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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SRKisLove




Okay I wasn't intending on checking back on this thread, but a friend mentioned that I have been indirectly referenced to. Thats the only reason I'm replying to this.


The TM created this thread to request for a Disclaimer. So I actually went back and found my OS, to see whether I placed a Disclaimer or not. And lo and behold I had.

Here it goes:

Disclaimer: I'm no writer, and this is a result of some major frustration because I made the mistake of reading an episode update. Its not really a good piece of writing, and if you want to read something good, then move on from this one.

I posted this on my blog some days back, but I was unsure of whether I should post it on Indiaforums because it does not protect creative liberty.


None of the characters are portrayed in a good light here. But a fanfiction gives the writer the liberty to portray characters as they choose or view them in the show.



So, without meaning to, I had actually heeded the TM's request. Pat on my back for that. 😆


Secondly, the part in red, is of importance. I clearly mention that none of the characters are portrayed in good light here.

So if despite that, Shivika/Anika/Bhavya fans read this work then I can just say, volenti non fit injuria.

I've portrayed my own favorite, Gauri, as a lawbreaker, and emotional manipulator. I've portrayed Omkara as a negligent husband. But I don't see Gauri or Omkara fans thinking that it was a petty attack on their favs.


As for being a comment on Shivika's love story, I have watched IB since beginning, and I've maintained since I entered the forum that Annika, Gauri and Bhavya/Soumya deserve much better guys than the Obros. Time and again I've said the same thing in different threads. That thought process has reflected in my work. Shivika were not the central focus in my work, the focus was Gauri and how she perceived the Oberois. And that too is my perception of how she perceives the family, not the CVs perception that anyone should take offense.


I'm glad you stopped midway and didn't report it. Thanks for that.

But if you think this piece was a 'resentment for things which cannot be said on the main forum' then you are wrong dear.😆


This work was resentment against the CVs for the nonsense they are showing in the serial. And I resent the CVs not just for obliterating Rikara. But also for butchering Annika, Gauri and Bhavya's characters. Because imo all the relationships are unhealthy. In real life, no girl is going to stay with the male specimens like Obros. 🥱


My work is a result of my frustration with the show, with the CVs. And my interpretation of how things should be. In case you missed it out let me repeat what I wrote in the disclaimer, I'm no writer, and this is a result of some major frustration

If despite the Disclaimer you continued to read it, then its a 'YOU' problem and not my fault.

And if you think I or other Rikara fanfic writers, write fanfics to say things we can't say openly on the forum, then let me clear it once and for all, we write to say things not shown in the show, to portray Rikara as we want to see them, and maybe to channel our frustration with CVs. Shivika fans, fortunately or unfortunately, are not that relevant to influence our writings. 😆


#Sorry not sorry.



Slay ananya slay👏😎
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: nakshatra72

Yes putting a disclaimer or not writers wish.. But what is wrong with asking for one? The point of this post was requesting a desclaimer to all IB writers so it could be easier for readers to decide which one to read and which one to leave.. This could have been answered with yes or no..


That is why, I said I know you have put this as a good effort. I haven't all the replies on the thread. But, just wished to state my point of view. Creating the thread a battlefield was never the intention. And, it should not be done too. Things can be dealt with politeness.

Umm, I think readers should decide on their own what. There are lots of fan of different characters . My point is just that reader should not always rely on writer specially when it is about characters.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: LTLFan



@Bold black - I hope that applies to all writers including the show writers, not just FF writers. CVs are blamed for the very same thing too. 😆



I don't mind CVs favouritism. Their wish, their show.
If I have sweared to suffer by watching some ridiculous show till it's end then that's my fault. No one ties me to watch the show except my wish.
Watch it till you enjoy it, otherwise Tata Bye Bye.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: nakshatra72

Sorry it is my mistake I didn't know requesting anything in this forum is a criminal offense, won't do it again.. People talk about reporting here, but they forget that I am not requesting behalf of shivika fandom I am requesting behalf of myself.. But yeah, people who expect tolerance and preach about ignoring, cannot ignore a post which they find offensive.. So this is my last reply.. I still stand by what i have said, a desclaimer would be nice but if you don't want to put it it's your wish.. I am not forcing anyone.. And about report, I am not a leader to tell someone what to do and what not to do.. If they want to report something it's their wish, and their freedom.. And before you start saying I told rikara writers what to do and what not to do, I didn't but yeah that is too much to comprehend..


