Why Tia Matters to the Plot--AFTER she Exits the Story

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@napstermonster

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: ISensedYou
As much as what u have written in this post is the bitter truth i really hope nothing like this happens...it just scares me too much😒
Anika being a very strong girl would not even think of giving a chance to shivaay if shivaay points out on her character... it would be impossible for shivaay to bring her back
If shivaay does go the insulting way( if he doesnt know abt tia) rather than include her in the group way( if he knows abt tia)... .i dont see a future for shivika on the show.

I don't know if its impossible to bring Anika back--as in, it might be impossible to bring her WILLINGLY back, but dont forget Dadi-ji's 30 lakh loan, and Sahil's power of attorney and Bandari Bua right outside the window. Anika can easily be forced to do anything anyone wants her to do . All anyone has to do is just target Sahil--and if its Shivaay himself doing it, he has the ammunition in his house, he even knows how effective it is on her.

So he might decide, I love her, I want her, I'll have her here, with me, in any way I can. Baad mei baki sab kuch dekh lenge. She will feel trapped and fight him. Or Anika might be brought in by Dadi, as a reluctant wife for Shivaay after the whole Tia thing was too much for the Oberois to go through. If Dadi brings her, in exchange for money, its enough to drive a wedge there, too. Hell, in true ASR style, Shivaay might do it because he believes the worst, because of some stupidity she did during the whole Tia thing. Somehow, he has gotten the idea that she is also a gold digger, and now he wants to punish her, and wont let her go.

How will any of this even work? Well for me, this show has something IPKKND didn't have, and suffered, because it didn't have it. It has allies. Allies for Shivaay in Om and Rudra, who tell him to his face when he is wrong, who tease him unmercifully, or scream at him to show him his mistakes. Who he listens to, and trusts, with his life. Who are NOT dumb or manipulative, but good, decent men.

And those same allies are on Anika's side, and will always speak to her, protecting and loving her. And Anika has a little ally, who is underrated, but is her true strength and her voice of reason--Sahil. I hope they don't ship him off, and bring him into the Mansion with her. Om and Rudra and Sahil, too, are the essential connections for Shivika, to make it as a couple. That is how the Dil Bole Oberoi will actually help the strongest of the brothers. Honestly, other than this, Om and Rudra don't have much to offer their stronger. older, much more sorted Bhaiya. Helping him win back Anika might be how the Great Wall Of Shivaay gets his true reward, from his OBros.

Edited by napstermonster - 8 years ago

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asya34

@asya34

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

I always thought it a bit odd that the Annika-Dadi loan scene was actually given importance. I did shelve it in the IB memory bank though for, as you all said, Gul loves the Forced Marriage thing bit.
I did write this line of thought before as the 30 lakh loan over a 25 year period does make her a bonded laborer for life almost but then started wishfully thinking that IB might be a bit different with a marriage built on at least trust and respect if not love. The love would be shown blossoming and growing after marriage as they face all the adversities thrown at the family together.
But I guess that is too much to expect from a Soap.
Also I thought the ML would be a little less dumb and naive considering he did research on Dev. But I guess he is blind when it comes to his own future or just to egoistical to consider he could be wrong.
I know he trusts Tia implicitly but a man with half a brain would wonder where his fiance was during KC. No one knew of her whereabouts and I guess he too was trying to call her. Annika did offer to look for her in the backyard , so it is possible she could have seen something.
But I guess the Dumb ML works better for the twist in the plot that would need him to redeem himself😒

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Samira

@mishti4maan

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

i always look forward to reading your posts because you make excellent points! In a way, I want this to happen because I desperately want Shivaay's delusions of "khoon, khandaan" to shatter into a million pieces. Honestly, sometimes he acts like an absolute fool who is so easily manipulated. What I DESPERATELY DO NOT WANT is a forced marriage. I hated the concept in IPKKND and when they did that "fake engagemnt" in Qubool Hain. It's just too painful to watch.

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blackorwhite

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Silent reader here!! :)
Very well written!! I really like your posts!!

