Why a 5 Yr Leap is a Potentially Great Thing for Ishqbaaz

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Okay lets look at this thing logically-- do we believe it and secondly-- WHAT THE HELL, right? Well, firstly, the news is from a cast member, who gives reasonably accurate spoilers because hes in the actual damn scenes! So I buy the idea of a 5 year leap if Khanna-ji has said it. He shouldn't have, its sensitive plot info (lol) but he did, and deleted it, so I buy it. Secondly, all shows who have crossed the 1.5 year mark struggle with a shot in the arm for TRP and that is usually done with weddings. We know how fantastically Gul has wasted #ShivikaDiShaadi because of her commitment to keeping a certain sinking ship afloat (devoting money, attention, manpower, writing to that vanity project instead of the rozi-roti kamana IB). She messed up. She knows it. She needs to try something else. IB has fallen off the top 20. Its all hands on deck for her, and Ishqbaaz.

So--Leap.

But whats the positives from the leap, you ask? Shivika falling apart, Obros separated, or broken up? Vanwas? Villains like Pinky or whoever the new guy is, winning? I say yes--to everything, but the first. I don't think Shivika separation is going to be on the cards--they are married, and in love. They will stay married, and in love, and work together, to end their family conflict that has led to the separation.

And here is why. Not emotional reasons, but solid, sensible ones.

IB barely survived the separation of Shivika once already. A track that Harneet and Gul were really excited about was tai tai phissed as soon as it happened. If you think it over, it was almost inevitable that Shivika was going to separate. Shivaay did NOT value Anika over NKK -- certainly not over his family. She felt she had literally no haq over him--she said so, demonstrated it, and it turned out to be true. They had no real marriage, no confidence, as they do now. Their body language, their openness, their devotion. Their commitment now and their love now is fathoms deeper than it was, before separation. Shivaay knew nothing about his own weakness for Anika. From the moment he realized he wanted her, she was there. He never had to miss her, so he never had any idea exactly how much she had become his reason for existence. Now? 😆

We were expecting the leap. You and I. But when it came-- we fans learnt, and more importantly, the channel learnt that IB is Shivika, and vice versa. We fans don't count anyway, the TRP audience do--and that TRP audience left because unlike Ekta shows, they couldnt bear to see Anika with Samar and Shivaay with Ragini. Not even to see them suffer, though angst is usually a TRP Aunty's favorite jam after strawberry.
Important distinction-- They rejected that new couple pairing--we didn't, because we hated it, but we all still watched. We are online noise as Gul says again and again (read her interview in Ms Malini over SS show ending --she angrily dismisses the fan reactions which even trade journals are blaming for the show's tanking).

But the TRP audience who she cares about left the show in droves--and many didn't come back. Star Plus rushed them into reuniting Shivika 3 weeks after the separation. It was just 3 weeks you know, though it felt like a year. The reuniting took another 5 weeks-- and there went their plan for the chawl sale, for Samar and his past, for Ragini's insanity and Shivaay's cruelty to Anika, for Anika's job track with Samar, the nice mother of the new parallel leads, Anika getting married to her boss, Shivaay revengefully getting together with Ragini, Samar / Shivaay confrontation, Shivika reunion and Samar's story, etc. LOOK at the number of tracks they abandoned--because of TRP, and Star Plus saying--get them back into the same room, NOW...

So, if its a 5 year leap, I can guarantee ONE thing. Shivaay and Anika will be together. Nothing else might be the same. The brothers may be separated (the OBros moment being interrupted yesterday--something that has never happened before is a foreshadowing). The new entry may be good or bad--(though his acting is already bad). Shivaay may have a past he is hiding from Anika. The raaz may rear up over the next few weeks to kickstart Vanwas. This model girl may be somehow connected to it. But he wont romance her. And all of you who are saying this and getting stress ulcers should be ashamed of yourselves--Shivaay aisa nahi hai, I am quite upset with you for suspecting him, especially now. And I will sar phor myself if Anika suspects him. The man physically, emotionally and psychologically cannot imagine his heart beating--literally-- without her. And he will cheat/be blackmailed to cheat by a model? Please.

