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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7


Lovely write up M, thank you..


I really want that loop closed. The way Shivaay never trusts Annika and the way he shouted at her during Pinky's plotting, NT drama and Ranveer-Pranka wedding. There is an imbalance here. Annika has supported Shivaay way more than him. He has always needed proof from her, whereas she hasn't. I really hope they don't disappoint us with Pinky's revelation. I want to see Shivaay repenting for not trusting Annika. I supposed it is understandable that he trusted his mother more, after all, she is his mother. But there's a lot of hurt caused here and a lot of pain inflicted, albeit unintentionally, from his end to hers. She hurt him once and he divorced her, he, on the other hand, keeps hurting her. What about that?!

They have delayed Pinky's revelation too much. Justice delayed is in a way justice denied. And even delayed gratification has a shelf life. You can't delay it too much. Her expose is losing its importance now. Dunno how they're going to wrap it up, but they really should. There would still be a lot of scope in the storyline post Pinky's expose, it's all about creativity.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#12
Great. I got my peace of mind after reading your post. Otherwise people are so annoyed with Annika on EDT that I was sad.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree and disagree with the few of your points, Annika wanted to get thrown out of the house did she not so did all that elaborated drama. Why is behaving like a victim now, this is what happen when you do all the things without thinking of the outcome.
Yes, he would have not believed her because no kid would think that their mother can be so vile, sometimes as fans of FL we tend to forget certain real facts of life.

Annika is a defeatist , she easily have up on their relationship the trust does not come over night it takes years to form and one moment to break it off. Her so called insecurities are never addressed in the show and I believe in show them tell.

Shivaay is not a mind reader, not many people can understand round about talk if they are straight forward people.

All of Annika mistake would be brushed aside in excuse as insecurities while Shivaay was never given such excuses for his mistakes. So to me Shivaay is more real out of the two in real life there are no such excuses for our mistakes.

Her stubbornness and pride is all she has left now, so she does not have to answer his questions is willing to go ahead with marriage. OmRu are not telling him due to her qasam and she is only one who can tell him the truth.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#14
Nice post Anisa Di.

I don't know whether Shivaay and Annika are in MFNP mode or not but I am. Just watching for the sake of watching.

Second episode that I watched without fast-forwarding after the Friday ones.

ShivIka-Vikram scene:Vikram Aditya Thappar coming to Oberoi mansion and Annika's reaction to it. Loved it. Loved it. Demonstration of the phrase - Sans atak jaana.

Rudy-Shivaay scene: I just loved the dialogue- Calm down ... my ... my Joota yaar... my foot... my Chandni.

Dinner scene: In this scene my whole focus was on the extremely diluted version of Rooh-afsa present in the glasses , whenever they appeared on the screen. I am not taking any of their talks seriously. Just too much into I don't care zone, totally ignoring what they are trying to convey through the scenes.

Waise one question to ask : Didn't Shivaay admitted ki FARAK PDTA HAI ?
Ya toh Annika bhool gyi hai ya mere samjhne mein gadbad hui hai.. like usne bola kisi aur sense mein and main kisi aur sense main samjh gyi ki that He confessed that usse farak pdta hai. Anyways when you are watching a show as a daily ritual( because of your addiction) without justifying or reasoning the actions of the characters, you can actually ignore stuff like this.

Special mention to the small change in the name of the new fiance of Annika- from Vikram to Vikramaditya. Warna I was like saare Rana's ke naam ko recycle karne wale hain yeh log. Pehle Sidharth then this Vikram , kal ko Mallika and Ketki bhi aa jaaenge. Small mercies.

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Rainzz

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Posted: 8 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: maan-chahatgeet

Hi Anisa

I m out of words to appreciate how you explain the scenes to us everytime with such simplicity!kudos👏

Crackpots!haha..they are no big shots but crackpots bending the rules and how😛ek Sher you dusra sava Sher.

I agree with you when u say that the way Anika was handled she needs to hear to have her back in his life.if someone throws us out like that I won't even consider looking back. My only question here is if she hadn't come back to get back his so called Tadi would he ever go back to get her!That absolutely stops me from saying Anika is doing too much now. she is correct in her stance it's high time Shivaay runs on skates n get his girl back n then understand or take time to know his truth!

Another thing which I really want to put here, " Anika is fearfully wonderfully made" n she is also correct in saying vikram doesn't correct her and it's her style whereas you on the other hand Shivaay, U always tried to change her.there is a lot you need to work on but I see you slowly getting there so no worries😆. You preached a lot that you will stand by her but I m sorry after that unfateful day you never practised it.

In Shivaay defence( I love both so dearly) I have only one quote thing to tell Anika
" I m not perfect. I will annoy you,piss you off,say stupid things,then take it all back. But put that all aside and you will never find that person who cares and loves you more than me."

OMG this is beautiful !! Thank you...❤️❤️❤️
The way he's encouraging his brothers to "go and get her back before its too late. Not until the point where she asks you "Kis Haq se" " As his two brothers try their own, Shivaay is sharp and focussed on getting Annika's to admit she hasn't moved on.