My 2 cents here:
I kind of see where you are coming from 'once bitten twice shy'! :)
Gul has a history - forced and hate marriage, dark hero, hurt heroine, redemption??
And obviously the trailer points to Shivaay messing things up(and he will)

But.. Few things that are different in this Gul vision:
- this 'Anika sense' that Shivaay has.. Shivaay is too involved in Anika and they have this connection which if destroyed, destroys the essence of both their characters and relationship!! :(
- Their 'belief' in love - Both 'right now' are 'practical' and do not believe in love..
I think post marriage, the journey for them would be to discover what's love, Anika to understand why Shivaay is the way he is and then change his philosophy..
- A dialogue that has stayed with me and which make me think that shivika have a lot of depth.. when the phaas pricks Shivaay, he says 'dard ho raha hai' and Anika says 'meine kuch kiya hi nahi toh Kaise dard ho raha hai' I have a feeling they both are going to hurt each other unintentionally(yes even Anika is going to hurt him) and hence naraazagi Dono taraf de Hogi! :( Angst is required for any love story to evolve and go to the next level, so am all for it.. :)
- Tia ka character - Shivaay ke khandaan etc philosophy ko question karne ke liye hai. Would he be angry when he knows the truth - yes, would he snip at someone( read Anika) - yes but I think, actually, hope he does not repeat the same mistake again by taunting her about her identity..

Based on the current shivika character and relationship graph, I can see a marriage of convenience(loan/sahil and Oberoi Izzat ke karn) agreed upon by both parties with 'maybe' misunderstandings due to external factors , bitterness(from both ends) and for sure with many arguments due to differences in opinions, but do not see a hate or forced marriage!! :) :) :D

But I don't trust Gul, so only she knows what cooking and I can be totally wrong !! :D
and this post is me hoping that she does not mess this one up.. :(

Again awesome post!! :)

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Sanya17

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

what you said I hope that doesn't happen but gul loves such type of thing which is scaring me that is why I want the shooter or hired killer spoiler to be true I want Anika seriously injured and tia revelation to happen together so when sso throws tia out of his life he can't have the chance to blame everything on Anika because Anika will be in hospital seriously injured

I had watched ippknd but I absolutely hated arnav and his behaviour that when he was kidnapped I was actually happy to see him suffer but barun was too good in his villainous scenes that I hated him yet I loved him for his acting skill but for ishqbaaz ippknd way force mrg or blackmail mrg contract mrg will not work because Anika is much more stronger lead and strong headed than khushi khushi was too naive that smtyms her naiveness irritate the viewer where Anika will anything and everything to repay the loan except forcingly marrying shivaay she will stay on road but will not accept someone forcing their decision on her she threw water on shivaay even when he had just saved her Anika didn't immediately forgave shivaay just because he had saved her which is the rare trait of telly lead and I love Anika for that if shivaay goes extreme like blaming her for everything or calling and thinking of her as gold digger he will have to go more extreme in a positive way to bring Anika back in his life Anika is not as forgiving as khushi she is more strong more realistic she is a middle class girl who is handling her family and responsibilities all alone she has seen the ugly side of the society and survived it so force will not work for this show if they show and try to use sahil custody to show force mrg that will not work for this show

I don't want to offend anyone but we have one more reason why force mrg negative shivaay can't work nakul is not very good on negative shivaay scene he is not natural in negative scenes as he is natural in the romantic ones sweet ones with brothers and family scenes he was more than perfect in both drunken scenes but in the initial negative ones with Anika seemed very forced ipkknd worked because barun was natural in negative scenes but I don't liked khushi arnav romantic scenes for romantic scenes I like shivika much more than arshi everyone has their own special sector in where they are good there are hardly any actor who can be perfect in every scene

Gul has to keep in mind the on the actors strength too it would be better if tia revelation and Anika injury happen same time (don't know will happen or not ) together then shivaay realising how wrong he was in thinking his relation with tia is perfect then realising his feelings coming out of khoon khandan obsession propsing Anika and she rejecting because Anika believes relation should be between equals then shivaay making her belief that they are able to have future

which I don't see happening I am just waiting for om track revelation I watched that show for him after that if nothing comes good for om or shivika then I am goodbye because I have a feeling they will go to ipkknd way for shivika I really don't want that

Today's last of om scene was good everyday I get confuse regarding om past one epi I think he did the accident then again think he didn't do anything just saving prinku then again I think it was him I am totally confused