So. During Leap, they will be together, and will face whatever they have had to face for 5 years, together. No storyline Harneet and Gul propose to, and get approval from, Star Plus will change that. Not after last time.

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Leap starts the Vanwas--hints from the raaz that Dadi is hiding, Pinky is involved in, Shakti and even Tej know about--that will be impossible for Shivaay to handle, that Dadi thinks might break him and Anika up. But she's wrong. Even the worst thing--Anika's parents being killed somehow by the Obeoris-- will not make Anika leave HIM--she has no memory of that family. She is not Bhavya, motivated by revenge and trauma. She is attached to Sahil, to Shivaay's pyaari family, and to HIM. She will forgive him anything-- especially if its not his doing. But he wont be able to take that, and he will leave OM with her, to honor HER. This, the worst thing I can think of might get him out of OM, but given where their relationship is--he will leave with her, come what may. And she wont let him go alone, either.

Aside from Shivika, the other OBro stories are at a natural tipping point, actually, for their own separations. I don't know why people act like leaps are somehow inherently evil. We are getting the same characters, in slightly different stages of their lives. As long as no one is dead and no one is 20 years older, I am fine with a leap. Fresh starts are needed, its a daily soap.

For example--

A leap gives Gauri a chance to change quite dramatically, because we all know what Om is about to do will be the final straw for her. He HAS been Tej, when it comes to Gauri. He has never understood her, stood up for her, supported her. He is a terrible husband--he cannot even say the word "husband" to this girl. He is sulky, non communicative, passive aggressive. He suspects her motives constantly. He blows hot and cold. He makes demands, while giving her no rights. How much longer will she stay in that cage? And now he will accuse her--badly. His roiling emotions with Tej and Janvi being back together, and his confusion and hatred and shame and feelings about marriage will turn him into a worse version of Tej. Volcanokara, indeed. And for weeks now, Gauri has signaled-- she has had enough.

Gauri should--and she will-- divorce him, or leave him. This time she will mean it. She is strong-- I would say stronger than Anika, even--and she will change, adapt and survive. Hopefully, stay in touch with her Bade Bhaiya and Baujai--and hopefully they wont blame her for leaving. Om will be left behind, and he will have to come to terms with his own past--his unresolved thing with Tej, his fear of turning into Janvi, his distrust of marriage, of women, of cheating spouses-- and he will have to fix all that, without Gauri's help--because that is HIS Vanwas, not hers. And Gauri must grow and change and no longer be quite so naive--that is her journey. If she is still in touch with Shivika during all this--post the leap we will see a strong, revamped GKS-- and that will give Om a second chance, at his first love. This time, actually earning her, not just getting her as Shiv-ji ka prasad.

Rudra's thing with Bhavya felt pretty final, honestly. But do you realize 5 years later gets Rudra right to what Bhavya's age is, right now? She even said this, remember? You will not remain a child forever, then what will you do? And if his problem is ageism, and shallowness-- 5 years apart from his Shivaay Bhaiya/Bhabi, with Om almost useless because of what he's done to Gauri, will be enough to mature Rudra into what his original character graph was supposed to be-- a wall, like Shivaay, a businessman, an Oberoi--but the strongest, the best of them all. I see Bhavya's return then (ACP has grown on me, I hope she's endgame) focused on getting the old, happy wala Rudra ba
ck, and admire the grown up Rudra, as well.

So...thoughts? And, most importantly--what are the chances of Gul getting any of this right? Are you for the leap? Against it? Will you quit watching? Why? And do you feel the leap will work to save IB's ratings, anyway? The TRPs...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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ANYTHING WILL DO TO STOP THIS SHOW FROM GOING OFF AIR!! So I say leap will do.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Your speculations do sound good...but I will think twice before risking my sanity to watch a leap...because I guess by now almost everyone knows that this PH can goof up anything...whenever i feel things cant go worse...they prove me wrong
i had risked my sanity once in 2011 with this PH...and i still blame myself (and only myself) for coming back with DBO...because as the channel had promised...it wasnt a love story...but a 3rd grade science fiction.