I wished it was a mission to prove she loves him, not that she's lying about Vikram. That's a more worthy answer right? I'm tired of ANnika being tested really. Tired.

Long rant!
I will go by stating the last quote," In life relationships are not planned, but when the relationship is real it becomes a plan for life and reason for living"

Thank you for this beautiful Read Anisa

Thank YOU for the good comment !

Love Thwisha

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mirnalini

I was waiting for your post.

It's a tug of war between these two. Reminds me of FRIENDS when there's a war between Chandler-Monica & Phoebe-Rachel about who will first accept defeat, with Joey playing the middle man. In the end both parties know everything and still fight till Chandler accepts that he's in love with Monica.

It's the same here. Rudra-Om are the middlemen here, stuck between these two. Note that they've already told Shivaay that there is no fiance, that Annika is lying. Except for the illegitimacy truth, they've told him almost all else. They are both playing double agents here, they know Annika's side of the story and they know Shivaay's. and they make it a point to communicate the same to both sides. But it is the sides that are causing all the problem.

Who will crack first is the question here. My vote goes to Shviaay. Annika is much stronger, more tenacious and impenetrable than Shivaay. She is a lot more headstrong and resolute & can last longer in a fight. You should remember that SSO has already accepted that usse farak padta hai, twice (once when he declared his engagement to Ragini, & second the morning after the bhaang episode). Annika, not once!

She bore the separation also better. I can see her going to the mandap and not giving in. She just might run away before the actual pheras, but I can totally see her stretching this to the end to punish SSO. In my opinion, she is punishing him for the divorce. No matter how bad things got, you just don't divorce your wife on a whim. Yes she behaved abominably that day, but you can't just end a relationship based on one day's behaviour and abandon your life partner like that. She is hurt, and her trust in him is broken. Add to that the fact that he never trusts her when it matters. First Tia, then Pinky during the NT drama and now Ragini. When he has no faith in her, how can she trust him again with herself? She has already done that, and paid in scores for it. It's not going to be that easy this time around. Yes, she is there for him to catch the pieces when he finds out the truth, but not as his wife anymore. Cuz as she pointed out, they are divorced and he has lost all rights over her.

Yes SSO regrets it, he said as much to Om-Ru. Maybe say the same thing to Annika and things can go back to being the way they were. But he said so after he found out that she did whatever she did due to some major reason. My question here is, why can't his love be unconditional? Why can't he accept her despite what she did? If she could forgive him for his sins, why can't he? It's not like his conduct has been flawless since the beginning of their rendezvous. Quite the contrary.

If anyone here watches Pakistani serials, there's a show called Humsafar starring Fawad Khan & Mahira Khan. I'm not going to get into details, so this comparison is only for those who have seen the show. Fawad wants his wife to come back despite thinking that she betrayed him with another man. It is because he is so hopelessly in love with her, that despite trying for years to hate her, he just couldn't. And the heroine flat out refuses to discuss the whole thing or to come back to him. She offers no explanations whatsoever. It's because she is so hurt that he could ever doubt her that she wants nothing to do with him.

Why can't we have that poignancy here? Perhaps in a daily soap, it is just impossible to maintain such a high level of clarity in the storyline.


Bang on!!! You said all. May be you need to post this in MF.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: nim_var

Anisa, lovely post..been so busy and watched the episode a little while ago...

Want to savor every expression on Poor Billu's face and his fuming when VAT lays his paws on Anika's shoulder. 😆😆 Want to smack them both for being so pig headed... the taunts were so apt n enjoyed it between them... thankfully no pony/rags... scene, will have enough of them later this week or as early as tomorrow when Shivaay goes missing.

I was wondering if his car blast is a reboot of his kidnapping of Sahil. Now he knows Annika has 3 kamzori : Sahil, Shivaay and food. Sahil is NO GO ZONE. Food was tried and he got the truth out but forgot it. So only himself is left.

So if this blast is his doing, going by bts it really does a huge number on Annika and she is devastated. But I worry about Pinky & Ragini...

Shivaay was persistant, like a dog with a bone, constantly tugging at Anika's heartstrings to let go and cave... loved how he vented out with Rudra... 🤣 The dinner convo was ..entertaining... LOL..

I liked RIkara as well... Om was calm, regretful and Gauri did a number again.. on him. Smart move I say.. hope Om does not listen to Rudra's advice by not calling Gauri. The Rikara scenes were good. Only wish he had learnt of Gauri's innocence in a better manner and shows us his thoughts on her. Alas this is not going to come...




Long day and could not resist posting once I saw yr article.. We should get ready with brick bats and tissues... take your pick...😆😆😆



Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunflower52

I agree and disagree with the few of your points, Annika wanted to get thrown out of the house did she not so did all that elaborated drama. Why is behaving like a victim now, this is what happen when you do all the things without thinking of the outcome.

Yes, he would have not believed her because no kid would think that their mother can be so vile, sometimes as fans of FL we tend to forget certain real facts of life.

