5:10:2017 - Rants and Frustrations

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Reboot and return of the ... not Jedi ... Shivvay
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I hope you didn't mind I borrowed a bit from you Shalini 😉

They just got married n on wedding night husband left her and returned after 15 days with a new woman as wife and failed to recognize her. This is a serious issue and not something which needs to be dealt in a comic way.
You know I did not watch IB today because of exactly the same reason. I cannot enjoy this comic track that they are covering the real issue up with. It is amazing to see people are so easily distracted from the fact that this comedy is being done with a woman, other than the wife, living in that bedroom. I wonder how many of us would find it funny had that been our bedroom and our husband.

I know that (from posts) the writer has again provided the 'Lollipop' of comic relief to make up for the whole humiliating ... 'you are not my wife - get out' that he very conveniently yells at her and she swallows like a wife with no self respect or pride.
I will not call her 'Patni Vrata' because i do not think that defines her. Those women had self-respect and dignity for the word 'Patni' whereas here that word is more a joke than pride, thanks to the writer.

We know he is acting out the ML and it is even sadder that he does not trust his wife enough to take her into confidence. There are plenty of opportunities if he wants to truly do that and where there is a will - there is a way.

I am saddened because I know that even after the truth that he is faking ML comes out he will not bother (as always) to justify his hurtful action, apologize for his act and acknowledge that what he did was wrong by her. The writer does not find it necessary for a husband to do those things for his wife. It is even more sad that she is a woman herself.

Also, I am not sure about others but this whole 'forget that it happened because he hugged her when she cried in the dark' is something I cannot digest. So that act of humiliation is all nullified now because omg!! he now felt her pain. How messed up is this writer and how messed up is she turning the audience into!??

As for Annika, the writer has turned her into a real piece of work.
Annika not questioning, not upset, not resentful and not hurt by what he did, irrespective of 'why' he did it is not normal.Point out one woman, in real life, who would have not been hurt, humiliated and broken at that very moment to go through what she went through, including the person who wrote this script. What understanding came after he shared his problem with her is another matter altogether but to show such a numb and lifeless Annika is making me start to think if the girl even knows what self respect means anymore!!

And herein lies my second beef with what the writer her written and turned Annika into. The hatred for the character is very evident by the way they have progressed (or have not) with Annika, as much as they might refute that all the FL's of IB are equally important to them

It is bad enough he treats her this way but what is worse is that she brushes it off without even asking him to justify what her place, as the one he loves, means in his life. There is understanding and there is self respect ... the writer is confusing us and mixing the two so that it is justified as his act under pressure and as her act of love.

To love someone is not to lay down your self respect for them ... you CANNOT love another unless you love yourself FIRST
You cannot expect respect from others unless you respect YOURSELF FIRST.
Nari Shakti my foot!!!

So basically someone said humiliate and insult your wife in public and I will spare your Family's secret from coming out in the open and he did that without batting an eyelid but she is 'mahan' enough to not feel anger over it or at least a healthy dose of resentment!??

This is the same land that bore great women like Draupadi who stood up for her honor and her self respect when her husband staked it in a game of dice!!??
Both women were used as a bargaining chip, a 'get out of jail free' card and both reacted in completely different ways to that being done to them. Neither could do anything about what has been done but the reaction of both is worlds apart.
One makes us proud and the other feel humiliated to be a woman, courtesy of Writer Saheba (surprisingly a women herself)

I respect Draupadi the married woman, who stood up for herself and questioned her husbands decision in open court more than I respect Annika the married one, who has made excuses for her husband treating her like a worthless disposable commodity

This is not about Annika, this is about the real women who go through this. This is about those women watching this and using this as their yardstick to stay in abusive relationships. Maybe they are young and impressionable and will mold their marriages according to this that they see.
I know I will be told that 'Meeh! it's a soap so just chill' but even then it is a soap about humans not aliens.
To those asking me to chill - This is not a Sci-Fi ... this is supposed to be a human drama hence the appropriate emotions have to flow.

There are those who are exalting her for her forbearance, patience and understanding in this whole thing saying that she is so great to clue into his problem and fight for him.
To those I wish to tell ... we all, as wives/partners fight for our husbands/ other half's, stand up for them, protect them and are the Durga's and Kali's when we need to be but we are those Devi's (goddesses) because we are treated with the due respect Goddesses are treated with by our husbands/partners.
A goddess is venerated and put on a place of respect so that it is evident that she is treated with dignity and respect, not shunned and disowned by the Family that has installed her as a deity
Annika is supposedly a 'Lakshmi' according to Indian Families as a bahu ... I will leave the rest unsaid.

