Delayed Reactions and Declarations - Page 2

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: The question right now isn't really of acceptance...the question is about hurt and anger. I don't think either Anika or Shivaay are consciously thinking about acceptance regarding this marriage...both of them are mainly grappling with immense hurt...and in Shivaay's case there is more anger too. He's basically been kinda off his rocker since the ONS MU...he feels betrayed by Anika on some level but doesn't even want to acknowledge that he feels that...cuz acknowledging that would mean he also has to acknowledge that he's hurt, that she affects him...and that's when he starts unraveling. He's hurt because he had started to trust her, started to admit to the "jo humaare beech"...now all that's gone for a toss. Ofcourse he won't stop to introspect that he was busy getting ready to marry Tia in the background regardless😆...he still feels hurt by Anika and to counter that, he clings to the other extreme...becoming absolutely stone-hearted, stone-faced again and repeating his claims over and over about how none of this means anything.

I almost feel like he needs to keep repeating that also because he doesn't want to COPE with the magnitude of what he's done to Anika...it's easier to dismiss it, deny it, pretend it hardly happened rather than process the level to which he fell in doing this...cuz each time his brothers bring it up, there is that slight chink in his armor even as he tries to coldly dismiss their emotional pleas.

In Anika's case also, they are keeping the dialogues mainly focussed on her hurt over what has happened to her, the blow she's been dealt in such a horrible way...the actual reality of the marriage might be acknowledged on a subconscious level vis a vis the MS but on a conscious level, I don't think Anika's mind is there at all...she's moving through the rasams and events like a robot...her heart and mind aren't there...she's still in trauma...which is why she barely even reacts much when Shivaay repeats to her yet again today that he doesn't believe in this marriage and the divorce will come through again...she has this matter of fact expression on her face like she isn't even surprised by what he's saying...it's only when he says, "Kuch hua hi nahin" that she reacts.

There is a pain in the silence b/w them because even though the debate is all about the acknowledgement of the shaadi right now, neither of them is willing to bring up the real source of the hurt...that they both feel let down and hurt by each other...the shaadi is just a prop and a technicality everyone is dancing around...the crux of their relationship is bigger than that and they both know, but they won't say it lest the other accuse them of actually caring.

Originally posted by: YoonHiChala

The flashbacks sorta got him back on track and in typical Billu fashion, he announced Tia as his wife in front of the world in his mission to get a kick out of Annika assuming that she'd get super depressed over this. His claims about doing all this to maintain family honour was all in the background here but of course he'd use that to justify his doings but that has more to do with Billu justifying to HIMSELF that Annika doesn't bother him the slightest and he's doing everything for his family. All of this works on a feedback loop and further fuels his anger and hurt and then some more anger and hurt caused by the fact that the reason for his anger and hurt is HER.


Then to cope with all of this, he resorts to his defense mechanism like you said. Becoming stone-hearted and getting defensive at every given opportunity. For Annika, she's also accepted the marriage but it has more to do with her belief in the institution itself rather than her accepting Shivaay as husband. So she's unconsciously accepted the fact that she's married now but she wants nothing to do with Shivaay...if that makes sense. This would explain her behaving like a robot and doing all the post-marriage rasams.


In the episode in Annika's house, Billu was also upset nah when she said she doesn't accept this marriage? Notice how Annika is hardly bothered when he does the same. This indicates that in the future he's gonna run circles around her in desperation of wanting her to acknowledge him as her husband and not vice versa.


Your last para is spot on! Couldn't have said it better myself. :)

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Re: acceptance...lol I've been blanking out the shaadi FBs combined with Daadi ke torturous lectures😆...but yes I guess they show on a technical level the awareness of the magnitude of the marriage in both their minds...my point was mainly about the emotional acceptance of it. Anika respects the institution, yes but I think she is mainly going through the rasams cuz of Daadi only...and in Shivaay's case, I'm not sure if it's the actual marriage that he struggles to deny or the significance of having ATTACHED himself to Anika that he now scrambles to deny/undo😆


LOL, I've been blanking since that grehapravesh wala episode itself...😆 It might just be both in the case of Shivaay. Cuz knowing Billu, he only gets super defensive when he is cognizant of the particular issue in question. Denial is always his first and foremost cerebral response to being faced with situation he WANTS to embrace at an unconscious level but can't because of all the raita that's phailaoed around it. He HATES the fact that he's in such a conundrum over this and that in itself must exacerbate his anger and hurt even more and the vicious cycle continues, operating almost at an inception level. Saw a BTS where Oberois family friends came to congratulate the newly weds and Billu blurts out Annika's name when he went to receive their gift. 😆

Given how callously Shivaay treats the whole institution, rituals and everything associated with it, I doubt he has any real cognition of marriage...but he is inexplicably feeling that attachment via this institution to Anika and that sends him into hyper denial mode, scrambling to switch the frequency to Tia instead😆...

EXACTLYY!! 😆

It was interesting that Shivaay BURST OUT today when Om told him he was WRONG...the way Shivaay then LASHED out saying that he is NOT wrong, he is absolutely RIGHT and did what was best for the family...that also gives insight into the convoluted layers Shivaay has built up for himself here...he is DESPERATE to prove himself RIGHT again...even though no logic will justify why he specifically needed to put Anika through this to "save the family izzat"...if any girl could do, he could have picked any girl...what he fails to admit to himself and anyone who questions him is that it had to be Anika because his rage was specifically directed at her...there was no majboori...that was but at an excuse, and she ended up being the outlet for his rage...it would entail him admitting that there was a lot riding in his mind, including the MU about Daksh and it all combusted into what he pulled with this shaadi...but ofcourse he will never admit it...easier to hide behind his image of doing everything right for the family😆

He's been lying to himself all along that he's doing all this for his family. All his logic goes for a toss when it comes to Annika, even his family goes in to the background. 😆 This forced shaaadi ka stunt that he has pulled is nothing but mindless revenge for her cuz she made him reach breaking point and because he returns every debt with interest he had to break her as well, using her weakness (Sahil) to break her strength (self-respect). But as always, he has gotten no joy out of it and ulta he's increased his load of guilt which is gonna feed into his feedback loop of hurt and anger. He conveniently uses his family as a smoke screen to hide his real intentions (and top of that he's in denial about his real intentions too). 😆

LOL yes, he did look miffed when Anika said she doesn't accept the marriage...Billu is one confused soul...he definitely looks more affected than Anika right now regarding the marriage and he will definitely lose his shit further along in desperately wanting her acceptance, but Anika may not be in the mood to forgive😆

Then again, you never know with this girl...unfortunately badi jaldi pighal jaati hai kanji aakhon waale Billu ke saamne... 😆


I share the same fear! Bechaari...satrangi kanji aankhon ki maari.