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Posted: 7 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: AreYaar



Thanks!


@bold: So.Much.Word...that's exactly what today was...you serve something on a platter to ppl all your life, they will still complain the one time the dish wasn't tasty enough and blast you for not roasting it properly...The selfishness and insecurity of Jhanvi really came to the fore through this turn of events...trying times bring out different sides in ppl...this is what came out of Jhanvi...a petty and ruthless mother who demanded her pound of flesh from the one person who has always been expected to get anything done in this family...and now he is the only one who must pay the price of failure too...as decreed by the Jhanvi court of "justice"😆


I also mainly felt bad for Pinky compared to Jhanvi...that was the real irony today...lol Pinky absolutely said the truth no matter how bitter it was...while Jhanvi who's claimed to be the fair and "classier" one compared to Pinky all these years proved that she's no less petty at the end of the day.


Ru is in the PROCESS of growing up I'd say...let's hope he gets there this time.



agreed..
Pinky was always bashed in the family for being blunt, bad-tameez and greedy, but today Janvi cameout as same.. even Greedier! Pinky was WHATEVER but she was on face!
Janvi actually used her right of 'Bari-Maa' unfairly... He tried to be her 'Son' but sadly she failed at being a 'Mother'


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Posted: 7 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

i saw these caps again on twitter and just had to post

yeah sure i mean this is what all dushmans do no??



this is how this dushman shielded jhanvi ke children when she herself left them on tej ki mercy and without a second thought set herself

honestly this is the perfect case of being ehsaan faramosh




up on fire knowing what tej was capable of doing with her children

there were countless events when Shivaay emerged as Savior for Tej's family..

but sadly there was a quote like this
No-one would remember 100 things you did for them!
But they will definitely never forget that 1 thing you did not do for them..
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Posted: 7 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Manisha.



Neither Om and SHivaay can be compared nor Jhanvi and Pinky can be compared...

Om never held the position that Shivaay held...May it be providing financial security or emotional strength...He has mostly been absorbed in his own personal problems...Rising above that to keep the family unit together seem far fetched at this point in time...
Even if Om leaves the family, it is not going to impact the family like it will with Shivaay leaving...And every member knows that...And we see it happening...

There are some people who have the capability to take charge and thats not in Om's nature...Hence Shivaay is the nucleus of the family...And for being that he definitely needs to be given the benefit of doubt, especially when contradictions in his behaviour are so glaringly visible...




Exactly. From day one, Shivaay has been called the neenv of this family by everyone for a reason...because he is the only one who's shown the capability of handling that responsibility and rising above internal rifts that everyone else succumbs to...he's the only one who's had the abillity to compartmentalize his emotions like that since day one and see the bigger picture for the sake of the family...in a sense, Daadi takes advantage of the fact that he has that capability too and never even expects the other sons to step up to the plate...no one else in this family seems equipped to do that and no one seems interested in even trying to step up to the plate.


Hence the panic at the mere thought of Shivaay leaving.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli



yes it was so evident ke he is raised by shivaay the mannerisms were way too similar and he is shivaay ka saaya ru main shivaay dikhta hai he also tries to keep the family together in his own way whenever situation gets tough or used too he would crack a stupid joke caz he valued it too . this is another thing ke he never got a chance to really stand up like shivaay kyonki chance nahi mila beside zaroorat nahi thi when shivaay was there. i am so excited to see where we go ab . ru will not deny anything his brother said i have a feeling he will try to own up now jaise bhi yeh it will be tough for him but because bhaiya ka word is last word ru will be a revelation and i hope he is 😳😃 i also have to say it aaj ke SHivRU is the best brothers bond i have seen on desi tv and i have seen plenty of such family dramas but nothing quite like ShivRu they are PRECIOUSSS



+1 to this


again this his frustration him calming himself but then not being able too his pyar wali daant where he isn't mad at rudy really but still and ru knows it too

and ofcourse the hug


he is shaking too while he is trying to still be the shield for ru . a strong support it loosk liek he is giving ru the strength the support but watch him stumble when ru hugged him yeah that is how fragile he is right now and the hug is actually a support he needed in that moment instead of the other way round it was impossible for him to stand another sec he would've collapsed



Wordd about the ShivRu bond...I've always had a soft corner for them...Rudy's hero worship of him and Shivaay literally treating him like his little baby...and then Anika came into the mix and just added another layer to that equation with the special affection Rudy reserves for her as an extension of his Shivaay bhaiyya :)
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Posted: 7 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: _Avatarana_



But can't help saying it's only Dadi's dream to have a united joint family which Shivay has willingly 'inherited ' if I may say.
I guess Tej and Bhangi will be more than happy to disown the OTHER family who they don't consider their own.