None of our husbands/partners would dare cross that line (Shivvay did with Annika) with us and not expect to face that same wrath directed towards them.
What understanding and problem solving comes after that explanation is given is beside the point but none of us would ever be taken for granted by our husbands the way Shivvay does Annika.

Being a Goddess does not mean you lose yourself and your dignity - being a Goddess means you are true to yourself first and dare anyone to tarnish that dignity you wrap yourself with.

And what is it with Annika?!! The writer has turned her into a real 'dual personality' with serious issues from what I see. One minute she is laughing at her own childish antic of mixing 'jamal ghota' for the other woman her husband is so valiantly protecting from HER!!! (who is the wife here!! 😕) and the next she is crying buckets in a corner in the dark because he refuses to acknowledge her as his wife ... is it just me or is this not just abnormal !!?? 😲😲

Again, I am sure that there are many who will prefer not to delve into this because it is way too much to think about because this is just a show. They would like to live in the make believe world that the writer is spinning like gossamer silk threads around them while mulling their intelligence with doses of crap like this.
But remember as a responsible viewer you owe it that your show be entertaining not promoting negative role models.


Shivaay definitely owes an explanation to his wife regarding his decision and actions, they need to have a heart to heart conversation before moving towards comedy.
That will never happen because the writer will never let the ML actually behave like a responsible and involved husband. Their ML will make the decisions and act expecting the FL to just roll over and play dead like the obedient dog they have trained. No need to consult, share or even respect that the wife is intelligent enough to deal with Family issues shoulder to shoulder.
The wife in turn will be made by the writer to provide comic relief and entertainment while performing childish antics to oust the other woman, her husbands betrayal and insult very conveniently forgotten.
What a lovely image of what a married couple should be.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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We are the dumb feminists pearl who don't understand the depth of that hug in the dark
All I hope for is that the writer gets her act together - Anika acting like a comedian one sec, crying in another is not working for me lol - that being said I loved the scene with dadi yesterday as a standalone only as it really didn't work it's way in the story for me. With the hashy writing (pun intended) that we are getting, I guess we have to start watching shivika scenes as standalones now to enjoy them 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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We are the dumb feminists pearl who don't understand the depth of that hug in the dark 😆
omg!!! Ruzzie ... I can't even 🤣


Hash addiction has spread like a wild fire in the fandom too aisey hi track chalta raha toh we all will have to do hash or stronger !!! 😆😆😆

All I hope for is the writer gets her act together - Anika acting like a comedian one sec, crying in another is not working for me lol ... Bipolar kehena tha but poor SC ... uska kya kasur??

So i said 'dual personality' to keep it on a mild disorder level because that is actually writer saheba not the character who is flip-flopping ... how can one even jump from one to the other when they write man !!?? it is beyond me !!!


I guess we have to start watching shivika scenes as standalones now to enjoy them 😆 Kya burey din aagaye hai hum fans key that we have to watch them as standalones to enjoy them
Edited by asya34 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I remember commenting on a post that the CVs have made a joke of the institution of marriage. I think it was after Shivika's forced marriage and Rudra and Soumya's nasha-induced shaadi. I also wrote that I hoped the lekhikas wouldn't give ideas to the young and impressionable people watching the serial that yeh sab chalta he in a shaadi and that you have to put up with such demeaning nonsense that kills your self-respect to maintain a relationship with a man.
In the months that have followed, I haven't had the good fortune to change my mind. Gul and co have only reinforced my opinion.

This particular track of Anika-Shivaay-Tanya is cringe worthy on many levels. What is it supposed to prove? That two don't make a marriage and only three do? That Anika-Shivaay share a rare trust between them that can't be broken by Shivaay's involvement with other women? Sorry, that doesn't really work with me.

No woman on earth who loves her husband will let him share their bedroom with another woman, let alone share him with a woman he calls his wife, even if it is under ML. What is being shown right now in the serial is demeaning to all women and what they are making Anika do and emote is insulting to all women with half a brain.

Shivaay says Pari can be his. There is a teardrop in Anika's eye and she looks shocked for a moment. Then she gets on with her duty of looking after the baby. Yaar, he was in a relationship with Tia for 3 years, right? How can he have a 9 month old baby with another girl? Poochna chahiye tha na? But no. Anika remains silent and takes the bullcrap.

