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Posted: 7 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: BhataktiAtma.

hi Sanya 😊 and agree with what you said you remember my rants in your FF thread this is were it comes from at times I might come across as anti Shivaay but I am not I love that guy but he tends to piss me off to no extent with the stunts like this everytime mind you everytime I start coming along he ends up doing something like this and I keep waiting now Anika will have enough and she'll finally say something and question him but no she doesn't. I mean more then that girl I feel the insults which are hurled at her but she doesn't since she soo understanding and trusting even if Shivaay and family had time and again proved that they do not deserve this kind of blind faith and understanding and more than one occasion has failed her chalo in their opinion Shivaay is suffering from memory loss and it could be injuries to his health if they say something to him about Anika and his marriage to her but what about Tanya why are they not saying something to her during sargi time and then that woman dared to try and brake Anika's fast in front of them and they were silent not a word from a single person present there bhai (fake) memory loss Shivaay ka hua hai aao logon ka nahin. And Anika Devi toh mashallah instead of calling out Tanya for her antics she is playing along there is no anger for anyone neither for Shivaay who was also present there by the way and cheering up for Tanya's nautanki and asking Anika to have it knowing fully well that she is fasting for him nor for Tanya or anyone for that matter. Does she even feel anything anymore ? Kya se kya bana diya ladki k character ko I really miss old Anika who knew how to take stand and yet be respectful show the person their rightful place and yet not cross that line. Though she was playful, funny and crazy even then there was certain maturity in her, dignity and grace in her which now a days seems to be missing. I really miss that old Anika. Tell me something why is Shivaay so cordial with Tanya once in a while it will be nice to see him stop being so nice to her and give her some peace of his mind but naa. There is so much I want to say but at the moment my thoughts are so scattered. I don't Anika is so okay and cool with it if I would have been at her place would have long back dumped the guy for good and refuse to return till I see some improvement in him and he learns to respect me and our relation in the right way.


Helloo😆
I very well remember!
I think we will never be able to understand the Shivaay or Annika clearly because they change their characters way too much!
I don't like this super sweet, romantic, giggling-all-the-time Shivaay. I want SSO, who had enough brains to make a fool proof plan to destroy Annika once. That was a sharp mind I really liked, not this one, who is playing hide and seek with his so called wife, whom he loves to humiliate at the drop of a hat, whom he hurts again and again and instead of apologizing, just forgets about it.
Same goes with Annika. I was a huge Annika fan and all I wanted was for her to grow a spine and do something (that's why I ended up writing KPKM😆 ). This one is still a doormat, who is satisfied with the hidden cheek rubs and sudden kisses instead on focusing on the real matters. I get it, romance is important but not all the time. Atm, they should focus on Tanya and who is her partner. If they had the time, which they had, they could've followed Tanya and caught Abhay by now. Shivaay hasn't even hired a detective or even Khanna ji to follow Tanya, why? If he knows that I will be busy in celebrating KC with my newly wed wife (which is ok), I should send someone to keep a close eye on my biggest enemy of the day?
That's why villains land up straight inside of their house, so darn easily. Swetlana, Tia, Tia's mom, Gayatri, Abhay, Tanya, Ragini, etc etc etc.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Helloo😆
I very well remember!
I think we will never be able to understand the Shivaay or Annika clearly because they change their characters way too much!
I don't like this super sweet, romantic, giggling-all-the-time Shivaay. I want SSO, who had enough brains to make a fool proof plan to destroy Annika once. That was a sharp mind I really liked, not this one, who is playing hide and seek with his so called wife, whom he loves to humiliate at the drop of a hat, whom he hurts again and again and instead of apologizing, just forgets about it.
Same goes with Annika. I was a huge Annika fan and all I wanted was for her to grow a spine and do something (that's why I ended up writing KPKM😆 ). This one is still a doormat, who is satisfied with the hidden cheek rubs and sudden kisses instead on focusing on the real matters. I get it, romance is important but not all the time. Atm, they should focus on Tanya and who is her partner. If they had the time, which they had, they could've followed Tanya and caught Abhay by now. Shivaay hasn't even hired a detective or even Khanna ji to follow Tanya, why? If he knows that I will be busy in celebrating KC with my newly wed wife (which is ok), I should send someone to keep a close eye on my biggest enemy of the day?
That's why villains land up straight inside of their house, so darn easily. Swetlana, Tia, Tia's mom, Gayatri, Abhay, Tanya, Ragini, etc etc etc.
@red don't say that Sanya for writer madam audience want SSO means insulting of Anika by him and showing khali fokat ki tadi that is all she understands for her it doesn't mean showing logical and smart and intelligent Shivaay who is using his smartness on his enemies distruction instead of destroying only Anika. For her SSO means NKK believer who is ever understanding , trusting and respecting to people who have it but his lawfully wedded wife Anika he would not provide the courtesy. I'll rather watch this Shivaay then watch him insult and belittle Anika once again.

