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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great post. The most funny thing is that recently when TRP gone down to 1.4-1.5, some people were so happy that IB will now shut down and lot of them claimed that they stopped watching it. Then CV introduced this KKR track and TRP increased suddenly, now same people ask for screen space and complain about the weird clothes and all.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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So I guess I fall in category 2- the fact that is that trp of ib are fluctuating, they are not constant for me the biggest turn off was the butchering of Rikara and their amazing love story, they were both unique and brought something different to the table, so yes I do want ib to go off air cus I just want shrenal to work in a better project they don't deserve the treatment they get on the show and nobody needs to be a Rikara fan to see the lack of ss they get and it's not just them but other crucial characters too are being sidelined.
The amount of villains being introduced makes no sense and as you correctly put it the groupbaazi is getting on people's nerves now there is no story and it's far from being the story of three brothers those that are still watching the show they've got patience

Great post btw!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: KALVIN

Great post. The most funny thing is that recently when TRP gone down to 1.4-1.5, some people were so happy that IB will now shut down and lot of them claimed that they stopped watching it. Then CV introduced this KKR track and TRP increased suddenly, now same people ask for screen space and complain about the weird clothes and all.

You see Kalvin, the more we complaint, we are going to get babaji ka tullu...
Eg: If I am going to constantly point out the same wrong/thing to my daughter, she is going to behave selective deaf towards me. Do I want it? No, I donot.

Thats precisely my point. IB script has gone through so much of changes - some sudden, some due to actor's unavailability & illness, some due to the complaints, some due to pressure from channel. Kuch had tak writers koshish kar sakte hai ki story haath se nikhal na jaaye... after that, it is very hard for them too, to tie the hanging ends, when they themselves would have lost count of it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: lizzy110

So I guess I fall in category 2- the fact that is that trp of ib are fluctuating, they are not constant for me the biggest turn off was the butchering of Rikara and their amazing love story, they were both unique and brought something different to the table, so yes I do want ib to go off air cus I just want shrenal to work in a better project they don't deserve the treatment they get on the show and nobody needs to be a Rikara fan to see the lack of ss they get and it's not just them but other crucial characters too are being sidelined.
The amount of villains being introduced makes no sense and as you correctly put it the groupbaazi is getting on people's nerves now there is no story and it's far from being the story of three brothers those that are still watching the show they've got patience

Great post btw!


Fluctuating TRP, IMO is due to many fans leaving the show because of the complaints. Its upto them to watch the show. Marketing ka zamana hai. You get so many products, its your wish to use which one you want.
I'm not a right person to make an comment about SS coz neither am i a writer, nor am I the actor nor the producer. besides, do you really think a production house will b waiting in queue to feature as leads in their next venture? If so, you are wrong. Yeh competition ka zamana hai.
On a different note, Shrenu and Kunal, to work in a better project, need not wait for IB to go off-air. The two things are independent on each other. It is their wish to be a part of this project. If not, they are always free to go. Thats how Indian Television Industry works.

Not many people are complaining about groupbaazi. Yes, people are complaining about unnecessary groupbaazi. Let me explain:
In the friday episode where the leads are present in the same in the frame, it is not groupbaazi. The scene needs it. Last week, for plotting against veer and Saumya after Saumya's exposure, all the 6 leads were needed in living room and Shivika's room. It was needed.
But, after Shivaay wins the auction of OM, the hug in a straight line was not needed. Obros could have hugged, followed by couples, then change of couples... It would have explained better, IMO.

Hope you get what I mean. If not, I am sorry, I am unable to make my point understand.

Besides, the thread is not to list down the complaints of each member, but how to deal with the complaints and more precisely, is it really necessary? Yeh aazaadi ki ladaai thodi hai jo aakhiri saans tak sangharsh karte rahenge! It isnt. So chill šŸ˜† What we get, we are going to get! So If we are not happy, noone is stopping us when we walk out, be it me or you. Isn't it?šŸ˜›
Edited by abhilashasharma - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Interesting post. I don't necessarily agree, but your points have been laid out nicely.

As for feeling happy about watching a show...that's a subjective thing. Discussion only spawns out of substance...can't speak for how the TRP audience thinks but they aren't the ones sitting in forums discussing this show...so why lament the lack of discussion in this forum then? Why should it matter at all, if as you say, TRP audiences are happy watching vapid "Devrani Jethaani bonding" in a mindless dragged out track?


Personally, I point out the the bits and pieces that make me happy in the middle of the rest of the mess...the time for sustained discussions is generally long gone for IB now...only returns once in a blue moon.


I frankly don't blame the lack of discussion in this forum at all since it's a combination of factors that has led to this forum being dead. Not sure if just telling ppl to accept it will necessarily motivate them to want to talk about the show when the show itself doesn't provide any substance.


