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Posted: 8 years ago
#91
Well written post!
Why does she stick around fighting with tia for a man who humiliated her in every possible way!!!? I have switched to WU mode now. It's way below my taste. But seems like TRP skyrocketed! it will just motivate CVS to be more mean.😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: -Fedex-

Loved reading everyone's point of view. I mentioned in Anjum's post that the show that reached a new low for me. GK and her shows have always been regressive but this time GK has gone to a new low with Shivay actually assaulting Anika. It was extremely depressing to read the written updates so I decided to skip it altogether. I haven't seen the epsiodes in a while and just stick to reading updates but even that is fading fast with time. I don't watch any other hindi show and decided to give this one a try but now I think I will be jumping ship very soon if the story continues in this trajectory.

They have butchered all the characters in the name of TRP's and now they are the slot leaders? Really? How do women of any generation watching this, think this is ok? I don't ever want my daughter to watch this and think that is okay for a guy to do this to a girl. Don't we all reprimand our kids when they push someone in school or playground? That is not acceptable behaviour, so why is it acceptable when it's done by a good looking male lead?

A lot of people on this forum defended his actions, claiming he is character and because it wasn't rape why do we even need to talk about it. If young girls and women feel this way then there is no hope for women in the future. If this is what young girls think, it's extremely sad state of affairs. How will we ever get out these prejudices and make our marks in society?

There are so many posts on the forum that want Anika to be with another man. Why does she need a man to make something of herself in society. She was fully capable of taking care of her brother before why not now?

How can the bad be the new good? Seriously is that even appropriate? I am just flabbergasted at the idea that this show is produced by a woman, written by a women and loved by women who think this is acceptable?

Sorry for so many questions but I am one frustrated viewer




Ditto to everything you have said! I would tell my daughter when she is old enough that men who dont respect you, and judge you and think they can treat you anyway they like is not acceptable for her. She is not any man's fool. The same thing that my Mother told me! I dont care if no one agrees with me, but if I see something is wrong, I will say it is wrong. In this case Shivaay is wrong and he has NO excuse to have acted as he had. No justification. He has behaved almost like a criminal. But because he is rich and famous he can get away with it. (THAT part is actually true).


Women expressing sentiments that suggest they think Annika ASKED for this, is the most disturbing thing of all. I agree she should never have involved herself in Shivaay's business. But in this case, she didn't invite it, it came to her. Then she gets abused and victimized. But NOW, instead of demanding her freedom and compensation for mental torture she is on "Ek Chutki Sindoor" rant and acting like she is Shivaay's wife that he married because he wanted to. The fact is, Shivaay just used her, and now he wants nothing more to do with her. If she had any self-respect she would not be trying to "Act" as his wife, when he introduced another woman as his wife to the public. But showing Annika as an Abala Nari with no self-respect and trying to fight for her Mangalsutra and Sindoor Haq is getting high TRP.

I even saw a snippet of an interview that Surbhi gave saying "Sindoor and Mangalsutra" is very important to Annika? I mean come on...? Seriously? When was she shown as someone who valued all that? Never is the answer. Her character has done a 360 turn because they want TRP and this is what gets it? Showing a woman as a victim of a rich man? It is truly a sad state of affairs! The fact is, Shivaay has no right to judge Annika for anything that happened with Daksh! What part of that dont people get? She was not his wife, his fiancee or his girlfriend! He had NO rights on her at all. So to use that ONS MU or whatever BS theory is a joke! MEN don't decide what a woman can do, and her worth. Who is Shivaay to decide that Annika is characterless? Also, how is it his business? Is HE giving character certificates to people? Gul Khan really should grow up and get a grip. She thinks this stuff is Cool? I didn't like her before this because of the way she ruined her last show. But now my dislike has turned into disdain. I have no words for her. At least EK doesn't go on Social media and gush about her badly behaved ML! That may be because she has at least 6 successful shows. So I guess she doesn't have the time!



Edited by MrDarcyfan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#93
@MrDarcyFan and -Fedex-