@blue no he plays only hide with Anika his wife and humiliate karne ke liye bhi Anika hi hai seek k liye aur respect ke liye toh Tia, Ragini and Taniya ye sab hai na.

Seriously where is the girl who quit her job when insulted by Shivaay during chip fiasco. Security ki toh baat hi mat karo it's a joke. People say he takes stand for her, cares for her etc etc true and agree but he does not do it when it is really needed and is time to shine and prove a point that is way now when he does it all falls flat and all his actions and words ends up looking khokhla

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Posted: 7 years ago
#23
After watching today's epi, is serial ka abh kuch nahi ho saktha! 😕

Am resigned to just watching SC/NM scenes where they are able to connect to their characters (recently there have been scenes where even they don't seem convinced of the storyline).
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Posted: 7 years ago
#24
Shivaay backtracking on Annika was something I never understood. Its like he has some bipolar personality disorder or something. One moment lovey dovey fussing over her and the next moment throwing her out of the house. But it requires two to tango. Annika is the most pathetic one. No women on earth can behave the way she does under such circumstances. I don't watch IB with my Mom anymore, not because of the romance but the disrespect they show to marital vows and marriage as a constitution. I find it embarrassing. I don't know how they expect trps like this when the trp audience might find it quite disgraceful.

Imagine if the rest of their lives follows the same pattern. The writer created them so she has the right and is allowed to destroy them as characters. Its her call to make. But all this is leaving such a bad taste in mouth. Its only because of Narbhi that I take in the scenes that I can relate to and then delete the ones I dont understand from my system.

Scenes are same and the reactions of the characters are also same. And they call it a reboot. Lets see how long we can survive these reboots.
Edited by closet - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Helloo😆
I very well remember!
I think we will never be able to understand the Shivaay or Annika clearly because they change their characters way too much!
I don't like this super sweet, romantic, giggling-all-the-time Shivaay. I want SSO, who had enough brains to make a fool proof plan to destroy Annika once. That was a sharp mind I really liked, not this one, who is playing hide and seek with his so called wife, whom he loves to humiliate at the drop of a hat, whom he hurts again and again and instead of apologizing, just forgets about it.
Same goes with Annika. I was a huge Annika fan and all I wanted was for her to grow a spine and do something (that's why I ended up writing KPKM😆 ). This one is still a doormat, who is satisfied with the hidden cheek rubs and sudden kisses instead on focusing on the real matters. I get it, romance is important but not all the time. Atm, they should focus on Tanya and who is her partner. If they had the time, which they had, they could've followed Tanya and caught Abhay by now. Shivaay hasn't even hired a detective or even Khanna ji to follow Tanya, why? If he knows that I will be busy in celebrating KC with my newly wed wife (which is ok), I should send someone to keep a close eye on my biggest enemy of the day?
That's why villains land up straight inside of their house, so darn easily. Swetlana, Tia, Tia's mom, Gayatri, Abhay, Tanya, Ragini, etc etc etc.
@red don't say that Sanya for writer madam audience want SSO means insulting of Anika by him and showing khali fokat ki tadi that is all she understands for her it doesn't mean showing logical and smart and intelligent Shivaay who is using his smartness on his enemies distruction instead of destroying only Anika. For her SSO means NKK believer who is ever understanding , trusting and respecting to people who have it but his lawfully wedded wife Anika he would not provide the courtesy. I'll rather watch this Shivaay then watch him insult and belittle Anika once again.

