'Tumhein nahin pata tha?' - Page 3

Originally posted by: cssudha

As much as Shivika are emotionally connected to each other, we are emotionally attached to them...so all the forced comedy doesn't really fit them and hence the rage by Shivika fans in the past weeks...It is always these kind of scenes which make Shivika beautiful..Their characteristics, their internal conflicts, their egos, their trust issues and their journey towards love by overcoming their flaws is what Shivika meant to! I'm so happy Shivika are back! Gotta give to Harneet!Can't believe she has written the past baby track...lol!

Loved loved the bedroom scene between Shivika! Narbhi nailed it...And that one reply by Shivaay has hit Anika hard...U can sense from her reaction...I feel, she knew Shivaay love her to that extent but there is a slight fear in accepting it to herself! She may overcome that with Shivaay's confession I guess!

As much as I love Shivaay's growth as a character...would love to see Anika's growth as well! That will fulfill my wish as a Shivika fan and can ever rejoice their journey together!

P.S: Beautiful post <3

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL that's just amazing...so the logic is that when you fall in love with someone, you shouldn't care about your family anymore? 😆 Is this a competition? Anika loves Sahil a lot too...it's a different thing that she's never been placed in a position to CHOOSE b/w Sahil and Shivaay that we are all making presumptions about who she places above whom...I find this to be a very unfair and pointless question to begin with...

Yes, Shivaay is very protective of his family and gets obtusely blind in defending them many times...but to actually just push aside all that he HAS done in overcoming his own flaws to stand up for Anika MANY times...I'm just amazed at how easily both Anika and the audience forget that...LOL it's so easy to play martyr for her.😆

Shivaay did the same for Pari that he's done many times for Anika also...but I suppose Anika wants to be willfully BLIND to that cuz it's easier to observe than to self-introspect? lol

And if she is really so insecure about Shivaay's love for her, why make grand promises to Pinky about how Shivaay will bring her back to the house with full respect and maan? 😕😆

Originally posted by: ashti1234

nothing to add😳

but sharing some gifs i did

unres😆

my first reaction today was the writer has gone mad😆, seriously i'm not joking

be it the NKK between Obros, NKK between Shivika in the room and the precap... it seems the writer has forgotten what happened in previous months of IB😆

but koi nahin, Shivika are such love, that i can take anything for them too

2nd shivika scene:

does SSO think making love doesnt lead to babies? i mean i get he's ashamed at his words, but the SSO who uttered those words and the SSO who accepted Annika pre-separation were two different people, and today's SSO is even more different, the pain of his heartbreak has again changed him a lot, he's more human lately especially since Annika has returned to OM I agree...he's definitely become more vulnerable since Anika's returned to OM...lots of emotions to grapple with as they both fall back into their usual patterns but the pain and heartbreak is still there for them, especially him to grapple with since he doesn't even know why all this happened.

Every few weeks, Harneet debuts a new Shivaay...sau-rangi hai na woh toh...pata nahin Anika ke shades kab dhang se dikhaayengi writer saahiba😆

i was hoping Annika to take one step, SSO to take the other and so on. Especially post that ridiculous biwi No1 challenge, Annika should at least have done something, but nope again SSO will be the one who will do everything, find the truth out, explode, ask sorry from Annika and so, who cares about Annika's insecurities LOL if we're lucky, Harneet will even use Shivaay to EXPLAIN Anika's insecurities to her and then explain her own mistakes to her too😆...everything has to be done by Shivaay only...cuz Anika ka khud ka dimaag toh hai nahin😆

Originally posted by: angel_nonu

Her insecurities are not only about his love for her. She has inbuilt fear in her that no loved one stays with her. She has this fear that with her always trailer comes of happiness but actual movie is full of sorrow. She has fought with world in her each step and there was no one to actually love her to this extent like shivaay does so for it is kind of miracle/dream which she doesn;t want to believe that it is real bcoz as per her thought it will go away after sometimes. Shivaay placing his family above her and yelling at her knowing she was not at fault (although he did not do it intentionally) added more to her fear. Not only, she has seen Shivaay;s NKK obsession that to which extent he can go for his NKK, she has seen him flip towards his feeling, She has seen him openly accepting that NKK matters in case of Rudy's marriage proposal although he was changing that time, Of couse she has seen him changing too, she has seen that he was struggling about her NKK. In all this where is the part which actually resolves her insecurities.

Shivaay also can not do much here until he knows that she has such fear, He knows little but he does not know that it is in built in her to this extent more than NKK was in his - yes I do feel that annika's fear of abandonment is bigger than Shivaay's NKK.