I agree with the two of you. I would never want my daughters to grow up thinking they are no more than bodies to be used and thrown. I wouldn't want them to think that it is okay for a man to treat them as dirt. Being a woman doesn't mean I am no more than a body. I am much more than that I will not have anyone tell me otherwise!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shivaay needs to be in jail now😡. He gave divorce papers to Anika n then sold her house so she has no where to go. And seeing Sahil crippled he is teln dat Sahil will not go anywhere n he will take care of his education or sumthn like dat. And girls r going gaga over his actions dat he did it so dat Anika lives in his house only not having any option. Again Shivaay is supported wen he badly needs to be in jail for many years. Did bas***d is again n again making Anika dependent on him n again n again using Sahil. Do he have any humanity left or wat? How can he sell her house? I now want Ishaana to return n con Oberois enough to bring them on d streets or Oberois themselves to go bankrupt like Yasaran family. And Shivaay is supported by d same ople who were hating Ishaana for being a conwoman.
Edited by angel_juhi04 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#95
There is nothing nayi about this ghatiya soch that they are showing. It's horribly regressive and feeds the patriarchal society we are largely surrounded by. You, and many others on this thread, have pointed that out very eloquently. How do people even begin to think it's okay to behave in this manner. The way Shivaay has treated her has been horrific. And can someone please sit Dadi down and drive it home to her that what Shivaay did was not something that can brushed away as an indulgent "bewakoofi"!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#96
Very well written!!!!
The present track itself is irritating, and incorporating romance is even more irritating.
first they have to tone down shitai ,anika should give it back and more importantly daadi should stop giving gyaan on marriage .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I have been generally an on-off viewer of the series and a silent reader of this forum. Though I had some major issues with it from the very beginning with this series, it used be a kind of a laugh riot for me during the initial phases after a hard day's toil.

I was really wanting to write something like this from the last couple of weeks, but was being compelled to relent after going through posts after posts containing bashing of so called feminists or feminazis for voicing opinions which are truths as clear as daylight. People are being advised to change their channels for not supporting the ML and what not, which is really disturbing. It's really great to find such posts where people do have the guts to call a spade a spade. Bang on each and everyone.

I have actually no hope from the PH. But, I am disgusted with what Star Plus is dishing out for quite some time for the sake of TRPs and in the name of entertainment. The same channel which has aired series' like "Ek Hazaaron Mein Meri Bahna Hai", "Miley Jab Hum Tum" etc. are promoting such utterly regressive and abominable concepts !!! Just putting a disclaimer does not help. If some channel is airing such concepts/scenes, then they are actually willingly supporting it as well. And the funny thing is they are stupid enough to prove my POV as well. The country that I am currently residing, the channel actually edited the pushing, throwing and manhandling bits (of that now famous and so called "passionate" pre-wedding sequence) as far as it could have. Such double standard hypocrites !!!

I am really surprised at the ignorance of the people who are saying that real does not imitate reel. I can still remember a film named "Pratibandh" (if I can remember the name correctly), starring Juhi Chawla and Nagarjuna, was banned by the government as it was widely speculated that the movie plot somehow influenced the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi. I did know about that St. Xavier's murder incident, but never did I imagine that it can be that gruesome and influenced by reel life.

I have gone through numerous disappointments on Indian TV, which have actually left me hopeless that FL can ever be strong and can have even an ounce of self-respect. I imagine that I've been the only viewer of IPKKND (who had left the series midway with utter disappointment), who was equally disgusted with super aggressive Arnav and almost always hyper-ventilating Khushi to the core for being the first graded jerk and ablaa naari respectively. But Shivaay's actions and Annika's reactions till this day have surpassed each of my past experiences and have literally left me dumbfounded, in fact nauseating would be the proper word. Annika has actually proved that Newton's Third Law of Motion is wrong !!!! How can a sane human-being let one's own self being humiliated like this shit !!! It is simply beyond my understanding from when manhandling, assaulting, threatening of undressing & raping, threatening of killing a kid are being equated to passionate love !!! And making excuse of that ONS is simply illogical. Did Shivaay ever bother to confess that he is in love with Annika !!! Instead he was happily getting married to some other girl while chanting 24X7 his naam khoon khandaan jaap. So, what Annika did or did not is none of his business. I suppose his expectation was that he would happily lead his married life, while Annika would be forever waiting for him remaining a virgin to prove that she is trustworthy!! Anyways, ONS or not, he would have acted in the same way in the name of his so called family status. And now this never-ending Sindur, Mangalsutra jaap. I myself do respect these, but when the marriage itself has been executed in such diabolical manner (forced marriage is a crime) and above all without any consent of one of the halves, how these sacred symbolisms of the same can be valued !!!! Damnable to it's core.

Anyways, a long rant for a first timer. But I imagine all was piling up for some time.
Edited by chandrima02 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan




<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Ditto to everything you have said! I would tell my daughter when she is old enough that men who dont respect you, and judge you and think they can treat you anyway they like is not acceptable for her. She is not any man's fool. The same thing that my Mother told me! I dont care if no one agrees with me, but if I see something is wrong, I will say it is wrong. In this case Shivaay is wrong and he has NO excuse to have acted as he had. No justification. He has behaved almost like a criminal. But because he is rich and famous he can get away with it. (THAT part is actually true).</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Women expressing sentiments that suggest they think Annika ASKED for this, is the most disturbing thing of all. I agree she should never have involved herself in Shivaay's business. But in this case, she didn'tinvite it, it came to her. Then she gets abused and victimized. But NOW, instead of demanding her freedom and compensation for mental torture she is on "Ek Chutki Sindoor" rant and acting like she is Shivaay's wife that he married because he wanted to. The fact is, Shivaay just used her, and now he wants nothing more to do with her. If she had any self-respect she would not be trying to "Act" as his wife, when he introduced another woman as his wife to the public. But showing Annika as an Abala Nari with no self-respect and trying to fight for her Mangalsutra and Sindoor Haq is getting high TRP.</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I even saw a snippet of an interview that Surbhi gave saying "Sindoor and Mangalsutra" is very important to Annika? I mean come on...? Seriously? When was she shown as someone who valued all that? Never is the answer. Her character has done a 360 turn because they want TRP and this is what gets it? Showing a woman as a victim of a rich man? It is truly a sad state of affairs! The fact is, Shivaay has no right to judge Annika for anything that happened with Daksh! What part of that dont people get? She was not his wife, his fiancee or his girlfriend! He had NO rights on her at all. So to use that ONS MU or whatever BS theory is a joke! MEN don't decide what a woman can do, and her worth. Who is Shivaay to decide that Annika is characterless? Also, how is it his business? Is HE giving character certificates to people? Gul Khan really should grow up and get a grip. She thinks this stuff is Cool? I didn't like her before this because of the way she ruined her last show. But now my dislike has turned into disdain. I have no words for her. At least EK doesn't go on Social media and gush about her badly behaved ML! That may be because she has at least 6 successful shows. So I guess she doesn't have the time!</font>






Hey Hey!

You crack me up! I have seen your writing prowess on the EDKV forum. Was a silent reader then too and I am not too active on this forum. Were you also part of Humsafars forum? 😊

I agree with you wholeheartedly that EK doesn't need to sell her shows because people are used to watching the same stuff she recycles. She knows that saas-bahu drama sells and she shows exactly that. To be honest, who watches her shows they know what they are getting into. But GK pretends to be in a different league and she isn't. She has made the show exactly like EK shows where the mangalsutra and sindoor business is being thrown around. Anika is beyond butchered. Her attitude stinks. She is just taking all that wrath from a vamp who wears skimpy clothes and looks even more cheap. Why can't they dress Tia properly? The stuff GK is dishing out these days is really grating to a whole new level of filth. Also because she is now the slot leader so there will be more Tia-Anika war. TRP aunties must be loving the Anika who is fighting for her mangalsutra and sindoor for a guy who gives two hoots about her!!!! 👏

I should just stick to watching Western shows and football and be happy that my team is finally on top of the premier league after a disastrous last season!!! Enough of this nonsense. I am hardly watching these days. I watched 5 days worth of episodes in less than 20 mins. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Toota_ShiSha




woahhh best comment here hands down ...


give her a cookie



Bro. You totally got me craving some cookies, now.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: richa1792

Umm, didn't you get the memo?

You see, apparently, people here know this is a fiction show. They understand the difference between reel and real life. And as long as Anika is abused on clean, white sheets, everything is okay.

I have been called a feminist (which I agree to), an activist (which, unfortunately, I am not), a teacher giving lectures (hopefully, someday.) and a lawyer (how much do they earn?). I have been asked to carry my propaganda elsewhere as this is not the place for 'your self righteous thoughts.' People have also mocked and bullied anybody who has shown that they have working brain cells.

The fact that Anika is being blamed because poor Shivaay baby ka dulhan bhaag gaya is ludicrous. Just because life is shitty to you does not mean that you get to shit on everyone else. Poor Shivaay baby lurves Anika and he's just mad because of Daksh. Um, hello? You are marrying some one else. The fact that she is a gold digging she demon is irrelevant because you don't know about that. If Anika wants to have sex with every Tom, Dick and Harry, what's it to you, bruh? This whole Alpha man tendency of a Harlequin hero gets old really fast.

Don't even get me started on Annika. Since Romi's track has probably ended, she has decided t be the new devi. I am really confused regarding her character graph. Wasn't she the one who had said that she doesn't believe in love and all that love tries to sell in front of Mallika? Now, suddenly, she is the quintessential bollywood 60's ka heroine with sindoor and mangalsutra, which she conveniently decided to not wear during reception because, f**k continuity. It is very surprising to me that she is staying at OM because of Dadi and leaving Sahil alone to Saumya. Does she not understand that this new change in equation, this new earthquake effects him as well? His psyche must also be shaken. He is a kid. He must be confused. But hey, dadi bola bahu, toh bahu. No matter if she gets insulted on a regular basis. Some role model!

I have been screaming myself hoarse that "Life imitates art and vice versa.'
All I get in return are guarantees that no bad effect is going to come because of this track, because we are all prophets of God and can predict the actions of billions of people around the world.

Patriarchy - 1.
Women everywhere - 0.


Thanks for cracking me up😆😆
Well written👏

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