When did she start to behave like a victim? When she came back to help him out of his brooding? When she acknowledged to Pinky that she made a mistake bowing to blackmail and vowed to win her love back. Or only after SHivaay brought in Ragini and rubbed her face in her insecurities?

Of course I'm not blaming Shivaay here, I don't know why one would say this just because I saw Annika's POV. I'm saying understand both sides. And I'm saying I can understand Annika doesn't feel like bending backwards for Shivaay when it comes to the "moving on" issue. She's human yaar, not a saint, just like Shivaay.

When she's mahaan, people have issues with it. WHen she isn't , people are mad at her too.

Yes, Shivaay has no reason to believe his own mother can be so vile. But the question is he claims that "If she had come to him before taking drastic steps, they could've tried to sort it out" before it reached that state it did.

Problem is , she did, and got rebuked and yelled at enough for all her insecurities to come flying out full force.

Again, I'm not Team SSO or Team Annika. we are but watching a tennis match.

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Annika is a defeatist , she easily have up on their relationship the trust does not come over night it takes years to form and one moment to break it off. Her so called insecurities are never addressed in the show and I believe in show them tell.

Shivaay is not a mind reader, not many people can understand round about talk if they are straight forward people.

All of Annika mistake would be brushed aside in excuse as insecurities while Shivaay was never given such excuses for his mistakes. So to me Shivaay is more real out of the two in real life there are no such excuses for our mistakes.

Her stubbornness and pride is all she has left now, so she does not have to answer his questions is willing to go ahead with marriage. OmRu are not telling him due to her qasam and she is only one who can tell him the truth.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rainzz

Nice post Anisa Di.

I don't know whether Shivaay and Annika are in MFNP mode or not but I am. Just watching for the sake of watching.

Second episode that I watched without fast-forwarding after the Friday ones.

ShivIka-Vikram scene:Vikram Aditya Thappar coming to Oberoi mansion and Annika's reaction to it. Loved it. Loved it. Demonstration of the phrase - Sans atak jaana.

Rudy-Shivaay scene: I just loved the dialogue- Calm down ... my ... my Joota yaar... my foot... my Chandni.

I loved the Jealous SSO volcano eruption. It's so cute when he lets out all his frustrations with Rudy, seriously. "Classic case of Jealousy" hahaha .. Rudy is the BEST..

Rudy explained what is worse for Shivaay. I hope he doesn't see Annika get pulled into Vikram (by accident) or even an accidental fall-catch.. Poor fellow will shred Rudy's punching bag into think strips of feather.😆


Dinner scene: In this scene my whole focus was on the extremely diluted version of Rooh-afsa present in the glasses , whenever they appeared on the screen. I am not taking any of their talks seriously. Just too much into I don't care zone, totally ignoring what they are trying to convey through the scenes.

Waise one question to ask : Didn't Shivaay admitted ki FARAK PDTA HAI ?

It's either they forgot. Or they meant to show that he said whatever needed at the time to get the truth, not that it really mattered he had moved on or not.

Like, "Ok fine, faraq padta hai, alright? Now tell me the big secret. "

Then she goes, "Why does it Faraq to you?"
*facepalm* Somekind of mulberry bush merry-go-round they are sitting on...


Ya toh Annika bhool gyi hai ya mere samjhne mein gadbad hui hai.. like usne bola kisi aur sense mein and main kisi aur sense main samjh gyi ki that He confessed that usse farak pdta hai. Anyways when you are watching a show as a daily ritual( because of your addiction) without justifying or reasoning the actions of the characters, you can actually ignore stuff like this.

Special mention to the small change in the name of the new fiance of Annika- from Vikram to Vikramaditya. Warna I was like saare Rana's ke naam ko recycle karne wale hain yeh log. Pehle Sidharth then this Vikram , kal ko Mallika and Ketki bhi aa jaaenge. Small mercies.

Regards
Rainzz

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Posted: 8 years ago
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First of all thank you so much for the post Anisa. Your posts are always u biased and highlight boths pov.
I am too not getting that how people are calling annika that she only has her ego and pride and doingall this to satisfy her ego. They say she loves her ego n pride more than shivaay and then I roll eyes and say like really

She is still roaming around in OM so what reason does she have to be there? Doesn't it makes her ego or pride less that she is staying there without any named relation.
Yes he admitted in bhang that my happiness is with you but then when you are drunk you become emotional. Even when they both got drunk first before marriage they were sweet talking to each other. He did not say anywhere that he wants her back in his life. She was gifted to him and was not his choice. He asked her to discuss with him but when she tried he yelled at her. Afcourse he was not wrong bcoz no child will believe that his mother can do this but then she also didn't had choice left.
He says fph but when she asked about rags he didn't clarify it why? He said fph h so that she can tell the truth, not bcoz he wants her back in his life. All his doings asking is screaming only one thing I want truth which she isn't able to say.
He let raga speak in between all matters so how is it making her firm that he wants only her.

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