mid point but before that we need to relax a little n let it play for our sanity😆

7. Kids who are born without planning can be often a burden, but again depends individually.there is a reason ppl say, children born to older parents are better reared. Even if one is born early, he or she feels the younger one is getting better treated coz obviously the parents are older n more experienced now.

8. As far as I know he is a partner who cares about Anika pov The most.we cant take that away from him just coz of Having an opinion for a Child. So eventually he will come around too, just let the talk happen between them, The some touch Can pour in too😉

I hope i have not hurt anybody's feelings.I m sorry if i have but that wasnt my intention at all.Pardon Me if i have. We Have felt bad for AnIkA, I Agree but He Does have a right to SaY So SHe NeEdS To HeAr HiM OuT ToO WiTh AN OpEn MiNd.As FaR As gaUrI Is CoNcErNeD ShE Is JuSt ThErE FrOm anIka side of FaMiLy.noThInG MoRe,noThInG else.n heR RoLe is miNiMuM In ShIvIkA DeCiSiOn Of HaViNg A BaBy.😳


Twish, why sorry? All of us have our own views and that is what is special about being in a forum! We get to see from others' POV too and sometimes that makes us agree.
I am with all your points but the way CVs made Shivaay stage that show was ridiculous! All of them were pretty matured there so he could have just said all this without the dramatics and theatrics! Which was not needed!
Yes, he did say he will discuss with Annika but then the way he clearly said i dont want a baby at first sounded too patronizing! Especially in public! And that he was made to say it in a serious tone!
If he had made the dramatics then like Rudy and rolled his eyes, that would have at least diffused his seriousness! Well, let us see how this turns out!
TG Annika did not hear his i cant imagine having a baby with Annika from before!

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Posted: 7 years ago
Thanks Mala😃

I do agree the theatrical extravaganza got a lot over board.now to think of it, may be if it had come after the private talk it cuz have added the grace the topic needed. I think the placement went wrong. Thought was right from a drama point of you. They presented a mime, but timing went wrong.

Yes he stuttered before saying something so insensitive n then tried to back track it with let's talk later but it backfired on him coz now Anika wanted to go all out on topic.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I have a take on why Annika may have insisted him on answering in public. Here Shivaay oblivious to the fact that Annika is suspecting to be pregnant voiced out his opinions as a follow up of Rudy's situation. By then Annika already understood that she miscalculated his reaction. Earlier she thought he will be elated whereas now he doesnt seem to be eager on having kids.

So she kind of wanted him to answer in yes or no. Because she also had to decide for herself now that she figured she might be pregnant with a baby Shivaay doesnt want right now. Her happy bubble had burst by then. She needed a clarity on it then n there. And Shivaay was really honest from his part. I doubt he could have been so honest when discussing it privately.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Twish,
My issue with yesterday episode is not Shivaay's POV at all.

He having an opinion about when/how to have a kid is fair enough ! But problem is with the way the issue has been presented as Shivaay's POV just for the makers to show the social issue !

I am not even considering if Annika is pregnant or not in all my explanations below !

Annika looked genuinely surprised at Shivaay's words about kids and she specifically asked if he doesn't want kids now or forever. And first Shivaay says not sure and may be like forever ! Looks like he never ever thought about kids (if he wanted them or not )
So its clear they never discussed this topic before ! Either they want or dont want the kids !

And then he explains about social pressure which is very relevant topic bcoz its an every day issue for most of us ! I dont want to go into the theatrical drama staged bcoz now a days each of the character has been either OOC or OTT just for highlighting the social issues !
From the way he explained about kids, it looked like its a very well thought about decision! Contradicting to what he answered to Annika when she asked him just before the theatre drama !

If you have such a determined opinion, shouldn't you share this with your wife first ? They have been in love, had consummated their marriage and then have been living together as husband/wife !

For a educated person, shouldn't this be the first thing you discuss with your partner when you have some clear thoughts on what you want to do ? That's called family planning !
You don't discuss your opinions with your partner and when the topic presented itself(yesterday bcoz of Bhavya/Rudy) you say that you should have kid only when both partners are ready !

and anyways no one in family ever pressurized Annika/Shivaay for kids as far as I remember ! Not even Dadi ! Today too she said its natural to have babies only when Shivaay said that he doesn't want to have kids !

How does this add up ?

As far as discussing in public, its nothing new in IB land, every thing about Shivika is discussed in public whether they had consummated their marriage or not and lot of other stuff ! I have come to terms that for Shivika in IB land, nothing is private for them !
I only see it as the way CVs write the story just to have every one on screen ! easy job for them ! 🥱

While the issue itself is very very apt and needing thought process , I didn't like the way CVs just handled this issue ! Just to show an social issue they made it into Shivaay's POV and then presented it !
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Originally posted by: ithihaas

Twish,

My issue with yesterday episode is not Shivaay's POV at all.

He having an opinion about when/how to have a kid is fair enough ! But problem is with the way the issue has been presented as Shivaay's POV just for the makers to show the social issue !

I am not even considering if Annika is pregnant or not in all my explanations below !

Annika looked genuinely surprised at Shivaay's words about kids and she specifically asked if he doesn't want kids now or forever. And first Shivaay says not sure and may be like forever ! Looks like he never ever thought about kids (if he wanted them or not )
So its clear they never discussed this topic before ! Either they want or dont want the kids !

And then he explains about social pressure which is very relevant topic bcoz its an every day issue for most of us ! I dont want to go into the theatrical drama staged bcoz now a days each of the character has been either OOC or OTT just for highlighting the social issues !
From the way he explained about kids, it looked like its a very well thought about decision! Contradicting to what he answered to Annika when she asked him just before the theatre drama !

If you have such a determined opinion, shouldn't you share this with your wife first ? They have been in love, had consummated their marriage and then have been living together as husband/wife !

For a educated person, shouldn't this be the first thing you discuss with your partner when you have some clear thoughts on what you want to do ? That's called family planning !
You don't discuss your opinions with your partner and when the topic presented itself(yesterday bcoz of Bhavya/Rudy) you say that you should have kid only when both partners are ready !

and anyways no one in family ever pressurized Annika/Shivaay for kids as far as I remember ! Not even Dadi ! Today too she said its natural to have babies only when Shivaay said that he doesn't want to have kids !

How does this add up ?

As far as discussing in public, its nothing new in IB land, every thing about Shivika is discussed in public whether they had consummated their marriage or not and lot of other stuff ! I have come to terms that for Shivika in IB land, nothing is private for them !
I only see it as the way CVs write the story just to have every one on screen ! easy job for them !🥱

While the issue itself is very very apt and needing thought process , I didn't like the way CVs just handled this issue ! Just to show an social issue they made it into Shivaay's POV and then presented it !



Extremely well put. Just to bring in the societal pressure thing they muddled up Shivika rrlationship. The lesson was good but doesnt apply to Shivika situation ever. Shivaay one moment seems to be confused and the other time it comes across as hard core decision. How the hell they didnt discuss this before or while all this love making? The possibility of being pregnant is always there. Just like Annika is suspecting now. So how can you not ever discuss this particualrly if you have such views of having kids?

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