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Originally posted by: mirnalini
I was waiting for your post.
It's a tug of war between these two. Reminds me of FRIENDS when there's a war between Chandler-Monica & Phoebe-Rachel about who will first accept defeat, with Joey playing the middle man. In the end both parties know everything and still fight till Chandler accepts that he's in love with Monica.It's the same here. Rudra-Om are the middlemen here, stuck between these two. Note that they've already told Shivaay that there is no fiance, that Annika is lying. Except for the illegitimacy truth, they've told him almost all else. They are both playing double agents here, they know Annika's side of the story and they know Shivaay's. and they make it a point to communicate the same to both sides. But it is the sides that are causing all the problem.Who will crack first is the question here. My vote goes to Shviaay. Annika is much stronger, more tenacious and impenetrable than Shivaay. She is a lot more headstrong and resolute & can last longer in a fight. You should remember that SSO has already accepted that usse farak padta hai, twice (once when he declared his engagement to Ragini, & second the morning after the bhaang episode). Annika, not once!She bore the separation also better. I can see her going to the mandap and not giving in. She just might run away before the actual pheras, but I can totally see her stretching this to the end to punish SSO. In my opinion, she is punishing him for the divorce. No matter how bad things got, you just don't divorce your wife on a whim. Yes she behaved abominably that day, but you can't just end a relationship based on one day's behaviour and abandon your life partner like that. She is hurt, and her trust in him is broken. Add to that the fact that he never trusts her when it matters. First Tia, then Pinky during the NT drama and now Ragini. When he has no faith in her, how can she trust him again with herself? She has already done that, and paid in scores for it. It's not going to be that easy this time around. Yes, she is there for him to catch the pieces when he finds out the truth, but not as his wife anymore. Cuz as she pointed out, they are divorced and he has lost all rights over her.Yes SSO regrets it, he said as much to Om-Ru. Maybe say the same thing to Annika and things can go back to being the way they were. But he said so after he found out that she did whatever she did due to some major reason. My question here is, why can't his love be unconditional? Why can't he accept her despite what she did? If she could forgive him for his sins, why can't he? It's not like his conduct has been flawless since the beginning of their rendezvous. Quite the contrary.If anyone here watches Pakistani serials, there's a show called Humsafar starring Fawad Khan & Mahira Khan. I'm not going to get into details, so this comparison is only for those who have seen the show. Fawad wants his wife to come back despite thinking that she betrayed him with another man. It is because he is so hopelessly in love with her, that despite trying for years to hate her, he just couldn't. And the heroine flat out refuses to discuss the whole thing or to come back to him. She offers no explanations whatsoever. It's because she is so hurt that he could ever doubt her that she wants nothing to do with him.Why can't we have that poignancy here? Perhaps in a daily soap, it is just impossible to maintain such a high level of clarity in the storyline.
Originally posted by: maan-chahatgeet
Hi Mirnalini.So we'll said.Agree with everything.Just the letters in bold.have been an ardent fan of humsafar n that's why couldn't stop myself from quoting n getting connected with you on that. When I started watcing humsafar I always sighed why cant we get stories like that on Indian television n after a long time I saw Ishqbaaz particularly Shivaay and Anikas fable taking that lead where things were unsaid yet so beautiful. In that serial what amazed me was how beautifully they used to say it all when they said nothing at all.That was the power of humsafar.I see that here too but somewhere then again shivaay behaves like a male chauvinist and the beauty is all gone!Waiting for it to get back now and be proud of our ishqbaaaz once again Each time I see shivaay being the real Shivaay my heart swells with pride that we have a set a new standard on our Indian screens as well.LoveThwisha
Originally posted by: mirnalini
I was waiting for your post.
It's a tug of war between these two. Reminds me of FRIENDS when there's a war between Chandler-Monica & Phoebe-Rachel about who will first accept defeat, with Joey playing the middle man. In the end both parties know everything and still fight till Chandler accepts that he's in love with Monica.It's the same here. Rudra-Om are the middlemen here, stuck between these two. Note that they've already told Shivaay that there is no fiance, that Annika is lying. Except for the illegitimacy truth, they've told him almost all else. They are both playing double agents here, they know Annika's side of the story and they know Shivaay's. and they make it a point to communicate the same to both sides. But it is the sides that are causing all the problem.Thanks for pointing this out. They have done what you said, but they don't really know about Ragini do they? The problem here isn't the secret, its their broken trust. Trust was the pillar of their marriage. She stood up for him with no proof whatsoever, and he didn't do that for her. She told him , his mother is scheming to make them fight, and he shouted at her so much.Can't blame him also. He really cannot imagine his mother being so evil. When he witnesses her in her true form, it will be such a huge scene , I can't wait.Who will crack first is the question here. My vote goes to Shviaay. Annika is much stronger, more tenacious and impenetrable than Shivaay. She is a lot more headstrong and resolute & can last longer in a fight. You should remember that SSO has already accepted that usse farak padta hai, twice (once when he declared his engagement to Ragini, & second the morning after the bhaang episode). Annika, not once!Yes, Faraq padta hai. Then just say na, Ragini is nobody to me. Then she'll also say I was never engaged to anyone. FInished.She bore the separation also better. I can see her going to the mandap and not giving in. She just might run away before the actual pheras, but I can totally see her stretching this to the end to punish SSO. In my opinion, she is punishing him for the divorce. No matter how bad things got, you just don't divorce your wife on a whim. Yes she behaved abominably that day, but you can't just end a relationship based on one day's behaviour and abandon your life partner like that. She is hurt, and her trust in him is broken. Add to that the fact that he never trusts her when it matters. First Tia, then Pinky during the NT drama and now Ragini. When he has no faith in her, how can she trust him again with herself? She has already done that, and paid in scores for it. It's not going to be that easy this time around. Yes, she is there for him to catch the pieces when he finds out the truth, but not as his wife anymore. Cuz as she pointed out, they are divorced and he has lost all rights over her.Yes SSO regrets it, he said as much to Om-Ru. Maybe say the same thing to Annika and things can go back to being the way they were. But he said so after he found out that she did whatever she did due to some major reason. My question here is, why can't his love be unconditional? Why can't he accept her despite what she did? If she could forgive him for his sins, why can't he? It's not like his conduct has been flawless since the beginning of their rendezvous. Quite the contrary.If anyone here watches Pakistani serials, there's a show called Humsafar starring Fawad Khan & Mahira Khan. I'm not going to get into details, so this comparison is only for those who have seen the show. Fawad wants his wife to come back despite thinking that she betrayed him with another man. It is because he is so hopelessly in love with her, that despite trying for years to hate her, he just couldn't. And the heroine flat out refuses to discuss the whole thing or to come back to him. She offers no explanations whatsoever. It's because she is so hurt that he could ever doubt her that she wants nothing to do with him.YOu know M, I thought it will go this way too. They may have a reunion and tearful conversation as truth comes out. But the trust is not rebuilt as quickly as they broke it. That will take longer.I was a little surprised at this wedding drama. Sort of takes the wind out of a slow walk to reaching for their hands. NOw everything will happen in between wedding rasm and dancing.It's okay, they want to join it up with the other two couples so it's ok.But I strongly feel, that the way he threw her out , he has to properly ask for her to come back into his life. Nothing less. Not asking for public kneeling down, just to her.Why can't we have that poignancy here? Perhaps in a daily soap, it is just impossible to maintain such a high level of clarity in the storyline.