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asya34

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Sanya17
what you said I hope that doesn't happen but gul loves such type of thing which is scaring me that is why I want the shooter or hired killer spoiler to be true I want Anika seriously injured and tia revelation to happen together so when sso throws tia out of his life he can't have the chance to blame everything on Anika because Anika will be in hospital seriously injured
I had watched ippknd but I absolutely hated arnav and his behaviour that when he was kidnapped I was actually happy to see him suffer but barun was too good in his villainous scenes that I hated him yet I loved him for his acting skill but for ishqbaaz ippknd way force mrg or blackmail mrg contract mrg will not work because Anika is much more stronger lead and strong headed than khushi khushi was too naive that smtyms her naiveness irritate the viewer where Anika will anything and everything to repay the loan except forcingly marrying shivaay she will stay on road but will not accept someone forcing their decision on her she threw water on shivaay even when he had just saved her Anika didn't immediately forgave shivaay just because he had saved her which is the rare trait of telly lead and I love Anika for that if shivaay goes extreme like blaming her for everything or calling and thinking of her as gold digger he will have to go more extreme in a positive way to bring Anika back in his life Anika is not as forgiving as khushi she is more strong more realistic she is a middle class girl who is handling her family and responsibilities all alone she has seen the ugly side of the society and survived it so force will not work for this show if they show and try to use sahil custody to show force mrg that will not work for this show
I don't want to offend anyone but we have one more reason why force mrg negative shivaay can't work nakul is not very good on negative shivaay scene he is not natural in negative scenes as he is natural in the romantic ones sweet ones with brothers and family scenes he was more than perfect in both drunken scenes but in the initial negative ones with Anika seemed very forced ipkknd worked because barun was natural in negative scenes but I don't liked khushi arnav romantic scenes for romantic scenes I like shivika much more than arshi everyone has their own special sector in where they are good there are hardly any actor who can be perfect in every scene

Gul has to keep in mind the on the actors strength too it would be better if tia revelation and Anika injury happen same time (don't know will happen or not ) together then shivaay realising how wrong he was in thinking his relation with tia is perfect then realising his feelings coming out of khoon khandan obsession propsing Anika and she rejecting because Anika believes relation should be between equals then shivaay making her belief that they are able to have future
which I don't see happening I am just waiting for om track revelation I watched that show for him after that if nothing comes good for om or shivika then I am goodbye because I have a feeling they will go to ipkknd way for shivika I really don't want that

Today's last of om scene was good everyday I get confuse regarding om past one epi I think he did the accident then again think he didn't do anything just saving prinku then again I think it was him I am totally confused

See!!! I agree with your points as well and that is why this forced marriage thing is not sitting well with me. Also, the fact that Annika has to be the brains and save Billu again - I mean who is the Damsel in distress here all the time??? I believe she is due for a salary increase, extended vacation and a promotion.The Cute Mr. Mishra from his office can wait. 🤣🤣

Sure, Shivvay being the physically strong one always picks Annika in his arms but it is Annika who is always saving his 'tushie' from trouble 🤣
I am not admiring the way Shivvay is playing out right now. This sharp businessman who has a killer instinct and ruthless personality is not in the lest bit intrigued about what Annika saw?

I mean with ASR his emotions took the better of him seeing Khusi with Shyam- understandable with his parents past etc. That I could completely understand and condone.
But for Shivvay to remain 'stone headed' bull headed SSO and not give what Annika says at least a second thought would amaze me.A man madly in love I can understand who blindly trusts his partner but Shivvay is not madly in love with Tia.

This Tia who, as we all know, cannot string a sentence together without universe, vibes and aura. This Tia who said that Tej and Shakti were in trouble because the Universe wanted it to be so. 😲😲
I mean now suddenly he takes what this air-headed woman, who always talks rubbish, seriously??? This is the same woman who thinks planning a wedding is about matching his socks with her earrings or some crap (pardon my french) like that, while Annika is doing the real stuff
So now just because it suits him all that comes out of Tia's mouth is the 'universal wisdom and truth' - Annika is behaving weird because the wedding announcement was made.
HELLO!!!! wake up call her Mr. Oberoi - you have been getting married for the past one month which has been more painful to us viewers than Annika😆😆 In case you did not notice everyone in your house is affected by your sometimes on- sometimes off wedding.
Shaadi nahi - guddi guddon ka khel ho gaya hai yeh😉😉

Edited by asya34 - 8 years ago

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Iris Zain Ibrahim

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Posted: 8 years ago

#17

Hey

Lovely post

I agree to some extent shivaay will definitely vent all his anger on Annika considering the fact that she will most likely bring tias truth to light. I don't for some reason believe shivaay already knows, shivaay would not under any terms stay quiet and ignorant If tia was in love with and had a boyfriend. After all his family reputation matters a lot to him and I don't see any other reasons to justify the promo. Annika is a kind hearted and one that forgives and forgets quite easy, it has to be a big deal for her to not forgive. Shivaay must've hurt her really bad and shattered who she is by going on her khandaan or throwing izzat and what she has left of it back in her face. Like you said it will break her completely.

