Splash! - Page 7

Originally posted by: .Avengers.

Apologies for butting in but sensible discussions like this just make me itch to post😆

I am not really surprised seeing the romanticizing of yesterday's epi and previous one. People say they are not supporting the act but then . . . Whereis the place for but if you really disagree with the way he act? Then pages of justification that how he was in character and what do we expect! My favorite line is the scene was very hawwt, return of ML👏 so you see while many are like ohh it was inhuman at the end of day all are siding with character. This is where we as a viewers are going wrong. We have these double standards when serial air we have a view and then we change it. After a while all are forgiven cause 1) the couple is meant to be no point of discussion 2) soon we will get hawwt scene minus these physical assault so what the hell!

These justification that character is Grey that's why it's fine is such a BS. Let's cut down fancy words, shall we? Grey is someone who's willing to cross the line then come back. Black or villain has no line. White is saint. When I say line i think we all know what kind of barrier that is. Threatening to kill a kid, saying he can undress a girlr and stuff is way above the line. Now let's go back to Early ekta days. Remember the quintessential villain guy with smirk and hate and raping another character? Didn't we despise them? Wanted them to die or get punishment? why not now? Cause these shows or books are selling the same villain to us with senty(or not) back story, love/obsession for a girl and good looks. We are failing to see behind the glitter the same person is there. We don't see the heinous acts and justify it. That was character! What do you expect?!

All we can do is discuss these things but problem is the PH itself loves these things. Why won't they? She has backing from phans who shuts down every word of criticism by yelling 'Character!' 'Feminist!'🥱

You can see it . . . 70+ likes for a post glorifying how so in character the epi was, while these posts discussing the follies mostly taken over by stans

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

And I dare Gul to make a show wid a female character like Shivaay who is torturing d main lead. Dekhna show 1 mahina bhi nahi chalega. Gaaliyon ki bouchhaar will start coming for dat female lead 4m dat 1 of d show.

Actually Ekta showed heroine strong in a historical show which ran 2 years. Being historical show, d hero never hurt or insult d heroine in a bad way. Now there is one more historical show of Ekta on Star itself where d heroine is grey-shaded even wanting to kill d hero but people hates her n calls her irritating. They don't want her opposite d hero but another heroine who is sweet n innocent. Very few people love dat heroine.

Originally posted by: Arshi67

His actions have been nothing short of sadistic and downright cruel. He is the hero. Ergo everything is explainable and ultimately justifiable. Apparently.


They have deliberately tried to show that he is doing this for his family, time and again juxtaposing their collective joy with his turbulent thoughts, and having him dance with them to emphasise the softness that is in him when it comes to them. And then the very prominently shown change when he takes off his headgear. Dadi's Billu to SSO. To keep them smiling, he is willing to do anything. As in, it excuses the atrocities he's inflicting on the girl. Because after all, it keeps the happiness intact on Dadi's face. Not to forget maintaining the khaandaan ki izzat in front of society and business rivals.

All those stylised actions in the scene when he corners her, don't in any way hide the sheer brutality of his actions. And then to have her sink in relief against him, seeking solace from the one who's toying with her, torturing her, was just shocking. Have the CVs been reading, when "Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind. Nor hath Love's mind of any judgement taste; Wings, and no eyes, figure unheedy haste." when they had Annika tell him at one point that he lost the plot upon reading Tia's little goodbye note?! To indicate she understands where he's coming from?! To already build up his redemption.

There's no denying there's evil in the world, it's this appalling attempt at justifying it that I have an issue with. It has as much to do with being humane as it does with feminism no?

Originally posted by: -Fedex-

Hello to everyone here and it was really good to read everyone's views. I might have failed to pressed Like for all the posts and I will go back and do that eventually 😊

I haven't watched this week's episodes yet because I cringed at reading the written updates. I might decide to skip the episodes altogether.

GK has always been a sadist. But this isn't new to GK shows but she has stooped to a new level in my opinion. She could have shown hatred from SSO's side in a much low key way that does not show any bodily harm. What he did was actually assaulting her. I have no idea how young girls or any women on the forum or twitter or any other medium think this is okay. There are so many posts in the forum that say that its justifiable for him to do what he did because he acted in character. Its disturbing to be very frank.

I work in a very male dominated industry where I have had to work extra hard to move up the food chain, so to speak. If young girls these days think that it's acceptable for a man to treat a woman like this then it's a harsh reality in the real world. We already have so many prejudices to overcome and to add to this list is male domination.