And the scene with a random girl being found in their bed after a night of heavy partying. He Bhagwan! Anika's reaction to Shivaay's attempt at an explanation blew my mind.


Coming back to the mess they are dishing out now, a hug in the dark doesn't compensate for humiliation of the worst order. During Anika's ML, Shivaay and Anika used to communicate via messages. Why can't they do it now? And what is the value of their promise to always face troubles together? Zero. You know, I think they brought in the kabaadiwala on purpose. He deserves to take their promises and vows, dump them in his bag and push off. And no, they don't deserve the dinner set in return.



Edited by smitar - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: asya34



Typing from the phone so a quick response

All I have to say is hash ka kamaal hai that makes a woman sacrifice such a well conceived female character (obviously not by her but MRunal, hence, she is happily butchering Anika whenever she feels like) at the drop of a hat due to her addiction to a certain male character 😆

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have almost reached my limits for this nonsense : seriously making a mockery of every relationship n they say it's all about relationships family n especially brothers n their love stories .

After Guls reply of go get a life the characters were never yours crap it feels like all the demented n twisted souls who came together to make n write this need therapy and belong some where else .

What exactly did we get so far ??? Never existing father to son relationship ,same goes for mom n Sons too ... mom has been either shown as a drinking rage, peeping tom or as a useless female whose sole reason for existence is messing up their sons lives .

Then the messy relationships wrapped in The most stinkiest of the wrappers all under the guise of love , naari Shakti n what not . Marriage n wedding includes MF all relationships redefined n shot to pieces.

I understand TRPs and also that this is fiction n we did not make these characters but they stand there bcos we the viewers accepted them n nurtured them n spend all the time we can spare going thru a wringer for them. With out all of us no TRPs ot their so called pride in what they created and what they are hell bent on destroying now would be there . They will have none .

That said I really do not understand people who are relating to what they are watching today n say good episodes trust the makers get excited for lollypops n call it a progress n get on offensive with anyone who takes a different view .

To me if it makes me the minority to feel bad , not relate at all what I see love n define al relationships by those standards it means I am still human n I have my brain n heart in the right place . Other than that everyone is welcome to their own POV .

IB is not what it was before n never will be .. the bottom line or the lesson learnt from all this mess .hoping I am not there when this goes down for good meaning I have learnt to stay away n put myself out of this misery .
Edited by yash2010 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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With a very heavy heart I have to agree to everything being said here.. 😭
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I no longer know what to make of the characters 😕

The whole premise of Tanya wanting to be declared as the wife, hanging around OM and not letting Shivaay talk or recognize (only) Annika is so lame to start with - and added to that, why is it that the burden of proving that Shivaay is under duress and 'acting' like he does not recognize her on Annika? Shouldn't that be "one who never gets blackmailed" Shivaay's problem to fix?😕


Originally posted by: asya34

And what is it with Annika?!! The writer has turned her into a real 'dual personality' with serious issues from what I see. One minute she is laughing at her own childish antic of mixing 'jamal ghota' for the other woman her husband is so valiantly protecting from HER!!! (who is the wife here!! 😕) and the next she is crying buckets in a corner in the dark because he refuses to acknowledge her as his wife ... is it just me or is this not just abnormal !!?? 😲😲

Taken as a standalone, I could even take y'days daadi-Annika scene mainly because daadi, SC and NM were awesome with their comic timing but today way was out there .. and to get Saahil included too in what was supposedly "bhajaaofying Tanya" - seriously?

As for the Om-Gauri sequence today.. Sigh.

I am definitely curious though to see if and how they can get the story back "on track", if at all.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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A big hug for you 🤗 for this post.
I have not been enjoying this whole "reboot" thing. How is it ok for Shivaay to go back on his vows that he literally just made to her couple of weeks ago? 😕
Annika is cute and all in her antics.. and SC comic timing is on point but I just don't find this track/situation to be funny at all...maybe cuz I'm married and older.
I for one didn't care for that hug in today's episode. I know it was dark and Annika was already scared... but Annika and the audience already know Shivaay is faking his selective amnesia, did they really had to show Annika begging him to admit that he remembers her and their relationship 🤢
Yes he hugged her, but there was no guilt, regret or anything on his face (also Tanya creeping from the for door, but I'll leave that for now) 😆

But thanks again for this! 😊

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