What are we supposed to discuss? LOL that Anika's KRR accent appears and disappears in every other scene and that's such great "detective-giri"?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: yellomellow



You make some valid points, but honestly what annoys me is the dragging of nonsensical tracks then jump to something entirely different, which is even worse then the original track. I think the show would be more enjoyable if the CVS just completed a single track lol.


The CVS made a mess of Rudra's love story. Saumya was written two weeks into DBO and then Bhavya stood in the background with no dialogue for months before she written off as well. She returns and she is getting married without a single heart-to-heart with Rudra. Clearly they have no idea how to progress Ruvya. The age issue was resolved between them. It doesn't seem like the CVS have anything planned for Rudra it looks like he'll get married to Bhavya and that's it for him story-wise (same goes for Bhavya). I prefer Rumya, but the fact they don't even get to make a decision about their own wedding is ridiculously sad.


The CVS can always go back. Characters flip all the time. Tia was smirking and plotting against Shvika, but now she wants to protect them lol. Also if Veer can be an Oberoi and Saumya randomly a Kapoor then Rumya can still happen because there is no logic or consistency at all šŸ˜† Rumya not happening has nothing to do with the story it's because the CVS want Bhavya to be the endgame. It's their show so it's their choice.



Rudy's love story was messed up way back...I doubt most ppl were even expecting anything there anymore...then why the need to bring Sumo back? For this? To show random flips of her now giving OTT evil looks, screaming at Anika, being nonchalant about Anika's death?


As the TM said, TRP audience probably has the memory of a goldfish and can't remember anything from one epi to the next so they're all "what's next" about this but then a certain TRP audience also exists for character connect...that TRP audience has summarily rejected Rudy's so called love story with Bhavya since ages.


The show right now is in a LONG phase of adding insult to injury since more than 2 months now...nobody cares about RB's shaadi, but that keeps getting dragged on...there is zero connect b/w the characters there, that keeps getting dragged on...the KM raaz promoted as "har raat kayaamat" shows no signs of being shown, Veer is now randomly Shivaay's cousin...and TM still says we should have happy discussions here? For what, man? šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


Jis din ek THELE ki sense ka kuch dikhaayenge, tab karenge na "happy discussion"?


As far as I can tell, the few stray good Shivika scenes do get their due in this forum with posts made by ppl...the rest of the storyline anyways has nothing to it so what are ppl supposed to comment about?


If only we had goldfish memories like the TRP audience supposedlyšŸ˜†...


All the various fandoms of the show are beyond tired of the mindlessness...hence the lack of "happy discussion" now...even for the Shivika fandom which generally has the least butchered story in this show.


And who is denying that IB is still better than a majority of the crap on Indian TV...mainly cuz of it's cast especially NM-SC imo who make it worth the while...but that doesn't mean ppl should be yapping about epis which have nothing to them simply for the sake of "acceptance".
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

Interesting post. I don't necessarily agree, but your points have been laid out nicely.

As for feeling happy about watching a show...that's a subjective thing. Discussion only spawns out of substance...can't speak for how the TRP audience thinks but they aren't the ones sitting in forums discussing this show...so why lament the lack of discussion in this forum then? Why should it matter at all, if as you say, TRP audiences are happy watching vapid "Devrani Jethaani bonding" in a mindless dragged out track?


Personally, I point out the the bits and pieces that make me happy in the middle of the rest of the mess...the time for sustained discussions is generally long gone for IB now...only returns once in a blue moon.


I frankly don't blame the lack of discussion in this forum at all since it's a combination of factors that has led to this forum being dead. Not sure if just telling ppl to accept it will necessarily motivate them to want to talk about the show when the show itself doesn't provide any substance.


What are we supposed to discuss? LOL that Anika's KRR accent appears and disappears in every other scene and that's such great "detective-giri"?

AY, I am always in multiple mindsets, that too from numerous angles at the end of each episode. But finally, a question is always there - can you do anything to change it? Answer is always no. Yes, I try to ignore some episodes, but out of habit watch it out later and wait for @ bold. Thats y, I am not able to get out of IB zone.