So I would say...even though you have given a decent idea about the leap...i may not risk it
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I dnt hate leaps...I hate seperation but now I really think our show is sinking so if the leap helps to make our site a hit and if the makers are planning to give a potential story then I am definitely ready for it.. .
wat i really dnt want is any third wheel track...that stage had over for shivika now wat ever it is they should face together and I really wanted the cvs to progress other pairs story too...IB fans should stand together... I had seen so many blaming games going on because of low TRP .. first everyone should understand that if we fight with each other for TRP and blame each other... at last loss will be ours... we will loss our show ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm against it.

During the first leap, Shivika had all the post-separation tracks scrapped and was lost for months. Random character flips between episodes just to stretch the conflict. Ragini could have been a real vamp, but she hit herself with a hammer then she disappeared. Om was in a coma for 3 months and no development for his story. Gauri was in a comatose state herself. We hardly saw more than two scenes with ShivRu with Om or worrying about him. The fact is I have seen shows with leaps that were better executed and it still failed. TRP audience weren't able to connect with it. I can't names, but one of my favorite shows was ruined because of leaps and now I'm only watching for the cast. I don't even comment on the forum anymore. It's upsetting how much the leaps ruined the show. The thing is we don't need a leap. We don't need new leads. We don't need Shivaay with a past with this new woman. We need consistency and decent tracks.

The vanvas track could happen after the raaz is revealed and the rift happens between the brothers. It's not crazy to think that Shivaay being heartbroken that of all people Daadi was lying and hiding a truth from him. It could be a reboot of truth vs family and Shivaay chooses truth over his family. He always gave his family the benefit of the doubt. We never saw him hiding Tej's crimes. The raaz is related to him and will affect his relationship with his family (and Anika). It's not hard to believe he could walk away if he feels his trust has been betrayed by the very people he sacrificed for. The reality is leaps only bring kids or new hairstyles and nothing more. If there is a 5 year leap I can guarantee you the TRP audience like my mom and aunties will be expecting a child. Shivika married for 5 years and no kids. Not going to sit well with them that's why most of the time kids young or older versions come with leaps. IB is a family show, but its also an urban show. Younger people watch the show as well I think it won't have the same vibe with the leap. Shivika and kids won't work look at poor Sahil always shipped off to the hostel.

I'm not interested in new looks or kids when we can get character development. Shivika with Sahil living and adjusting in their new. Building his own empire or struggling to make a name for himself. Literally all their vows could be a separate track. Tejvi guiding their sons to stand up and take care of their empire. Om possibly sacrificing his art to protect Shivaay's position and achievements if Tej goes back to being evil. Gauri establishing her own place within the family and working with him. She was so smart and calculating in DBO they can bring that Gauri back. Daadi, Shakti, and Pinky redeeming themselves for whatever they did. Rudra is one my favorite characters. Honestly, I never thought he needed Bhavya to make him mature. He was already mature, but he hides behind the joker mask. He has proven time and time again he's a good judge of character. The ability to read people is talent within itself. I always wanted to see the different shades of his character come out, but unfortunately the writers went with another route.

There is so many potential tracks that will be missed if the leap happens. From the first leap there were no flashbacks, which is why the TRP audience couldn't connect. Everyone wanted to know what happened, but it was ignored. However, I wouldn't be shocked if they went with this route. Leaps are always the last ditch effort to save a show. Apparently, the ratings were low this week.
Edited by yellomellow - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Your speculations are nice.

But i have zero trust in the creatives to be honest. I for one have been invested in IB and DBO, both. So one of those audience who actually knows where each couple stand in and with in their relationship. I was one of those who was tentatively excited for the merger because I thought why not, we will get OBros, get to see Obahus bonding. And love stories progressing. Three months into it, I am still waiting for that progress. DBO ended with Om promising Gauri to get to know her. The CVs could've showed a beautiful relationship with their awkwardness, both of them acknowledging the attraction, tender and sweet moments and what not. Same with the other couples too. They shouldve focused on the dynamics, the complexities in and of their relationships. But what did we get? Ragini and Vikram and Babies dropped from the Sky. They wasted the whole of August on that. The shaadi which was promoted so heavily was once dragged and now its rushed with family members missing and no one missing them.. The inconsistencies in the script was always there, now its blatantly visible. What happens today has no context to what happened yesterday. How will audience sit through one hour or 30 minutes even and take this serial seriously which lacks continuity? The tracks are either dragged or rushed. The pace needs to be steady to make the story impactful.