Not to take anything away from the actors, they did a fantastic job. Both Surbhi and Nakul are amazing actors but I am sure these scenes might have been hard for them to enact as well.

Originally posted by: richa1792

You want to know the most f**ked up thing? I read a comment in a thread where a girl was saying 'okay , yes, Sshivaay manhandled Annika. But he did not kill her or rape her, so whats the big deal?'

It makes me sick! To think that women think it's okay, acceptable, even hot for a man to push them around is despicable. It reminds me of Trump's "grab'em by the pu**y comment" and how republican women defended him saying that women like being grabbed. It's horrible and scary.

See, we are not stupid. We know this is a fictional show, we know that Shivvay and annika will end up together, no matter if he redeems himself or not. The reason we are showing our disgust is because life imitates art and vice versa. If you show your lead actor doing such actions that means you are telling the world it's okay to do so to the girl that you love. That they will like it. Spoiler alert : We Don't!

And all of the women who are defending his actions right now, I don't know what they'll say if they actually meet a victim of abuse some day. "Hey, it was your fault? Why did you interfere? You should be in your lakshman rekha like a good little lady? It's your fault that he did what he did? You made him do it?"

It's pathetic, really.

Originally posted by: KreyaArshiLover

Sorry to butt in. The comment that girl made made think, We always talk about how men doesn't respect woman but does we ourselves respect each other? When a girl gets raped or gets eve teased women say that it's the girls fault. When there is a divorce it's the woman's fault. When we ourselves doesn't respect our own gender why should we ask men to respect us?

Originally posted by: -Fedex-

Hi Richa!

I have read that same post I think and a few more where people have gone ahead and justified his actions and said its not rape so why use that word. Some like you said have gone even further and said that its okay whatever happened, they will be together in the end. That is what GK does. She has created a cult following. She is a woman herself. But you know the saying, women are women's worst enemy.

Shows like this have a lot of affect on women. How do people not see that? this is maybe my 4th Hindi show and I think I get really worked up and quit eventually. I don't survive many shows and haven't seen the end of most of them.

Don't get me started on Trump..i didn't sleep that entire night of election. I finally went to bed at 3am when Hillary was losing Florida and Pennsylvania. I knew if she lost both she cannot win it. I have such bad luck, I now live in a country that voted for Brexit and I am citizen of a country that voted for Trump!!!!!!!!!!! 😡

and btw I am a democrat...my state voted for Hillary..thank god for small mercies... 😊

Originally posted by: richa1792

Exactly! You would not believe how many women on this forum use 'feminism' in a sarastic, patronizing way. They have no bloody idea about the centuries of struggle women have taken up on their behalf, on our behalf. I see 'white feminism' and 'psuedo feminism' used a lot. What the f**k is that? Personally, I thik its complete bullshit. Yes, the West is more progressed and morre privileged than us. That does not mean sexism doesn't exist. They too have a wage gap. They too have rapes and domestic abuse and many other things. Just because our circumstances are relatively more difficult doesn't mean they have no right to fight for their rights. If we apply the theory of relativiy, then only a single person in the whole wide world is supposed o be sad because somebody else will always have it worse. And only a single person is supposed to be happy for the same logic.

To be honest, this forum has become even worse than buzzfeed comment section. It makes me sick.

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

I was bullied on d only post I made on dis forum. Why others needs to comments on my post if they don't agree wen I don't comment on their posts? I was called a feminist in a mocking way as if its d baddest word in d entire world. So speaking against wrong means feminist?

Originally posted by: richa1792

Honey, when they call you a feminist (even in a mocking way), you stand tall and you wear it with pride. You wear it with pride for the women who have struggled for centuries so their voices are heard. You wear it with pride for our mothers who work so hard to bring us up and take care of our house and all they get as thanks is being called a 'housewife' in a condescending way. You wear it with pride for us, who are struggling to make the society understand that we have full right to an education and relationships and sex. You wear it for every woman ever who was ever degraded and looked down on and you promise yourself that you'll do better. That you will take a stand against what is wrong, that you will speak up for your rights and you don't give two shits about people who think that you should keep mum and stand in a corner like a good girl.

I am not trying to be preachy but I am really pissed seeing the reactions of everyone on this forum and I couldn't stop myself.

Sending you love❤️