@bold- do you even care about those things which fall under criminal offense? Aren't you the same person who tried to glorify all kaali kartoot of shivaay with some idiotic and lame comparison? Just to refresh your memory


In this entire post you are contradicting yourself. You cannot request readers not to report stories but you can request writers to put desclaimer and then you claim I have comprehension problem? 😆



Problem is with moderation. Naazuk pankhis feeling offended because opposite fandom presenting their favourite lord as villian in one of fiction story, mods listing their sob story AND throwing that fiction into trash bin to pamper them is most idiotic thing. Next time if you feel like to present your request list, title should be 'Request to the MODs of IB forum'


@Red- 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: White..Magic


@bold- do you even care about those things which fall under criminal offense? Aren't you the same person who tried to glorify all kaali kartoot of shivaay with some idiotic and lame comparison? Just to refresh your memory


In this entire post you are contradicting yourself. You cannot request readers not to report stories but you can request writers to put desclaimer and then you claim I have comprehension problem? 😆



Problem is with moderation. Naazuk pankhis feeling offended because opposite fandom presenting their favourite lord as villian in one of fiction story, mods listing their sob story AND throwing that fiction into trash bin to pamper them is most idiotic thing. Next time if you feel like to present your request list, title should be 'Request to the MODs of IB forum'


@Red- 😆

You tell me one cannot dictate writer to write what they should write at the same time you are telling me whom should I request.. You tell me it's the pov of writer so I should respect it at the same time you bring one of my post which is my pov by the way and mock it.. You tell me I should ignore the fictions which I find offensive at the same time you are commenting here and telling me that my request is offensive to writers.. What I write and whom I request is my wish.. And it's my freedom.. Before preaching me about how one has freedom to express their thoughts and all make sure that you are not questioning others freedom to express their thoughts..

Edited by nakshatra72 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: napstermonster

I thought about whether I would jump into this post at least 30 times before I decided to write this--so if you are reading this, please understand that I am very sure of my thoughts here, so take that as a given. And if this gets too real--so be it..


I am a writer, and I've been one for almost 8 years now--and written for two other shows aside from Ishqbaaz-- (Rangrasiya and IPKKND-1) so I speak from experience regarding writing, the fan fiction world and the audience for this kind of creative work. Also, not to blow my own horn--but I'm well known as a writer of fan fiction, for me this is a passion and not a hobby. I have a clear grasp of the audience, and the guidelines on India Forums. I know what I'm speaking of. I've stopped updating a lot of my stories here, as my friends left. The toxicity of this forum eroded my interest in publishing here, so I rarely visit.

But no matter what-- I have never in my life heard of a fiction being banned because of how the writer is handling a character from the main serial story.

Never.

From IPKKND days, Arnav- Khushi ---the original fan fiction subjects---- have been everything from a terrorist cell leader and his captive, to a gunda and his prostitute to a pre Partition couple torn between India-Pakistan. The only limitation to their stories has been the imagination of the writers--and ALL versions, where the villain is the hero, where the sisters are married to the "wrong" guy,-- ALL versions have been accepted, liked, and allowed to exist. If someone has a problem with the story line, that specific reader has simply put that writer on the mental list of "do not read" and moved on to find a story they do like. No harm, no foul.

That is the implicit understanding of us writers, with you readers. You read it, you comment and like. You don't read it, or you don't like the work--the X button is right there, you close the work and you move on. Maybe you send the writer a PM telling her why her work stinks. Maybe you don't bother. But you don't ask for disclaimers, You dont think you own the fictional take on the characters we writers create, and you don't get a story banned!
I'm not into the Rikara fandom as a whole-- full disclosure. I feel there are certain members who are very bitter, and their bitterness comes through in their attitude to the main storyline of Ishqbaaz, which is, and will always be, Shivika. But they have had cause to be bitter, bhai. If you are going to be even remotely fair, admit to yourself, they do have cause for their anger towards the storyline and towards Gul--their couple went from leading their own show, to attractive wallpaper to vanwas, as it were, when there was a LOT of potential there.