She needs to realise that why is she not enough for Shivaay, She needs to understand that love is not weakness but it is strength. She needs to realise that you do not leave your loved one's even for their betterment but you fight the world for togetherness

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I agree...he's definitely become more vulnerable since Anika's returned to OM...lots of emotions to grapple with as they both fall back into their usual patterns but the pain and heartbreak is still there for them, especially him to grapple with since he doesn't even know why all this happened.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yeah I guess we'll just have to fundamentally disagree on this point. Maybe I've been watching a different show all along then. When Shivaay's entire growth as a character is discounted for any instance where he may have faltered, then this whole discussion does indeed become moot.

He's NEVER respected her? NEVER given her the benefit of doubt? Did we watch the same set of circumstances play out during the NT track or was it something else? He gave Anika PLENTY of benefit of doubt within the range of the situation until it built up to a circumstance that was just going south...THEN he exploded...and yes he has an anger issue which can't obviously evaporate overnight...it's a personality trait...but I'm amazed at how everyone is willing only to fixate on the words that get said in anger rather than the AMENDS that were made afterwards, the willingness to ACKNOWLEDGE your flaws and mistakes counts for nothing?

Yes, Anika is a big ol' softie who forgives him too easily many times but at the same time, Shivaay HAS come a long way so for everyone to constantly vilify him while giving a free pass to Anika's half-baked insecurities...yeah sorry that doesn't fly with me...the writers have not done a good job in either establishing or addressing her insecurities and I don't buy this excuse of justifying everything via WAY past incidents when Shivaay used to struggle with acknowledging her as his wife...with the biwi declaration and many incidents after that, he redeemed himself a LOT...including in the NKK track which I dunno why everyone wants to discount for convenience.

Let's not even get into the seperation then cuz it seems like everyone here wants to give Anika a FREE PASS for her behavior that day😆...no I'm not going to count her words that day cuz I don't appreciate PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE rants where all along you bichhao yourself for someone and one fine day simply for a lameass plan to get them to throw you out, THEN you bring out a whole pitara of grudges in the most ruthless possible manner...you want me to APPLAUD her for that? Yeah I'm not going to, sorry😆...cuz the WAY you say something matters...I'm supposed to applaud Anika for NOW talking about being disrespected in the house conveniently when she herself was willing to make excuses for Pinky to Shivaay for the LONGEST time before? Oh please😆

Are people still going to fixate on the touching Daksh's feet issue? For real? 😆 In a show that shows a bazillion things for shock value and promptly forgets, that's the last thing I'm going to fixate on considering the biwi declaration that came after that...yeah I choose to look at the AMENDS a person makes for their blunders rather than fixate on past mistakes constantly and pretending nothing has evolved since then.

Originally posted by: kinnika

I agree completely! I wanted to say this too, but you expressed it perfectly. For a girl like Annika, who's not known love, these insecurities are not surprising at all. And I feel one only feels as secure in a relationship as the other person makes them feel. Shivaay did assure her that he wants to spend his life with her, but under what terms? When does she become expendable? Well, as soon as she questions the other members of the family, as it turns out.

They both have a lot of work to do on this relationship. I hope we get to see it.

Originally posted by: kinnika

I see that we will have to agree to disagree. 😊

@bold: built up to a point where it went south? You mean when she told him his mom was involved I guess? Of course, that must not be tolerated. And what "amends" exactly?

@blue: Like you feel the writers have not fleshed out her insecurities, I do not feel they have done a good job with his 'redemption' (I do hate that word). To acknowledge the woman you married is your wife, or to slowly get over your unhealthy, bigoted, and extremely arrogant and misplaced views about NKK are not worthy of APPLAUSE either, at least not in the world I live in.

@red: It was cruel, she knew it would hurt, and that was the intention. She played him, no one is asking for applause. It was wrong, especially the way it was done. Nobody expects a free pass. But fact of the matter is, both were at fault. No one keeps divorce papers ready and throws his wife out for her behavior on one particular afternoon, and then doesn't think about what happened, why it happened, or provide for her for the next 3 months. They are two flawed individuals in an extremely flawed relationship, and that's what makes it relate-able.. at least for me.

@green: No argument there, see above.

@Pink: what excuses for her? Wanting him to not hurt his mom?

@Purple: I don't know about 'people', but I will, yes... as one of the many instances where he has placed some other member of the family before Annika. The last of which was 2/3 days before the separation, and immediately before SR attempt number 1.

I get that you feel defensive of Shivaay. I love Shivaay myself, did not villify him, or at least never intended to. I just don't feel Annika's insecurity in the relationship is unfounded, is all.. and the reason for that can be attributed to character flaws of both the people involved.😊