The leap may or may not be true and your very good speculations might be seen on screen too but do the CVs have it in them to show it in a way which can make the desired impact? My answer is No. We will see the leap(if there is one) start off with a bang only to have it fizzle out like all the recent tracks.

I have stopped watching it on TV quite a long time ago, just sneaking glimpses of the occasional rare good scenes more out of (bad) habit than anything else. The serial till now was being salvaged somewhat by the stellar cast. Not sure till how long they can carry & cover a bad plot with their performances.
Edited by Priya_Iyer - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post. Your points make sense and I hope it is the way you say it is and they don't put in useless twists that don't make sense. Especially the stuff about Shivika and the girl. Separating them again and having a girl come between them would be stupid.

I will say that it did make me panic when the article said that she's a pivotal character and her track will revolved around Shivaay rather than the whole Oberoi's. I hope she isn't an ex girlfriend and that we don't have to see Anika jealous and insecure once again and that's not why the separation happens. Also even if she isn't an ex and if she model likes him then I hope Shivaay doesn't give any attention to her and is considerate of Anika unlike previous hero's of Gul's shows.

Lastly I hope it isn't another Shivika separating and him planning to get married to her track because it would be stupid so I hope they don't go there. Shivaay's too sure of what he wants to be made a pappu by another girl and again have Anika come rescue him. I hope it isn't that and I hope it is the way you think. Though I will say I can't really trust Gul and her team. I hope I'm proven wrong and there's logic in the tracks like you think. I hope the article is misleading.
Edited by notacrimetolove - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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5 year leap if there is any is bit too much, they can do time lapse' of few months at the most. By taking a 5 year leap they won't be able to continue with Sahil's character! and I don't think I like the idea of him not being there as part of the Shivika journey... I mean, don't want to see a different child actor other than Aaryan 😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
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so if finally we are going to vanwas track
i dont want the leap to be rushed they should slowly build up the track no rush and then show shivay aanika leaving the mansion with rudra as lakshman with them
when lakshman left with ram sita he did not take his wife
so similarly shivika rudy start a new life set up a business in this process we see rudy becoming mature so when finall after 5 years when bhavya meets him we see a matured rudy
omkara gauri were agreat team as chulkara they solved so many problems its just that they are not able to accept marriage so when the responsibilites of om fall on rikara they should put their differances aside and start a new phase of life
as you said there is alot of potential with leap
ii hope it is executed well and it ends on a happy note with the 3 obros united in same house with a happy family
Edited by Tadibaaaz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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If it's true then it's a hard pass from me 😆

There is nothing potentially good about this leap. It's going to be a lot of W*F going on. It's been months and they still can't seem to get one track right. I stopped watching regularly after the merge because the group romance was too much for me. From the written updates and twitter nothing happened. Merge was about the brothers other than random shipping from Shivaay there was no bonding. Rikara had no development. No idea what is happening with Rudra other than he was traveling by train. A year of waiting and shaadi track is meh. Even Svetlana disappeared after weeks of Kaveri.

I remember reading your post about Sahil's custody and thinking this will never happen because it's a good idea. Then the whole custody was resolved in an episode. I would prefer the new chick being a homewrecker over leaps anyday. The characters 5 years older doesn't gel with me. It's weird. Why can't they just take a week to set up the tracks and show them without leaps? I don't get it.


@yellomellow 100% TRP aunties will want a baby after the 5 year leap. Unless the writers go with the "unable to conceive" trope, which is a huge possibility lol. What happens to poor Sahil will he get aged out or will he go to boarding school to never return again 😆 No baby TRP audience will switch the channel. Kid then younger audience will lose interest and switch the channel. Lose-lose situation. Honestly, IB doesn't seem like a show where a 5 year leap will work.

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