My point is not lack of discussion in the forum. I know the reason for this and the series of event too. But, honestly do we need only good substance to discuss? C'mon, we are good in trolling even the face-palming things in an entertaining way, just like CVs do it to us always. My point is , why cant we do that? Rimi does fulfill my daily dose 😳

I am fan of Rani's post! But it hardly appears nowadays, may be because she is busy or may be she moved out because of her constant closing of the topic because of foreign contamination, may I say (Really 😲 what sort of phrase is that?🤣 THinking of trolling itself creates hatke phrases in my mind) This is what I miss, basically.. As it is said by CVs, Expect the Unexpected. I say like it is said - This too shall pass. Dont ask me, when? šŸ˜†

It is not to make people feel positive, but no use in filing chargesheet one after other, when no action is going to be taken?
Edited by abhilashasharma - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: abhilashasharma



My point is not lack of discussion in the forum. I know the reason for this and the series of event too. But, honestly do we need only good substance to discuss? C'mon, we are good in trolling even the face-palming things in an entertaining way, just like CVs do it to us always. My point is , why cant we do that? I am fan of Rani's post! But it hardly appears nowadays, may be because she is busy or may be she moved out because of her constant closing of the topic because of foreign contamination, may I say (Really 😲 what sort of phrase is that?🤣 THinking of trolling itself creates hatke phrases in my mind) This is what I miss, basically.. As it is said by CVs, Expect the Unexpected. I say like it is said - This too shall pass. Dont ask me, when? šŸ˜†


LOL oh but I agree with that...see I think some of us realized this about IB way back...good or bad, the phases never last very long...lol like I was enjoying the Vanvaas epis so much for almost two weeks and ofcourse it had to be cut short after that and switch gears into other nonsense...now we are in nonsense mode since almost 3 weeks...lol so this too shall pass ultimately, I don't doubt it...


But we are humans at the end of the day and patience wears thin...I now surmise that even ranting is pointless and if there's something good, enjoy it, baaki this isn't worth raising your BP over. Still some days are crappier than others and I too end up ranting...like Friday's epi was utter SHIT for me even though I was fine more or less with the rest of the week's epis.


As for trolling posts? LOL are you really asking this seeing the level of restrictions in this forum now? Independent thought is hardly welcomešŸ˜†...I get my trolling dose on Twitter now...cuz that is the only place free speech is relatively allowed...IF tohšŸ˜†...do ppl even have a sense of humor here anymore? llolšŸ˜†


So then what's left to discuss on IF? Substance epis only na...where you can do detailed analysis of the once in a blue moon substance scenes...but aaj kal those are also in very short supply.


I get the general intention of your post, trust me I do...some days even I wonder why ppl fixate on that that is long lost and won't be fixed and don't value that which is still good in the show...i.e. Shivika...but I guess everyone has their days, what to do...I can happily zone out things I don't like as long as I get some substance waale Shivika...more than happy to yap thenšŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
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AY.. I mean Anu (thats your name, if I am not wrong) Love you for the above šŸ¤—

Reg discussions in IF nowadays, it is tangential. bin mausam ke barsaat ki tarah.. kab tapak padta hai, pata nahin chalta šŸ˜†
Edited by abhilashasharma - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhilashasharma


They always do this. When we want the plot to be long, they end it with crisp short (phukat raja track) when we want it to end soon, they stretch it for a relatively long time (Pinky's arc, Tia's exposure, now Ravan track)

You're right this is ishqbaaaz. Randomness, villains overdose, and no closure. It's sad now that most of the time the characters don't even have dialogues and just give expressions.


@Red: Completely agree. The beauty and step-step walk which they should in Shivika journey, they did not show in either Om or Rudra journey in their love. Atleast they showed in Om's story of Om-Gauri interaction (even if Gauri was Chulbul )for a long time (but relatively long time) atleast the interaction was there on a private level. In Rudra's case, its like they had created dots, suddenly we find it connected, then all of a sudden, there is a picture man !!! How did it become and picture and when was it drawn? No answer. But, we cant sit on the thing which did not happen, even if it should have happened or meant to happen. Atleast, I hope, they should Rudra-Bhavya interaction after marriage, which they did not show in Om-Gauri after their reconciliation. Lets wait and c what the CVs are going to throw at us this time šŸ˜†


CVS completely wrote Rikara off after the confession. All that talk from the CVS about Om's passionate love story and we got nothing, but group scenes. That's what's in store for Rudra and Bhavya because it seems like the CVS haven't thought of a single thing past the wedding, which is probably it's been delayed this long.


Since Gul has proclaimed in public that its Bhavya, its going to be Bhavya, unless some miraculous person (like Channel, may be) step it to change the storyline. Thats what I can say. Even I too like Saumya.. par kya karein?

Honestly, I tried to like her character in DBO. The ACP concept was interesting, but the writing was too ridiculous and the character was constantly flipping to appease the TRP audience. One minute she was the strong ACP fighting goons then the next she was getting saved by dumbell Oberoi. I gave up on Rudra's love story a long time ago. Rudra is just there to make funny comments. Bhavya runs around being silly and now the new Saumya glares into the camera. That's it for all of them sadly.

@bold I only mentioned it because you said they can't go back. They can, but they don't want to.




Edited by yellomellow - 7 years ago

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