@blue no he plays only hide with Anika his wife and humiliate karne ke liye bhi Anika hi hai seek k liye aur respect ke liye toh Tia, Ragini and Taniya ye sab hai na.

Seriously where is the girl who quit her job when insulted by Shivaay during chip fiasco. Security ki toh baat hi mat karo it's a joke. People say he takes stand for her, cares for her etc etc true and agree but he does not do it when it is really needed and is time to shine and prove a point that is way now when he does it all falls flat and all his actions and words ends up looking khokhla

@ BOLD I don't know what to call her anymore. Doormats might not react but occasionally feels bad and emote pain while accepting their fate. Here tho it is completely different raita altogether.
Edited by Santhi_40 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ Pearl..A big Thank you for the beautiful post.. As always bang on 👏
I am missing your rant more than the lost Shivika now a days..Slowly accepting that they wont be back.. But please "pinky promise" that you won't forsake us and continue with your rants until we get rid of the addiction thy name called Shivika or more I say Narbhi.😉
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Posted: 7 years ago
#27
Asya di,

The characters were altered before. Now they are assassinated. Enough said! How very true

Want to add, I was always wary of marriages (too young to be thinking about it though 😆 but this show has completely put me off it. Dear Priya ... this show is not even a shade of what real marriages are supposed to be ... please do not use this show or what is written in it as your yardstick to measure ... the woman writing the script has no inkling or clue of what a marriage truly is and what a relationship should be ... there are many happily married woman, including myself, who will vouch that marriage is beautiful and fulfilling relationship provided you do not use IB as your guide for it 😊


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Posted: 7 years ago
#28
I get you totally asya😳 You always do dear 😊

Even I was ranting about last week's nonsense episodes, especially where SSO was concerned!
Sorry but even I didn't see one single regret or pain from SSO for hurting his wife last week!
The part where annika had to beg, remind him of his promises and finally say ILU and show her pain to get a response from SSO clearly indicated that SSO didn't really care how much he was hurting her! Yep!!! and writer saheba keeps making him say he cannot bear to see tears in her eyes ... kya joke hai!!
Character himself is lacking the conviction of his own words now 😆

The writer completely lost me since pinky's supposedly torture arc and shivika's separation! Then itself she already started the destruction of shivika's growth, to the tadi- marriage track which was utter crap and now this! Oh! God ... that Vikram-Ragini track was beyond painful not so much for the other two but for ShivIka playing their FNP and Dard games all over again

I feel that SSO's room should be burnt down now! lol ... that would purify it for sure🤣
Forget Kalyani Mills ka aag .. ShivIka bedroom mein aag will be next track 😆😆

And I also agree the writer has made marriage a mockery now, all why?! Just to stall shivika's SR and no other purpose at all! Not only ShivIka ... she has made a mockery of Abhay and Tanya's marriage as well ... what is with the Oberoi men ill-treating their wives and abusing them verbally and physically!!??
Does the writer think this is how men show that they are virile and commanding?? It is weak men who would abuse a woman not strong ones. Again the writer has a twisted idea of what real men are

But do they care? They don't! In their arrogance they completely destroyed IB with zero story and now to save IB we are getting even more nonsensical tracks! lol ... it is a circus now and Rudy's office mannequin proves that there are clowns everywhere 😆😆

I wonder what exactly is the writer proud about?! Remove narbhi from shivika, and IB would have sunk long time ago! These two are the only saving grace in her rubbish arcs and stories now! True but even they cannot create magic out of a crappy plot and sloppy writing that contradicts itself 😆😆

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: asya34

He announced ,"Tanya meri wife hai", with his arms around the woman and his head held high, no hesitation, remorse or even a stutter in his voice. Amazing!!!


Don't you know he did it for his family? What if he had not done that and the other Oberoi would have revealed the fire raaz and then the whole business would have gone down and I suppose we would have been happy with that.😲


There is nothing left to destroy in this beautiful man who held his commitments and his promises in the highest of regard. For whom Family came first and he had reiterated to her that 'She Was Family' on numerous occasions. He swore all happiness and respect would be hers from now on and the writer stripped that man of all this with him saying that one statement that day.
She might as well have killed my Shivvay for what she made him do. The forced wedding was nothing compared to this blatant disowning of the woman he swore to love and honor.