And these Rikara story potentials have come to life here, in their fan fiction. They have been on the front two pages of the Ishqbaaz forum with story after story for over 6 months now, because the Rikara fandom are actively FOLLOWING those stories, encouraging the Rikara writers, trying to find their own identity for their couple. And the writers are clearly responding to a demand, to their own need to tell their stories--they are trying to give Gauri and Om a voice and a journey and a love life that Gul and Co. have not given.

If you dont like their couple, why the heck are you reading those stories? Don't they have the right to turn Shivaay into a monster or Anika into a drama queen, or Rudra into a vampire -- whatever -- in their alternate works? Works they are creating within their own posts, and discussing within that, that is not all over the forum? WHY would that be a problem for the rest of us? Do we not get our couple onscreen? Do we not have our own Shivika centric fan fiction writers?

I am an Ishqbaaz writer. I think anyone who has been on this site from the beginning would know--I am also a very passionate Shivika fan. But I've followed the series from Day 1, and so my writing is based on what I liked from way back when the serial had two different leading ladies and a sister for the brothers called Priyanka, and an ACP for that sister, too. So I'm writing fantasy fan fiction, mainly-- for characters who aren't even onscreen anymore. Rikara readers don't read my work-- the ones I write don't even have Gauri, they have the original Om heroine Ishana, and I like Soumya as Rudra's girl, and always will.

But I have not been asked to shut down my stories, nor has anyone reported me for not giving Om his Gauri or Rudra his ACP. Even though they are not canon, and definitely anti Rikara--in that there ISNT any Rikara-- I have not been banned. I have readers, and I know and love a lot of these readers, and have relationships and friendships with them through my work. I have never been asked to change a story line, or warn a reader.

Why cant the Rikara writers get that courtesy?


#respect 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: napstermonster

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">I thought about whether I would jump into this post at least 30 times before I decided to write this--so if you are reading this, please understand that I am very sure of my thoughts here, so take that as a given. And if this gets too real--so be it..</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">I am a writer, and I've been one for almost 8 years now--and written for two other shows aside from Ishqbaaz-- (Rangrasiya and IPKKND-1) so I speak from experience regarding writing, the fan fiction world and the audience for this kind of creative work. Also, not to blow my own horn--but I'm well known as a writer of fan fiction, for me this is a passion and not a hobby. I have a clear grasp of the audience, and the guidelines on India Forums. I know what I'm speaking of. I've stopped updating a lot of my stories here, as my friends left. The toxicity of this forum eroded my interest in publishing here, so I rarely visit.</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">
But no matter what-- I have never in my life heard of a fiction being banned because of how the writer is handling a character from the main serial story.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Never.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">From IPKKND days, Arnav- Khushi ---the original fan fiction subjects---- have been everything from a terrorist cell leader and his captive, to a gunda and his prostitute to a pre Partition couple torn between India-Pakistan. The only limitation to their stories has been the imagination of the writers--and ALL versions, where the villain is the hero, where the sisters are married to the "wrong" guy,-- ALL versions have been accepted, liked, and allowed to exist. If someone has a problem with the story line, that specific reader has simply put that writer on the mental list of "do not read" and moved on to find a story they do like. No harm, no foul.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">That is the implicit understanding of us writers, with you readers. You read it, you comment and like. You don't read it, or you don't like the work--the X button is right there, you close the work and you move on. Maybe you send the writer a PM telling her why her work stinks. Maybe you don't bother. But you don't ask for disclaimers, You dont think you own the fictional take on the characters we writers create, and you don't get a story banned!</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"></font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">I'm not into the Rikara fandom as a whole-- full disclosure. I feel there are certain members who are very bitter, and their bitterness comes through in their attitude to the main storyline of Ishqbaaz, which is, and will always be, Shivika. But they have had cause to be bitter, bhai. If you are going to be even remotely fair, admit to yourself, they do have cause for their anger towards the storyline and towards Gul--their couple went from leading their own show, to attractive wallpaper to vanwas, as it were, when there was a LOT of potential there.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">And these Rikara story potentials have come to life here, in their fan fiction. They have been on the front two pages of the Ishqbaaz forum with story after story for over 6 months now, because the Rikara fandom are actively FOLLOWING those stories, encouraging the Rikara writers, trying to find their own identity for their couple. And the writers are clearly responding to a demand, to their own need to tell their stories--they are trying to give Gauri and Om a voice and a journey and a love life that Gul and Co. have not given.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">If you dont like their couple, why the heck are you reading those stories? Don't they have the right to turn Shivaay into a monster or Anika into a drama queen, or Rudra into a vampire -- whatever -- in their alternate works? Works they are creating within their own posts, and discussing within that, that is not all over the forum? WHY would that be a problem for the rest of us? Do we not get our couple onscreen? Do we not have our own Shivika centric fan fiction writers?</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">I am an Ishqbaaz writer. I think anyone who has been on this site from the beginning would know--I am also a very passionate Shivika fan. But I've followed the series from Day 1, and so my writing is based on what I liked from way back when the serial had two different leading ladies and a sister for the brothers called Priyanka, and an ACP for that sister, too. So I'm writing fantasy fan fiction, mainly-- for characters who aren't even onscreen anymore. Rikara readers don't read my work-- the ones I write don't even have Gauri, they have the original Om heroine Ishana, and I like Soumya as Rudra's girl, and always will.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">But I have not been asked to shut down my stories, nor has anyone reported me for not giving Om his Gauri or Rudra his ACP. Even though they are not canon, and definitely anti Rikara--in that there ISNT any Rikara-- I have not been banned. I have readers, and I know and love a lot of these readers, and have relationships and friendships with them through my work. I have never been asked to change a story line, or warn a reader.
</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">
Why cant the Rikara writers get that courtesy?</font>