Dil se, the families have never been united. Its just a physical disintegration now. Iam talking of the ELDERS that make OM a house and not a home.
Were it a home for these four children, Shivay wouldn't have had to be the one to shoulder the responsibility to sort their issues petty or serious, Om wouldn't have had to resort to drugs, Priyanka wouldn't have been the individual lacking self-confidence. Shivay has this Iam the big brother, I'll sort it all attitude. Somewhere he has also grown up too fast beyond hus age and never had the chance to be the young child/boy and act/live his age. He is lucky he can be all that with Anika for she brings out the child in him.

Iam waiting to see an emotional Shivika scene ir hus ultimate breakdown SANS nashe ki effects. Would love it.

ShivRu hug reminded me of Srk-Hr from K3G.



@bold: Word...Shivaay has deffo had to grow up fast beyond his years in order to live up to fulfilling Daadi's dream that no one else seemed emotionally equipped or willing to handle...and yes, he's lucky he found Anika to unlock that repressed child inside him and help him live life again without constantly weighed down by the multitude of responsibilities he's taken on...


I think we are all waiting for that emotional Shivika scene before they leave...hopefully it's a good one...a lot has unraveled since they last spoke one on one...I want to see how Anika approaches him and if he manages to confide/breakdown


ShivRu hug was deffo meant to be reminiscent of the K3G one...ironically usmein Hrithik was playing the younger brother...aur yahaan pe Anika ka Hrithik Mr. Billu SRK banaa hua tha😆


One really striking thing about that scene to me is how this hulking brute of a guy that Rudy is becomes this lost little baby in front of his brother...head bowed, almost meek...the paradox of such a child-like heart/demeanor inside that wrestler jaisi body😆
Edited by AreYaar - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: shamyj

Always love your posts AY!

Brilliant episodes. I love this track. brilliant acting by all. NM as always stands out but Leenesh was just awesome...I cried and I don't cry easy!



Hey thanks so much! Yeah these epis packed quite the emotional punch...NM stood out the whole week but Lee really kicked it up a notch in the Friday epi👏



@Deep: Thanks yaar!
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Posted: 7 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: --Risha--

What a lovely episode and a really nice post, too. Would have commented earlier but been M.I.A. from the virtual IB world for some time 😆 Yesterday made me come back

This track's so well-constructed and I love how it's bringing about/will bring about Karmic justice for all characters (whom we care about) - Shivaay (forced wedding) and Pinki - for what they did to Annika. Tej and Jhanvi - for what they're doing to Shakti and esp Pinki (once Om returns) and basically the entire Oberoi clan for pushing all their problems on Shivaay.

As for people looking for logic - what to say? There was no logic to Annika leaving and there's no logic here but it's desi TV. Logic's always going to be a moot point. And people need to stop saying Shivaay isn't fighting. He's been trying to find out the truth - AND FAILING - which is why there's no choice but to do as Svet says. Also here's why I thought he can't tell them; he tells them and they admit to their kaand and then what happens? They're just going to look to Shivaay to fix things and he'll just have to do as Svet says. He won't be able to tell Svet he's told them the truth so the fam will have to put up a show which might've ended in the exact same way it's ending now. So, what's the point in telling jab sab kuch Shivaay ne hee solve kerna hai? 😆

I think family drama-wise, this has been the best week in IB and last epi was probably the best family drama episode ever. Everyone has been so tremendous but would like to specially mention NM and LM. Both have been amazing. MT and NA have been pretty fab, too.

Again, awesome post <3



Thanks, Risha!


@bold: Such a good point👏...to me, his frantic attempts to find a solution have been pretty evident by usual IB standards...the blackmail is an inevitability, always happens so no point getting fixated on that...beyond that, Shivaay has been shown trying to find a fix so that he can get rid of the leverage Svet has over him but he hasn't found anything in time so he's stuck.


And secondly, as you very well pointed out...even if he tells the family the reason, end result would still be the same...they would sit around waiting for him to fix things...lol...Tej will deny the video is true but that still won't take away the circumstantial evidence leverage Svet is using...Shivaay would still be in the same position.