I don't even want to get started at the forced wedding thing. It is so sexy and such a drool-worthy thing to see our men basking in the glory of that demeaning masculinity. Uttering tumhe abhi bhi nahi pata hai ki main kya hoon aur kaya kar sakta hoon. I so would want to experience all that you can do to me. I go all jelly kneed the minute I see my hero travel down that road of criminality. 👏 Such a nayo soch it is.
For a man who claims to not be able to see tears in her eyes he sure knows how to rip her heart out and give it , still beating, in her hands while he mocks their sacred marriage vows, without even flinching. Yet again she is sacrificed at the Family Altar though he claimed that 'Naam, Khoon and Khandan' did not matter to him. Yet again she is satisfied with being sacrificed and has been praised for not even wanting to understand why it is that she is expendable time and again.

Kudos to the writer for such a sorry script. It is obvious from this how much she cares for the show and its viewers.

Is it a sorry script? Why dont you go write the script then hmm. Go get a life.


Today we watched 'Karva Chauth' between ShivIka and the majority 'Ohh-ed' and 'aahh-ed' as the writer once again wrapped romance around the fact that he disowned her just a few days ago.
Didnt you see the nayi soch here the wife made the husband drink water first. You guys just cant appreciate, only crib.

Then the writer gives a scene where Annika takes the lead in the bathroom and we are supposed to applaud her for 'Nayi Sooch' I suppose. This is the extent to her forward thinking as a writer I guess, whereas honoring the institution of marriage and a wife's respect is not constituted as forward thinking. I suppose for her marriage is a jaded institution and respecting the sanctity of that relationship is a passe concept.


Annika used to be a self-respecting, forward thinking woman before the writer turned her into this alien who feels nothing. The writer has reduced this forward thinking woman in front of the media to a woman staying at OM who is NOT shivvay's wife and we are supposed to find the scene cute between this supposedly committed couple now. We are being asked to identify with them as a married couple that take their vows seriously.

Wow I so pity you because you cant see how committed Anika is. She is so strong that she can endure any amount of bull shit in the name of holy matrimony and for her undying love. She can even be blackmailed to leave her husband in tatters for his own good. Then come back with a bang and parade a new fiance out from the cover of a magazine. We have some great busines families in the ishqbaazi world.

Is it just me who is not finding this cute and funny??
How am I supposed to enjoy my ShivIka scenes when the man has not even been sensitive enough to address the issue of her being disowned and is flippantly teasing if she thought he was going to write Tanya's name on the card...
That is supposed to be sensitive and funny to your wife you just refused to acknowledge being married to a few days ago!!??? At this point I would think he would take the initiative and address the issue whether she wants to listen or not if he truly respected and loved her.


And Annika instead of threatening that she will rain fire and brimstone on him if he had written Tanya's name is saying she will have a go at Tanya, knowing fully that Tanya is only blackmailing him and is not remotely interested in him!!??
I would think she would ask him 'why would you write Tanya's name if according to you she is only blackmailing you? Is there something else going on that I am not aware of??'
Is this for real or are we so dumb that we find this real!!

Does the writer remember this that she wrote not to long ago!?? It was written to show Shivvay disowning his wife to the public, through the media, and announcing Tanya as his legally married wife.
He ripped his Izzat and his wife's to shred as an Oberoi because this was the same man who had, just 15 days prior to announcement, invited the whole media to witness his wedding to Annika with his whole Oberoi Clan present. I could almost see Ragini and Vikram snickering over their cocktails somewhere watching this on the news and Daksh grinning gleefully at the public humiliation Annika had to suffer, yet again, at Shivvay's hands.

Shivay is that rich billionaire who can get married so many times in his life with other women and every time he ends up with Anika again. Magic you see how cool is that.


