A Toast || The Infuation with Violence - Page 3

Originally posted by: LilyJames0194

This is such an on-point post! There have been others too on the forum which have raised some very good points: why are such regressive thoughts being packaged as entertainment in today's India?

I used to love the characters and actually thought that Ishqbaaz would be an overall interesting show (looking at some of the early episodes and the technical budget).. but I think I am done.

True love is an intense journey, absolutely! Dramatic sure, but no where abusive.

I don't care whether the production house claims it's all part of a long term track wherein they will eventually try and say that this was not okay - SSO reformation or something on the lines. This episode was NOT OKAY.

The girl slept with someone for money, so? That does not give you the license to manhandle her.

She interfered in something that was not directly her matter? So? That does not give you the right to manhandle her?

She slapped you because of your comment. That slap was not a challenge. It was an absolute refusal.

You could be some form of God himself and a no would still mean a freaking no.

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Originally posted by: zeherili

You happened to pen down my feelings the way I felt, exactly. This is not something new nor is it really going away at some point. The fact that we know that Anika will inevitably end up with Shivaay at some point is probably what gets me. For someone who didn't want Daksh to touch her, or at the Sangeet when he stated that "No" means "No"- where was all that today? Where was the man who fought for equality, respect, and consent of women today as he threatened the life of a child, manhandled a woman, threatened to rape her?

I felt my skin crawl today at Shivaay's behaviour and to show this in a show where "Nayi Soch" is supposed to be present is disgusting.

Do the CVs not realize that this is the reality that so many people go through everyday and to trivialize it is despicable.

Originally posted by: twerping

As I said, even if Anika later on fights back, I don't see how Shivaay's character can be redeemed. He threw her around like a sack today. That is something that visually was so revolting to many of us.

I started to watch the show a little late in the day and so have missed the episode you refer to, but yes, Shivay has repeatedly been shown as speaking up for women's rights... but I guess that is all for show. He is someone who will not hesitate to physically bully a woman. I guess that is just the way he is but he needs to be taught what it is to be a gentleman rather than being a boor.

Originally posted by: LilyJames0194

And I really think that this show has taken the name and the definition of 'khaandaani, khoon, naam' a little too far. His lineage, his global higher studies, and his life experiences all amount to absolutely nothing after today. Because believe me, if he was actually anything that he was or his family keep claiming he is - they should be ashamed today. Even in maddening all-consuming rage there is chivalry (and I don't mean that strictly because he is dealing with a woman here... but more generally towards another person).

Khaandani log aise nahi hote.

Just had the weirdest visual - imagine a royal family person behaving this way in today'/ that mes behind closed doors? One media leak and the entire family would be facing some extremely serious legal charges plus societal rejection.

You know what was the most ironic think? What, in this complete f**ked-up, misogynistic, a slap to women everywhere kind of episode, pissed me off the most?

It was Shivaay's whole ideology. You see, he wanted to marry Richa because she had a prestigious khandaan. He cannot stop crowing about his lineage and his blue blood and his stupid izzat. Yet, his actions are that of an uneducated man with deep familial issues whose dad must have beaten his mom and taught him that women deserve to be treated like this. He, who has been educated from one of the most prestigious business schools in the world. He, whose whole house runs on the word of his grand mother. He, who was so liberal with his 'morals' when Riddhima wanted to move in with O.

He is the same person who is pushing a woman, pulling her hair, and indulging in criminal activities. There is no way what he did to Sahil isn't illegal. So Shivaay darling, pray tell, what blue blooded aristocrat with tehzeeb does this?

I was disgusted with him today. And that was the reason I absolutely loved today's episode. Because of the fact that I didn't even feel an ounce of sympathy for him. That I didn't want to defend him. We tend to do that, don't we? Defend our heroes and actions, no matter how unjustifiable they are. Today, I didn't want to do that. Today, I wanted Anika to run as fast as she can. Today, I wasn't rooting for a happy ending. Or may be I was. Because honestly, anything without Shivaay is a happy ending for Anika.

P.S. I think Nakul should take a bow. For the first time today, I was completely bowled over by his performance. For me, today was the day he decided to be Shivaay and not just wear him as a mask which he could take off when he gets off. Today, they weren't two different entities.

Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7

I don't think it was meant to be romantic at all...

It was a scene of a humiliated man, who lost his marbles and lashed out at her. He's gone off the rails and behaved very badly. He will pay for it.

All his Khoon Khandaan Naam fixations was leading to this. I don't think it was meant to teach about love at all. Just that men are cruel sometimes, and women have to deal with people like this in their daily lives.

True story:

I knew a girl, homely but stinking rich, really sweet and nice person. Her parents arranged for her to get married to another business family's heir. The wedding of the year, finest bash to be seen in the community. Wow.

The next day, the groom sent her home because he thought she was too ugly under all the makeup, and couldn't imagine life with her. It ruined her. Men are awful also, not just romantic and gorgeous.

Originally posted by: Smiley_23

In deed its infatuation with violence...🤔

very aptly put together 👏👏👏

and sadly Gul Khan will justify it showing the High TRP they are going to get for this track...👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

Originally posted by: LiveLoveLaugh96

i stopped watching ipkknd after ASR forcefully married Khushi and i always wondered how ppl loved ASR so much!

Im sticking around for RuMya otherwise it would've been a tata bye-bye from my side 😆

Originally posted by: mishti4maan

No he went beyond ASR today for me tbh..