Only thing it might have prevented was Jhanvi using her kasam this way...lol but the vanvaas has to happen...these would just be attempts to put bandaids on a long festering wound...atleast it's out in the open now where the whole family actually stands in terms of trust.


Word on this being the best week family drama wise for IB...before this we've had some epic family drama episodes but never something that lasted a whole week, so well built up...kudos to the team for this👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: ithihaas

AY,



NikitaJi, MT, Mreenal and Lee in the last scene today portrayed outburst owing to the situation...
But NM had that controlled yet crumbling look all through this week ...the only one time he let his emotions flow was when he almost begged his Badi Ma to allow her to meet his Bade Papa and also when he shouted on Rudy to under stand the situation...

I will tell you why NM stood out for me...he didn't have that outburst like other characters...when you potraying those outbursting emotions with words, actions you can add depth and variations and perform them...
every one who has seen Shivaay has felt his helplessness, his anger, his love for family, his frustration at not being hold his family together and many more...
So many emotions that Shivaay as a character went through...
NM had to perform all these emotions in a very controlled and subtle manner... That's where he stood out for me...
He is one actor who portrays emotions through eyes...he was standing there but his face and eyes expressed a lot of his current state of mind...

Hope I made sense with my words..



Completely agree! 👏 So sorry for the late reply, I just saw this post now...and you've again reminded me that I need to gif his expressions from the press conference scene cuz that was some masterful stuff from NM this week...as you very rightly pointed out, that balance of controlled crumbling he did...a very hard balance to strike but he performed it superbly ...so totally agree that it was more hard hitting because it wasn't the typical outburst where you can use words and actions to your advantage to play up the drama...but this UNRAVELING of Shivaay that we saw over the whole week was done so well by NM...what a week to follow his most recent set of best acting wins...as if he's decided he'll just prove over and over again why he very well deserved those awards this year👏😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovesick23



Agreed with everything you said but does it look like some calculated move on her part. No! It was an emotional move done to make sure that Tej does not become even more agitated. I don't think everyone takes Shivay for granted. It's just that Jhanvi Tej Pinky and Shakti have always been less cordial towards each other's children. I can assure you had it been om in place of Shivay Pinky would have done worse and not even because her husband had a heart attack!


Ok first of all she is suppose to be the elder of this family and her response to the entire situation reeked off her insecurities and showed us how weak she is. This was really the time to keep the family together and not discard the anchor of this family. After everything shivaay has done, he should not even need to give a reason for behavior. Even a moron could see shivaay didn't mean anything and jhanvi should not need a reason any more to trust shivaay. Shivaay has done enough to earn and expect that level of trust from this family. Her response was not that of an elder. It was of a selfish woman who finally showed her true colors and now it is out in open that she never considered shivaay as an her own son despite of how much she claimed in past. This moment was the test of that claim and she failed it miserably in step 1. Atleast pinky is honest about her feelings and actions. So far omkara is concerned, it is not pinky who is in question here , it is the so called 'classy' jhanvi. Pinky has never claimed to love omru. Yea she would have probably thrown out omkara for this but that's pinky and she has never claimed that omru are her sons too unlike jhanvi who has directly or indirectly depended on shivaay her whole life. Plus as I mentioned before shivaay is the anchor of this family and I can easily say that no one has done so much as shivaay to keep this crazy family together. Today he was insulted and his foundations were shaken just because jhanvi didn't get to know the reason? If that does not show how weak minded and insecure she is then I don't know what does and that is what brought on this response. It was not something out of concern for tej but it was due to he insecurities and selfish nature. I really want karma to give her what she deserves. Hopefully she will learn what is it like to live without love and protection of shivaay.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: -AppleOfMaEye-

Its Shivaay's mistake.. Why he became elder of the family when others were 'SUTAFYING' in some corner [mention to Omkara and Janvi] Omkara aint that much younger than Shivaay but only Shivaay presented himself as the shield for house.. he should have had asked Tej for his 'kartooot' and i REALLY WISH in future Tej is proved a culprit for the fire in factory.. he needs to taste the Karma big time



LOL I have a feeling Tej won't turn out to be the culprit for the KM fire...haha they will want to play up the irony that Shivaay protected them so much and they thought the worst of him😆😆...It's IB waalon ki fav. thing to prove Oberois "innocent" in the end...otherwise the family will regardless be torn apart if TSO goes to jail...stocks gir jaayenge😆😆

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