The mockery she has made of ShivIka marriage has been forgotten by the teenage fangirls with the ShivIka romance lollipop that she has given them to suck on. This is the extent of her responsibility as a woman who is in the position to influence and mold young minds

While the above was written in a sarcastic tone, here I seriously don't believe that our teenage girls are that naive to not be able to differentiate between reel and real. I believe they know that this is all crap and they watch the show more for the actors than for the story. Unfortunately, our television makes a consistent mockery of viewers and I strongly believe that the viewers mock it with equal force. These fan wars or fan worships don't look serious to me at all. It actually looks like a misuse of the privilege of anonymity granted by the internet. I want to credit my teenagers much more than being naive to be influenced by crap.

Rumya marriage gave me doubts, it being brushed off to end Runya made me upset and now bringing Tanya in is downright disgusting train of thought for a woman who claims to fight for women's rights and applaud them for standing up for themselves.

This is what the writer wrote as a script - not me, so anyone who wants to bash at this post please address remarks to 'Harneetsin' at twitter. I am merely pointing out the fact that is as obvious as the nose on your face.


Besides that, as Ruzz so astutely pointed out, he is harboring criminals and shielding them IF they did indeed cause the fire and were responsible for it. And Shivvay doing it is even understandable but Annika so calmly falling in with the plans makes me wonder if she has a conscience left?? Did she not come from the same background that those poor workers were? How could she not for a moment think about the orphans or children of those workers?
Because writer saheba does not think like her character. The focus and obsession is only Shivvay and his character.

Tanya was brought in as wife to keep an eye on ShivIka 24/7 so that they do not conspire ... well we can already see that it is humanly impossible to keep an eye on someone who 'knows' you are keeping an eye on them. The writer has cancelled out her own justification of announcing Tanya as his wife.


Did Shivvay not sleep outside the room all night??
How did the writer think she was going to pull off Shivvay and Tanya in one room with this 'She needs to be married to him to keep an eye on him' bull-crap she fed us. So technically Shivvay and Annika could have spent the whole night together conspiring and formulating a plan while Tanya slept peacefully on their marriage bed.
I find it sick that there have been 'n' number of women, other than his wife, sharing that bed and bedroom but somehow the writer finds it very casual that they do so ...lol
Hmmm... I feel a 'My Dear Diary' page being written here 😉😆😆

It is gets clearer and clearer that we forget that announcement with all the romance and comedy she is covering it up with while she has gone and insulted the very relationship that has identified ShivIka. If these are not to be constituted as contorted disturbing dark fantasies imagined by the writer then I do not know what is.

Tanya could have been brought into the OM as any other person - wife of Shivvay Singh Oberoi was not necessary.


While what ever you have said I agree with it wholeheartedly but
Ishqbaaz has an absolutely horrendous storyline and always had so in my humble opinion. It had very good execution and an awesome ambiance. That is what worked for the show. It was never the storyline. I was expecting some sense of logic so far the story was concerned but eventually gave up. I would rather enjoy much worthy FFs here than to expect the creatives to show something intelligent. That would be absolutely dumb of me. I too enjoy the random scenes of the lead pair mainly because both of them look absolutely enchanting.

On the side note please please please update your story.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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In indian soaps, men can practice polygamy, have affairs, impregnate women out of wedlock to save the family honour or for whatever reason because they dominate the society. . there's no age limit for that and they can keep vamps with them for decades .. the same goes for the men in society as well. Shivaay is doing it for obvious reasons..for hot irresistable full on attitude guys are easy targets.. wives here are made the scapegoats because they are strong tolerant and have no grieviances .
After tanya's exit, Shivaay will address the media about his fake relation with her and Anika will be back as his legitimate wife for some months...till the next blackmailer appears with some other fmy raaz .
About the 10.10 episode rant .. why did we have to see Tanya snatching Anika's sargi from dadi and Shivika couldnt do the KC pooja with the family though their garage scene was so
beautiful plus a relief we didnt get to see Shivaay standing next to Tanya along hisfamily waiting for the moon. About Anika taking the lead in the bathroom as the nayi soch.. it was the same Anika who v seductively did the love confession first leaving him dumbstruck for some days .. ya but it was a different scene.. And what to say about the lollipop for the youngsters , I too fell for the shivika romance( seeing it as the damage control )
It was a pity that poor Anika had some doubts about the card being for her or for the other fake woman.
The cvs should have shown a more apologetic Shivaay , caring for Anika and initiating romance

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