God bless you, man! Where have you been? I am still a arshi fan and came to this forum from dbo and rikara and I keep trying to tell these folks the same thing. They would all have a heart attack if they saw the kind of characterization arshi fanfics have for Arnav, Khushi, Akash, payal, buaji, Anjali, Shyam...aur yahaan it is so damn childish seeing fandom wars and reporting "rival fandom fanfics and posts. Iss show ko khatam karne koi baahar se aane ki zaroorat nahi, inke intolerance aur mahabharat mein hi ratings drop ho jaayen. Aur arhi fanfics are still so brilliant, they left gul far behind with their creativity and takes on the couple. So much so that gul even can not recreate the magic. Aur yahaan pata nahi, kuch bhi bolo, war shuru!
Thanks for being the voice of reason. And am going to hunt for your fanfics now. I need my daily fix of arhi to survive this forum:(
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Posted: 7 years ago
Just remembered something, actually this isnt the first time that a story was reported and blocked😊
some years back, when some fandom hated characters, they would write very bad things on these characters in the story in a very degrading and mocking way- point be they would take their revenge on those characters just for their sick pleasure... even then stories have been closed down😊- anyone can do and ask higher levels of mods who were here some 5yrs ago.

So it's not new.

i guess it depends on the mods to decide whether a story is really a piece of fiction or written just to denigrate characters they dont like... and frankly it's not that difficult to differentiate at all😊

anyway i will never understand why do some writers even write on characters that they hate just for some malicious pleasure of degrading the characters. why not ignore those characters?

Edited by Felicity1234 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Felicity1234

Just remembered something, actually this isnt the first time that a story was reported and blocked😊

some years back, when some fandom hated characters, they would write very bad things on these characters in the story in a very degrading and mocking way- point be they would take their revenge on those characters just for their sick pleasure... even then stories have been closed down😊- anyone can do and ask higher levels of mods who were here some 5yrs ago.

So it's not new.

i guess it depends on the mods to decide whether a story is really a piece of fiction or written just to denigrate characters they dont like... and frankly it's not that difficult to differentiate at all😊

anyway i will never understand why do some writers even write on characters that they hate just for some malicious pleasure of degrading the characters. why not ignore those characters?

it happened before😲 didn't know

bold thats the reason a story is closed and another isn't

even though the story is removed just read few comments and it is clearly there why the story is written

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Posted: 7 years ago
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