After the apologies and receiving no forgiveness he may use the 30 laks or sahil against her forcing her to return to his home and life. This may lead to the forced/compromising marriage track Gul seems to love so much.

Considering Tia weak and stupid is plain foolishness on our part, she's smarter than she looks and behaves if she can pull of seeing a lover behind Shivaays back and the Oberoi family. Leave she will definitely, but once again like you put it with a big dhamaka on her way out. Shivaay considers her the perfect lap dog who behaves and does exactly what he wants from the perfect sociable fiancee and doesn't even consider why is she so quite about the Annika love burn he seems to be having,the naked concern on his face on karva chauth, the way his eyes follow Annika all the time. Every other fiancee would be demanding questions but she does nothing but be supportive and caring. Im surprised he doesn't consider it weird and just puts it down to "Tia is understandable".

Let's see what happens though

Anyways keep writing it was lovely to read your deep insights.

Iris

Edited by -Emmery- - 8 years ago

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Midnight

@Midnightsorrow

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: Sanya17
what you said I hope that doesn't happen but gul loves such type of thing which is scaring me that is why I want the shooter or hired killer spoiler to be true I want Anika seriously injured and tia revelation to happen together so when sso throws tia out of his life he can't have the chance to blame everything on Anika because Anika will be in hospital seriously injured
I had watched ippknd but I absolutely hated arnav and his behaviour that when he was kidnapped I was actually happy to see him suffer but barun was too good in his villainous scenes that I hated him yet I loved him for his acting skill but for ishqbaaz ippknd way force mrg or blackmail mrg contract mrg will not work because Anika is much more stronger lead and strong headed than khushi khushi was too naive that smtyms her naiveness irritate the viewer where Anika will anything and everything to repay the loan except forcingly marrying shivaay she will stay on road but will not accept someone forcing their decision on her she threw water on shivaay even when he had just saved her Anika didn't immediately forgave shivaay just because he had saved her which is the rare trait of telly lead and I love Anika for that if shivaay goes extreme like blaming her for everything or calling and thinking of her as gold digger he will have to go more extreme in a positive way to bring Anika back in his life Anika is not as forgiving as khushi she is more strong more realistic she is a middle class girl who is handling her family and responsibilities all alone she has seen the ugly side of the society and survived it so force will not work for this show if they show and try to use sahil custody to show force mrg that will not work for this show
I don't want to offend anyone but we have one more reason why force mrg negative shivaay can't work nakul is not very good on negative shivaay scene he is not natural in negative scenes as he is natural in the romantic ones sweet ones with brothers and family scenes he was more than perfect in both runken scenes but in the initial negative ones with Anika seemed very forced ipkknd worked because barun was natural in negative scenes but I don't liked khushi arnav romantic scenes for romantic scenes I like shivika much more than arshi everyone has their own special sector in where they are good there are hardly any actor who can be perfect in every scene

Gul has to keep in mind the on the actors strength too it would be better if tia revelation and Anika injury happen same time (don't know will happen or not ) together then shivaay realising how wrong he was in thinking his relation with tia is perfect then realising his feelings coming out of khoon khandan obsession propsing Anika and she rejecting because Anika believes relation should be between equals then shivaay making her belief that they are able to have future
which I don't see happening I am just waiting for om track revelation I watched that show for him after that if nothing comes good for om or shivika then I am goodbye because I have a feeling they will go to ipkknd way for shivika I really don't want that

Today's last of om scene was good everyday I get confuse regarding om past one epi I think he did the accident then again think he didn't do anything just saving prinku then again I think it was him I am totally confused

I agree with your point I think both Barun and Nakuul have there weakness not comparing them here but I watched both Actors in these similar roles to see which they're better in. Nakuul nail his romantic scenes he touch and hold Anika well which I found lacking with Barun in IPK I was actually irritating with some of ArShi romantic scenes because he wasn't touching and holding her well but thankful Nakuul is doing the job well here I like Shivika romantic scenes more than ArShi to be honest.

Nakuul isn't that good in the angry young man act I do see something missing while Barun was amazing in his angry young man role that's his forte he nailed the manhanmanhanding and intense scenes. ArShi were at there best with there intensity but I don't find Nakuul that bad either he improved alot from the last Shivika tashan compare to the initial days.

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yellomellow

@yellomellow

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

I really enjoying reading your posts. Its exactly how I feel and want the story to go.

To be honest, he really needs to be rejected. Its only natural that she have a limit to all of his nonsense. The FLs are always weak and forgiving, but Anika is slightly different. She is kind, but not stupid and very proud. All her genuine effort and kind deeds being turned into" your scheming to land yourself a rich husband" might be that limit. He will try to shift the blame onto her because he needs someone to take the blame for his feelings and making him want to reevaluate his views. I noticed she doesn't really try to correct him about his prejudices. She is knows he is a lost clause, but also because I don't think she cares. She isn't invested in him to point out his flaws and help him become a better person. She mocks his behavior, but she doesn't waste her time trying to correct his behavior.

Tia hasn't done anything bad other than cheating on him so far. His backward thinking is all his, his misunderstanding of her words is all his, his pent-up feelings is all his, and his anger issues are all his.

You're right Tia doesn't have to do anything, he'll ruin his own happiness himself 😆

He has been projecting his feelings onto her for awhile now. Its obvious he has been thinking about their relationship and after not being able to find a solution he made his choice when he proposed to Tia. Right now, he may not be happy, but he is content with his decision. If it turns out Tia is in fact cheating on him and Anika suspicions that he tossed away were true then its will be a different story. He will be angry at himself, but he will be angrier at her. It would be even better and make the story more interesting if she gets hurt after he turns on her for Tia.

Right now, it will be impossible at this point for either of them to concede so we could at least enjoy some fireworks 😆

The less dramatic angle for the promo is that he won't resort to insulting her, but he won't believe her or imply she has feelings for him. As a result, she may she walk away from the situation then she will get hurt. By then, Tia's truth is revealed and her connection to her accident will also be revealed(he will feel guilty). Guilt for not believing her and feeling responsible for causing her harm. That means he is trying to make amends,not confessing in the promo. However, Anika closed the chapter in her life and moved on. It's too soon for him to admit his feelings let alone act on them.

I really hope its plays out like your post suggests.

Edited by yellomellow - 8 years ago

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butterfly_16

@butterfly_16

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I was hoping for once it wouldn't be that dramatic, but I suppose I need to stop being an optimist. This is Gul's show after all😆. I don't know what's going to happen, but I really want a redemptive arc for Shivaay. Instead of the forced/hate marriage track🥱. I love ShivIka, but even I don't have the patience for that. I'm just going to hope Gul's learnt something from her previous shows. Let the accusations fly - fireworks sure😆 - but he needs to earn her back. These characters have such potential and I really don't want to see them being ruined😡.

Or the less dramatic way that I was hoping for - he simply doesn't believe her/implies she has feelings for him and then when the truth comes out something happens to her and Om's dialogues come true. He realizes he loves her, but Anika remains unforgiving since she's oblivious to her own feelings. And that can be Shivaay's dilemma - redeeming himself while she realize her own feelings. As other people have pointed out, the man's an absolute goner. So's Anika, but the girl needs to reflect and come to terms with her own feelings first.

I think I might be expecting too much, but today's episode in some weird, twisted way gave me hope. Shivaay's reaction. The man was calm. Perhaps this is the calm before the storm. Just some food for thought though. Anika along with OmRu ganged up and spied on his fiancee. There was an accusation being levelled against the great Shivaay Singh Oberoi's fiancee by who? Anika. A nobody. And he didn't yell or scream or tell her to get lost. That's what I would have expected a normal ML of a Gul serial to do😆😕 But Shivaay didn't.

P.S. Just decided to type up a quick reply from my phone. Hope it makes sense. Heck for all I know, I'm making all of you confused😆

Edited by butterfly_16 - 8 years ago